http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1629472/story.jhtml
Sam Raimi and Tobey McGuire are not attached for this one.
Wow, this was unexpected. I remember years ago when they announced Spider-Man 4, 5 and 6.
Though with all the strange details about the fourth movie I guess it wasn't THAT unexpected.
Wait….WHAT!?
Peter Parker is headed back to the big screen in 2012, but he'll be without "Spider-Man" franchise director Sam Raimi or star Tobey Maguire when he swings back into action.
YES! THANK YOU JESUS!
No more bug eyed Spiderman! I understand that Spiderman is a nerd, but he isn't the fucking Crypt Keeper!
Lmao. Tobey is cute though. But my favorite role of his was in Seabiscuit, not this.
I swear if they don't give J.K. simmons his job has JJJ back I will have to kill a bitch.
Heh, yeah. Jonah was great. But Tobey….big eyes and whimpering. That sums up what he does when something important happens.
Hopefully the next one will have a Spiderman more like the animated Spectacular Spiderman. The fights there are quite fun and the humor is great as well.
Well, at least we'll see another Spiderman movie. But I kinda liked Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker…..scratches head
I swear if they don't give J.K. simmons his job has JJJ back I will have to kill a bitch.
SDKLJFSKLD agreed.
Finally. Hopefully this run would not be so lovey dovey, and bring back some of my favorite villains with real justice. Mianly Lizard, the Goblins, Venom(don't fuck up) and Carnage.
Really? Because I heard just today that John Malkovich said he's gonna be in a new Spider-Man movie. The article wasn't very specific, though, so maybe he was referring to this reboot?
…Assuming the article was true, of course. :P
Unless I see "Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci" attached to this film it gets a thumbs sideways from me.
Not that I really cared for the Spiderman movies, but Raimi is a cool director, and Tobey is OK.
gruuuu…
how many times do we have to re-tell a god damn story. Can't we see something new and fresh. This better be good. I like spiderman. don't ruin it on me.
While i do think the spiderman flicks were pretty mediocere I'd prefer it if they woud get around to making that rumored Daredevil remake starring Statham and M.C.D instead.
I think this is a big mistake….oh well...Spider-Man is down the toilet.
It couldnt possibly get worse than 2 and 3, so why the hell not.
Like someone said, get the guys who made spectacular in on it and it actualy has a chance of not being shit.
Aww, I actually liked 2.
…way to kill it. -_-
As you should, tarrin. Wolfwood just don't have good tastes in movies. Not only was two the best, but it's one of the best if not THEE best superhero movie ever made. Also, yeah, big mistake. See ya, Spider-Man films.
The scene in Spiderman 2 where a whole train load of people see his secret identity and "promise" not to tell anyone or cash in on that 20,000 dollar bribe Jamesson has out for him is the crowning moment of stupidity in any comic movie.
Now a good comic movie would be Iron man, it has it all. Heck get Favereu to direct and have Weismans team do the story and then've got ourselves an instant classic.
This is exciting and scary news. It could really go either way. SM 1,2 & 3 weren't so terrible that I could actually say, "It couldn't be worse."
But they weren't good enough for me to get bleary-eyed over it.
The scene in Spiderman 2 where a whole train load of people see his secret identity and "promise" not to tell anyone or cash in on that 20,000 dollar bribe Jamesson has out for him is the crowning moment of stupidity in any comic movie.
So true. Even worst than"nuke the fridge". Those people on the train must have all hit their heads at the same time.
Yeah maybe we're cynical but im having a huuuge problem suspending my disbelief on that on a whole train of piss poor city dwellers not one of them would jump at the chance to be set financialy for years to come.
This is exciting and scary news. It could really go either way. SM 1,2 & 3 weren't so terrible that I could actually say, "It couldn't be worse."
The first one was a fairly decent movie, it got by alot on Dafoes charisma and the simplicity of the story. but the second one suffered much from how Maguire portrayed Parker and how much focus was put on him as a character.
