And that comparison was weak too since we found out that Sanji parts his hair because both of his eyebrows move in the same direction. There is a precedent for staying hung up on otherwise small details in this manga, because Oda is hung up on them as well.
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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Doesn't every crew members has clue of joing:
- Luffy was searching for Zoro from he start of the series
- Nami was clearly shown in the cover page
- Ussop was a Yassop of straw hats
- Sanji was clearly shown to join from the very start
- Chopper was hinted to join when he save Luffy Nami and Sanji from drum island
- Robin was seen helping Luffy and shown to help him more than one
- Luffy draw a stupid looking shipwright that looks like Franky
- Brook was hunted by Luffy to join his crew
Now what clue does we have for jinbe?
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Doesn't every crew members has clue of joing:
- Luffy was searching for Zoro from he start of the series
- Nami was clearly shown in the cover page
- Ussop was a Yassop of straw hats
- Sanji was clearly shown to join from the very start
- Chopper was hinted to join when he save Luffy Nami and Sanji from drum island
- Robin was seen helping Luffy and shown to help him more than one
- Luffy draw a stupid looking shipwright that looks like Franky
- Brook was hunted by Luffy to join his crew
Now what clue does we have for jinbe?
This is stupid is so many ways, but I'll go along with it:
- Jinbe has helped Luffy more than once too, so he'll join.
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Doesn't every crew members has clue of joing:
- Luffy was searching for Zoro from he start of the series
- Nami was clearly shown in the cover page
- Ussop was a Yassop of straw hats
- Sanji was clearly shown to join from the very start
- Chopper was hinted to join when he save Luffy Nami and Sanji from drum island
- Robin was seen helping Luffy and shown to help him more than one
- Luffy draw a stupid looking shipwright that looks like Franky
- Brook was hunted by Luffy to join his crew
Now what clue does we have for jinbe?
Been mentioned early on. Promised to look after Luffy, but take of that what you will.
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Him steering the Marine boat from Impel Down to Marineford.
http://www.manga-access.com/manga/O/One_Piece/chapter/549/7
I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's where it originated from.That's the only solid evidence that Jinbe is a helmsman, though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support it. It's basically the only ship-profession that the Strawhat's don't have someone dedicated to and it might be important to have a good one going into the notoriously rough new world. Also, unless I'm mistaken, Fishman Karate lets the user control all water in his/her vicinity, which could make Jinbe an extremely good helmsman if he could control currents and waves and such while steering the ship.
Then again, this is a crew with a swordsman, sniper, archaeologist, and musician, so i wouldn't be surprised if Jinbe winds up being just "underwater fighting specialist". In the One Piece Universe, that is a very useful skill to have.
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"Karate Master" sounds pretty good too.
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What? Of course we're waiting on a story about Jimbe's scar. Its absence in the F/B is notable–or rather it is notable for its absence in the f/b. Were it there at any point, especially after the scenes with FT, it wouldn't be so noteworthy. And since it is noteworthy, there is a chance, yes, that whatever story is associated with it could give more info about why he might want to join, or at the least why he'd have a reason to go along with them. Why act as if this is moronic nonsense?
how did rayleigh get his scar
how did crocodile get his scarwe have only learned two people's scars history. Luffy's and Shanks. actually maybe just shanks, cause luffy's was present time right?
maybe jimbei got his scar when he fought ace. who really cares. does it matter if he got it from ace, got if from blackbeard, got it from his mom, got it from a random piece of coral in the ocean. i don't see how a SCAR matters.
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Been mentioned early on. Promised to look after Luffy, but take of that what you will.
just recently promised to protect shirohoshi and her dream
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That's the only solid evidence that Jinbe is a helmsman, though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support it. It's basically the only ship-profession that the Strawhat's don't have someone dedicated to and it might be important to have a good one going into the notoriously rough new world. Also, unless I'm mistaken, Fishman Karate lets the user control all water in his/her vicinity, which could make Jinbe an extremely good helmsman if he could control currents and waves and such while steering the ship.
