Kim Jong-il dead.
Mery Fucking Chrismtas 2011.
Kim Jong-il dead.
Mery Fucking Chrismtas 2011.
@RobbyBevard:
Kim Jong Il Dead at 69. God, what is South Park going to do next year?
Nah. We can play with fate when it comes to if Hunter X Hunter is going on hiatus, or if Jinbe is joining the crew… but why tease the Reaper when he's doing so admirably at the moment?
….......
You got me there.
I.. I totally called this. HAHAHAHA.
2011 we love you so.
Crazy, this week has been.
Robert Mugabe suddenly collapses in his home, clutching a hand to his chest.
When pressed for a reason, Mugabe cryptically said "It's coming…dear god IT'S COMING...!"
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Theme of 2011
1 more, oh please one more for this year.
Holy crap, people we need a list of all the evil people out of power this year.
Ahem
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Aaaaaaaand Putin's chokehold on Russia.
2011 .
:swanson:
@Cyan:
Robert Mugabe suddenly collapses in his home, clutching a hand to his chest.
When pressed for a reason, Mugabe cryptically said "It's coming…dear god IT'S COMING...!"
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Theme of 2011
I wish Mugabe would fall of a plane and land on Obiang.
Is there anyone else left in africa to realy worry about ?
Joseph Kony's still running around, and there's always Bouteflika and pretty much the entire D.R. Congo.
@No:
Is there anyone else left in africa to realy worry about ?
Plenty; Isias Afewerki of Eritrea for one.
For anyone who thought mubarak was bad have a look at current rulers. Someone needs to put a bullet through those asshole.
I saw this clip on a local news channel today don't know if it was aired on western media or not.
For anyone who thought mubarak was bad have a look at current rulers. Someone needs to put a bullet through those asshole.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-0-0F34FA3300000578-7_634x444.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F34C99300000578-864_634x416.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F337D1600000578-101_634x380.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F32BF5300000578-58_634x432.jpg
I saw this clip on a local news channel today don't know if it was aired on western media or not.
Aw shit.
When the revolution first happened, I was still glued to NPR for updates and I kept hearing about how the military was already showing signs of some corruption, but I kept telling myself 'Don't be a downer, at least it's still progress.'
Fuck you…you know what, I'm not even going to dignify anyone with a name I'm too lazy to look up. You people all act the same.
Fucking asses.
EDIT: Ftr, I know I brought up concerns before and was told that it was a good sign that people were still protesting and all that, but still stuff like that just bites.
I don't even want to know how bad Syria is on the ground. I'm still waiting for the day Assad finally croaks.
[h=6]An advisor to Egypt's rulying military council called General Katu has told the media: "Protesters should be burnt in Hitler's gas chambers".[/h]
An advisor to Egypt's rulying military council called General Katu has told the media: "Protesters should be burnt in Hitler's gas chambers".
I just saw that on Facebook.
Who are these people? Were they around before Mubarak was ousted and being geopolitically blind I've missed them, or are these just bottom feeders taking advantage of the power vacuum?
Probably both. Some of them are people who were around back then that Mubarak kept a tight leash on to avoid offending the West/simply blamed it on Mubarak in the first place and some of them are people that have slipped into power since his fall that have no business being there.
One of the problems with tyrannical governments is that it creates political exiles that can range from genuinely good, decent people that had to leave purely for political reasons as well as scumbags who had to get the hell out of Dodge because of something else and simply claim it was political. It's hard to distinguish which are which sometimes; I'm pretty sure that a few of the higher profile Iraqi exiles from before the US invasion in 2003 fell into the latter category with at least one of them having originally left Iraq because he lost a lot of Saddam's money in some get-rich-quick-scheme.
Being able to tell who is legit and who isn't when it comes to actual political crimes is extremely difficult if only because doing so requires a level of cooperation from the original people that you won't often get if it is even possible. Somebody who had to flee the government because of corrupt business dealings probably wouldn't be recorded that way because of how bad it makes the government look..
