Exceptionally crafted and executed put-downs. They won´t be enough.
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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@Perona:
Perona is a teenage girl who spent 10 years on TB. She was undefeated until Usopp. Perona has been fighting GL pirates since she was a child.
That's a fact whether you like it or not, fruitcake.That's a far shot from "being a powerful fighter". She has absolutely no fighting ability, no courage and no will to fight. She relied on incapacitating enemies with her power from afar and using zombie servants to capture them.
FACT: Without the zombies, she was pretty much nothing. She could do little more than incapacitate Luffy & the others for a few instants.
FACT: The first guy she met that was immune to her power kicked her ass without even needing to hurt her.
FACT: She was a coward that fainted from the idea of being hurt.
FACT: She ran away at the first sign of true danger, without caring for her companions.
FACT: She was not a "powerful fighter".
Perona was seen in the manga reading the newspaper and literally spell out the message for the readers. Another fact whether you like it or not, fruitcake.
FACT: Perona was seen being told by Zoro what the message meant. She didn't "deciphered" it and she did not spell it out for the readers. Zoro did both of those things. Perona was just the excuse so that he could tell the readers what the message was about.
Perona is going to spend 2 years in the opposite environment she grew up in. Unless you have never read a story in your entire life, this means change. Another fact whether you like it or not, fruitcake.
Does it? So far she's pretty much the same, and unlike all of the Strawhats, there was no decision from her of changing or growing up. What happens with her from now on is up in the air.
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@Perona:
(how does a 7 year old end up on Moria's ship ?)
Remember this girl:
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And lol at Perona being a powerful fighter.
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@Gol:
LOL at calling out the mods. I just couldn't resist not viewing your posts. They're so entertaining. I'm pretty sure that AGOG and Super Connard are the same person and all these accounts popping out of nowhere are made by one person only. That's a bit sad. Just sad. Too bad for you that Perona won't be joining. Too fucking bad. Too motherfucking bad. Good luck with your life though!
This must be the worst case of dissociative identity disorder. Suspicious!
You may not have noticed it yourself. But.. You could also be AGOG! -
For all we know, the quote could be referring to the former enemies that teamed up with Luffy in Impel Down.
There is no evidence of that (her being around the same age as the younger Straw Hats, I mean).
So being able to incapacitate the captain is a requirement to join now?
Yet, despite this experience, she abandons the crew when she herself is in danger.
I've read 304; there wasn't any foreshadowing of a lookout to be found beyond Usopp looking out of binoculars and Robin looking for the next island from the crow's nest, which literally anyone on the crew could do.
Nami and Robin weren't willing and had ulterior motives, respectively.
So was the Pacifista from Shabondy.
She didn't decipher anything; she had it explained to her so that the audience could get an explanation.
Big deal. Wanting her clothes back is a terrible reason to join the crew, especially when it's the only reason.
Even though Zoro would have left on his own if the humandrills hadn't showed up, had a boat and the Biblicard, and neither him or Perona seemed to care that Zoro was leaving with nothing but the Biblicard to guide him.
One word: Moria. He's still alive, which leaves him open as an option.
AHAHAHA no. All she's done is whine for food (food which would be nigh-impossible to get on a deserted island) and complain.
So having absolutely nothing for a backstory is a reason for why someone can join the crew now? Quick! Someone let Tonjit know! Or Conis!
Along with, at least, half of the supporting cast.
Those former enemies are Croc heading into the NW as we speak and captain of his own crew
Bon chan = dead.
Buggy, captain of his own crew.
Mr 3, with Buggy.
As for Jimbei and Hamock the whore, it's been explained before! A shichibukai will never join. They are are far too reknown, exeprienced, feared and powerful already and would still overshadow and stunt the growth of every single member except maybe those of the so called monster trio even after the time skip.
And unlike Robin their reputation and fame is entirely justified and did not come about as the result of marine propaganda.
! People here mistake the character devolopment Oda has given the Warlords Jiimbei and Hancock for something other than what it is.
