Btw it's natural Neptune and jinbe would not feed luffy candys if so but do they even know these candys are drugs?
Chapter 665: "Candy"
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Gear second just pumps blood, nothing to do with drugs.
No but it's effects were compared to "Doping"
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Btw it's natural Neptune and jinbe would not feed luffy candys if so but do they even know these candys are drugs?
Or the Candies are "treated" later - which is possible
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The two giant brothers got sent after the marines which is why they did not capture the strawhat's if they are not fakes made by the samurai!
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Gear 2nd?
It was compared to doping perhaps because his body is used to more extreme uses it had little effect - Luffy's inherent Bio Feedback ability to convert food into energy superceeds it's drug qualities?That's a good theory as to why he could survive being drugged, but it still wouldn't be right for King Neptune and Jinbe to give Luffy huge amounts of drug induced candy. I like the whole Candy theme that is going on this saga which I think is the Big Mam saga. But with the Samurai from Wano being present this could also be the Wano Saga? If I had to bet on which saga it is though I'd say its the Big Mam Saga.
All that aside, I liked this chapter alot. It was a good story-driven chapter.
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This chapter was kind of dark with all this drug and withdrawal stuff. I honestly like it, even though it surprised me that Oda would (and could) do something like this. This arc is getting better and better. I can't wait to see the conclusion to all this. You know what, I'm not even disappointed that those kids didn't turn out to be real giants, not in the slightest even though this crushes my "Uncle Lacroix" and "Admiral John Giant's son" dreams.
Also, yay, that cute "little" giant kid got a name!
Hahaha, "Don't ever speak in Chopper's body again…"
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No but it's effects were compared to "Doping"
yeah, but that doesn't he's know inmune to doping or drugs. G2 is comparing to doping becuase both enhance your physical condition through an artificail way, since G2 doesn't share the secondary effects of doping the comparison ends there.
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Btw it's natural Neptune and jinbe would not feed luffy candys if so but do they even know these candys are drugs?
They were made on a fishman island factory by fishmen, so unless they wanted to addict Big Mom to their candy and knowingly fed drugs to Strawhats it's unlikely to the point of impossibility.
This is dumb predictions territory. You might as well be saying that they fed them energy steroids because they also happened to look like candy. -
@Law:
The two giant brothers got sent after the marines which is why they did not capture the strawhat's if they are not fakes made by the samurai!
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/665/17He sent soldiers to deal with the marines.
"Monet said to be very careful!! It may be over doing it, but… I sent "Those" two over there"
She said to be careful with the strawhats not the marines. -
Good chapter besides the cover… I really wasn't expecting Oda to do this with Magellan, I though he would go after the prisioners, unless he got his fruit taken by BB(which I'm assuming he did) I really am pissed that Oda did this to a great character.
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Good chapter besides the cover… I really wasn't expecting Oda to do this with Magellan, I though he would go after the prisioners, unless he got his fruit taken by BB(which I'm assuming he did) I really am pissed that Oda did this to a great character.
I'm thinking that Blackbeard can only extract a person's ability shortly after they die, hence why he pounced on Whitebeard as soon as possible. Once a person with an ability dies and too much time passes, the fruit grows again (wherever the hell they do), so Blackbeard probably jumps in and interrupts the process before that can happen. The Blackbeard Pirates are on an ability "hunt", and they don't seem the type to catch and release. Don't worry, I'm sure the Venom Demon still lives. Also, as others mentioned, the extraction of Whitebeard's ability was Blackbeard's the first ever attempt, so Magellan definitely still has his ability (and one hot, sadistic babe lusting after him)…
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Good chapter besides the cover… I really wasn't expecting Oda to do this with Magellan, I though he would go after the prisioners, unless he got his fruit taken by BB(which I'm assuming he did) I really am pissed that Oda did this to a great character.
Considering that Shiliew and the others weren't even sure that the DF extraction would work and were ready to leave Blackbeard, they certainly didn't take Magellan's power.
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yeah, but that doesn't he's know inmune to doping or drugs. G2 is comparing to doping becuase both enhance your physical condition through an artificail way, since G2 doesn't share the secondary effects of doping the comparison ends there.
Good thing about speculation is it's neither right or wrong till information is provided. This is speculation since I am not saying its certain - I think you're right though - FI making the drug effected candy is probably wrong - but supplying candy to be altered is possible.
Especially if Big Mom wants these kids developed into some kind of army?
Actually speculation is getting away from me a bit …
I'll cool it down for a bit - but I still think the Candy is the link. -
@No:
Informative.
