So that's two down, and only one to go.
Fishman Island's the make or break point.
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First one's the truth.
Second one will only come to pass after Tony actually pays for Civil War.
Is it because he died and magically came back to life? (predictable)
Actually he was just frozen in time…where he was forced to relive pivotal moments of his life. It was really confusing (a homage to a book called Slaughter House 5). It was part of the writer's (Ed Brubaker) plan for the book so its cool.
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LOL. Diehard fans can't step back and see the clear typical patterns.
I liked the last two.
It probably would suck to work for Marvel or DC when other ppl keep calling dibbs on characters. At that point you just create a new superhero.
Tony Starks role in Civil War was very good, he always had that streak of doucheness. Plus they're already making him look like a hero by dealing with Osbourne.
Actually he was just frozen in time…where he was forced to relive pivotal moments of his life. It was really confusing (a homage to a book called Slaughter House 5). It was part of the writer's (Ed Brubaker) plan for the book so its cool.
I swear these DC writers are something else.
On topic: Fishmen Island will decide Jimbei's chances of joining.
Well he is the only character left from the current batch of potential new recruits.
I still say that it will be a brand new character that joins however, specificly from the Fishman Dojo (since thats the only place Oda felt was worth mentioning before they got their).
giant squid fishman for nakama
Does anyone else just really really like Jimbei's character design? I don't think he would work in the crew but he just looks awesome.
Jinbei never had a dedicated fan who would post 'wall of text' based denials on endless new accounts (which instantly were equipped with custom avatars supporting their brand of lunacy). Or did I just miss it in all the Perona fanfics?
Nah you didn't miss a thing, when I lurked the MangaFox forum the only thing anyone ever argued about was whether or not Perona or Hancock were gonna join. It's been said before, the only way somebody will ever go a forum crusade is if the character has breasts. Which is a damn shame because I would like to see what somebody could write up with a character that has some degree of substance (that was directed at Bonney supporters).
@Hyperkinetic:
Jinbei never had a dedicated fan who would post 'wall of text' based denials on endless new accounts (which instantly were equipped with custom avatars supporting their brand of lunacy). Or did I just miss it in all the Perona fanfics?
Bacause they haven't to write the same things over and over again. brennen summarised all of them very well and that's enough. You can agree or disagree but he and the others won't get mad or come up with stupid theories as in Boa's and even more Perona's case
It's been said before, the only way somebody will ever go a forum crusade is if the character has breasts. Which is a damn shame because I would like to see what somebody could write up with a character that has some degree of substance (that was directed at Bonney supporters).
Exactly. Whenever I see someone saying that Caimie/Margaret/Bonney should join I want to gouge my eyes out. I bet if they were male they would have no supporters.
I suppose that in OP the female-to-male ratio is lower. But Amazon Lily more than made up for that, ugh.
On topic: Fishmen Island will decide Jimbei's chances of joining.
I don't think anybody can dispute that.
Well he is the only character left from the current batch of potential new recruits.
I still say that it will be a brand new character that joins however, specificly from the Fishman Dojo (since thats the only place Oda felt was worth mentioning before they got their).
I agree, I don't think it will be Jinbei but another character.
But Fishmen dojo wasn't the only location that was mentioned, so was Mermaid Cafe and the Mermaid Princess.
Exactly. Whenever I see someone saying that Caimie/Margaret/Bonney should join I want to gouge my eyes out.
While I am in no way a supporter, I think Caimie is a shred higher than Bonney and Margaret because she'll probably come back in the story (Hatchan promised to lead the SHs to fishman island, etc) and she does have a stated dream - something all SHs have shown.
I don't think she'll join, nor do I want her to, since the Hatchan-Caimie-Pappug trio is awesome and I'd hate them to break up, but you have to give it that.
Actually I would kinda think having someone be forced on them - like Jinbei giving them his son to be looked after and shown what a real crew can do.
Where he personally does not want to be there but is obligated to fulfill his fathers request and the rest of the SH's are able to function without him so he slowly grows and becomes more open to them.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
Exactly. Whenever I see someone saying that Caimie/Margaret/Bonney should join I want to gouge my eyes out. I bet if they were male they would have no supporters.
I suppose that in OP the female-to-male ratio is lower. But Amazon Lily more than made up for that, ugh.
Actually I can understand why somebody would speculate Margo, Caimi, or whatever girl of the week joining. It's just Bonney that bugs me since she has had almost no interaction with the crew whatsoever.The only interation she did have (with Zoro) was only to cover her own hide.
