Earth Nation Avatar? Yes? Please?
Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra
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Could start adapting the Kyoshi novel
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If this is going to be their darling, and their future, then yes, I can accept working on post-korra avatars.
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That was a cool video. But what’s with the cat versions of them, were they in the Bowser’s Fury world?
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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I like the choice for the ending.
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Didn't see a thread anywhere for this, please merge if there is here's the latest info on this project.
Daniel Dae Kim has been announced to play Lord Ozai and Jet Wilkinson is one of the directors for the series
And here is our main four Gordon Cormier as Aang, Kiawentiio Tarbell as Katara, Ian Ousley as Sokka, and Dallas Liu as Zuko
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It'll probably get merged with the main ATLA thread soon, since there's nothing else going on with the franchise.
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For anyone interested, made a thread for the upcoming Netflix Live Action
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You should have just posted that in here. Not like the franchise is doing anything else anyway.
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You should have just posted that in here. Not like the franchise is doing anything else anyway.
I didn't know there was a thread here till after the fact lol. The mods can merge it here
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No one even replied so I just merged it myself.
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At least they cast appropriate races this time. I'd prefer it if Sokka and Katara were a little darker skinned but they both have mixed native american backgrounds so whatever. And Sokka's actor has apparently done a fair bit of martial arts doing well in tournaments and stuff, so that's something.
So that's one mis-step bullet dodged the previous outing made, at least.
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I haven't seen Kim's Convenience at all, but I can see Iroh in this guy.
The accent is for the role, he doesn't actually have it that thick.
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Paul Sun-Hyung Lee is a fantastic pick for Iroh, no complaints at all there.Not as familiar with the other two but both certainly look appropriate.
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And we got Daniel Dae Kim as Ozai. Woo!
https://deadline.com/2021/11/daniel-dae-kim-avatar-the-last-airbender-netflix-live-action-series-fire-lord-ozai-1234867510/ -
I hope they keep him in complete shadow for the first two seasons.
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Am still nothing but skeptical, but at least the casting seems to be going right:
https://movieweb.com/avatar-the-last-airbender-the-live-action-netflix-series-adds-more-cast-members/?utm_source=MW-FB-P&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=MW-FB-P&fbclid=IwAR2iRrF5VOpKARK0J5xa-QI6SXds4mdZrs-oMIAeBlmuYTSVz3H-5Rkr0sgAnd dude, George Takei is Koh the Face Stealer?!
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Love the extra Abed-ness of casting Pudi, who in Community slammed the Last Airbender movie.
And casting the voice actor of the Cabbage Merchant to play him in live action is just Chef's kiss
I'm on the same boat as you @Satsuki , absolutely skeptical of them pulling this off. And of course the fact that Bryan and Mike left yet another live action adaption due to "Creative differences".
But so far I'm really happy with the casting.
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I'm honestly not that bothered by Bryan and Mike leaving. They were the idea guys, yes, but the people that made the show work, the directors and showrunners and individual writers and storyboarders, were not them.
Like Aaron Ehasz (co-executive producer) who worked on Mission Hill and Futurama before going to Avatar (and has been on Dragon Prince since) helped make the show work, and he WASN'T on Korra, and that had a noticeable dip in quality.
Notably the first season of Korra was entirely written by Mike and Bryan, and most of the second season as well, including the episodes witht he really poor plot twists with Korra's blatantly evil uncle and the Dark Avatar stuff. Then they added on way more writers and new directors in season 3 and it was a massive improvement.
Would it be a better sign if they were still on board? Sure. Is that inherantly a death sentence? Not so much.
I don't think a show like this can be done well if they try to completely mimic the tone and feel of the original, they HAVE to do something different (Ditto the live action OP) but I have hopes it'll be okay.
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Well it already looks better than the movie, but that's not hard.
Does Sokka still look kinda white, though? I don't know the background of his actor.
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Definitely better looking than the movie so far (not that it's a high bar)
Cautiously optimistic
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@Satsuki said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
Well it already looks better than the movie, but that's not hard.
Does Sokka still look kinda white, though? I don't know the background of his actor.
The actor apparently forged a native american background to get cast.
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It's a totally humorless trailer though, and humor is a huge part of Avatar. I need these characters goofing off and vibing with one another, not just transitioning between set pieces.
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It's a teaser trailer that's only narrated, they're not revealing anything much. If the real trailer doesn't have any then I worry.