Anyways, anyone hoping Brownbeard will do something later when he finds out what Caesar's been doing to his men ?
What do you expect him to do?
Good chapter besides the cover… I really wasn't expecting Oda to do this with Magellan, I though he would go after the prisioners, unless he got his fruit taken by BB(which I'm assuming he did) I really am pissed that Oda did this to a great character.
I don't think they would've let him go after the prisoners anyway, and remember when BB wanted to take WB's fruit they weren't sure it will work which means he hasn't tried it before.
But the demotion is strange and so it may have come from Akainu himself as punishment for letting the prisoners escape.It's also strange how his body parts are right now. If his horns weren't real then why didn't he just replaced them with new ones rather than these Usopp-like fixes.
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I doubt Akainu can demote Magellan, since he is not part of the Marines. If anyone demoted him (and if it wasn't Magellan who demoted himself), it would be Kong. No need for the Gorosei to deal with his demotion.
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Good thing about speculation is it's neither right or wrong till information is provided. This is speculation since I am not saying its certain - I think you're right though - FI making the drug effected candy is probably wrong - but supplying candy to be altered is possible.
Especially if Big Mom wants these kids developed into some kind of army?
Actually speculation is getting away from me a bit …
I'll cool it down for a bit - but I still think the Candy is the link.Personally I think it seems to be more of a theme (sweets, candy in general) rather then an actual plot link. Very doubtful that Caesar would need to be supplied with something as trifle as candy by outside sources,
and knowledge of as well as access to high grade chemicals like this also seems to be scientist rather than fishmen domain. He is experimenting after all, as a scientists you wouldn't want to have to rely on outside supplier for pharmaceuticals, it makes for unnecessary variables.What do you expect him to do?
He could turn from villain henchmen to tragic anti-hero by going against CC and getting smacked down, making him sympathetic.
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So Sadi was in fact in love with magellan, this makes sense now (although I wonder what Saldeath was doing on the previous cover)
A fun chapter. Robin made me chuckle but she wasn't drawn particularly well this chaper. Chopper's outrage is nice and it works surprisingly well with Sanji's face. The Yeti brothers look interesting but I doubt they took out the three of them in a fight because I can't imagine they'd be strong enough to take out Zorro, my first instinct was that they used knock out gas again but honestly I hope it's a little more interesting than that.
Can't wait for the next chapter mostly because I've got a great feeling about Kinemon (I'm calling him that til we get confirmation otherwise) is gonna get back together and have a kickass introduction!
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I doubt Akainu can demote Magellan, since he is not part of the Marines. If anyone demoted him (and if it wasn't Magellan who demoted himself), it would be Kong. No need for the Gorosei to deal with his demotion.
True, he can't by himself, but he could have advised Kong to do so, or it could be what you said.
He could turn from villain henchmen to to tragic anti-hero by going against CC and getting smacked, making him sympathetic.
Or he could provide some useful information to Strawhats or marines.I think he would get brain damaged and decide to maybe kill himself after all the shit he's been through in the past 2 years.
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Personally I think it seems to be more of a theme (sweets, candy in general) rather then an actual plot link. Very doubtful that Caesar would need to be supplied with something as trifle as candy by outside sources,
and knowledge of as well as access to high grade chemicals like this also seems to be scientist rather than fishmen domain. He is experimenting after all, as a scientists you wouldn't want to have to rely on outside supplier for pharmaceuticals.If the Kids are growing thanks to the drugs then you would need "Candy" of a large size - or a large amount of Candy.
So yes he could make his own - or he could treat some premade ones with his experiments.
Also lends itself to not being pre-made if the experiments are still happening - obviously at this stage it is just ensuring they have production in place to create the candy to specifications once the experimenting is complete. Kind of makes sense that way, you wouldn't want to have to wait after completing your experiment till you could mass produce. -
I think he would get brain damaged and decide to maybe kill himself after all the shit he's been through in the past 2 years.
Even (or especially) in context of this ark, suicide would be far too dark. Then again…
If the Kids are growing thanks to the drugs then you would need "Candy" of a large size - or a large amount of Candy.
So yes he could make his own - or he could treat some premade ones with his experiments.
Also lends itself to not being pre-made if the experiments are still happening - obviously at this stage it is just ensuring they have production in place to create the candy to specifications once the experimenting is complete. Kind of makes sense that way, you wouldn't want to have to wait after completing your experiment till you could mass produce.I doubt it's fishmen for simple reason that given how much candy Big Mom demanded they are unlikely to overproduce.