Then again, this is a crew with a swordsman, sniper, archaeologist, and musician, so i wouldn't be surprised if Jinbe winds up being just "underwater fighting specialist". In the One Piece Universe, that is a very useful skill to have.
he would have to SHOOT his water attacks at teh water. Being at the helm he would be very limited in his angle of shooting in front of the ship.
also how about we look at the FLASHBACK. is it shown ONCE that jimbei is steering the ship?
AND in this page when it talks about him joining the shichibukai and shows what the OTHERS do, it shows the macro guys leaving together which are together as of TODAY. It shows the sun pirates who joined ARLONG leave with ARLONG. And it shows other fishman STILL with jimbei. So it appears he had a crew when warlord, which would only seem to STILL hold true. why would they abandon him AFTER he left warlord status. They been with the fishman pirates since fisher tiger, why would they all of a sudden leave two years ago?
so before i even consider jimbei a chance i need to know what his crew is doing. he reminds me of franky right now except his franky family is WANTED unlike franky's and he has also been with them for much much longer.
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how did rayleigh get his scar
how did crocodile get his scarwe have only learned two people's scars history. Luffy's and Shanks. actually maybe just shanks, cause luffy's was present time right?
maybe jimbei got his scar when he fought ace. who really cares. does it matter if he got it from ace, got if from blackbeard, got it from his mom, got it from a random piece of coral in the ocean. i don't see how a SCAR matters.
No offence, but can you see the difference between:
-A character officially introduced with a scar whose we never saw without it.
-A character flashback-introduced without a scar, officially introduced with it.
-A character officially introduced with a scar, got it remove during a flashback and left without an explanation.And, by the way, if in One Piece things like a strawhat, a tattoo, an orange tree, a windmill, a cherry tree, a flag, a sword and so on matter, i don't see why a scar can't matter.
just recently promised to protect shirohoshi and her dream
Mhh, are you talking about the seed speech? (that weird seed speech)
Well, you should throw away Mangastream and Mangareader's translations and take Aohige's as your new One Piece translation bible, because they just forgot "our turn". Jinbe wasn't talking about himself, he was talking about him and SHs.he would have to SHOOT his water attacks at teh water. Being at the helm he would be very limited in his angle of shooting in front of the ship.
also how about we look at the FLASHBACK. is it shown ONCE that jimbei is steering the ship?
AND in this page when it talks about him joining the shichibukai and shows what the OTHERS do, it shows the macro guys leaving together which are together as of TODAY. It shows the sun pirates who joined ARLONG leave with ARLONG. And it shows other fishman STILL with jimbei. So it appears he had a crew when warlord, which would only seem to STILL hold true. why would they abandon him AFTER he left warlord status. They been with the fishman pirates since fisher tiger, why would they all of a sudden leave two years ago?
so before i even consider jimbei a chance i need to know what his crew is doing. he reminds me of franky right now except his franky family is WANTED unlike franky's and he has also been with them for much much longer.The arc isn't over yet. I'm pretty sure we'll get the answers we're searching for.
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how did rayleigh get his scar
how did crocodile get his scarwe have only learned two people's scars history. Luffy's and Shanks. actually maybe just shanks, cause luffy's was present time right?
maybe jimbei got his scar when he fought ace. who really cares. does it matter if he got it from ace, got if from blackbeard, got it from his mom, got it from a random piece of coral in the ocean. i don't see how a SCAR matters.
Croc? I myself feel rather certain that we will be learning more about Croc's famous scar, and the hook for that matter, and how they were acquired, at some point in the future, as I think they are most probably related in some way to the secret that Oda/Ivankov teased us with back in ID.
As for Luffy? We know both about his scar under his eye–because it revealed something about him as a character--thus a minor detail was important---and yes, as you pointed out, we know about the present day scar. I feel pretty certain we'll be hearing about Zoro's new battle token--the missing eye and scar--at some point, too.
