Nardo and Bleh Thread III: Naruto is a terrible terrible manga

Kaze

It hasn't been revealed yet.

But I'm calling it now; it's Ishida.

I beat you to it. :P

but yeah I'm 70% sure it's Him, and the 0 division will do NOTHING important. and will only end up being an obstacle for Ichigo.

Captain Katsura

@Kaze:

so Ichigo is one of the 5 great threats? But now there's 4. old man is dead. which leaves ichigo, Aizen? the 0 division? and ishida?

Yama was never one.

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/511/9

kagehisa

This week on Bleach

@Silence:

You know, you really have to commend Kubo.

It's comforting to know after all these years, he's still got it.

What do you mean? Kubo's trolling is more consistent than Oda's quality. There's not been a single week where Bleach has failed to troll me.

Aaronrules380

5 will be Ichigo, Kenpachi, Urahara, Ichigo's dad, and Unohana(or maybe Hitsugaya, because Kubo)

kagehisa

I'm not sure what's worse… this week's Bleach chapter? Or the fact that the majority of Bleach-Asylum thought it was good :(

Aaronrules380

Also, who wants to bet Ichigo will end up using some sort of spirit bomb technique to beat the final villain since QUincies absorb reiatsu from the surroundings to attack?

Maron

Isn't the high amount of views and posts in this thread, which is barely even a day old, simply a testament to the quality of both Naruto and Bleach?

Aaronrules380

@Maron:

Isn't the high amount of views and posts in this thread, which is barely even a day old, simply a testament to the quality of both Naruto and Bleach?

Yes, but only if the quality you're referring to is hilarious awfulness

King Cannon

@Kaze:

That's about right. Shall we start a new one?

Sure.

Yamamoto was Ichigo's grandfather.

Kaze

@King:

Sure.

Yamamoto was Ichigo's grandfather.

Here's some of my own theories.

Aizen is secretly apart of the 0 Division.

Aizen was never imprisoned in the first place.

Aizen is Ichigo.

Aizen.

Ishida will teach Ichigo how to use Quincy powers, and then, he will disappear.

Also, here's this little gem from Bleach Asylum

I just read the chapter and i gotta say: It was friggen AWESOME. I had a feeling that when Bach attacked Ichigo in the last chapter that the Blut vene activated itself because he was attacked by a Quincy power :3. I want the next chapter already lol. And also im glad Hashvald did something. And maybe thats the reason Hashvald looked sad last chapter was because he knew Ichigo was part Quincy and he felt wrong that they were fighting him ? I also think Juha Bach called him son because Ichigo may eb part Quincy not because hes his actual father lol XD

What is going on? o.O Am I the only one who finds it weird that after this chapter, people are suddenly extremely confused?

Masaki is a Quincy. Juha Bach highly implies it, that it's almost a full fledged fact.

Isshin did not lie to Urahara about Masaki being dead. That is extremely ridiculous, it's not even funny. Masaki died ontop of Ichigo. Ichigo knows she's dead. Urahara obviously knows about Masaki being a Quincy, since he knows about Isshin and his past.

Ichigo during the Dangai, already mastered Hichigo and Tensa. Him hollowfying is not necessary at this point. (we'll see though if Kubo wants to entertain the mask idea again, though technically, Ichigo should've already mastered his Hollow)

Isshin is Ichigo's father. They both use Getsuga Tensho. Ichigo has Zangetsu, Isshin has Engetsu. They both are able to use The Final Getsuga.

In conclusion, Isshin is Ichigo's father, without a single doubt. Masaki is Ichigo's mother and is a Quincy. Juha, if related directly to Ichigo (which would explain the Zangetsu resemblance) will be his Grandfather from Masaki's side.

This chapter is supposed to clear stuff up, not the opposite. (sigh)

Ubiq

@Aaronrules380:

5 will be Ichigo, Kenpachi, Urahara, Ichigo's dad, and Unohana(or maybe Hitsugaya, because Kubo)

What about Kurotsuchi?

Kaze

@Ubiq:

What about Kurotsuchi?

What we don't know yet is, Aizen made it look like Yama died. but in reality Yama made a deal with Aizen and Yama is actually still alive. Hell, all the captains are still alive.

and by helping, Aizen will be released for this last arc to "help" Ichigo.

Sâuza

@Kaze:

and by helping, Aizen will be released for this last arc to "help" Ichigo.

Who told you he was imprisoned and didn't help him escape that prison thing ?

starksnark

So Ichigo is the bastard love-child of Hollows, Shinigami, with some 'unique' fullbring powers and has Quincy blood too? Next up, watch as Ichigo is going to be trained by Kenshiro, has the power of the 10 tails demon implanted by Tui and was sent to earth as the last son of Krypton and a survivor of Saiyan. Reincarnated of course.