! Unlike other warlords Jimbei and Hancock are Luffy's allies, thus their character devoplments are backstories are in keeping with those of good guys. And that's where people fall into an easy trap.
Just because they're being developed as important good guys is no hint that they're gonna join. They're being developed at length because they are Warlords. It just so happens that unlike the others they are good guys.
! Warlords like Croc, Moria, Dofla, Mihawk, BB and Kuma are enemies or much more ambiguous allies. Since they are antagonists their backstories and character developments are being handled differently than Hancock's and Jimbei's.
Oda is still keeping their backstories in store for the New World.
Hancok's backstories have already been dealt with. She's no more than Luffy's groupie now. She's been relegated to comic relief. Her character is pretty much done in the story.
And Jimbei's backstory will be dealt with in FI before the NW.
! By the beginning of the New World Hancock's and Jimbei's characters will merely be side character that the crew left behind. Although, like Croc has before them, they may appear later in the story as temporary allies.
Of those former bosses only Perona remains in the main story.There is evidence of Perona's age. In chapter 468 there's a panel from 10
years go where Perona is clutching a small Kumacy. She has the appearance of a little girl. She's around the same age of her rival Usopp.Being able to take down a 300million rookie is a proof that she is powerful. Even Robin notices that whoever controls these ghosts is a very dangerous enemy.
Her abandoning the crew has already been explained. Not of out of cowardice.
! That's only valid if you put Moria's crew on the same level as Luffy's crew.
! Perona joined Moria's crew for distraction. She's not willing to risk her life for Moria and she shouldn't. Moria is an evil grave digging psychopath who relies on zombies to reach his goal and anyone who's willing to die for someone like that will never become a strawhat.
! She's not a nakama of Moria's, more like an associate or an employee. Moria doesn't have nakamas. he used to, though and they were all slaughtered by Kaido. Since then he's been relying on zombies and associates.
! The strawhats joined because they had nowhere else to go/were saved by Luffy/have a dream/wanna help Luffy become Pirate King etc… all noble reasons.
Thus they have forged a true bond of friendship and trust between them.
The strahwat crew cannot in good conscience be compared to Moria's crew.
Luffy relies on the strength and devotion of his true friends toward him and his friends rely on his strength and his devotion toward them.
Moria relies on disposable zombies with little to no regard for his 3 associates. Has Moria even mentioned Perona since the end of TB ? No.In 304 Robin who acts as a temporary lookout after Usopp (clearly underlining that the lookout position hasn not been filled yet) screws ups and fails to tell the crew about an island she has seen. A mistake that in the NW could cost them dearly. Besides Usopp is the sharpshooter of the crew. Before Franky joined he was who repaired the ship. Now it's Franky.
Nami and Robin ran to save their skin. They didn't feel loyal enough to their boss to risk their lives.
Perona ran to save her skin. She didn't feel loyal enough to her boss to risk her life.
Similar situation. Similar doesn't mean exactly word for world panel for panel.The Pacifista was sent flying. That's only one thing he has going for him. Many characters have one or 2 things going for them. Perona has the most out of anyone. The Pacifista is thus completely irrelevant.
Perona literally spelled out Luffy's message to the reader and while reading the newspaper Zoro explained the message to her on screen. That sets her apart from Herackles, Ivankov, weather guy and the other teacher guys who still don't know what the message is and if they get to someday it will happen off panel. Perona as far as the message is concerned is right now on the same level as the strawhats.
Perona does have all of her belongings on the Strawhat's ship. You may not consider that a valid pretext(among many) for her someday to find herself on that ship again.. But we do. Your opinion against ours.
Yeah Zoro would have left but didn't. Zoro is not a real person. Oda dictates what Zoro does. Oda chose not to have Zoro leave. He chose to have Zoro stay for 2 years on an island with Perona. Deal with it.