Rayleigh? LOL Surely you aren't suggesting that a scar on a man with Rayleigh's reputation, known past with the Roger Pirates, and rather rough present--disappearing 6 months at stretch and what not--is all that surprising or noteworthy. I would further argue that he was introduced for the mere purpose of training Luffy, is known to be retired, and his purpose to the story, basically, is about over, barring some time when he may be brought back for a shocking death or for the final battle... More importantly in terms of story building, iirc, Ray was never shown without the scar, and his chances of joining the crew are nil, at best, so any back story beyond knowing he was a Roger Pirate, with all that entails, is moot.
As I mentioned earlier, what makes Jim's scar notable is more that it is absent from the F/B than that it is present now. Again--had it appeared at any point when he was with FT it would have just been ho hum. It did not. Jimbe definitely has some story left to tell, and to me it seems as if that scar may be part of that tale. The fact that he is the best contender for the next nakamate position right now makes it more interesting, for that reason alone. We have come to expect new nakamates to have back stories to support their reasons for needing to go. That is basically all we are missing for Jim at this time. Since most of us feel he is most likely the next nakamate, some sort of backstory seems inevitable, and the fact that there is a huge scar missing from his previous backstory then becomes potentially a part of that story. Oda is a master of hiding clues right in front of us in OP, so its only logical to look for them there, lol.
…just recently promised to protect Shirohoshi and her dream
I know this wasn't directed at me, but since I'm here… Franky was determined to protect his family and the island as well, and we know how that turned out. As has been pointed out a multitude of times in the Shira for nakamate discussions, as a Princess who may well represent her people to the WG at the next reverie in an attempt to promote Fish- & merfolk/human relations and a migration to the surface, Shira hardly needs a wanted man as a traveling companion. No matter what Jimbe may want.
And if I am not mistaken, this is the product of a mistranslation, anyway.
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so what your saying is that rayleigh we can expect to have gotten a scar at some point because he is rayleigh, you know the pirate kings right hand man
yet jimbei being a big name for the sun pirates, and right hand man to fisher tiger and then later captain of the crew who had a bounty of 250 million or whatever it was when he became a warlord, and then however many years he was a warlord fighting pirates and god knows who else, it is not just reasonable to have him get a scar we need to have a flashback in order to explain it.
is that what your saying. for all we know he got his scar fighting Ace.
And no shit we will probably learn where zoro got his scar. we are going to learn what each strawhat did during those two years, and that includes when zoro got his scar. you can't compare the two.
if you want to argue that jimbei is going to join, do so, but please don't resort to arguing he will join due to not seeing where he got a SCAR. its just sad
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LOL Are you deliberately misreading my post, or… well I'm too polite to say what the alternative is.
Let us recap, shall we? The current conversation with you, dear, is about why the scar matters to those of us who think Jim may be the next nakamate. It was mentioned, and you asked why on earth anyone would think mattered, thusly:
maybe jimbei got his scar when he fought ace. who really cares. does it matter if he got it from ace, got if from blackbeard, got it from his mom, got it from a random piece of coral in the ocean. i don't see how a SCAR matters.
If you reread my posts you will see that IN BOTH of them, I have stated that it is because Jim is likely to be the next nakamate, that it is notable his scar is absent from the f/b scenes. This directly answers the question of why it matters.
Poor confused dear, you seem to have got it backwards. Nowhere did I say or even imply that the missing scar was a part of the current arguments in favor of his joining. So just to be sure you can follow this time, dear, let me rephrase. If Jimbe were not a potential new member, there would be nothing notable about his scar, (and I seriously doubt Oda would go to the trouble of not drawing it in in the FBs.) I even pointed that out in my discussion about Rayleigh. To whit:
More importantly in terms of story building, iirc, Ray was never shown without the scar, and his chances of joining the crew are nil, at best, so any back story beyond knowing he was a Roger Pirate, with all that entails, is moot.