For anyone who thought mubarak was bad have a look at current rulers. Someone needs to put a bullet through those asshole.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-0-0F34FA3300000578-7_634x444.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F34C99300000578-864_634x416.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F337D1600000578-101_634x380.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/18/article-2075683-0F32BF5300000578-58_634x432.jpg
I saw this clip on a local news channel today don't know if it was aired on western media or not.
Oust a tyrannical dictator and there's always the chance another or an even a group of power hungry assholes with little compassion for the people or what they were fighting for can take his/her place. That risk is always there when trying to change the leadership of a dictatorial government. Doesn't mean the risk shouldn't be taken. It's better to try and make things better than sit back and worry about making it worse. With that said you're completely right. It would seem a bunch of assholes moved in to take over the gap in government Murbarak's leaving created.
In this case I really don't know if the situation is worse, but I don't believe so. The Egyptian people know how it feels to fight for their freedom and win. That's a great accomplishment for the country and definitely the right path to be on. Looking at something like this though…it simply feels like the fight really isn't over yet as many people stated when Mubarak first lost power. I hope other countries learn from this and know even if you take out the head of the snake doesn't always mean you'll kill it. It could be a Hydra.
Oh, and fuck those guys in the video! Teaming up and beating down on helpless protestors.
Boom shaka laka, 10,000 Syrian army soldiers have deserted up till now. The top brass is loyal to Assad but lower ranked men are dropping out like there's no tomorrow
Last time I checked the Free Syrian Army claimed to have more than 20,000 soldiers.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/12/20111222133059241628.html
Arab League's monitors are supposed to arrive to Syria today, after Syria signed the protocol we talked about 2 pages ago. Since the deal was signed, not only did the regime kill more people than usual (about 250 in 2 days), according to reports, they started moving a lot of the prisoners they have to places were the observers can't go to.
Now, even the implementing of this protocol is highly unlikely and it could be just a way for them to get more time to do what they do best…
I'm really, really disgusted and disappointed with the Egyptian military. Before things were settled there, I had a chance to talk to a few Egyptian people, and they all said that the military cares for the people much better than the government, and that there is a bond of trust there. For example, when there was a bread famine/shortage a few years ago, the military just gave out a shit ton of bread from their personal storehouses. And they were siding with the protesters against the police during the revolution.
It's just really sad to see how well absolute power corrupts absolutely, in this case.
It never gets any easier when you see horrifying images like that. It doesn't matter whether they're from minutes, days, years or decades ago, the shock value still remains the same.
Ah, if only life matched up to the vague depictions presented in grade school history text books. Then there'd only be 1/2 the horror and brutality of reality. Then again, I guess it wouldn't make passing on the stories very interesting.
In regards to the Egyptian military, it sickens me to see this once glorious country reduced to shambles over power struggles and despisal of outside ideas. The dammed idiots just keep digging themselves deeper into their own madness and taking anyone who oppose them with them. It woudln't be half as bad if there wasn't so much bloodshed.
That's not really a very horrifying image.
The horrifying images aren't being broadcast on TV let alone new sites.
Maybe I'm just jaded, but a woman being roughed up in a protest is nothing whatsoever next to the sorts of thing to be happening in Syria and Yemen right now. Or were happening in Libya earlier.
True it's not a graphically horrifying image, yet in regards to the human conscience it is horrifying to know that such brutality occurs in our world. I know from experience that the images hidden behind the scenes are incomprehensibly more horrifying than what the media is allowed to put out.
And for me it's not so much the fact that it's women who are being roughed up in those images- it's moreso the fact that there are several hundreds-if not thousands of people from multiple age groups from both ends of the gender pool who are physically beaten by those military officers for no reason more than their different viewpoints on the belief systems instilled by their attackers. The fact is, countless billions of people have died through the world during the existance of the world and a vast collection of said people died of unjust means. Granted, moral values differ greatly depending on where a person is from and from which time period they lived, but the fact remains that inflicted death or injury upon one another is barbaric - particularly when it is publically displayed for all to see and is for the purpose of setting an example for all to behold.
