Shyarly was a suggestion too? Well then, I'll have to update my list:
Championed female characters of a certain level of attractiveness as Nakamates:
The only ones I'm unsure of are Hina, Shakky, Domino and Sadi.
I'm almost certain that Three Eyed Big Mam girl was suggested though.
Fishman Island was also something of a clusterfuck of random nakama suggestions.
I recall seeing theories for Caribou, Kraken/Surume, Hatchan, Hyozou, Fukaboshi, Shirahoshi, Den, Shyari/Shirley, Hody and f*cking Arlong.
I'm tempted to say Van Der Decken was also mentioned but my memory can't fathom such an event having happened.
God, I had to google Den… did someone really suggest him? how many years have passed since last crewmate joined? five? People want one already so they/we suggest any significant new character as new CM. The funny thing is probably no one anticipated brook joining...
Despite Brook agreeing to join at his very introduction, a remarkably large chunk of the forum was convinced that he wouldn't.
And of course, people are so dead set against Jinbe that I'm pretty sure his "I'll join, but later" statement is the direct cause of the "Jinbe will die!" movement.
@The:
Shyarly was a suggestion too? Well then, I'll have to update my list:
Championed female characters of a certain level of attractiveness as Nakamates:
- Perona
- Camie
- Bonney
- Margaret
- Hancock
- Tashigi
- Shirahoshi
- Shyarley
- Monet
- Baby 5
- Rebecca
- Violet
The only ones I'm unsure of are Hina, Shakky, Domino and Sadi.
I'm almost certain that Three Eyed Big Mam girl was suggested though.
Yes 3 eyed girl was suggested as nakama.
Margaret and Rebecca weren't exactly just suggested by the boob people though, they were suggested by people who saw them intract with Luffy, I think they had more ground than any of the others
@The:
Despite Brook agreeing to join at his very introduction, a remarkably large chunk of the forum was convinced that he wouldn't.
"Despite"? I think it was BECAUSE he agreed to join at his very introduction.
That might be true. It was a break from the norm, so I could see people thinking something fishy was going down.
Still, I can't understand how people can look at the full two-page spread -something incredibly rare in this series- of him agreeing to join, and deem it not a huge sign that yeah, this was actually a big deal.
And then he was revealed as a musician. People still opposed him.
And then his connection to Laboon was revealed. People still opposed him.
So, is there actually a valid candidate so far? What are Kin'emon's chances of joining?
So, is there actually a valid candidate so far? What are Kin'emon's chances of joining?
Jimbe, assuming he lives, is the only valid candidate as of right now.
Absolutely none in Kinemon's case. Just completely redundant with Zoro around.
Jimbe, assuming he lives, is the only valid candidate as of right now.
Who on earth are we to assume otherwise.
@Monkey:
Who on earth are we to assume otherwise.
Nobody lol.
Also anyone who thinks Monet is a NN candidate needs to stop posting.
@The:
That might be true. It was a break from the norm, so I could see people thinking something fishy was going down.
Still, I can't understand how people can look at the full two-page spread -something incredibly rare in this series- of him agreeing to join, and deem it not a huge sign that yeah, this was actually a big deal.
And then he was revealed as a musician. People still opposed him.
And then his connection to Laboon was revealed. People still opposed him.
wait what?! seriously?
Until the bitter end, Im afraid
@Croco~Boy:
. If Oda decides he doesn't want to do it , then he won't add them to the crew.Simple.
The same braindead s**t that people say when they can't defend their irrealistic theories. It's not about what Oda wants or doesn't want, it's about how plausible it is.
The same braindead s**t that people say when they can't defend their irrealistic theories. It's not about what Oda wants or doesn't want, it's about how plausible it is.
It's exactly about what Oda wants. Just a matter of semanthics though. They just like to say he is unpredictable because they can't understand his patterns..
Against facts there are no arguments.
@Monkey:
How many nn candidates have been suggested in Dressrosa so far? I'm trying to determine if Oda has set a new record for characters that we as readers want to join the crew. I mean, so far I've seen Bellamy, Barto, Violet, Rebecca, the toy helping Franky (forgot the name, lightning soldier perhaps?, and a few others whose name I cannot recall at the moment.