Moria is still alive. Perona thinks he's dead. If Perona wants to see Moria again after learning of his survival, she'll have to go into the NW where Moria will be sure to go. Guess who else is going to the NW ?
Perona, being her spoiled brat self, asked for cocao because she was sad. And yeah she complained but still did what she had to do. That's part of her personality. And it always will be.
Perona does have a backstory. You don't end up on Moria's ship at 6 or 7 years old if you don't. That's obvious. Going from there Oda has complete creative freedom. It could involve the whole Moria Kaidou story for instance. Just an example.
I'm sorry but only a a very select few members of the cast can boast about having as elaborate mannerisms, quirks, sudden mood swings and overall, comedic value, let alone a very complex DF, as Perona. Maybe Buggy.
Too bad for you that Perona won't be joining. Too fucking bad. Too motherfucking bad. Good luck with your life though!
3 weeks time, fruitcake.
3 weeks time.hat's a far shot from "being a powerful fighter". She has absolutely no fighting ability, no courage and no will to fight. She relied on incapacitating enemies with her power from afar and using zombie servants to capture them.
FACT: Without the zombies, she was pretty much nothing. She could do little more than incapacitate Luffy & the others for a few instants.
FACT: The first guy she met that was immune to her power kicked her ass without even needing to hurt her.
FACT: She was a coward that fainted from the idea of being hurt.
FACT: She ran away at the first sign of true danger, without caring for her companions.
FACT: She was not a "powerful fighter".
You can argue about her fighting spirit if you like. But to claim she has no fighting ability is absolutely preposterous.
She captured the entire strawhat crew except for Usopp due to a comedic match up.
She has her negative hollow, her explosive ghosts and her astral projection to boot which makes it impossible to fight her if you don't know her weakness.
I'm sorry but it is said in the fucking manga that Perona has never been defeated in TB. She has fought tons of GL pirates and never lost. That is a fact. So when you say she has no fighting abilities you sound I'm sorry but like some kind of retard. She has so much confidence in her abilities she was convinced she could take on Kuma.
Already refuted the whole courage thing. I have alo refuted the run away thing.Of course she fainted from the idea of being smashed with a 10t mallet. If Nami is hit at full force with a 10 ton mallet she dies too you know.
It was a comedic fight anyway.
I love how for the anti Perona people Perona has to be absolutely invulnerable and flawless for her to have a shot at being a strawhat.She's a spoiled kid in TB. She'll be much less spoiled young woman aftter 2 years of toiling away on her own. You can't even get that ?
And Perona literally spelled the message out in the manga. There's a panel of her saying 3D 2Y, which we were only speculating until then that this was what the message was saying.
And Jimbei, Rayleigh and Hamock the whore were part of the creative process behind the message so they obviously can't be included with the rest of the strawhats and Perona who had to anxiously wait for a message and then decipher it.Go theorize about some AL rescue arc or something, why don't you ?
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Bad arguments against bad arguments.
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As much as I hate to admit it I dont think either Boa or Perona will be next crewmembers. My guess is that they will be allies for luffy for the future incase a war breaks out ?
Im hoping that the new crewmember will be from F.I, as It will help the straw hats in a variety of ways especially with them having DF users on board.
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Perona can fight, sure. I find her devil fruit rather amusing. However, it's her ability that's one the reasons she can't be a SH. It has extremely little potential to make a fight interesting. Her enemies will either get struck by the negative ghosts and down or dodge it and own her in one move, like Kuma. Usopp is the exception among exceptions who can get struck by it and continue to fight, which made her have to use explosive ghosts. Consider how Usopp is the weakest Sh and the only negative one, it's extremely hard to create a suitable and interesting opponent for her.
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Hancok the WHORE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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@TiT:
This must be the worst case of dissociative identity disorder. Suspicious!
You may not have noticed it yourself. But.. You could also be AGOG!My worst fears have been realized.
AGOG is multiplying asexually.
On-Topic: I've said it before, others have said it before, and I'll say it again:
Perona was a tool so Oda could tell the reader what the message was.