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for all we know he got his scar fighting Ace.
Except he already had his scar when they first met. Quit saying that.
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Jimbei as a helmsman sounds so lame but I guess it gives poor chopper more time to be doing something important. The scar doesn't sound like it'll contribute to his joining but it'll be interesting to know if someone important gave it to him. Also I can't possibly see anyone else joining and clearly the princes are too weak and have to stay on fishman island.
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Jimbei as a helmsman sounds so lame but I guess it gives poor chopper more time to be doing something important. The scar doesn't sound like it'll contribute to his joining but it'll be interesting to know if someone important gave it to him. Also I can't possibly see anyone else joining and clearly the princes are too weak and have to stay on fishman island.
How would this be lame? Nami can be the best navigator in the world, if no one can execute her instructions properly her knowledge about weather is for nothing. Also, the crew could use someone who knows a bit about the NW, not only for the crew's sake but also for the readers. There must always be someone who explains the workings of the world of One Piece for us, indirectly (if you know what I mean). Most of the time Nami, Robin and sometimes even Franky do that, but I doubt they can believable fulfill that role in the New World.
People will probably jump on me for posting that picture again, but it simply fits and I can totally see Jinbe taking on the role of the naval expert in the crew, on top of being the experienced "advisor" of the captain.
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How would this be lame? Nami can be the best navigator in the world, if no one can execute her instructions properly her knowledge about weather is for nothing. Also, the crew could use someone who knows a bit about the NW, not only for the crew's sake but also for the readers. There must always be someone who explains the workings of the world of One Piece for us, indirectly (if you know what I mean). Most of the time Nami, Robin and sometimes even Franky do that, but I doubt they can believable fulfill that role in the New World.
People will probably jump on me for posting that picture again, but it simply fits and I can totally see Jinbe taking on the role of the naval expert in the crew, on top of being the experienced "advisor" of the captain.
Everyone can be the best of something except for jimbei. Even if he was the BEST helmsman in the world. who would really care… compared to swordsman, sniper, musician, cook, shipwright, archaeologist(meh), and doctor. I think if jimbei had a different job besides helmsman(because anyone is strong enough to be a helmsman in the crew) then he would seem more important. Also I doubt that just because he was commanding the marine battleship that it would suggest that he's a helmsman :s
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Everyone can be the best of something except for jimbei. Even if he was the BEST helmsman in the world. who would really care… compared to swordsman, sniper, musician, cook, shipwright, archaeologist(meh), and doctor. I think if jimbei had a different job besides helmsman(because anyone is strong enough to be a helmsman in the crew) then he would seem more important. Also I doubt that just because he was commanding the marine battleship that it would suggest that he's a helmsman :s
Its not about being powerful enough to hold the steering wheel XD (well, his bulky stature would sure help), but his knowledge about the sea and its currents. He is someone who would exactly understand when Nami gives him detailed info about what is going to happen next and what to do. I doubt that the New World will leave the Straw Hats room for errors anymore. Errors made by a heart-eyed cook, a swordsmen with zero sense of direction and a doctor who will loose all his strength when hit by a big enough wave. Franky is too important below the deck, after all he controls the docking stations and gadgets of the ship. As for Usopp, Brook, Robin & Luffy - I can't imagine them steering the ship for real, ever.
This is going to be the crew of the freaking pirate king, this position should not always be up for grabs.
And as for him being "the best at something"….
He is an Ex-Shichibukai and the most powerful fishman introduced so far, I don't think he needs to excel at anything anymore. But if you think that "helmsman" doesn't sound cool enough, we can call him the most competent naval expert.
archaeologist(meh)
Everyone worth his salt would lick his fingers after Robins knowledge, see Rayleigh. I go as far and say she is the most valuable crewmember, followed by Nami. Every Straw Hat is an expert and extremely important in its own way, but the two girls are virtually irreplaceable.