Never name Bart together with those other uninteresting side characters
@Croco~Boy:
Wow, I don't know how a theory can make you virgins go mad.
I guess I don't have strong evidence towards Monet joining the SH/Law, we'll just have to see how the story progresses. Mingo is a noble right? So what do they do with there power? Looking at it from my point of view, Mingo is using his powers to intimidate the citizens and some of the crew( probably not the high ranking ones). Remember even Barto pointed out that they are disgusting(when he throws the "bomb" at them), they even said some things that the nobles would say, kinda fishy. We have to look at things thru poor Barto's eyes.
Monet lost her strawhats chance when learn for certain she was druging kids(and tried to eat Nami) and since Law tried to kill her I doubt she'll join him. Plus the fact she's extremely loyal to Dofla and surely won't join those who caused his downfall.
Monet lost her strawhats chance when learn for certain she was druging kids(and tried to eat Nami) and since Law tried to kill her I doubt she'll join him. Plus the fact she's extremely loyal to Dofla and surely won't join those who caused his downfall.
Please don't feed the trolls.
Against facts there are no arguments.
We need a pic of Barto for this…. last chapter came close with Barto trying to steal Cavendish's steak...but its not good enough to title "Please don't feed the troll."
hahaha your comment just made my day!
Against facts there are no arguments.
Bartolomeo is the wild card of this Next Nakama shit. And this is the muthafracking thanks he gets?
It's exactly about what Oda wants. Just a matter of semanthics though. They just like to say he is unpredictable because they can't understand his patterns..
No it's not, it's about predicting what are the possible outcomes and whether your prediction has solid grounds or is plausible. Although I can't agree more about that last statement where people who can't defend their theories retort to "hey! it's Oda's who decides if X happens, not you!".
naruto was WAY MORE KICKASS after the timeskip
i mean to show his badassness, him and sakura managed to get the bell from kakashi. beating pacifista's is so lame compared to that awesomeness
At least with Barto there are some mysteries about him. For instance, what is his attraction to Luffy? What are his motives with the Mera Mera no Mi? Is he really that evil? Is he really as powerful as he is made out to be?
Am I suggesting that he'll be the next Nakama? No, but he's hella more interesting Monet, Violet & Rebbecca put together. And he has a really unique style, cool Devil Fruit and unique(ish) personality.
However, he has no interaction with the crew to speak of, no flashbacks that explain his past and no stated dream. To be fair, there is still plenty of time for that to change, Dressrosa is early yet.
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I do have one somewhat large issue with Jinbe, however. He is a strong candidate, I think he is a pretty great character and would fit in with the Straw Hats both on the Sunny and in combat, but what is his personal dream? I know he has overarching goals to further the status of Fishmen & Mers, but what would be his personal incentive to join the Straw Hats? What is the outlandish dream that if given the chance he'd fight till his dying breath for, like becoming the Pirate King, the best swordsman in the world, charting all of the seas, becoming a 'Brave Warrior of the Seas', finding the mythical All Blue, being able to cure any disease, finding & reading the Rio Poneglyph on Raftel, create a dream ship that reaches the end of the Grand Line or deliver a final message to a lost friend at the on the other side of the Grand Line? I believe it is one of the most crucial aspects of a Straw Hat (though Ussop is a bit of an exception, it is still outlandish and fits his personality), without it Jinbe will never ever be a Nakama.
I believe the upcoming Big Mam arc/saga will be an excellent time for Oda to dive into Jinbe's past, but I could also see Oda going in another direction with Jinbe and have him fill another role. Jinbe is head-and-shoulders above anyone else at this point, but is not as much of a shoe-in as some have made him out to be.
I do have one somewhat large issue with Jinbe, however. He is a strong candidate, I think he is a pretty great character and would fit in with the Straw Hats both on the Sunny and in combat, but what is his personal dream? I know he has overarching goals to further the status of Fishmen & Mers, but what would be his personal incentive to join the Straw Hats? What is the outlandish dream that if given the chance he'd fight till his dying breath for, like becoming the Pirate King, the best swordsman in the world, charting all of the seas, becoming a 'Brave Warrior of the Seas', finding the mythical All Blue, being able to cure any disease, finding & reading the Rio Poneglyph on Raftel, create a dream ship that reaches the end of the Grand Line or deliver a final message to a lost friend at the on the other side of the Grand Line? I believe it is one of the most crucial aspects of a Straw Hat (though Ussop is a bit of an exception, it is still outlandish and fits his personality), without it Jinbe will never ever be a Nakama.