Actually I would kinda think having someone be forced on them - like Jinbei giving them his son to be looked after and shown what a real crew can do.
I don't think Luffy (who would only take Sanji if he was willing) and Jimbei (who was a slave) would do that.
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Actually I would kinda think having someone be forced on them - like Jinbei giving them his son to be looked after and shown what a real crew can do.
Where he personally does not want to be there but is obligated to fulfill his fathers request and the rest of the SH's are able to function without him so he slowly grows and becomes more open to them.
Jimbei…with a son..?
Hmm, Jimbei does seem like he would make a good father.
It would be pretty interesting if he did have a son.
Jimbei…with a son..?
Hmm, Jimbei does seem like he would make a good father.
It would be pretty interesting if he did have a son.
Yeah it would, but I'm kinda thinking that the joining fishman will be a former slave, so I doubt it'll be Jinbei's son.
Well his son could be a slave, but this is all just fanfic anyway.
I don't think Luffy (who would only take Sanji if he was willing) and Jimbei (who was a slave) would do that.
Not really - remember they had to convince Franky to join. Having him join under duress or at reluctance to fulfill a fathers request is something that has been done throughout time. Thing is if there was a child of Jinbei that didn't want to be there but did so out of family loyalty it would be a great arc watching him slowly go from reluctance to acceptance to being a part of the crew.
Everyone has joined the crew in an emotional way - having someone join this way would be a great way to mix it up a little.
Not really - remember they had to convince Franky to join.
Yeah but they didn't force him, when Franky got on that ship he did so willingly.
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Im pretty sure it will be a brand new character joining but they will have to be very very strong and how many fishmen could be strong enough? Jimbei is apparently the strongest fishman so who will make the cut
Yeah but they didn't force him, when Franky got on that ship he did so willingly.
Correct - I'd say it is still plausable - Jinbei asking Luffy to take his son is different then Luffy forcing someone to come against their will. Especially if Jinbei had talked his son into going in his place so to speak.
Sure he may not want to go but he would feel obliged to and may not put in much effort to help - but on seeing that weither he helped or not the SH's can function without him. The group needs an outcast character someone to be watching them from the outside slowly becoming a SH not because he is forced to but because eventually he wants to.
I know it is all Fanfic so to speak just a theory but all the SH's are so loyal but some of the best arcs are ones where people discover they want to be a SH. Nami and Robin's are both very powerful parts of the Manga, so having someone's joining not just take place in 1-2 arcs but over many - I know they did something similar with Robin but she was trying to protect the crew.
I love how everyone says they want a "Brand new character", but if that character hasn't joined in an arc, but is still in the picture, people want another "Brand new character"
Exactly. Whenever I see someone saying that Caimie/Margaret/Bonney should join I want to gouge my eyes out. I bet if they were male they would have no supporters.
I suppose that in OP the female-to-male ratio is lower. But Amazon Lily more than made up for that, ugh.
I partially agree. However, I think all characters deserve different reactions. I think it is annoying for Camie and Margaret because they just … no.
For the case of Bonney, however, I think the reaction should be the same as when people say Sabo: can't say no because it's clear that we're talking about an arc in quite a distant future. It's just a stupid argument seeing how the series is nowhere close to giving arguments for considering them, it's just random fans wanting it.
I mostly say it because I don't want the Perona hate to spread to characters that haven't even had a chance to develop.
As for Jimbei's son, it is quite the speculation. Considering how much Jimbei was counting on dying the whole prison and war arcs, him having a son would require more explanations than I care about.
The more and more discussion I read the more I hope we have another arc with no new crewmembers.
We already had Saobody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down and Marine Ford. The Straw Hats Return arc could be another one depending on how long it lasts.
We already had Saobody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down and Marine Ford. The Straw Hats Return arc could be another one depending on how long it lasts.
I meant an arc with stawhat interaction … Sabaody was quite short, and the other three were luffy fests. I think the current strawhats need real interactions again, group fights, etc., and especially now that they've had two years of separate training they all deserve breathing space so we can get back to knowing them again.
Given that, I think delaying the new member much more is not a bad thing.
I meant an arc with stawhat interaction … Sabaody was quite short, and the other three were luffy fests. I think the current strawhats need real interactions again, group fights, etc., and especially now that they've had two years of separate training they all deserve breathing space so we can get back to knowing them again.
Given that, I think delaying the new member much more is not a bad thing.
