So, nightmare Luffy, with the shadows of all the strawhats, vs Kaidoh.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
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So, nightmare Luffy, with the shadows of all the strawhats, vs Kaidoh.
That certainly is a possibility.
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I think he's trying to help destabilize New World and the balance of power faster with his scoops on what the pirates are doing or planning to do. When you think about it, he can manipulate the movements of marines and other pirates by deciding which news to release and which not to release.
We've already seen him adjust his strategy once after losing his whole crew to Kaido. So I think his new angle is letting major forces take eachother out before he makes any move.
like your thinking, def see this happening.
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So I was thinking Laws fruit can give people immortality, switch personality, remove poison from the body, take out internal organs etc. So what if like the yami yami no mi his devil fruit ability could separate the devil fruit from the body. I know Oda may not give two fruit the same exact power but I think base on what we know of the ope ope fruit there is a possibility it could do this. I know we still don't know how BB fruit works in that regards, even though I feel he is able to pull the devil fru it essence from ones body and then release it in some else just like black hole.
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The OP fruit is already OP enough, and if it could, I'm guessing that Law would be a primary target for Blackbeard.
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Does anyone have any good theories on why Moriah, got Absalom to go undercover as a reporter?
The only thing can think of is he's ready to make his move. By having Absalom report all these big story's around the new World. It takes the WG attentions off him a little.
If Absalom has big value as reporter he can be great tool in one future situation.
He can make fake "last moment news" timed properly - that would have not been checked before printing out newspaper.Fake news can consider for example some strong pirate falling in New World and Island being full of fighting for example so somebody might want to join in and take over island.
I just woke up so Im pretty bad at making some understandable lines. :ninja:Point is that "famous" reporter with a lot of credit can help create chaos or lure some pirates in choosen place.
Lets say there are news in newspaper from Absa that Kaidos favourite island was taken over by some rookies(not giving name or giving one almost unknown/ fake name) so Kaido sends out some of his men like Drake. Then Drake/ other commander gets taken out by pirates that really are on island. No communication with Kaido and he doesnt know what is happening- sends another person or starts moving himself. That is also a way to go. So something like Drake did but with intention of taking out at least one commander first, weakening Kaidos forces.First idea that came to my mind really, maybe I will come up with more uses.
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Use spoiler tags man - some people are yet to read Naruto - as for concept of Doflamingo being alike to Madara, difference is that Madara had bit different intentions.
We can discuss it in PM as here it might be deleted I guess.Spoiler tags are common courtesy, but I kinda doubt anybody hasn't read naruto. Those that dropped the series won't really care.
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You never know. I saw couple of users who said they didn't read it or they dropped it at some point and plan to finish it sometime.
One user spoiled something from Toriko in 7 Deadly Sins thread and when I confronted him he said I'd be right if it was 2010 but it was 2015. The fuck does that even mean?
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Look, let's not make any assumptions about how long of a grace period you get to read a series.
Any comparisons you guys want to make with other series, go right ahead, but if said comparisons contain spoilers, let's just use the spoiler tags as they're meant to be used.
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I put this in the chapter thread, but I will put it here, since a number of things can get skimmed over there, and you get many people who avoid the chapter discussions. Mods, if you don't like me reposting something from one thread to here, let me know and I'll remove it from here.
So after thinking about the chapter, I came up with some theories about the immortality operation of Laws fruit, mainly about how it works, and ideas of how it might be used, or possibly has been used by Law already.
We know Law has the ability to remove the heart of a person when he touches a person to remove it. It's been the heart only we've seen, which makes sense with all the heart motifs from this arc. It's safe to assume that he can remove any and all organs as well. We've seen that despite the heart being removed, the person and organ still functions. Perhaps part of the immortality operation is removal of all organs. This allows the person to still be active, but if they get physically hurt in a certain area, the organ will not be hurt, and it won't be fatal due to the organ being okay. The trick would be that the organs would need to be kept safe and hidden, that way no one could come and just stab the heart to kill the person. Doflamingo would easily in his position be able to safely put the organs away.
The next part is a bit trickier, and it depends on if the translations are solid. Before, we thought it was Laws stamina that drained when using his power. This chapter, it was said to be his life force draining. Aohige's summary states that it's his actual life. I'm going to have to go with the idea that his actual life is drained, but if this is not the case, then the argument falls about, but I'll go with it just for argument and discussion sake.