I believe the upcoming Big Mam arc/saga will be an excellent time for Oda to dive into Jinbe's past, but I could also see Oda going in another direction with Jinbe and have him fill another role. Jinbe is head-and-shoulders above anyone else at this point, but is not as much of a shoe-in as some have made him out to be.
I consider him a shoe-in because he has already been asked and has said he will join after his business is completed. I can't think of anything that would make Luffy withdraw that offer or make Jinbe, who is so set on keeping his word and who cares for Luffy so much, change his mind. Maybe there will be a curveball, but for now, I can't imagine why Oda would have Luffy ask and Jinbe give that answer in the first place if Jinbe wasn't going to join. Luffy didn't have to ask (he's had plenty of friends and allies he hasn't asked) or Jinbe could have given a Vivi response.
I agree that it needs to be stated directly, but I think it's clear that Jinbe's big goal is to improve human-fishman relations. Given that he helped make Luffy into the hero of FI, and the scene where Luffy asked him to join was set up as showing their friendship as the starting point to the "path to the sun", I think it makes sense (at least more so than Brook's dream.)
No it's not, it's about predicting what are the possible outcomes and whether your prediction has solid grounds or is plausible. Although I can't agree more about that last statement where people who can't defend their theories retort to "hey! it's Oda's who decides if X happens, not you!".
It's DEFINITELY also about learning Oda's way of writing. Inarguable.
Did people think Robin would die around the time of her problems in Water 7 & Enies Lobby?
All of this death speculation around Jinbe seems extremely unwarranted.
"The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terror"
Did people think Robin would die around the time of her problems in Water 7 & Enies Lobby?
All of this death speculation around Jinbe seems extremely unwarranted.
No it's more his personality from the Impel Down/Marineford "I'll die for/to protect X Y Z"
Coupled with the fact that other then Merry the SH's have not lost a member of their Crew and one of the most set in stone tropes in group adventure stories is they lose a member who protects the others. Granted the trope is often trumped by another which is showing the person never died but that is usually because the author hasn't the conviction to stick to their ideals.
Like in Fable2 - when Molynuex or however you spell it was going on and on and on about how a dog was going to stay with your character and grow with you and always join you for your adventures - every interview he HAD to mention the emotional connection you would have with the dog … I kept telling people he would kill the dog off in the game somehow, some agreed others didn't then they played it and petitioned him to change his mind on the fate of the dog.
So out of all the SH's Jinbei is the one people seem to feel most comfortable dying for the SH's and if that trope is used he is the best candidate.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
No it's more his personality from the Impel Down/Marineford "I'll die for/to protect X Y Z"
Coupled with the fact that other then Merry the SH's have not lost a member of their Crew and one of the most set in stone tropes in group adventure stories is they lose a member who protects the others. Granted the trope is often trumped by another which is showing the person never died but that is usually because the author hasn't the conviction to stick to their ideals.
That would be a ridiculous trope to use at this point, after such a big deal was made of Luffy losing Ace (to the point that it has come up again as a plot point with the mera mera fruit). Luffy (and the others) trained so hard for two years … only to be unable to protect another person? That wouldn't push the story forward, but stagnate it.
No it's more his personality from the Impel Down/Marineford "I'll die for/to protect X Y Z"
Coupled with the fact that other then Merry the SH's have not lost a member of their Crew and one of the most set in stone tropes in group adventure stories is they lose a member who protects the others. Granted the trope is often trumped by another which is showing the person never died but that is usually because the author hasn't the conviction to stick to their ideals.Like in Fable2 - when Molynuex or however you spell it was going on and on and on about how a dog was going to stay with your character and grow with you and always join you for your adventures - every interview he HAD to mention the emotional connection you would have with the dog … I kept telling people he would kill the dog off in the game somehow, some agreed others didn't then they played it and petitioned him to change his mind on the fate of the dog.
So out of all the SH's Jinbei is the one people seem to feel most comfortable dying for the SH's and if that trope is used he is the best candidate.