Perona isn't strong, and without her power, she wouldn't have even slowed the Strawhats down.
She never got hurt, but she was still defeated by the weakest strawhat.
She is selfish. She wanted slaves, not friends.
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perona is already a main character. only those who chose to stay blinded by their hatred can deny it.
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perona is already a main character. only those who chose to stay blinded by their hatred can deny it.
Welcome to my ignore list.
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All you guys playing deaf is getting annoying.
We all know those argument pro-Perona, they're always the same and they don't make any sense for us.
Stop posting more of the same and then getting all heartbroken because the treatment you're receiving. You're acting like spoiled brats, just like your muse. -
However, we also know the anti-Arguments, so if BOTH sides could just stop posting, we could have a sensible discussion about other candidates again…
Edit: Ok, I just realized how stupid that sounded.
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they don't make any sense for us.
You have really hit the nail on the head, here.
The AP forum, or at least the self proclaimed experts here who have persuaded themselves after much undeserved patting on the back that they're the only ones in the world able to glean something from a comic book aimed at children, out of some past childish feud with AGOG has staked its pride over the issue of Perona joining.
So naturally any points the Perona supporters make, however good they may be and they are some very good ones (even though you'll deny it of course) are met with nothing but scorn and ridicule by the so called experts. And the sheeple too afraid to stand out and speak their mind lest they be ostracized, follow suit. But as in life not everybody wants be a sheep and toe the line.
One Piece is a manga aimed at kids. Not rocket science. There is ample room for interpretation especially when dealing with future events and speculation. That should be a given;
Well thought out opinions, and some Perona supporters do back up their opinions with well thought arguments and research (even though of course you'll deny it) is not superior or inferior to another well thought out opinion until proven otherwise in the manga by Oda.
Let's be honest, 99% of the anti Perona people here are not behaving themselves fairly nor honestly when they argue with a Perona fan.
Calling people retards and focusing on one detail of their enemies (for we are treated as such on this forum) argumentation, ignoring their major points in an attempt to destroy their enemies instead of debating normally and maturely(that is sticking to your guns but conceding that your intelligent opponent may have some good points as well) is pretty much the gist of what's going on on this forum.Oda is the only one who ultimately decides which opinion is the valid one. Not the people here. Never the people here. The majority especially one that is mostly the result of bullying, has been wrong before and will be wrong again.
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! @Perona:
! > Those former enemies are Croc heading into the NW as we speak and captain of his own crew
Bon chan = dead.
Buggy, captain of his own crew.
Mr 3, with Buggy.
As for Jimbei and Hamock the whore, it's been explained before! A shichibukai will never join. They are are far too reknown, exeprienced, feared and powerful already and would still overshadow and stunt the growth of every single member except maybe those of the so called monster trio even after the time skip.
And unlike Robin their reputation and fame is entirely justified and did not come about as the result of marine propaganda.
! People here mistake the character devolopment Oda has given the Warlords Jiimbei and Hancock for something other than what it is.
! Unlike other warlords Jimbei and Hancock are Luffy's allies, thus their character devoplments are backstories are in keeping with those of good guys. And that's where people fall into an easy trap.
Just because they're being developed as important good guys is no hint that they're gonna join. They're being developed at length because they are Warlords. It just so happens that unlike the others they are good guys.
! Warlords like Croc, Moria, Dofla, Mihawk, BB and Kuma are enemies or much more ambiguous allies. Since they are antagonists their backstories and character developments are being handled differently than Hancock's and Jimbei's.
Oda is still keeping their backstories in store for the New World.
Hancok's backstories have already been dealt with. She's no more than Luffy's groupie now. She's been relegated to comic relief. Her character is pretty much done in the story.
And Jimbei's backstory will be dealt with in FI before the NW.
! By the beginning of the New World Hancock's and Jimbei's characters will merely be side character that the crew left behind. Although, like Croc has before them, they may appear later in the story as temporary allies.