So if Law is using up his life to make and keep his room opened up, perhaps the room is made up of his life energy. Keeping it open could allow some of his life to leak out, and using attacks could probably use up his life force. Even if not the case, his use of the room is connected to his life in some way. If we look back to Thriller Bark, we saw Kuma having the ability to remove someone's pain, and transfer it to someone else. If Kuma can remove a persons pain and transfer it to someone else, then Law, who is able to switch personalities and do all sorts of medical stuff, should be able to do something similar. Perhaps like a blood transfusion, Law can do a life transfusion, only Law can only take his life and give it to someone else.
If that is the case, then it's not really an immortality operation, but something that expands a persons lifespan, and by taking out their organs, death can't apply by many ways that it could happen. There are some other theories that could come from this, but I won't go into detail, mainly that it would be interesting that people think it is immortality that happens. My best guess is that either someone had the operation, and when they were shot in the head or heart, they were fine; or it is a cover up by some one in the WG for reasons we don't know. Either way, if there was some one (or some people), that have been around for 100's of years, they might have to have the operation every so often to stay alive. In some ways, it would be like a person giving up an organ that diminishes their life, and prolongs another persons life for so long.
With this theory in mind about the operation, I have two ideas about what could happen with Law using it. Luffy has a near gear that expends his life force quite a bit. From many battles, his life has diminished to the point where he will die very soon. Law, having been with him for a number of adventures, decides that Luffy is the one who should become Pirate King. He decided to give Luffy his life, so that he may continue to go on, and become the Pirate King.
The second theory is one I think could be more likely. In Impel Down, everyone was surprised that Luffy was able to hold up for so long, and thought he was dead. He got up, but was warned that his life span had significantly decreased. Perhaps it was much more than they thought. Luffy was down badly after Aces death, and was in very bad condition. There is a possibility that his organs were in bad shape. Law, while treating Luffy, saw he was in bad shape and noticed that he had very little time to live. Seeing something in him, he decides to give a significant amount of his life to him, even though he doesn't know why he's doing it. Luffy is alive because Law extended his life so he could fight on. Perhaps this could lead Law to a point where he's back to his childhood, where he only has three years to live.
So that's my theories, with much conjecture. While it relies on a number of speculations, I feel it's plausible enough. Let me know what you think.
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So, nightmare Luffy, with the shadows of all the strawhats, vs Kaidoh.
Moria isn't going to play with Luffy I don't think, no matter what. He might hate Kaidou more, but he's not going to use his powers to give Luffy a boost. He hates Luffy a lot too.
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Moria isn't going to play with Luffy I don't think, no matter what. He might hate Kaidou more, but he's not going to use his powers to give Luffy a boost. He hates Luffy a lot too.
But if it comes down to it I'm sure he'd rather see Kaido taken out. The grudge is older and Luffy destroyed his ambition, not his nakama.
Don't think Nightmare Luffy is likely because don't think Moriah has all the shadows he did before being beaten. But in the unlikely case he does, an entire Niggtmare Straw Hats crew would be cool to see.
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Moria isn't going to play with Luffy I don't think, no matter what. He might hate Kaidou more, but he's not going to use his powers to give Luffy a boost. He hates Luffy a lot too.
He seems to dislike Luffy…but he hates and fears Kaido to the point where he nigh on had a mental breakdown even thinking about what happened to his crew at his hands.
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I think Moria would be glad to fight Kaido at Luffy's side if he can avenge his nakama. Of course he is still Moria, so after the battle, he would betray Luffy.
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Hey, remember how it was said that during the Amber Lead build up that the World Government got the royal family of Flevance out of there. I wonder do you think eventually that we see a member of the royal Flevance family because sometimes Oda mentions stuff and it seems relevant now but later it will be important.
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The asshole nobles will be handled by a combo of Vivi/Dalton/SuperKingTonjit/Iceberg/Hancock(?)/Neptune/Riku during the reverie.
I don't think that Amazon Lily is actualy a member nation.
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The person doing things in the palace near Koala is not Burgess. It actually is
! Caesar.
! Let's start from the fact that Oda doesn't do pointless things, or generally subtly reminds us of things that will happen in the near future (for example, Luffy remembering growing in the Goa Kingdom, just like Sabo that appeared later). Law did in fact remind us of Caesar being taken away from Doffy, and that in general his Smile production is screwed without him. It would also help to have him show us via flashback what happened to the Sanji group, instead of popping it out of nowhere sometime in the future (Oda never jumps from an island to whatever other people are doing somewhere else without a reason).
! The fact that from the small panel of that it didnt seem to have people super beat up or crashed walls or anything, so maybe it was just Caesar doing his Karakuni to dispose of them silently.