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@Cleatus:Anyone is strong enough to be a cook but that didn't stop them from finding one who can kick you into orbit.
lol, good one.
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Everyone can be the best of something except for jimbei. Even if he was the BEST helmsman in the world. who would really care… compared to swordsman, sniper, musician, cook, shipwright, archaeologist(meh), and doctor.
Yes, helmsman isn't exciting like shipwright or cook…I don't see your point here at all since the only interesting one is swordsman and maybe sniper.
I think if jimbei had a different job besides helmsman(because anyone is strong enough to be a helmsman in the crew) then he would seem more important.
Anyone is strong enough to be a cook but that didn't stop them from finding one who can kick you into orbit.
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Yes, helmsman isn't exciting like shipwright or cook…I don't see your point here at all since the only interesting one is swordsman and maybe sniper.
It's not so much about the job itself being more mundane than say, cook or shipwright, rather the issue is how to make helmsman interesting and personalized. Every member of the crew has a position that in some way directly relates to their individual dreams. While it's true that they also are able to contribute more to the crew as a whole, their positions are a reflection of their individual goals and personalities as much as anything else. I don't see Jinbe's dream having anything to do with steering a ship, but who knows maybe that's always been his dream since he was a little kid, despite the fact that he can just swim wherever he wants.
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not sound uninformed or anything but the only time anyone is at the helm is only for extreme circumstances and usually the only strawhats that to take the helm are sanji zoro and usopp and we hardly ever have a seen near the helm of the ship (i havent read the manga or seen past episode 205 so im limited in info)
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Jinbei would be more fit for a Guide/Ambassador type job imo. I know that isn't something anybody would necessarily want to be the best at, but in Jinbei's case it could be more of a 'I promised Ace I'll protect you' and 'I have knowledge of these seas' deal.
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next nakama:
-woman but not human one of the 2 other race Dwarves or Minkmen
-long hair
-if its dwarves then short height, long hair and also long beard
-no DF
-ability "hair posesion"
-shield or/and weapon with df (for dwarves maybe axe or hamer, minkmen multi weapon expert)
-ex-slaves
-champion gladiator
-full body armor and mask that changes expression (like happy,angry,sad,shocked…)
-she never takes off her armor... or maybe she can't
-maybe split personality
-dream; to find her family
When they meet her for the first time they will not know how she look or what gender she is (until she will return to homeland).
She will ask Luffy to take her to her island in New World (something like Koala) where she will finds out that she was sold by her own parents when she was small.WTF is this? Are we now using a nakama creator based on fan fic?
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Jinbei would be more fit for a Guide/Ambassador type job imo. I know that isn't something anybody would necessarily want to be the best at, but in Jinbei's case it could be more of a 'I promised Ace I'll protect you' and 'I have knowledge of these seas' deal.
Sorry, but a little pet peeve: would Luffy really want a guide on his ship? He loves to explore things on his own and hates to be led around by someone else's advice (unless it's Nami, but she's navigator and can kick his ass any day). Although the "naval expert" may be interesting to have, Jinbe otherwise wouldn't have much of a position in the crew. And "helmsman" is a poor choice for someone of his caliber.
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I think you guys are over thinking this Helmsmen thing too much I mean look at Jesus from BB crew ,I doubt his Profession of Helmsmen has any significant meaning in his life aside from Steering BB's Ship. Does Jinbe really NEED to wanna be the best Helmsmen in world to fulfill this position in the crew? Isn't it enough that Oda showed us that he has at least some skill in the field? besides I always suspected that the position of Helmsmen would be less focused on unlike the other jobs on the ship already filled, I always assumed they would just find a big guy with ridiculous strength to fill the role. [[Kinda like Jean Bart]] but in this case it's Jinbe.
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WTF is this? Are we now using a nakama creator based on fan fic?
and what wrong with that… i would like to see some fanfic character from time to time about the last nakama not only whether Jinbe will join or not and if im not mistaken he will not join for another year.