I mean he is supposed to be a nerd, but Toby plays him as a wimp. Even if someone came up and spit him in the face he'd still have that same meek sheepish grin on his face. You've got superpowers man, it should do something for your backbone. Personaly i thought there was an underlying confidence that came with that despite how he has to hide and downplay himself. Something which Maguire just misses completly.
And he and Dunst have no chemistry on film, if im to watch a 2 hour long romance i'd atleast like it to feel somewhat belivable. A whole film of two "romanticaly" intertwined people who're just stuck in there with no regard to how they play of each other is just painful to watch.
It's not the worst film i've ever seen though, like i said at best it's mediocre, i'd give it a 3.5/10.
Wow. I didn't see this coming.
On the one hand, I think it was time for Raimi and co. to pass the torch but on the other I would've liked to see what Raimi would've done for 4. I admit, I'm gonna miss the quirky style of the first three movies, they fit the Lee/Ditko era so well. (Well…not so much the sobbing/emo Peter from 3. Even as a fan of the movies, I have to admit I cringed at that stuff.)
I really, really hope they just go the Spectacular Spider-Man route and skip the origin (or at least condense it down into a opening sequence ala Incredible Hulk) and deal with Spidey's first run in with various enemies and high-school life.
These guys will really need to step up their game in not only the writing department but the action side of things, which is what Raimi excelled at. I'm wondering how they'll top the Doc Ock train fight from 2? And who could beat Willem Dafoe as the Green Goblin and JK Simmons as JJJ?
GAAAAAAH.
I can't help but feel that this is gonna be bad but I'm willing to give it a shot. It can't be any worse than Spider-Man Unlimited.
EDIT:
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/01/11/spider-man-reboot/
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT LET MICHAEL BAY DIRECT THIS.
And oh yay, another character thats going to become "gritty".
Yeah maybe we're cynical but im having a huuuge problem suspending my disbelief on that on a whole train of piss poor city dwellers not one of them would jump at the chance to be set financialy for years to come.
The first one was a fairly decent movie, it got by alot on Dafoes charisma and the simplicity of the story. but the second one suffered much from how Maguire portrayed Parker and how much focus was put on him as a character.
I mean he is supposed to be a nerd, but Toby plays him as a wimp. Even if someone came up and spit him in the face he'd still have that same meek sheepish grin on his face. You've got superpowers man, it should do something for your backbone. Personaly i thought there was an underlying confidence that came with that despite how he has to hide and downplay himself. Something which Maguire just misses completly.
And he and Dunst have no chemistry on film, if im to watch a 2 hour long romance i'd atleast like it to feel somewhat belivable. A whole film of two "romanticaly" intertwined people who're just stuck in there with no regard to how they play of each other is just painful to watch.
It's not the worst film i've ever seen though, like i said at best it's mediocre, i'd give it a 3.5/10.
Holy crap do I agree with this post.
I've got to admit I didn't like the second or third movies at all, despite admiring the "fat guy" portrayal of Doctor Octopus, which is in my view about as unique an interpretation as Heath Ledger's mangy Joker.
Although, I don't think Raimi should have been ejected (or ejected himself) over what was obviously him losing control of his own project. The entire matter smells of unintentional sabotage, with a bad script and no real confidence in his direction or his cast.
The major problem with a reboot is exactly what captain usopp said - it's a bloody rehash of the same tired old superhero story everyone's heard a billion times. Only this time, it'll not be heard, but SEEN, in, gasp, 3-D.
Bless Stan Lee, but if he wasn't still alive, he'd be rolling in his grave over this.
He'd be rolling in a bed of money, but rolling in his grave nonetheless.
Well, hopefully this could lead to having a wise-cracking Spider-Man. That was something that the Raimi films was sorely missing.
Thank you, God.
Ahem.
Anyways, I'm glad there's a reboot because Sam was spouting rumours of carnage and three other villains for Spider Man 4
Really? Last I heard, he wanted Vulture and Sony wanted to limit the movie to two villains.