Kaze

guys, I need to stop. I can't get enough of this. Bleachasylum is making my day right now.

come on man. It would make more sense if you look at Juha Bach as the father of all quincies, and the quincies are his sons. I mean in any religion or cult isn't the main figure seen as father like while the followers are seen as sons and daughters.

Bach just wants to convert ichigo to one of his quincy "sons"

I know Kubo has done some retcons but it is wildly illogical that he would throw out 11 years of established history by revealing isshin is not his father.

It honestly makes more sense if Isshin was a member of the prominent Shiba clan and a captain of the SS. He falls in love with a quincy, and flees to earth with his lady love. The shiba clan is disgraced because of this and falls from grace. This would also explain their disdain for soul reapers even before Kaien enlisted.

This theory would knock out ichigo's similarity to Kaien, the Shiba's fall from grace, and explain why Isshin's appearance in the SS would reveal some big secret.

Seriously though Isshin is Ichigo's father.

Aaronrules380

@Ubiq:

What about Kurotsuchi?

That was my other thought for the last spot.

Juvar

@Kaze:

guys, I need to stop. I can't get enough of this. Bleachasylum is making my day right now.

What's so bad about it? He makes more sense of the story than Kubo ever did.

Aaronrules380

So am I the only one who actually liked Ichigo better when he was a complete cardboard cut out rather than that douchebag who acts insufferably smug and arrogant as long as he has the upper hand, but completely breaks down at the first sign of actual trouble?

Cyclone_Baroness

@Kaze:

guys, I need to stop. I can't get enough of this. Bleachasylum is making my day right now. That actually makes sense. I thought along those lines too but not the Kaien part. I figured Ichigo was just the reincarnation of him.

starksnark

Yeah, banged up job converting Ichigo to your cause there, Bach. You know, the sword into the throat might be a tad excessive. Though Ichigo has befriended someone who slashed his eyes shut, so I guess brutal maiming might be par for the course.

Aohige_AP

That crappy Date-senpai and the cancelled Takamagahara are still better read than Bleagh.

Just saying.

valiantt

With Takamagahara gone, any chance of Bleach reaching low enough rankings to get cancelled? Hmmmm?

Aohige_AP

@valiantt:

With Takamagahara gone, any chance of Bleach reaching low enough rankings to get cancelled? Hmmmm?

Lol, no.
Bleagh could stay at the bottom of polls for eternity and not be canceled.
Each volume sells like three quarters of a million copy ya know.

valiantt

Opps I forgot about its sales hahaha. Yeaaaah, guess Bleach isn't going anywhere. On the other hand, the other low rankers might kick the bucket. What a shame.

Hinscher

@MetaMario:

They can see Hollows because of (well, at the time) Ichigo's leaking reiatsu awakened their spirtual sense. The same reason why Orihime and Chad began to see Hollows, at least that was the ORIGINAL reason before Kubo decided to retcon.

The beginning of the series, it was some strange phonemonon to why Karin and Ichigo could see ghosts. Yuzu could only see the outlines. Come Arrancar arc, when Kubo made Isshin a Shinigami….I guess that filled in the blanks? Not Masaki being a Quincy.

...Again, most Shinigami and most Quincy wouldn't mate with each other, because a) the latter group was victim of genocide AND are attacking right now and b) they weren't on friendly terms to begin with. If Isshin and Masaki are the exceptions, I have no idea. Maybe Isshin jumped into his gigai?

I know all that.

BUT all that is now WRONG, because Kubo changed it, so we can't say that, that's the reason they can see ghosts now.

That was the wrost retcon that Kubo has done this entire manga. Not only did that put in more plot holes than can count, it also made every captain or strong shinigami seem like a lazy piece of shit. Before we could write off the reason they keep sending initiates to the worst Hollow town in the world was because if they sent captains their HUGE raitsu woudl affect normal humans and make them see hollows, ect. But now that is not and excuse and now they are just lazy ass captains letting people die and shinigami get killed by hollows.

ShiChimera

@Hinscher:

I know all that.

BUT all that is now WRONG, because Kubo changed it, so we can't say that, that's the reason they can see ghosts now.

That was the wrost retcon that Kubo has done this entire manga. Not only did that put in more plot holes than can count, it also made every captain or strong shinigami seem like a lazy piece of shit. Before we could write off the reason they keep sending initiates to the worst Hollow town in the world was because if they sent captains their HUGE raitsu woudl affect normal humans and make them see hollows, ect. But now that is not and excuse and now they are just lazy ass captains letting people die and shinigami get killed by hollows.

One point does NOT make the another one invalid, you know.

Seems you're ranting just for the sake of ranting right now… But whatever. Bleach indeed sucks.