@Kaiolino said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
@Satsuki said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
Well it already looks better than the movie, but that's not hard.
Does Sokka still look kinda white, though? I don't know the background of his actor.
The actor apparently forged a native american background to get cast.
Well that fucking sucks. When did that come out? After filming, I guess?
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Official Trailer is out. Release is Feb 22 2024
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Looks promising. Will it be any good? Will it justify its existence by bringing in a new audience?
The action won't be able to match the animated version, and they hopefully do different comedy appropriate to the medium. but really as long as they nail the Zuko and Iroh arc it should be okay.
They got the music right at the very least, they knew to not mess with that.
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The action looked awesome in the trailer, but we’ll see how it holds up in the show.
Think Sokka gave the best cadence for his line delivery. The dry wit’s on point. Feel bad though cause I just learned about his race controversy that came up last year.
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Pass. Call me on the next animated project gets a teaser.
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I didn't hate it. And I want to hug that Appa. That's a good thing to begin with.
Doesn't hurt that these kids are adorable and not as pale as paper:
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Kinda lame given this was a big part of Sokka’s early development, but “toned down” doesn’t mean “not there at all”, so we’ll see if this plays out in the early episodes.
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Yeah, it's one thing to have a prejudice character but if part of their character arc is overcoming that prejudice, then . . .
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Sokka is sexist and mean to Katara in the opening minute or two, nothing in the next two episodes, and then he's sexist to the Kyoshi warriors in episode 4 as a C plot, and then he learns his lesson and stops doing it forever, and it never comes up again. All while the series is loaded with female warrior ass kickers.
Is it really an important part of the character, or any sort of arc, when it's there for just a few minutes total in one early episodes with a really obvious beat you over the head moral?
For it to be an actual arc they'd need him to be sexist and gross more and for a longer time, and that's clearly not the way to do it. They can still have the water bending teacher in the north be sexist.
Sokka can be dismissive and rude in other ways if that's really important and nothing is lost.
EDIT: Yeah I just checked episode 4. 20 second bit at the start where Sokka talks about girls being better at sowing and men better at hunting, 30 seconds where he goes "what men ambushed us? It couldn't have been a bunch of girls" and Katara calls him an idiot. 2 minutes where the warriors beat the snot out of him for being rude, and then after stewing off camera about it, two minutes later he apologizes having completely learned his lesson.
The entire sexist arc is 3 minutes long, before he learns his lesson. In one early episode.
And then they put him in a dress and make jokes about mistaking him for a girl.
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You know, I always thought that Sokka being a little sexist was a great setup for the show having such badass female characters. It served such a nice little contrast, especially since it is the beginning and we are just introduced to the world. It also shows that he isn't the stubborn jerk that we assume he is, seeing how he was able to acknowledge and apologize when he was wrong and for whom he was previously biased against. It was such a short moment but it showed humility in the character.
Eh, good to know that I'm the only one who sees that because now I can attest it to my own delusions of good subtlely writing in the original source.
But then again, I was part of the minority that was thoroughly pissed with how they left out Usopp's entire inner conflict between his cowardice and doing what's right in the OPLA so ultimately eh, who the hell cares.
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@Robby or you know, that played a part in his encouragement of women down the road, and his acceptance of Katara being as strong or stronger than him or the fact that he grew up in a mostly (or was it all) woman society and it would psychologically make sense for him to behave the way he did.
Maybe those 3 minutes shouldn't exist in a vacuum?
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Or he can just... respect women from the getgo?
He starts and stops being sexist after one fight. In the fourth episode. That's not growth or change, that's just him arbitrarily being dumb for three minutes.
The sexism isn't important. The bonding and respect is.
The northern water tribe can still be sexist, Jet can still be an ass, Katara can still face all those things. But Sokka just having a blatant moral of the day slapped onto him always felt too easy, to obvious, too much "this is a show made for kids." Nothing important is lost by not having him go "No way a bunch of GIRLS could have beaten us!"
He can still have some of those traits like "Hunting and protecting is the man's job" or "my fighting style is better" or in that specific case "You only beat us because you surprised us" without also having "women suck at things"... mostly because he ONLY has that attitude for that extremely brief period of exactly one fight.
He can still be proud and a bit of an ass, or even still think it's a woman's job to do the sewing and cooking, but he doesn't need "women are weak" because that's not a big part of his character or the show.