Of those former bosses only Perona remains in the main story.There is evidence of Perona's age. In chapter 468 there's a panel from 10
years go where Perona is clutching a small Kumacy. She has the appearance of a little girl. She's around the same age of her rival Usopp.Being able to take down a 300million rookie is a proof that she is powerful. Even Robin notices that whoever controls these ghosts is a very dangerous enemy.
Her abandoning the crew has already been explained. Not of out of cowardice.
! That's only valid if you put Moria's crew on the same level as Luffy's crew.
! Perona joined Moria's crew for distraction. She's not willing to risk her life for Moria and she shouldn't. Moria is an evil grave digging psychopath who relies on zombies to reach his goal and anyone who's willing to die for someone like that will never become a strawhat.
! She's not a nakama of Moria's, more like an associate or an employee. Moria doesn't have nakamas. he used to, though and they were all slaughtered by Kaido. Since then he's been relying on zombies and associates.
! The strawhats joined because they had nowhere else to go/were saved by Luffy/have a dream/wanna help Luffy become Pirate King etc… all noble reasons.
Thus they have forged a true bond of friendship and trust between them.
The strahwat crew cannot in good conscience be compared to Moria's crew.
Luffy relies on the strength and devotion of his true friends toward him and his friends rely on his strength and his devotion toward them.
Moria relies on disposable zombies with little to no regard for his 3 associates. Has Moria even mentioned Perona since the end of TB ? No.In 304 Robin who acts as a temporary lookout after Usopp (clearly underlining that the lookout position hasn not been filled yet) screws ups and fails to tell the crew about an island she has seen. A mistake that in the NW could cost them dearly. Besides Usopp is the sharpshooter of the crew. Before Franky joined he was who repaired the ship. Now it's Franky.
Nami and Robin ran to save their skin. They didn't feel loyal enough to their boss to risk their lives.
Perona ran to save her skin. She didn't feel loyal enough to her boss to risk her life.
Similar situation. Similar doesn't mean exactly word for world panel for panel.The Pacifista was sent flying. That's only one thing he has going for him. Many characters have one or 2 things going for them. Perona has the most out of anyone. The Pacifista is thus completely irrelevant.
Perona literally spelled out Luffy's message to the reader and while reading the newspaper Zoro explained the message to her on screen. That sets her apart from Herackles, Ivankov, weather guy and the other teacher guys who still don't know what the message is and if they get to someday it will happen off panel. Perona as far as the message is concerned is right now on the same level as the strawhats.
Perona does have all of her belongings on the Strawhat's ship. You may not consider that a valid pretext(among many) for her someday to find herself on that ship again.. But we do. Your opinion against ours.
Yeah Zoro would have left but didn't. Zoro is not a real person. Oda dictates what Zoro does. Oda chose not to have Zoro leave. He chose to have Zoro stay for 2 years on an island with Perona. Deal with it.
Moria is still alive. Perona thinks he's dead. If Perona wants to see Moria again after learning of his survival, she'll have to go into the NW where Moria will be sure to go. Guess who else is going to the NW ?
Perona, being her spoiled brat self, asked for cocao because she was sad. And yeah she complained but still did what she had to do. That's part of her personality. And it always will be.
Perona does have a backstory. You don't end up on Moria's ship at 6 or 7 years old if you don't. That's obvious. Going from there Oda has complete creative freedom. It could involve the whole Moria Kaidou story for instance. Just an example.
I'm sorry but only a a very select few members of the cast can boast about having as elaborate mannerisms, quirks, sudden mood swings and overall, comedic value, let alone a very complex DF, as Perona.
3 weeks time, fruitcake.
3 weeks time.You can argue about her fighting spirit if you like. But to claim she has no fighting ability is absolutely preposterous.
She captured the entire strawhat crew except for Usopp due to a comedic match up.
She has her negative hollow, her explosive ghosts and her astral projection to boot which makes it impossible to fight her if you don't know her weakness.