I think the thing that horrifies me the most about that first image is the guy on the left that's actually smiling while doing it. It's one thing to see bad crap to happen, but to see that type of expression while committing it just puts shivers down my spine.
Recession revolutions go go go
http://www.newstatesman.com/asia/2012/01/pilger-india-land-advertising
The beginnings of an uprising in India
What is always exciting about India is this refusal to comply with political mythology and gross injustice. As Sunil Khilnani wrote in The Idea of India: "The future of western political theory will be decided outside the west." For the majorities of India and the west, liberal democracy is now diminished to "the assertion of an equal right to consume [media] images".
So then anyone think the arab league will solve the conflict in Iran? Or at least do so before Iran closes the oil routes and ends up in an all out war with the US?
The Arab League and Iran? Don't you mean Syria?
The Arab League has no power or influence in Iran aside from being essentially made up of mostly enemies of Iran who are more likely to want to use war to destroy that regime than anything else.
I'm not sure if the Arab League would have much power in Iran, considering that Iran is culturally and ethnically separate from the Arab world and doesn't have very good relations with them. I know that the Arab governments dislike the idea of a nuclear Iran as much as the US does, but I'm not sure if they can do much about it (someone more knowledgeable than me should correct me if I'm wrong).
The Arab League barely has any influence on countries under it, to tell you the truth, let alone Iran.
And, I know it became like a festival right now where everybody want or say that there has to be a war with Iran or else, and every month you get somebody who say that they're ready to do so. Yet, I can't see it happening right now or in the near future.
Watching the news right now is like watching two kids in school where they both start threatening each other while you're watching from afar laughing at them because you know they're just bluffing each other, and nobody would do anything.
I don't have anything new to report regarding the eastern revolutions, but I felt this should be in here:
I'd been wondering about this for awhile, and I'm glad I was right. It would have been surprising and very disappointing if Time had picked someone else for 2011's Person of the Year cover.
I dunno if I'd equate the people from the Occupy movement to the people partaking in the Arab Spring.
@Monkey:
The Arab League and Iran? Don't you mean Syria?
The Arab League has no power or influence in Iran aside from being essentially made up of mostly enemies of Iran who are more likely to want to use war to destroy that regime than anything else.
Oh god im just too bamboozled to know any more.
Someone draw me an idiot-proof guide of just what's going on!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16397975
[h=1]Syrian army deserters 'kill 18' of Assad's goons.[/h]
Oh god im just too bamboozled to know any more.
Someone draw me an idiot-proof guide of just what's going on!
Well for starters, Iran is Persia. So it's not Arab at all. They just live next door. Kind of like the Turks.
So that kind of right there should tell you they aren't part of the Arab League or under their jurisdiction.
From We Are All Khaled Said:
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[h=6]Prosecutor in trial of Hosni Mubarak demands death penalty for ousted Egyptian leader"[/h]"
[h=6]Warning: Graphic video. Not for the light hearted. In this video, AlAssad regime soldiers beat up a Syrian with a stick, punch and kick him telling him: "Who is your God? Bashar AlAssad is your god". Then they tell the man to kneel to AlAssad's photo which he doesn't and spit on it. They then start hitting him stronger.
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I'm sorry I have to post this awful video but the world must see the reality of Bashar AlAssad regime[/h]
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@No:
I dunno if I'd equate the people from the Occupy movement to the people partaking in the Arab Spring.
In a general perspective they are all protestors and I believe that's what the magazine was going for when it said "The Protestor" was the person of the year. The flames of protest were unnaturally high and influential in 2011, or at least more noticable, so instead of excluding one group of protestors from another they gave them all a respective nod. Granted the Arab Spring protestors have accomplished something much more because they sacrificed much more, but the Occupy protestors did bring much deserved attention to fiscal inequality and…well...a barrage of other issues bunched together. Not comparing mind you.