They are however in close proximity to PH so if he were to use outside source it would make sense.
What makes me wonder is whether candy is something Caesar simply uses to keep kids docile while experimenting, or whether it is what he actually experiments with and what contains the booster substance.
No real way to know until someone in the know explains what the candy is exactly, or Chopper gets his hands on it to test it.EDIT:
No, candy is just laced with addictive NHC10 after all, to keep kids docile for other experiments.
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Sanji's 'heart' eyes makes me believe the Yeti brothers used some form of ecstacy drug on them.
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There's no blood, they could just be asleep or unconscious.
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Chopper's first awesome moment as a doctor is in Sanji's body.
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Even (or especially) in context of this ark, suicide would be far too dark. Then again…
I doubt it's fishmen for simple reason that given how much candy Big Mom demanded they are unlikely to overproduce.
They are however in close proximity to PH so if he were to use outside source it would make sense.
What makes me wonder is whether candy is something Caesar simply uses to keep kids docile while experimenting, or whether it is what he actually experiments with and what contains the booster substance.
No real way to know until someone in the know explains what the candy is exactly, or Chopper gets his hands on it to test it.I completely agree - I think that Fishmen and Neptune knowlingly producing Drugged Candy is a bit far - although they did seem rather upset about the arrangement with big Mom.
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Chopper's first awesome moment as a doctor is in Sanji's body.
Oda WTF.He didn't do something that he could not have done in his own body. This a character moment if anything, so I don't think it matters that much.
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I think the "candy" is not what's making the kids grow in size and strength. The candy is just a stimulant drug that Chopper has knowledge of. It is to make the kids addicted and won't be able to survive without CC's candy supply so he can keep on experimenting on them. Experiments that is making them big and stronger.
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I think the "candy" is not what's making the kids grow in size and strength. The candy is just a stimulant drug that Chopper has knowledge of. It is to make the kids addicted and won't be able to survive without CC's candy supply so he can keep on experimenting on them. Experiments that is making them big and stronger.
That's what we're all discussing - it's most likely the Candy is treated to be the drug.
We're speculating if the source of the Candy could be Fishmen Island among others supplying Big Mom - who might be working with Ceaser Clown. -
Sanji's 'heart' eyes makes me believe the Yeti brothers used some form of ecstacy drug on them.
You do know that the heart eye is drawn on the mask Usopp made for Sanji, right? Nami's eyes are shut and Brook certainly doesn't look to be in ecstasy…
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Can't wait for the next chapter mostly because I've got a great feeling about Kinemon (I'm calling him that til we get confirmation otherwise) is gonna get back together and have a kickass introduction!
i got a feeling that he will be the one who beat up those yeti brothers. luffy and co somehow got disabled (with nerve gas maybe) and kinemon saves the day.
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That's what we're all discussing - it's most likely the Candy is treated to be the drug.
We're speculating if the source of the Candy could be Fishmen Island among others supplying Big Mom - who might be working with Ceaser Clown.But Big Mom just wants the candy to eat. That's what she says anyway. I highly doubt there's a link with that candy and CC's candy. CC just coated the substance with candy because he's dealing with kids and they like candy. I think that's the only reason. Don't need to make unnecessary links.
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I am pretty sure that something really funny happened to Zoro,Sanji and Brook.We will figure it out later alongside with the reason why they were asleep.
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Hmm, pretty nice chapter. God I hate CC even more now after reading what he did to those kids.
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Sanji's 'heart' eyes makes me believe the Yeti brothers used some form of ecstacy drug on them.
Heart eyes? On the mask? It's been there since the previous chapter, lol.
While I'm a bit disappointed with the way things turned out for Magellan, his demotion makes perfect sense. Hell, he would've been ousted given his failures, but the government probably reconsidered since he still managed to stop many prisoners from escaping.
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I completely agree - I think that Fishmen and Neptune knowlingly producing Drugged Candy is a bit far - although they did seem rather upset about the arrangement with big Mom.
But the supply factor is more likely in general.What told you Neptune and fishmen knew the candies were drugged?
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That's what we're all discussing - it's most likely the Candy is treated to be the drug.
We're speculating if the source of the Candy could be Fishmen Island among others supplying Big Mom - who might be working with Ceaser Clown.CC would have never been ranked just below Vegapunk 4 years ago if he did not know how to make Candy when Candy is easier to make than bread….