! I would like to see if Caesars ability would be able to extinguish Sabo's fire also.But it's just wishful thinking since it's probably going to be Burgess anyway
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caesar on the boat with the other half of the crew on route to Zou
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With sea stone handcuffs and Big Mom's people tailing him. There's no chance of it being Caesar.
On the power scale (of someone unafiliated with the family that Koala doesn't even dare to take down) it's just Burgess and CP0. And I don't think that CP0 stayed after their little spech.
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With sea stone handcuffs and Big Mom's people tailing him. There's no chance of it being Caesar.
On the power scale (of someone unafiliated with the family that Koala doesn't even dare to take down) it's just Burgess and CP0. And I don't think that CP0 stayed after their little spech.
Yes i know it's super very unlikely, but instead of a predictable rematch i would like something unexpected.
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Once the arc starts, that's not how one piece works.
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I think after Doflamingo is defeated I think his worst nightmare will come true again which is being on the run from people who want him dead. Although this time it will be self inflicted because of his past actions.
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I had hard time deciding if I should post it here or in dumb predictions thread but here it goes
http://readms.com/r/one_piece/781/2728/21
Luffys gear fourth is mix of gear second and gear third - he uses gear second and third to pump himself up and harden to grow 8 meters tall and muscular and we will see it for the first time next weekAfter timeskip somebody said that there was gossip of Strawhat being 8(?) meter tall gigant - Oda likes foreshadowings so maybe as funny as it sounded as it was disconnected with Luffys training perhaps Luffy now can do something like turning himself into something close to nightmare Luffy ?
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After timeskip somebody said that there was gossip of Strawhat being 8(?) meter tall - Oda likes foreshadowings so maybe as funny as it sounded as it was disconnected with Luffys training perhaps Luffy now can do something like turning himself into something close to nightmare Luffy ?
I remember that line. I'd hate it but it's always a possibility.
If Ussopp had said that line, there would be no question about it.
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I remember that line. I'd hate it but it's always a possibility.
If Ussopp had said that line, there would be no question about it.
With characters like Lucci, Lao G, Vergo getting all buff in moments who knows what Luffy can do now with his devil fruit.
Its more laughable than anything but imagine Luffy transforming hulk style and growing taller than Doflamingo on first pages of next chapter so their proportions switch with Luffy being times bigger than Doflamingo
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I had hard time deciding if I should post it here or in dumb predictions thread but here it goes
http://readms.com/r/one_piece/781/2728/21
Luffys gear fourth is mix of gear second and gear third - he uses gear second and third to pump himself up and harden to grow 8 meters tall and muscular and we will see it for the first time next weekAfter timeskip somebody said that there was gossip of Strawhat being 8(?) meter tall gigant - Oda likes foreshadowings so maybe as funny as it sounded as it was disconnected with Luffys training perhaps Luffy now can do something like turning himself into something close to nightmare Luffy ?
Didn't he do that to finish Moria already? Don't think something as unoriginal as that would be a Gear Fourth.
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Didn't he do that to finish Moria already? Don't think something as unoriginal as that would be a Gear Fourth.
Well I also thought out idea of Luffy being able to use his body in similar way to Dial.
As for unoriginal way for Luffys gear 4th - Luffy shown that he learns also from enemies, example being Soru. I also somehow expect that he also will work out something after seeing Kings Punch. He searches for ways he can use his devil fruit in most effective ways all the time and with 2 years of timeskip for training I expect him to be able to show us something new.
So why not to try and mix what is best about gear 2nd and 3rd?
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I am curious to know how the government would handle the after effects of this Arc. Law and Luffy would ideally be getting the blame for Dofla's defeat causing both Law and Dofla to be removed from the title. So basically, the Shichibukais would contain just 5 people? Interesting to see how the government will handle this
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
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I am curious to know how the government would handle the after effects of this Arc. Law and Luffy would ideally be getting the blame for Dofla's defeat causing both Law and Dofla to be removed from the title. So basically, the Shichibukais would contain just 5 people? Interesting to see how the government will handle this
I'd be pretty pissed off if I had to handle the Shichibukai positions, seeing how those change pretty much every time the Strawhats are involved in something. You'd think the system was overhauled in the meantime and 'trustworthy' (as trustworthy as a pirate can get) fellas were given those titles. Yet look at what's happening again… no surprise the government turned Kuma into a mindless robot.
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I'd be pretty pissed off if I had to handle the Shichibukai positions, seeing how those change pretty much every time the Strawhats are involved in something. You'd think the system was overhauled in the meantime and 'trustworthy' (as trustworthy as a pirate can get) fellas were given those titles. Yet look at what's happening again… no surprise the government turned Kuma into a mindless robot.