Now if he'd belittled Katara for a whole bunch of episodes and they met the Kyoshi warriors in episode 8 and he sorta of learned the lesson, but he still insisted women doing the sewing and cleaning until, I dunno, Azula kicked everyone's ass in season 2 or Toph beat it out of him... then it'd be an actual arc and growth. And he'd also be really unlikeable and everyone would hate him.
I don't think anyone wants him to be awful for a longer time and make it an actual arc and actual growth. They just want the quick easy humbling 3 minute snippet that's easy and painless that they remember from the third story that they've seen a bunch of times so it feels like it was a major thing for him because its rerun for 20 years.
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Yeah, it is short, but it’s during Sokka’s introduction, establishing the character, so it stands out more. And yes, while not subtle in episode 4, that whole dynamic plays into Sokka and Suki relationship when they meet and as mentioned shows Sokka first sign of not just growth, but the capability to grow, going from wannabe warrior he’s established as to a path towards being the actual leader he becomes.
Bright side is that there’ll likely be new dynamics for the live action in how Sokka/Suki interact and bond for their meeting, or that interplay is replaced by nothing. We’ll have to see.
Adaptations are tricky so I get picking/choosing what to use or not. I’m just hoping this doesn’t flatten out the characterization. Removal’s fine if they’re going a different route with things but it’s missing the point thinking Sokka had bigoted moments that need to be changed instead of noting Sokka went from point A to B. (And not saying you’re saying that Robby, just how the article/interview comes across as)
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As someone who does not love Avatar as much as everyone else seems (only watched the show once), I honestly barely remember any of the Sokka sexism stuff.
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Looks like a "love it or hate it" situation. But at least everyone seems to agree that Zuko rules.
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Final trailer
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Well, the show is up! Not going to watch it until tonight with my wife but it's up.
8 episodes and while the times vary, they're all about an hour each. Despite being only 8 episodes, the runtime is completely comparable to the first season of the animated version. We'll have to see how this goes!
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@Shiebs said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
https://screenrant.com/avatar-the-last-airbender-live-action-first-reactions-divided/
Oh come on, how does one make this article and not make a Great Divide joke!?
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first episode and some thoughts:
Aang and Katara's acting needs some work. I know they are kids and it is to be expected but it still takes me out of things.
The grandmother is a riot, who the hell thought it was appropriate to write that scene the way it unfolded?
Praises goes to the CG for the bending, really good.
Zuko and Sokka were the highlights, good acting.
Iroh will steal every scene from now on, A class actor.
They've changed Aang's reason for leaving the Air tribe. I don't like it. and god will I hate it if his conflict with his role gets toned down further.
There's no reason to change up the sequence of events, it removed the shock value from the original (that the air tribe was in fact, wiped out).
Sokka is funny but not funny enough, definitely not a him problem but the problem with the series trying to set up a GoT tone (which is a really stupid decision), Katara needs to be more abrasive and assertive. She feels different from the source.
Waterbending a water pillar several feet high up in the ground was not episode 1 Katara and is a pro level feat...which she is not at yet. She needs more rage and range....Really good CGI all around.
Solid 7.5 but it could really use more lightheartedness and comedy.
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Stupidly binged the whole show.
Episode 1 had its problems. Think the show’s peak was episodes 2-4 and were genuinely really good episodes. Then 5-8 were back to a lower quality.
Sokka’s actor, Zuko’s actor, and Iroh’s actor were excellent. Aang and Katara’s acting could use improvement. Still not sure if I’d recommend it, should sleep on it to see how I feel later.
Funny enough, I think my favorite thing about the show was Sokka and Suki and how they developed in their episode. Ironic yes, given the worries about the “Sokka sexism” before the show appeared. That said, there’s a lot of plot lines I do want to nitpick, but again, should sleep on it to see how I feel about things. They do a much better job juggling a whole season (and more) into these 8 episodes than I expected, they crammed a lot in there while having the pace be better than expected, for some parts.
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People still complaining about how Sokka's actor is just a white kid who claimed to be part Native American just to get this role. That, or the "tribe" he's from is not recognized by the official Cherokees and so might or might not be legitimate.
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@Md-Martin said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
@Shiebs said in Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra:
https://screenrant.com/avatar-the-last-airbender-live-action-first-reactions-divided/
Oh come on, how does one make this article and not make a Great Divide joke!?
Eh, let's keep scrolling.