This is a thing that won't happened.
When will the next nakama be selected by Luffy? This arc or the next few upcoming ones? 
@Old:
When will the next nakama be selected by Luffy? This arc or the next few upcoming ones?
Oda doesn't post here.
@Old:
When will the next nakama be selected by Luffy? This arc or the next few upcoming ones?
You love stirring the opened can of worms don't you?
Was just wondering when everyone reckons the next crewmate will be joining… I personally hope its this arc its been a while
@Old:
Was just wondering when everyone reckons the next crewmate will be joining… I personally hope its this arc its been a while
Why are you talking about new crewmates like it's a methodical process that just happens every arc or two. We're probably only getting one more person aside from Jimbei.
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I do have one somewhat large issue with Jinbe, however. He is a strong candidate, I think he is a pretty great character and would fit in with the Straw Hats both on the Sunny and in combat, but what is his personal dream?
On a large scale, its harmony between fishmen and humans.
On a small personal scale? We don't know yet, but we'll get that when we get the flashback that explains how he got his scar.
@RobbyBevard:
Why would Oda-san bother showing he can walk on the sky?
Same reasons. Show the results of his training, give them something to do on the way down to FI, and to hold them over for however many hundreds of chapters it'll be before Jinbe joins officially after the Big Mom arc.
Sanji's Blue Walk was still shown to be insufficient is some cases where limited time was a factor, like when they only had a few seconds of air to fight the kraken, or when they entered FI and got caught up in the current, or even the final battle of the arc where he didn't swim to help at all.
So if those are non-things, then why is two guys moving around well in water a thing?
I hope I don't stick my foot in my mouth with this one but here it goes. The reason why swimming is a "thing" as opposed to swordsmanship and super strength is because neither of those things have never been opposed upon.
What I mean by that is swordsmanship is a core part of Zoro's character and move set, Brook even though he's a swordsmen, his pride is in his skill to play music. After the time-skip all of his abilities were extensions of his devil fruit powers. As far as we've seen he's swordsmanship and musically ability haven't changed.
Now when we compare Jinbe and Sanji, Sanji's move-set unveiling opened with the walking abilities. I believe showing abilities such as these so early would suggest that they will be used often and increase in strength. You could also make the argument that Sanji was foreshadowed to either have this ability or at least contend with a Fishman underwater by his fight in Arlong park.
When it comes to Jinbe his pride lies in being a fishman, and one of the ability Fishmen excel in is swimming. So now your left with two people who are very good swimming. You and others may not see the logic in this, however to me, this causes an ability conflict, but hey we'll see what happens.
Also, is everyone aware that we have not seen a character who is better at Fishman karate than Jinbe? This kind of makes him the Mihawk of fishman karate,no? I mean surely if someone was stronger than him at the craft we would have heard of him or her already, just like how Jinbe was foreshadowed in Arlong Park.
(Power rambling)
Personally I don't see how someone who is the "best" can get any better. Its like there's no "surprise" in the character anymore. For example when Mihawk cut that ice berg, the reaction would be "oh damn he cut an iceberg" but knowing the feats that occur in this series and Mihawk's title the reaction would "Well no shit he cut an ice berg he's Mihawk!"
@Superbear:
Now when we compare Jinbe and Sanji, Sanji's move-set unveiling opened with the walking abilities. I believe showing abilities such as these so early would suggest that they will be used often and increase in strength. You could also make the argument that Sanji was foreshadowed to either have this ability or at least contend with a Fishman underwater by his fight in Arlong park.
When it comes to Jinbe his pride lies in being a fishman, and one of the ability Fishmen excel in is swimming. So now your left with two people who are very good swimming. You and others may not see the logic in this, however to me, this causes an ability conflict, but hey we'll see what happens.
They're pirates - spend a huge portion of their time on a boat at sea. Having more than one good swimmer should be a requirement. It's really not such an original skill that it feels like copying. And while Sanji has been shown to be skilled in swimming, that is by no means his biggest or only strength. Does that really come to mind first when you think of Sanji's fighting style or talents? It is like Zoro, Brook, and swordsmanship: with one, the skill is the center of their style; with the other, it's an important aspect, but it's not the central focus.