Aohige_AP

If One Piece was written by Kubo

Alabasta arc - Luffy's grandfather was from Alabasta. The battle become all about him. Vivi becomes an obscure character in the background
Skypiea - Luffy is a descendant of Skypeans - Wiper becomes an obscure character in the background
Fishman Island - Luffy is secretly fishman and suddenly gains 10x strength. Shirahoshi is obscure character in the background
Punk Hazard - Luffy is actually a product of Vegapunk. Who the fuck is Law again?

ponx

Actually, if Kubo writes OP. It's all going to be about Luffy, of course with Ichigo's cardboard personality. Aaaaannndddddd the rest of the SH will amount to…. I wanted to say background characters, but there won't be any background in it. So the rest of the SH will just go into 2 years of training only to do nothing

Aohige_AP

Zoro and Sanji would be reduced to Ishida and Chad shudders

loledinmypants

Arlong arc by Kubo: Luffy's speech would turn from "I can't navigate/fight with swords/lie" to "I couldn't navigate/fight with swords/lie, but I can now because shut up"

Luffy'd probably pull BB's multiple df surprise before BB because he'd need to have Zoan powers after Chopper showed up and after 2 arcs of getting tossed around by logias he'd have to magically get some logia df too.

Juvar

And Luffy's only attack would be gomu gomu no hanabi because fuck you

ponx

Imagine what gear 2 & 3 will be made to look like "shudders"

loledinmypants

Bon Clay's clothing design would be changed to that of Charlotte Cuuhlhorne. And Charlotte would appear as a prominent Newkama.

Every fight one of the other Straw Hats won would have the ending changed to Luffy coming in last second to save the day.

"Who said the Shichibukai only go from 1 to 7?"/"Who said the Yonkou only go 1-4?"

About the only plus side might be Dragon trying to do Isshin's flying kick on Luffy if/when they eventually meet. That might actually make that gag funny again.

mr.french

So Ichigo's mother was a quincy, and through a bloodline, Ichigo's quincy powers rise to the surface. So Ichigo's power derives from him being 1/4 Shinigami, 1/4 Hollow, 1/4 Quincy, 1/4 Fullbringer. SO BAaAAHDASsSS!!!

Anyways… it's not at all obvious that Ichigo is going to solve the long conflict between shinigami and quincy that I know most fans have cared about... and, as Aizen becomes the final threat of extinction towards both groups, Ichigo's true power will be realized. OH YES! ... But hey, we get to look forward to some cool new transformations that will sell video games, toys and merchandise!

Also, just re-read Naruto for some stupid reason. Something just occurred to me... Why hasn't Obito turned into a tree yet?

Juvar

Guys, take this advice; if you are a bit of everything, you'll excel at all of those things.

For example, train a week in every sport there is then you'll become total uber godlike badass mofo. Kubo Logic!

MiyamotoMusashi

@Juvar:

Guys, take this advice; if you are a bit of everything, you'll excel at all of those things.

For example, train a week in every sport there is then you'll become total uber godlike badass mofo. Kubo Logic!

To quote the most famous martial artist: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times".

Juvar

@MiyamotoMusashi:

To quote the most famous martial artist: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times".

But that completely contradicts Kubo Logic and is therefore false.

ponx

@Juvar:

But that completely contradicts Kubo Logic and is therefore false.

Yes, and Kubo logic says "I fear the man who practice 10,000 kick once and changes his costume 100,000 times, but what I fear the most is the main character"

Nobodyman

@MiyamotoMusashi:

To quote the most famous martial artist: "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times".

Which is why Ichigo always uses Getsuga Tenshou.

Hey, I'm just sayin'.

auem

when i Google searched 'read '

the first three responses i get are

read online
read Naruto
read it

what do you guys get?

Pookiez

the same.

black-leg jex

read all about it
read write inc
read books online

so 100% not the same

Cyclone_Baroness

I get Reader, Readit, Read Naruto.

Sander

Nope,no Nardo for me.

Yube

@auem:

when i Google searched 'read '

the first three responses i get are

read online
read Naruto
read it

what do you guys get?

It's more interesting with the first 5 :ninja:
read online
read naruto
read it later
read bleach
read or die

Pookiez

@Cyclone_Baroness:

I get Reader, Readit, Read Naruto.

you didn't put a space after "read" :P

Cyclone_Baroness

@Pookiez:

you didn't put a space after "read" :P

You're right, I didn't lol.

CP9_agent

I'm still waiting until we get more divisions. Whoever said the division numbers are only positive numbers :P

I'm still betting Aizen never got captured he just made it look like he was though

Lint

Meh… my prediction you read it here first: Ichigo is one step away from awakening sharingan!!

Daz

Ichigo is propably the most screwed over protagonist in shonen history.
For nearly the entire series, he has either been unwittingly manipulated, or mindfucked.
I mean, for what, 400+ chapters everything Ichigo did was in the PALM OF MY HAND of Aizen. And in the very next arc, Ginjo and SS takes turn using Ichigo for their own ends, and Ichigos psyche is destroyed in a way that would make Aizen proud. And here we are again.

You know, at the end of the day, I think his final fight against Aizen and the one chapter where he retrieved Ginjos corpse are about the only times in the entire series where Ichigo is on top of things, and isn't serving some hidden agenda.