With this news people are coming out of the wood works saying they hated the films. The hell…
The scene in Spiderman 2 where a whole train load of people see his secret identity and "promise" not to tell anyone or cash in on that 20,000 dollar bribe Jamesson has out for him is the crowning moment of stupidity in any comic movie.
I have no problem with that scene. With the millions of people in NYC, who's going to straight up recognize Peter Parker, a nobody kid who delivers pizza and occasionally sells pictures. Even disregarding their gratitude, how would one of them sell him out? Say Spider-Man is a caucasian male with brown hair around 5'10? That'd get them nowhere. And I'm not sure how widely available digital cameras were at the time the movie was made, so even that doesn't really work.
Toby Maguire has a pretty damn distinctive look. Get on of those police artists and lay the description on them. Long neck, really and i do mean really small round head, pale skin, no lips to speak of, blue eyes, bushy eyebrows, brown hair, small bulbous nose, big ear for his head, looks to be a suburbanite around so or so many years, kinda shortish with a slight build.
Within a few tries a decent artist should be able to get down a pretty accurate phantom image of him from that.
True story, the first time I saw Spiderman 1, the film jumped and as an audience we lost a few minutes of film. Notably, Uncle Ben's death scene. As a result, his last words were not "With great power comes great responsibility" but instead "You're going to help me paint the house, right?" (bonus amusement from Greg quoting it)
I've never been able to take the movie seriously, as a result. Goblin suit and horrible Spidey costume design didn't help. (that scene on the rooftop where Spider is drugges and unmoving, and he and Goblin are both talking at length while in full face masks… that was bad.)
Mostly I give it props or the ICONOGRAPHY of the upside down kiss in the rain. Most memorable scene in the whole thing, and in that shot at least, Dunst was pretty hot. And it delivered the origin about as well as it has been done, even if it flopped on cannibalizing the famous bridge scene confrontation.
Part 2 was a good theatre experiance, but didn't hold up at all to rewatching. And part 3 is when all the faults came to a head and everyone was willing to point them out. (Though I found emo Peter hilarious. Not in the way it was intended, I'm sure, but hilarious all the same.)
As for the reboot, I'd say hew closer to Ultimate Spidey, except the first film already kind of did. They developed at the same time and took a lot of the same process to rejigger the origin, and from there it went downhill. And Ultimate Spidey even has had quite a few really bad arcs in it. So while it may be the best Spidey comic going...
Could we get the people responsible for the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon involved in this? They kind of knew what they were doing and delivered the best Spidey in 20 years in any medium.
Just a suggestion, Sony.
@Syan:
Even disregarding their gratitude, how would one of them sell him out?
Little thing called cell phone cameras. People have them. Even if the train goers didn't recognize random kid, Jonah sure would!
I want a X-Men/Spidey crossover like some episodes in this 90's cartoon series …
But new team on movie 4/reboot: Can work out. I like all three movies but even I have to admit that the movies went worser from part to part.
@robbybedfart:
Could we get the people responsible for the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon involved in this? They kind of knew what they were doing and delivered the best Spidey in 20 years in any medium.
As much as I like the movies, I'm gonna have to agree that Spectacular is the best adaptation the Wall-Crawler has ever gotten. (Where the hell is my third season?!)
I wonder if Greg Weisman has ever directed live-action stuff before?
Thank God
I've been a Spidey fan for as long as i can remember and I've never liked any of these films. The 2nd one is easily the best one, but still.
I've never liked Toby McGuire as Spidey. He can do nerdy, but when it comes to snappy patter he sounds fucking awful. And he's got this weird problem with his face. He can't not smile, even when he's supposed to be sad.
and Kirsten Dunst is pretty terrible too
I never thought Raimi was fit to direct these movies. Hopefully now I'll be able to put a Spider-Man movie into a Top 5 Favorite Comic Book Movies list. Not keen on a reboot though. They need to pull an Incredible Hulk on this one.
That's what I think they need to do. Recap the majority of the origin into the opening credits via Hulk and start the movie off after that.