They're pirates - spend a huge portion of their time on a boat at sea. Having more than one good swimmer should be a requirement. It's really not such an original skill that it feels like copying. And while Sanji has been shown to be skilled in swimming, that is by no means his biggest or only strength. Does that really come to mind first when you think of Sanji's fighting style or talents? It is like Zoro, Brook, and swordsmanship: with one, the skill is the center of their style; with the other, it's an important aspect, but it's not the central focus.
Well, Blue Walk is just underwater Geppo, which requires kicking, so yeah, kicking does come to mind when I think of Sanji.
@Superbear:
Well, Blue Walk is just underwater Geppo, which requires kicking, so yeah, I do think of kicking when I think of Sanji.
Yes, kicking is the center of Sanji's style. Doing it underwater is just a subset, just as the Sky Walk is. Kicking is his specialty - swimming is just one of many things he is able to do with it. Water abilities are not his specialty or what he's renowned for the way it is for Jinbe (see how many people think fire is his specialty in the Mera Mera no Mi thread.) I really don't see how there is any more overlap between Sanji and Jinbe than there is between Zoro and Brook.
Sooo I nominate Bellamy for un nuevo amigo, he has all the potential to be a strawhat, a rustles pirate who lost his crew on his way to neverland and came down as a new man with no grudge toward the man you destroyed his career as rookie and he has a dream now, how cool is that
This is sparta!morod
In my opinion, I do not think any character revealed thus far is going to joint he crew. However, if I was forced to choose one, I'd vote for Jinbei, or, in my world of delusion, Barto.
Come to think of it, there is only one spot left on the crew, if we're basing the number of people in the crew to be 10 total. In my opinion, I think whoever is the last person to join the crew is going to have an entire arc dedicated to that person, as every previous member (to some degree). As of yet, I haven't seen that. Perhaps we will see someone in the Wano country join the crew, but I have my doubts about that too, since it's all about samurai there, and we already have two swordsman. I'd like to see something more original.
Yes, kicking is the center of Sanji's style. Doing it underwater is just a subset, just as the Sky Walk is. Kicking is his specialty - swimming is just one of many things he is able to do with it. Water abilities are not his specialty or what he's renowned for the way it is for Jinbe (see how many people think fire is his specialty in the Mera Mera no Mi thread.) I really don't see how there is any more overlap between Sanji and Jinbe than there is between Zoro and Brook.
Well, it seems that I have failed to express my point clearly. I can say no more than what I've already expressed, so we can agree to disagree.
Come to think of it, there is only one spot left on the crew, if we're basing the number of people in the crew to be 10 total.
There are two spots left, as the 10 doesn't include Luffy. See chapter names - Brook's was "The Eighth", Usopp and Franky were "The Third and the Seventh." I might be wrong, but I think I remember Oda saying that he wanted 11 members total, like a football team.
@Superbear:
Well, it seems that I have failed to express my point clearly. I can say no more than what I've already expressed, so we can agree to disagree.
Yeah, I guess we'll have to rest it at that, since it seems we just disagree about how central Sanji's swimming abilities are to his fighting style, and whether there can be any overlap. But I still think that the idea that there can only be one very good swimmer on board is stupid, given that the very first chapter of One Piece talked about how important swimming is for pirates.
Ah, I forgot about the "8th" and stuff. Well, since Oda said himself that he wanted 11 members total, and luffy wanted 10 not counting himself, I have no idea what to expect.
To be perfectly honest, with the nine total members we have now, the manga is already lacking any real focus on any one character. As far as I can tell, we're getting less time per arc focusing on the strawhats. The more members, the less time for each individually. But, for the most part, I haven't noticed this being too big of a deal, and I'm sure Oda can somehow work with 2 more people joining the crew.
Who knows, he might evntually throw something crazy at us like when Usopp left the crew and have someone else leave the crew permantely (on good terms or bad, dunno). But of course, all of this is speculative.
Nobody in the current crew is going to leave, especially not with how easily Oda gets attached to characters coughPellcough. That leaves 2 spots left. One of the spots is going to go to a fishman for better or worse. It'll either just be Jimbe, or Oda throws us a curveball, has Jimbe killed by BM/BB/Sakazuki/Kidd or whoever, and puts a younger fishman on the crew. As for the other one, the crew still needs a way to fight SJW when they face BB, unless they do that lame tag-team bs against Wadatsumi, a giant isn't out of the realm of possibility. I'm going to go with Hajrudin until this arc finishes.