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Everyone can be the best of something except for jimbei. Even if he was the BEST helmsman in the world. who would really care… compared to swordsman, sniper, musician, cook, shipwright, archaeologist(meh), and doctor. I think if jimbei had a different job besides helmsman(because anyone is strong enough to be a helmsman in the crew) then he would seem more important. Also I doubt that just because he was commanding the marine battleship that it would suggest that he's a helmsman :s
Best musician and best cook are subjective and up to personal tastes. And the only one who wants to be the best at anything is Zoro.
One piece Wiki has a list of several crew positions including essential ones.
http://onepiecefanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Crew_PositionsI say they add a barber next ;)
As for Jimbei's dream, there is still time for one to be revealed. Maybe he wants to steer a ship to the end of the grand line where the ocean is the most unpredictable and treacherous.
The issue of anyone being able to be helmsman? Usopp was the one to repair the ship before adding Franky. However, he wasn't quite good enough and they needed a real shipwright. The same could be for the helmsman position in the new world.
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how did rayleigh get his scar
how did crocodile get his scarwe have only learned two people's scars history. Luffy's and Shanks. actually maybe just shanks, cause luffy's was present time right?
Genzo and Koza say "hi".
Chopper also says "Hello, I have a broken horn", Zeff gestures at his leg, Nami casually points at her tatoo, Brook makes some joke about being just bones, and Franky indicates his entire body including his nose.
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Why do we need specific ship positions for each crew member? I keep reading that but never recall seeing it listed as an important point for Luffy in choosing more than a cook or a shipwright. (Even Chopper was chosen because he had 7 forms, and Brook because he was a skeleton.)
LOL Robby–I wanted to do something like that, but I can never bring to mind the proper people to make a long enough post.
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How would this be lame? Nami can be the best navigator in the world, if no one can execute her instructions properly her knowledge about weather is for nothing.
And so far the crew has been following Nami's instructions very well. We've seen that since they entered the Grand Line, so, no need for a helmsman.
Rephrasing what "I survived" said, why the hell does the NN need a crew position? we could have a NN that is of mexican race, is an alcoholic, has a sombrero and constantly start telling stories nobody cares about. That would be awesome and funny. Oh, and his second name would be Juancho. And yes, I'm joking. -
Brook is the perfect example of Oda changing the game of recruitment ,He could of given Brook the same ol Song and dance about wanting to be the best Musician in the World but instead Brooks entire arc was about the tragedy of him being Lonely for all those years and his promise he wants too keep to Laboon.
Maybe Jinbe's dream will have to do with the theme of Racism and equality between races of Arlong Park,Sabody and this arc.
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I initially thought that it made sense for Jinbe to be the helmsman on the ship because it seems like the only important role that the SH's havent fulfilled yet (there are most likely other important roles but helmsman is a pretty obvious one) BUT if a helmsman was so important then surely it would be a position that the SH's would have fulfilled before they got 600 odd chapters into the story.
Therefore it doesnt seem like a position that really matters to them. I understand the argument that the New World may require some badass helmsman skillage that Jinbe may possess but it seems unlikely that the crew would turn up in the new world realise that they need a skilled helmsman and Jinbe would just say "btw i'm awesome at steering!" without Oda ever making a point of him being "awesome at steering" beforehand. If it was such a necessary skill at some point in the story im sure that Oda would incorporate it into the introduction of a character (something he has not done with jinbe except for the one image of him steering a ship).
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I initially thought that it made sense for Jinbe to be the helmsman on the ship because it seems like the only important role that the SH's havent fulfilled yet (there are most likely other important roles but helmsman is a pretty obvious one) BUT if a helmsman was so important then surely it would be a position that the SH's would have fulfilled before they got 600 odd chapters into the story.