I'm sorry but it is said in the fucking manga that Perona has never been defeated in TB. She has fought tons of GL pirates and never lost. That is a fact. So when you say she has no fighting abilities you sound I'm sorry but like some kind of retard. She has so much confidence in her abilities she was convinced she could take on Kuma.
Already refuted the whole courage thing. I have alo refuted the run away thing.Of course she fainted from the idea of being smashed with a 10t mallet. If Nami is hit at full force with a 10 ton mallet she dies too you know.
It was a comedic fight anyway.
I love how for the anti Perona people Perona has to be absolutely invulnerable and flawless for her to have a shot at being a strawhat.She's a spoiled kid in TB. She'll be much less spoiled young woman aftter 2 years of toiling away on her own. You can't even get that ?
And Perona literally spelled the message out in the manga. There's a panel of her saying 3D 2Y, which we were only speculating until then that this was what the message was saying.
And Jimbei, Rayleigh and Hamock the whore were part of the creative process behind the message so they obviously can't be included with the rest of the strawhats and Perona who had to anxiously wait for a message and then decipher it.Go theorize about some AL rescue arc or something, why don't you ?
I don't care much for Perona joining but I do agree with this when it comes to the arguement
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Have you ever thought you may be suffering from some kind of delusion of grandeur?
I'm serious… really. It's worrying.
Edit: that's to Perona sama, not the guy above me.
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Have you ever thought you may be suffering from some kind of delusion of grandeur?
I'm serious… really. It's worrying.
Edit: that's to Perona sama, not the guy above me.
You are only reinforcing my point.
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I think you're giving to much credit to you so-called "argumentation".
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@Perona:
horohorohoro
Do you have some of that bullcrap that can maybe convince us why a petty loner, comparatively uncharismatic character that would rather have slaves than companions, loves dark and dreary places, has no interest for adventure and would rather settle down and lounge, is a starting template for a character that can eventually fit into the Strawhats in 2 years time?
You're saying that you believe that she could fit in with a crew that loves sunny adventures in a boat that does not look like a dark castle, where every crewmember shares a strong bond with the captain, and they don´t care only about themselves?
The only one that can ask someone to join is Luffy. He will not be asking Perona to join, ever. The only reason Perona would ever want to travel with the Strawhats in the first place is if she falls in love with Zoro, and that is the real unspoken reason that you fanficfreaks want her to join in the first place.
You may state hundreds of stupid reasons. The only one that matters is that her character does not fit with the Strawhat's profile. Period. Justify her in any way that you want, but no Strawhat, regardless of whatever harsh or tragic past they had, has become a bad person at heart. In deed, that is debatable, but at heart they all desire friends and companionship, the most essential of the Strawhats' characteristics. And nothing on the island she is currently in, except her admiration or possible infatuation with Zoro, could ever show her the error of her ways and make her desire companionship or comraderie. To witness and value friendship she has to experience it and long for it, something that will not happen unless, I say again, something happens with Zoro to motivate her so.
Do I need to say why nothing will happen with Zoro?
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AWB's descendants. That's all.
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Hopefully when Perona doesn't join you idiots will learn something.
I kinda doubt it though.
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Hopefully when Perona doesn't join you idiots will learn something.
I kinda doubt it though.
Then they'll probably claim that Oda "wasted an opportunity" and put all of that "foreshadowing" in for nothing. At this point, I doubt anything will shut them up.
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@Perona:
. . . a comic book aimed at children . . . One Piece is a manga aimed at kids.
What does this have to do with anything? I see this trotted out all the time in various contexts, but it seems completely irrelevant.
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i don't understand you keep saying perona will join because of this and that, and that
everyone disagreeing with you is dump.
so what do you want us to say, do you want us to agree with you so you can be happyyou don't want to hear us, yet you want us to hear you!!!!!!!!!!