Ah, I forgot about the "8th" and stuff. Well, since Oda said himself that he wanted 11 members total, and luffy wanted 10 not counting himself, I have no idea what to expect.
To be perfectly honest, with the nine total members we have now, the manga is already lacking any real focus on any one character. As far as I can tell, we're getting less time per arc focusing on the strawhats. The more members, the less time for each individually. But, for the most part, I haven't noticed this being too big of a deal, and I'm sure Oda can somehow work with 2 more people joining the crew.
Who knows, he might evntually throw something crazy at us like when Usopp left the crew and have someone else leave the crew permantely (on good terms or bad, dunno). But of course, all of this is speculative.
Lack of focus is no longer an issue, and I don't think Oda intends to focus on individual strawhats' stories anymore. IMO, the story has moved past the "adventures of the Strawhats" stage. Everything from now on is going to drive the story towards the final war arc, and we'll be seeing a lot more of guys like Law/Barto. It goes without saying that BB/Kidd are going to take up a huge chunk of the spotlight. Probably the only time we'll be seeing any individual strawhat storylines is when the new nakama get introduced.
No it's not, it's about predicting what are the possible outcomes and whether your prediction has solid grounds or is plausible. Although I can't agree more about that last statement where people who can't defend their theories retort to "hey! it's Oda's who decides if X happens, not you!".
Lol man, what I meat was that it is exactly what Oda wants because it's his work, he does what he wants to do, but it doesn't mean he isn't following a pattern/style. Just pointing out that Oda does what he wants to do, and that is writing a consistent series. ;)
There are two spots left, as the 10 doesn't include Luffy. See chapter names - Brook's was "The Eighth", Usopp and Franky were "The Third and the Seventh." I might be wrong, but I think I remember Oda saying that he wanted 11 members total, like a football team.
Yeah, I guess we'll have to rest it at that, since it seems we just disagree about how central Sanji's swimming abilities are to his fighting style, and whether there can be any overlap. But I still think that the idea that there can only be one very good swimmer on board is stupid, given that the very first chapter of One Piece talked about how important swimming is for pirates.
(Looks at the numerous pirate orginazation who's highest rankings consist of devil fruit users. Looks at Kaido who's raising an army of artifical devil fruit users) Umm. Excuse me. Common sense would say that what you said makes sense but given that, in a world that is dominated by sea the most sought after and plentiful superpowers cause users to be very subceptible to drowning. Every powerful pirate orginzation is either lead by or has many Devil fruit users, this goes for non-pirate orginzations as well. Therefore I'm a little jaded when one says "swimming is important in One Piece".
@Superbear:
(Looks at the numerous pirate orginazation who's highest rankings consist of devil fruit users. Looks at Kaido who's raising an army of artifical devil fruit users) Umm. Excuse me. Common sense would say that what you said makes sense but given that, in a world that is dominated by sea the most sought after and plentiful superpowers cause users to be very subceptible to drowning. Every powerful pirate orginzation is either lead by or has many Devil fruit users, this goes for non-pirate orginzations as well. Therefore I'm a little jaded when one says "swimming is important in One Piece".
You could say the most powerful Yonkou is the one without a devil fruit Shanks. I say the most powerful because he
dispatched Kaidou, came to the war, ran off Blackbeard and had the marines stop fighting by his presence.
However I do agrees with you, that many view it in the one piece world as a risk worth taking.
I don't think anyone will accept the day the last crewmate joins, people are probably goimg to be hoping someone joins at the end of the last chapter or something xD
I think when the last crewmate joins (which, in my opinion, will be very late in the story), Oda will have Luffy say that the crew is finally complete or something like that.
You could say the most powerful Yonkou is the one without a devil fruit Shanks. I say the most powerful because he
dispatched Kaidou, came to the war, ran off Blackbeard and had the marines stop fighting by his presence.
However I do agrees with you, that many view it in the one piece world as a risk worth taking.
No.
For all we know, they came to an agreement. It doesn't mean that Shanks is stronger than him.
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