While I agree, and I do think the SHs should have some time together. I was actually kinda upset that Brook joined right after Franky did. I'm hoping that Saobody2 turns into that at least to a degree.
While I agree, and I do think the SHs should have some time together. I was actually kinda upset that Brook joined right after Franky did. I'm hoping that Saobody2 turns into that at least to a degree.
I'm hoping for Sabaody2 to end quickly so we can go back to new adventures.
As for Brook, I just assumed that Oda wanted to bring him in before the New World and that was the best time to do so. Didn't mind that much myself since he was such a cool character from the beginning and as far as I knew Franky was pretty much a SH during Enies Lobby since he fought against CP9 with them. He got enough interactions with them both within battle and outside of it.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love Brook, but I would have liked to see more of Franky, even if it was just a mini arc before Brook joined.
Well, I guess you could say the same could happen in Gyojin/Ningyo Island (From now on it's GyoGyo island) with a fishman. Then again, that seems to have happened with any new strawhat with the exception of Robin, but Robin seems to be an exception to pretty much everything.
As for Jimbei's son, it is quite the speculation. Considering how much Jimbei was counting on dying the whole prison and war arcs, him having a son would require more explanations than I care about.
The more and more discussion I read the more I hope we have another arc with no new crewmembers.
Oh I know it'd need a ton of explination - but you can not deny it would be a curve ball.
I've always been a bit confused about this thread. Was it mentioned by Oda that there would be 2 more crew members added before the end?
I've always been a bit confused about this thread. Was it mentioned by Oda that there would be 2 more crew members added before the end?
Luffy stated he wanted ten guys excluding himself. So we're expecting two more nakamas
did he specifically say excluding himself, though?
"I want ten guys at least" That's kind of implied.
Luffy stated he wanted ten guys excluding himself. So we're expecting two more nakamas
He said he wanted ten guys before entering the grand line, yet he entered with five, so I do not this applies at all I suspect they will stop getting new members after the first half of the NW then just focus on getting strong enough to fight BB and the (other?) yonkou
Well Brook's joining chapter was called ''The Eighth'', continuing the pattern that started way back with Zoro's ''The First'', so I think it's a safe bet that we'll get two more Straw Hats before the series is over.
All the chapters titles giving new members their numbers also exclude Luffy if the quote isn't convincing enough for people.
He said he wanted ten guys before entering the grand line, yet he entered with five, so I do not this applies at all I suspect they will stop getting new members after the first half of the NW then just focus on getting strong enough to fight BB and the (other?) yonkou
Well crossword already answered but he meant from there till their last adventure together a.k.a him becoming pirate king
Well crossword already answered but he meant from there till their last adventure together a.k.a him becoming pirate king
I don't mind if they only have two more, I just hope they are both male, two females out of 11 is already a huge ratio for a pirate crew, I mean the wb pirates' ratio was like 1 and a crossdresser out of of 4,000. I am hoping for a fishman and an unusually small giant to counter the unusually huge giant that is sanjuan wolf. Well either a giant or a huge okama that'll show all the people who want everyone with boobs in the crew.
Having 10 more years of One Piece with no one joining will be wierd
I don't mind if they only have two more, I just hope they are both male, two females out of 11 is already a huge ratio for a pirate crew, I mean the wb pirates' ratio was like 1 and a crossdresser out of of 4,000. I am hoping for a fishman and an unusually small giant to counter the unusually huge giant that is sanjuan wolf. Well either a giant or a huge okama that'll show all the people who want everyone with boobs in the crew.
Um, Kuja pirates? I don't think the ratio can get higher than that.
Also, I find it offensive that you assume wanting women in the crew is reducible to wanting boobs in the crew. Women are more than just breasts, you know.
I don't mind if they only have two more, I just hope they are both male, two females out of 11 is already a huge ratio for a pirate crew, I mean the wb pirates' ratio was like 1 and a crossdresser out of of 4,000.
A. Whitebeard's crew has 1600 members
B. We haven't seen every member of his crew
C. There's more than one female, all of his nurses that we saw were female
D. Since when have the Strawhats followed the norm? Them having an abnormally high Female:Male ratio isn't a problem.
Also, I find it offensive that you assume wanting women in the crew is reducible to wanting boobs in the crew. Women are more than just breasts, you know.
I was going to make a response like this aswell, but I believe he was referring to all the Perona and other dumb idea supporters.