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Can't wait for the next Zoro scene, when either he arrives alone in Sabaody or is saying goodbye to Perona & her new humandrill servants…
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Can't wait for the next Zoro scene, when either he arrives alone in Sabaody or is saying goodbye to Perona & her new humandrill servants…
Same.. I wonder if the SHC will all recognize eachother ?
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I seriously think the so-called "perona supporters" are making these asinine for the sake of trolling. I refuse to believe anyone that stupid can actually continue to exist.
Of course, in 3 weeks or so, that won't be a problem anymore.
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@Perona:
The AP forum, or at least the self proclaimed experts here who have persuaded themselves after much undeserved patting on the back that they're the only ones in the world able to glean something from a comic book aimed at children. One Piece is a manga aimed at kids. Not rocket science. There is ample room for interpretation especially when dealing with future events and speculation. That should be a given.
It's interesting to me that the only people who ever (and always) pull the "children's comic book!!!" argument are Perona fans or supporters. That's basically a "my argument doesn't need to be logical!" excuse for people who know they cannot back up whatever they are bringing. Also worth noting is they all seem to be extremely touchy, responding almost immediately with insults, as well as being experts at ignoring anything that counters their argument; always deflecting and disregarding whatever comes their way, while pretending their argument is flawless. If you want people to honestly discuss something with you, then you need to accept whatever criticism comes your way and then respond accordingly, point by point if necessary.
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The fact that it's a kids comic book means it is mostly damned easy to tell certain things, not that ITS OPEN RANGE FOR THROWIN ME POOP AT TH WALL.
The only kid's stories that are narrative anarchy is shit like the Teletubbies.
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I think there's only about three of them with multiple accounts + the one piece v2 wallahs who dislike us on general principles.
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@Perona:
jnf4ngi6ijh
AGOG I'm dissappointed in you.
You lost the balls to confront your dying days with yourself, instead you don the cover of a throwaway alt account where you pretend to not be you, just so you can argue your last posts in as safe a vessel as possible.Whatever, the outcome will be the same.
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I think there's only about three of them with multiple accounts + the one piece v2 wallahs who dislike us on general principles.
the ones who say we hate OP critics yet they hate us for criticizing naruto.
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@Perona:
A shichibukai will never join. They are are far too reknown, exeprienced, feared and powerful already and would still overshadow and stunt the growth of every single member except maybe those of the so called monster trio even after the time skip.
And unlike Robin their reputation and fame is entirely justified and did not come about as the result of marine propaganda.I can't believe that you might think that the shichibukais status isn't also the result of propaganda. They are fearsome yes but all the talk about the 3 Powers in the world keeping their balance isn't from the marines/wg?
And what about robins status? She can read those poneglyphs. She is extremely dangerous only because of that. Now that they call her a demon is a bit exagerated but regarding the WGs fear of the worlds void history she is one of the most dangerous living being in the OP world. -
I wish Perona would "join", so she can betray the strawhats at the first chance to the world goverment.
I don't think that she would give their friendship more value than 700000050 Berry.
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It's interesting to me that the only people who ever (and always) pull the "children's comic book!!!" argument are Perona fans or supporters. That's basically a "my argument doesn't need to be logical!" excuse for people who know they cannot back up whatever they are bringing. Also worth noting is they all seem to be extremely touchy, responding almost immediately with insults, as well as being experts at ignoring anything that counters their argument; always deflecting and disregarding whatever comes their way, while pretending their argument is flawless. If you want people to honestly discuss something with you, then you need to accept whatever criticism comes your way and then respond accordingly, point by point if necessary.
You wrote that post looking at yourself in the mirror, right ? Or while looking at Zephos or the sheeple maybe ?
Nothing but logic on my part and I have responded point by point to and even expanded on every counter argument put forth by the dishonest and subjugated bunch of sycophants you call the AP forum members.
Our argument isn't flawless. Yours isn't either. But since we are never given the courtesy of any kinda of concession whatsoever even on the most basic and simple things, why should be give you people that courtesy.
Oh I know you are convinced of your intellectual superiority but the only problem is that I'm not.And yes it's a children's comic books not rocket science.