They weren't in the new world in the first 600 chapters. Reverse mountain, that one freak storm when Vivi was on board, and the knock up stream have been their only major ocassions where they've needed to steer pefectly, but in the new world? Weather patterns and currents are more extreme there. We've already seen an island made of lightning. They're going to need something else to challenge them for a little while as they are now overpowered monsters, and nature itself being an obstacle is a way to keep things fresh.
Even on the grand line they managed to permanently mess up Merry a ton of times even while following Nami's instructions.
Its besides the point. Jinbe isn't joining to be a helmsman. That's just a thing he could bring in on the side. He's more suited as lifeguard though.
How is it people overlook the job of lifeguard so readily? Especially with four crew members that can't swim?
Zoro and Robin don't fill out a job slot either. Franky is the only time they were specifically looking to fill a job, and even then they didn't just go with the first shipright they could find, or else they would have gotten someone from Foxy's crew once they realized the need was there.
Yes, they NEEDED a navigator and a cook and a doctor, but they didn't go searching for crewmates just to fill those roles. The places they went to next had interesting people that happened to have those skills. I'm fairly sure Luffy didn't even know CHopper was a doctor until after he had joined, and he certainley didn't know Brook was a musician when he asked him.
Luffy also asked Gaimon, Ace, and several random critters from Thriller Bark to join his crew, and none of them would have filled a job, they just made Luffy happy.
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Maybe Jinbe's dream will have to do with the theme of Racism and equality between races of Arlong Park,Sabody and this arc.
Oh, most certainly with the theme of racism, but such a dream is not limited to joining a pirate crew and becoming their "naval expert", or lifeguard, as Robby puts it. In fact, it'd be a dream that began with Otohime and shared by almost the entirety of the residents at FI. If Jinbe doesn't participate in that ongoing process with his fellow fishmen/mermen, it'd seem very peculiar. The Straw Hats, meanwhile, are pirates; such things aren't as much of a concern to them.
Following that thought, even after these battles, there's still so much of FI left to explore, so the end of this arc probably won't come until some extras/aftermaths are screened. Whether the situation changes so that Jinbe does ask to accompany the crew only remains to be seen.
Final thought: Hachi, where's the dojo you were talking about?
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Has anyone thought that maybe Jimbe might be the first crew member to join who doesn't have a 'dream'? He could always join just because he wants to be on the crew. I know it's a great motif so it probably won't happen, but still.
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Has anyone thought that maybe Jimbe might be the first crew member to join who doesn't have a 'dream'? He could always join just because he wants to be on the crew. I know it's a great motif so it probably won't happen, but still.
Well when Robin joined we really didn't know her dream for a little while, so it could be something like that. He might find something he wants to achieve once they reach the New World. But it's very likely that it will have something to do with equality between Fishman and humans.
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Hmm, maybe Jinbei's dream doesn't have to deal with racism directly, but it could be sort of like exploring and learning more about the human world? I know he's been a warlord for a long time, but he might have spent most of that time on Fishman island with little direct contact with humans.
I remember in the Flashback, Jinbei (and Otohime as well) talking about how humans and fishmen know so little about each other, and specifically the whole "fear of the unknown" idea when they were with Koala. Joining the Strawhats would make alot of sense for something like that, as they're going to be seeing and exploring alot of the rest of the world in the months to come. That would be a good place to start improving human-fishman relations.
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If anybody is going to be joining right after FI, its definately going to be Jimbe.
he's had some derp moments, some cool moments he has potential even now even though he is experienced with regards to how old he is and all.
He also made somewhat of a promise to Ace about protecting Luffy and that he would protect him only if he felt like it (which he did) but this may have only applied for the duration of the war.