I would probably send an admiral to get rid of the problem once and for all but oh wait…
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There will be a lot of talk and set up and nothing that will have any effect within next two years at the very least. Possibly five, if we are not in luck.
It's the goverment; expecting them to do anything pro-active in this series is a fools hope.
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There will be a lot of talk and set up and nothing that will have any effect within next two years at the very least. Possibly five, if we are not in luck.
It's the goverment; expecting them to do anything pro-active in this series is a fools hope.
Won't be surprised if they announce that Law still holds the warlord status to avoid looking overly bad.
'Law the shichibukai savior defeats the mole in the government' - read the headlines boldly, almost with a proud arrogance steaming out from the freshly minted paper. The news coo flaps its wings away from the country facing a new dawn, baptized with the blood of his nemesis just hours ago. He runs through the letters with his trembling fingers relentlessly pounded by blood in excitement and relief. As tears roll through his cheeks he looks up and says 'Cora-san.. hope you can read this. I did it. I finally did it'
Yeah. Not gonna happen.
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There will be a lot of talk and set up and nothing that will have any effect within next two years at the very least. Possibly five, if we are not in luck.
It's the goverment; expecting them to do anything pro-active in this series is a fools hope.
As it stands now, I doubt anyone gives a flying fuck about the government. Pirates and criminals in particular. Why should they after all? Why fear an institution that doesn't have the balls to deal with the plague that is pirates?
If the government want the people to respect them and the bad guys to fear them again, something huge, something drastic needs to happen. Like another execution. Or systemically hunting down and killing famous pirates (fuck ID; we saw how safe a prison it is).
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I think Jesus Burgess will kill Pica and eat his fruit.
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He's pretty far away though.
And how do you suppose he does that on his own, without a fruit basket or Blackbeard with him?
Although, there's still a chance that you don't require fruits or Blackbeard to do it. Him hiding himself and Whitebeard with a blanked might have actually been for a good reason.
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The first flaw in that plan is that Pica won't die.
The second is that it would require Burgess to succede at something.
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The third one is that Jesus is not a Marine
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But Zoro already suprassed Pica's df, Burgueas needs Perona's df, that's one df Zoro can"t surpass.
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Burgess with Hobby fruit?
Turning people into wrestler archetypes instead of toys?
(I feel like we deserve more elaboration on how the fruit works.)
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LittleCherry's fruit is one df Teach would like to have and there is that books of df's so Burguess probably knows about the existence of the heal.heal fruit, if LittleCherry uses her restoration in front of Burguess, she's a kidnaped princess For sure.
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Just imagine Franky with Heal fruit. Walking health dispenser.
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i may be reading too much into things (you can never read too much into things in one piece)
but could part of the reason why Luffy calls Trafalgar Law “torao” be that it sounds like “toreador” ….?
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i may be reading too much into things (you can never read too much into things in one piece)
but could part of the reason why Luffy calls Trafalgar Law “torao” be that it sounds like “toreador” ….?
they are in grand line Spain after all….He calls him Torao because of his tiger theme in Warlords
http://www.shotokanhouston.com/resources/meaning-shotokan/
Most of Warlords are "animal themed" and Torao means "tiger tail".
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_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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The first flaw in that plan is that Pica won't die.
The second is that it would require Burgess to succede at something.
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It can always be done off-panel.
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i may be reading too much into things (you can never read too much into things in one piece)
but could part of the reason why Luffy calls Trafalgar Law “torao” be that it sounds like “toreador” ….?
they are in grand line Spain after all….I think this little bit of text can explain it better than I can. Trafalgar is read as Torafaruga in Japanese so it's his shortened name but has deeper meaning. What I'm trying to say is, it's a pun.
"In Japanese, the first two characters of Law’s surname is tora (トラ) , which is also the Japanese word for tiger. This preserves the animal theme naming of the Warlords, which includes Teach whose family name is Frankish for horse servant. The animal name is further emphasized when Luffy gives him the nickname Torao (トラ男) in the Japanese version, which can be taken as tiger man. When written in different characters, Torao can serve as an actual Japanese name."
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Would make a nice little scenario, burgess learns of mansherrys df and goes after her.
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Leading to a desperate competition consisting of Mansherry trying to heal people faster than Burgess can elbow them into oblivion.
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…but...he won Block A? :ninja:
Doesn't count; Block A was obviously made up of fodder that would be weaklings in East Blue.