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@Cuddles:
From We Are All Khaled Said:
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Prosecutor in trial of Hosni Mubarak demands death penalty for ousted Egyptian leader""
Warning: Graphic video. Not for the light hearted. In this video, AlAssad regime soldiers beat up a Syrian with a stick, punch and kick him telling him: "Who is your God? Bashar AlAssad is your god". Then they tell the man to kneel to AlAssad's photo which he doesn't and spit on it. They then start hitting him stronger.
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I'm sorry I have to post this awful video but the world must see the reality of Bashar AlAssad regime[hide]
Does AlAssad really have people bend down to his picture and worship it? Does he really cast himself as a God or is this just the deluded mentality of his army? What a fuck up.
I do not want to say that your video is fake Hans, but this is nothing compared to the videos i have seen during Libya. I wouldn't be surprised if that footage was a bunch of actors trying to help their cause.
also, the videos we got were footage from mobiles found in dead Gaddafi soldiers bodies.
@bartholemew:
I do not want to say that your video is fake Hans, but this is nothing compared to the videos i have seen during Libya. I wouldn't be surprised if that footage was a bunch of actors trying to help their cause.
also, the videos we got were footage from mobiles found in dead Gaddafi soldiers bodies.
I wouldn't know that, I'm just passing on what that Facebook guy is saying. I normally don't but I didn't see anything here about the death sentence for Mubarak and I thought I'd add that as well.
Omar al-Bashir visits Libya, offers to help disarm rebels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16454493
The fact that Libya is welcoming a genocidal dictator into the country with open arms has me pretty worried.
Omar al-Bashir has been supplying the South of the country for years with weapons, he really hated Gaddafi.
Though it is good that he came, it is always important to fix relations with your neighboring countries
Yeah, the fact of the matter is you need to try and get along with neighbors. Fact of life.
Newly revolutionized Libya isn't the US or China or something, it's not a huge superpower tht can afford to tell Bashir to fuck off.
Shock of shocks, the strife in Syria is all the handiwork of a vast foreign conspiracy–so sayeth Assad.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16498788
"Our priority now is to regain the security in which we basked in for decades, and this can only be achieved by hitting the terrorists with an iron fist.
Seems legit
Dictator's Guide to Iron Fisted Leadership
Lesson #22: When in Doubt, Blame Other Countries
Meanwhile, in Egypt…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748
Can't say I'm surprised by the Islamists winning the elections. At least it's better than continued army rule.
EDIT: Saudi Arabia's pulled out of the Arab league monitoring, asks for more international pressure on Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16670007
At least it's not the super conservative Islamist party.
@Mr.:
Meanwhile, in Egypt…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16665748
Can't say I'm surprised by the Islamists winning the elections. At least it's better than continued army rule.
EDIT: Saudi Arabia's pulled out of the Arab league monitoring, asks for more international pressure on Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16670007
Again, your regime is criticised by Saudi Arabia, then you went and done something horribly wrong.
Even Saudi Arabia has standards.
Since this thread is alive once again i suppose i will give you a quick update.
1. Chaos everywhere
2. Country fucked up
3. Ghoga Shot
4. Ghoga retired
5. NTC building demolished
6. University is tripoli in flames
7. No incoming money
8. Guns are everywhere
9. Police are useless
10. Money is disappearing with no benefit.
We are planning to move abroad, first choice is Dubai.
@bartholemew:
Since this thread is alive once again i suppose i will give you a quick update.
1. Chaos everywhere
2. Country fucked up
3. Ghoga Shot
4. Ghoga retired
5. NTC building demolished
6. University is tripoli in flames
7. No incoming money
8. Guns are everywhere
9. Police are useless
10. Money is disappearing with no benefit.
Yep. The power struggles of the different factions were obvious from day one. Though tbh I can't think of a way of avoiding this kind of conundrum. Or at least have it reach a decent goal without some kind of tension.
We are planning to move abroad, first choice is Dubai.
Come to Oz dude. The land of milk and honey~ lol