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I'm thinking that the Yeti Brothers used some kinda sleeping gas or something on Zoro's Squad and surprised them. Or they passed out from the cold. Otherwise, I don't think they could be take out so easily.
And this was a really awesome chapter for Chopper. He's my favorite Straw Hat, and this chapter really cemented him in that spot for me.
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Great chapter. Franky as Chopper is awesome, but more than that is where the plot is headed. I was really disturbed by the drug plot, even more by the fact that is about little children, being experimented on. Oda really goes all out when the story is shape around children or chilhood, all the flashbacks of the main characters and the antagonist by that fact. This chapter really stood out for me and remind me, why this series is this good.
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Them dudes have rifles: could they have shot them from afar? Maybe some sleeping gas like before on the boat, or something?
Most plausible theory so far.
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Next chapter when?
Also I doubt the Yeti's used gas because it shouldn't affect Brook.
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That was a fast release. :( It will feel much longer waiting for the next chapter now. NOOOOO!
Oh well…at least I got Yotsuba! to read.
Interesting chapter. Yeti brothers huh, looking at that page where in Brooke, Sanji, and Zoro were unconscious, the footprints seemed intact and not indicating the brothers to rampaging and messing up the fragile snow cover layer. I speculate a long range attack..tranquilizer bullets perhaps...but still how did Brooke get affected...he is all bone. :S
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Next chapter when?
Also I doubt the Yeti's used gas because it shouldn't affect Brook.
The sleeping gas did affect Brook when the goatmen knocked the Strawhats with it on Sunny.
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Love how for over a week, people have been shipping SaldeathxSadie, believing it's canon.
Damn your misleadingness, Oda!
though good to see Magellan has someone who likes him.
I'm pretty sure the toilets don't.
MagellanxToilets.
he always tops.
Yeah.Whilst my fangirl heart is not amused at the small amount of Law, Chopper raging in Sanji's body made the chapter for me.
PRECIOUS BABUUUUUU < / 3 Q o Qalso love how most people seem to be blaming these experiments on Law… most of them were probably CC's doing... or a combination? y'never know. I have a feeling Law is responsible for the helping make the candy but without knowing what the other would be using it on.
Am I the only one who's hoping that the Yeti Cool Brothers are actually Penguin and Shachi?
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What told you Neptune and fishmen knew the candies were drugged?
I don't know either way it's all speculation but as some have pointed out its unlikely
@Law:
CC would have never been ranked just below Vegapunk 4 years ago if he did not know how to make Candy when Candy is easier to make than bread….
Sigh stop thinking that way
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Wow, to say this arc is awesome would be a gross understatement. I burst out laughing any time I saw Franky's expressions in Chopper, seriously thats how Chopper should look from now on, not his sickeningly cute one.
I honestly think the addiction to candy thing was a nice a touch by Oda a a writer and a surprisingly good plan for a villain in CC, he is effectively making sure that this Kids are wholly dependent on him and if the theory that he is breeding super soldiers holds up, then he has the loyalty of said bred soldiers.
Chopper, wow, great character development from him, and him been in Sanji's body makes his outrage seem more genuine? I can't think of the right word but just wow. Does anyone think this is the arc where Chopper completely defines himself as a doctor and therefore recieve a entry number(am not sure whether he has one but I remember someone saying he hasn't) just like Ussop did in enies lobby?
The Yetti bro's seem cool but unfortunately in One piece been a giant just means you're the easiest person to beat and look cool, So am betting Kinemon is the one who will kick their ass.
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Super Yeti Bros. Punk Hazard Edition
Anyway, I'm liking how CC has many henchmen.
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Very nice chapter! There is a lot of build up and brilliant development on Choppers part! I am seriously having a blast with the strawhats switching bodies, Franky in Choppers body is hilarious.
I think Oda is doing something wonderful here. On every occation he gets he demonstrates the terrible downsides that most (REALLIFE) drugs have. I always jonkingly say that I want some of the stuff that Oda's is having to make this series, but this is some serious bussiness. Very good. -
While I'm a bit disappointed with the way things turned out for Magellan, his demotion makes perfect sense. Hell, he would've been ousted given his failures, but the government probably reconsidered since he still managed to stop many prisoners from escaping.
Actually, it's more likely Magellan took responsibility for the Impel Down breakout and resigned, but was persuaded to stay on by his subordinates as Vice-Warden.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-50569-14/one-piece/chapter-581.html
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First, Brook and Robin tood the chapter in terms of humor, but after that, wow, this was a dark chapter. Drugging kids, dang Oda, you going to dark places with the manga lately.