Jimbe also has the potential to resolve racial issues between humans/fishmen by joining the strawhats (though macro could have done this too since hes in whitebeards crew? but we don't know much about him)
He would also overall be a nice addition to the crew, have a good role to fulfill (helmsman) and come on admit it, if there's a colorspread with the strawhats, try imagining jimbe there, he fits right in!
and weakhoshi is just too weak (and big, and too important of a figure in FI) to leave and join the strawhats…
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Sorry, but a little pet peeve: would Luffy really want a guide on his ship? He loves to explore things on his own and hates to be led around by someone else's advice (unless it's Nami, but she's navigator and can kick his ass any day). Although the "naval expert" may be interesting to have, Jinbe otherwise wouldn't have much of a position in the crew. And "helmsman" is a poor choice for someone of his caliber.
I definitely see your point, but I meant more of a knowledgeable source of the coming sea kinda guide, not really a tour guide which is sorta what like you described. Besides I think anybody that knows Luffy knows that he's going to explore what he wants to explore whether you want to try and hold his hand or not. I agree too that helmsman is a lousy idea for Jinbei, that's why I'm hoping it's something a bit more fitting for him.
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Yes, helmsman isn't exciting like shipwright or cook…I don't see your point here at all since the only interesting one is swordsman and maybe sniper.
Anyone is strong enough to be a cook but that didn't stop them from finding one who can kick you into orbit.
I don't get it you don't need to be that strong just to be a cook and I care about who is the best cook in the world because it most likely means that they have the best food in the world and I love food :D. Also in one piece shipwrights must be super important and well known
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I definitely see your point, but I meant more of a knowledgeable source of the coming sea kinda guide, not really a tour guide which is sorta what like you described. Besides I think anybody that knows Luffy knows that he's going to explore what he wants to explore whether you want to try and hold his hand or not. I agree too that helmsman is a lousy idea for Jinbei, that's why I'm hoping it's something a bit more fitting for him.
Why do you think Helmsman is a lousy position for Jinbei? Its not like its a bum job like cabin boy or janitor.
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i agree its not bad and he seems to like it from my point of view because he steered a lot on the way to marineford
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Well when Robin joined we really didn't know her dream for a little while, so it could be something like that.
She actually said right when she joined that her dream was to find the Rio Poneglyph. It just didn't mean much at the time other than some forgotten history.
Usopp is a better example. He invented a dream on the spot when he realized everyone else had one right before they entered the Grand Line, and now he's stuck with it.
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Jimbei may not need to have a job on the ship. Archeologist is not even an standard ship job. I don't like him to be the dedicated man on the helm. Someone with his abilities should be in reserve in case there are travel emergencies and underwater things.
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and what wrong with that… i would like to see some fanfic character from time to time about the last nakama not only whether Jinbe will join or not and if im not mistaken he will not join for another year.
Yeah that would be totally bring awesomness in here talking about non existent characters…
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Jimbei may not need to have a job on the ship. Archeologist is not even an standard ship job. I don't like him to be the dedicated man on the helm. Someone with his abilities should be in reserve in case there are travel emergencies and underwater things.
So? Why can't he be both the Helmsman and the dedicated reserve/rescue/underwater man? It's already been mentioned that Helmsing a ship is not a highly specialized task like navigating and Jinbe could easily hand it off to someone else if he needs to get in the water personally.
Say they're sailing through tough weather and Luffy gets knocked overboard. Jinbe then shouts to Chopper or someone else "take the helm" and dives in after him.
Also, I highly doubt that he'd be steering the ship in the middle of a fight with other ships, or where underwater combat is required. He could just be the person who does it the 95% of the time that the crew isn't fighting or in danger.
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Jinbei's job would be bait if he was to join which he won't. They've been missing that position since Carue left.
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They still have Chopper for that.
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That's the sinking bait, they still need floating.
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LOL Darkstorm. Harsh.
And Don Choppers job is to be the emergency food supply, fer goodness sakes. Don't you read the manga???!!!?:sideways::silly::devil:
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Half of me says that jimbe's bounty is too damn high and the other half says that there aren't many other skilled and strong fish/mer people that we've met during this arc that aren't freakishly gigantic
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@BC
That`s obviously Chopper Masks purpose.