I think a fishman will join, but not at FI. I think we will hear about a somewhat "legendary fishman" that sailed off as the first mate of a great pirate crew in the new world, and later they will meet this fishman who will be in a somewhat similar situation as Sanji (from Baratie Arc) and Mihawk (from East Blue) just the sailing around on their own part. Where the captain may be dieing or sick or left he their crew because they disagreed with the captains evil decisions.
Having a Fishman join straight out of FI, doesn't seem good idea and this is like a compromise sort of. It would be a little to obvious, and the fishmen on FI are not going to be strong enough most likely as Usopp and Nami are pretty strong now, and a first mate of a good NW crew, will put him in the middle/lower middle or so in terms of power.
This could happen in a few ways where maybe they meet the crew first and we anticipate the possible new member even more or maybe they meet him and hear the backstory.
I think
Well Brook's joining chapter was called ''The Eighth'', continuing the pattern that started way back with Zoro's ''The First'', so I think it's a safe bet that we'll get two more Straw Hats before the series is over.
Because of this I have always thought there would be eleven total myself, but recently I've started thinking otherwise. I don't know if anyone else has noticed it but I think there may be a double meaning to the gag Oda has been playing w/ Zoro since the reunion at SA.
The fact that Zoro calls himself the first and Luffy is the ninth makes me think this could be Oda's subtle little way of telling us that Luffy is actually included in the overall ten nakama. Also the fact that Luffy just learned haki and did his training around AL makes me think the idea of him being number 9 (kuja) makes more and more sense.
As far as I was concerned the fact that 9 was associated with AL was one of the only reasons Hancock seemed a slightly legitimate candidate for nakama despite the whole love gag. The idea that Luffy can now take that mantle is interesting to me.
LOL.
So Luffy is being counted as the 9th cuz he came last and Zoro continued on with his pointless labeling of who came back and because of that there'll be no more members? And again how would it make any sense that Oda is subtly telling us this when the captain formed the dam crew yet he's the 9th?
LMAO @ Kuja = 9 being a legitimate reason Hancock was a candidate.
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LOL.
So Luffy is being counted as the 9th cuz he came last and Zoro continued on with his pointless labeling of who came back and because of that there'll be no more members? And again how would it make any sense that Oda is subtly telling us this when the captain formed the dam crew yet he's the 9th?
LMAO @ Kuja = 9 being a legitimate reason Hancock was a candidate.
First off I said slightly legitimate for a reason, but the fact that she showed up and was closely associated with the number 9 just as the next crewmate would have been number 9 was an interesting point, despite having little weight.
More to the point… lol at your inability to count to 10. If Luffy is number 9 that means there is one more crewmember yet to join dumbass.
It's not legitimate at all. It's something you raise after you already have legitimate support to the theory of her joining. If that slightly made her a legitimate candidate I guess Perona was too.
Your post was so stupid it affected me to the point where I couldn't get past Luffy counting as the 9th so forgetting one more could still join slipped my mind. The nerve of you to call me a dumbass when you stupified anyone who read your post.
Stop over analyzing and incorrectly interpreting meaningless gags in the manga to fit some bullshit thought that came to you.
More to the point… lol at you're inability to count to 10. If Luffy is number 9 that means there is one more crewmember yet to join dumbass.
More to the point… why would Luffy be the 9th member of the crew when he's the one who started it?
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More to the point… why would Luffy be the 9th member of the crew when he's the one who started it?
I think Oda should have titled this chapter "The Ninth" and effectively trolled everyone.
especially now that they've had two years of separate training they all deserve breathing space so we can get back to knowing them again.
Given that, I think delaying the new member much more is not a bad thing.
I think it's quite the opposite.
IMO Enies Lobby gave us much more interaction, insight and development of the SHs, than Skypiea and Davy Back Fight combined.
(as well as 3 members joining/rejoining the SHs)
So what we need is another hectic, complex, chasing arc like Water7+Enies Lobby, and the next 15 chapters or so should be enough for us to relax and enjoy the simple pirate life, before things get serious again, just like with Skypiea and Water7.
Also imo there is no way, that the future Pirate King can cross the Red Line and continue through the New World, without first paying a visit to Mariejois and being part of a major ruckus there. (just like with Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford)
And it seems obvious to me, that we will get a repeat of the Fisher Tiger incident, only on a much bigger scale.
That could set things up very nicely for the chase through the New World, introduce Luffy to his farther finally, give plenty of room for insight and development of the new SHs, and find us a few new awesome Nakama. (maybe Bonney and the son of Fisher Tiger)