We are speculating about a children's comic book's future events. It's insane to think that only one opinion is valid.And I'm not AGOG. If you haven't figured out who I am by now you are really dumb, Zephos.
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It's not that there is only one valid opinion. It's just that yours isn't in any way, shape or form.
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Durr robins status is only propaganda. You sheeple don't understand anything. Durr.
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@Perona:
You wrote that post looking at yourself in the mirror, right ? Or while looking at Zephos or the sheeple maybe ?
Nothing but logic on my part and I have responded point by point to and even expanded on every counter argument put forth by the dishonest and subjugated bunch of sycophants you call the AP forum members.
Our argument isn't flawless. Yours isn't either. But since we are never given the courtesy of any kinda of concession whatsoever even on the most basic and simple things, why should be give you people that courtesy.
Oh I know you are convinced of your intellectual superiority but the only problem is that I'm not.And yes it's a children's comic books not rocket science.
We are speculating about a children's comic book's future events. It's insane to think that only one opinion is valid.And I'm not AGOG. If you haven't figured out who I am by now you are really dumb, Zephos.
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@Perona:
And yes it's a children's comic books not rocket science.
We are speculating about a children's comic book's future events. It's insane to think that only one opinion is valid.No, there isn't only one opinion valid, but it's not because it's a children's comic books that everythings can happen. For instance, it's impossible that Luffy die during the timeskip. There are some good theories like this one. Even if it won't happen, considering what we know for the moment, it can be true, and they are some dumb predictions.
And Super Connard, Perona joining the crew is among those dumb predictions. You should read UsoppSpell's post which summarize what we already told you several times.
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@Perona:
You wrote that post looking at yourself in the mirror, right ? Or while looking at Zephos or the sheeple maybe ?
Nothing but logic on my part and I have responded point by point to and even expanded on every counter argument put forth by the dishonest and subjugated bunch of sycophants you call the AP forum members.
Our argument isn't flawless. Yours isn't either. But since we are never given the courtesy of any kinda of concession whatsoever even on the most basic and simple things, why should be give you people that courtesy.
Oh I know you are convinced of your intellectual superiority but the only problem is that I'm not.And yes it's a children's comic books not rocket science.
We are speculating about a children's comic book's future events. It's insane to think that only one opinion is valid.And I'm not AGOG. If you haven't figured out who I am by now you are really dumb, Zephos.
And to think that you were the one accusing other members of offending the oh-so-sensible-supporters-of-Perona-sama.
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@Perona:
Nothing but logic on my part and I have responded point by point to and even expanded on every counter argument put forth by the dishonest and subjugated bunch of sycophants you call the AP forum members.
If the first thing about the post i quoted is wrong how can you write what you said above?
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I'm surprised that Connard hasn't been banned again, given that he's behaving exactly like he did when he was banned previously. Really, you'd think some people would learn from that kind of thing and try to improve rather than immediately divulging into childish insults whenever their theories are questioned, but they just keep pushing until they get IP-banned.
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@Perona:
And yes it's a children's comic books not rocket science.
We are speculating about a children's comic book's future events. It's insane to think that only one opinion is valid.What does that mean? The first two sentences are totally unrelated to the third sentence. The idiom "not rocket science" means "simple" or "not difficult to understand," and saying that One Piece is a children's comic implies the same thing. That has nothing to do with what you're saying, which is that One Piece is a work of fiction that's ambiguous enough to admit multiple interpretations. If you're just trying to say that having opinions about fiction or making speculations is different from making immediately falsifiable, factual statements, there are easier and less condescending ways of getting that across.
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I'm surprised that Connard hasn't been banned again, given that he's behaving exactly like he did when he was banned previously. Really, you'd think some people would learn from that kind of thing and try to improve rather than immediately divulging into childish insults whenever their theories are questioned, but they just keep pushing until they get IP-banned.
It's alright. He has a couple weeks left before he's IP-banned.