Who would be the villain/s, though? I think they would want to hold off on the Green Goblin for a sequel so it doesn't feel like the same movie all over again. (They could do the Death of Gwen Stacey for the sequel)
Maybe Dr. Octopus and Electro? They could have their origins mixed together, like both were involved in a freak accident with some new, experimental machine.
Lizard, while I think is a lackluster villain, would maybe make a good first outing. Both smart people who suddenly find themselves bestowed with power, one deciding to use it for good, and the other going crazy.
Oooh, the Lizard might be good. They could also bring in Kraven to hunt him down. (I wanna see that iconic gravestone scene from Kraven's Last Hunt some time, Hollywood!)
…but man, would that suck for Dylan Baker. He was apparently looking really forward to being the Lizard. 
Yeah, wasn't the Lizard suppose to be the baddie in Spider-Man 4? So that could even further his chances of being the baddie in the reboot.
@robbybedfart:
Little thing called cell phone cameras. People have them. Even if the train goers didn't recognize random kid, Jonah sure would!
Remember that it was in 2004. Were cell phones cameras as widely available? I didn't see any till '05. Plus it doesn't specify when the movie takes place.
I suppose Tobey Maguire does have a pretty unique look, though. Even with him in the role, I still picture Peter Parker as he is in the comics, very much the everyman with basic features like I described. Good counter-points, though.
I just hope this reboot film doesn't have MJ whatsoever. Leave romantic plot, or failings therein, to Liz Allen, Betty Brant, or a good Gwen Stacy. I'd love a movie to really build up Gwen Stacy the way she deserves and a sequel to bring in Goblin and a heartbreaking death scene.
I dunno, I kept hearing Raimi wanted the Vulture and Sony wanted Black Cat. (Which I don't think is a good idea, I think she would resemble Catwoman too much.)
There's also the Scorpion. They could do a Spider-Slayer storyline and have Scorpion be the ultimate Spider-Slayer.
I am really disappointed Sam isn't getting to do this. I was really looking forward to 4 being his comeback after the horridness of 3. Now that's gonna leave a stain.
Well, he said he couldn't "creatively go forward" with the movie so I think it was best that he left.
They would've rushed it to make the May 2011 deadline, anyways. Hell they didn't even have a script ready.
I don't know how the new film will pan out, but I applaud Raimi for knowing when to cut his losses and not try to force a failure.
If ROBERT PATTINSON (as rumoured) plays Spiderman. It's fucked.
To be honest - I thought Maguire made a good Spiderman, and I was anticipating Spiderman 4.
I liked Spiderman 1 tremendously, 2 not so much, but still liked it - didn't like 3.
But a Reboot isn't what it needs - that will just leave a FAIL STAMP on the Franchise,
saying "HEY EVERYONE, THIS SERIES SUCKED SO BAD, IT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE !!"
I expect they'll then have to reboot the reboot, in a few years.
Shame, they took the easy way out … Could have fixed it.
That was posted last Friday. Sony supposedly made the decision yesterday to cancel 4 and reboot the franchise.
Thank god! Now I don't have to see Tobey's mere existence in a film ever again.
As long as they feature a villain that wasn't in any of the previous three movies, this should be fine.
I enjoyed the Spider Man films and Tobey Maguire was easily my top favourite thing about them.
I also think Sam Raimi is a pretty swell director. He managed to give the films a distinct personal touch that I think just about every other superhero film these days sorely lacks.
But of course I have no idea how good or how bad this new movie could possibly turn out, so I'll just wait and twiddle my thumbs in the meanwhile.
Thank god! Now I don't have to see Tobey's mere existence in a film ever again.
lol, agreed fully.
Thought all the Spider-Man films were garbage and Toby was a terrible choice for it. I like Sam Rami just not these movies. The movie was the same as most of the other comic book movies-Crap. They change so many things that they don't need to and replace then with horrible ideas. Each sequel was worse then the last, ending with the epic fail of Venom. They should just make comics based on Hollywood's version of comics then make movies based around that, then they'll have a good reason to be terrible.
It is nice that the series is getting a "reboot" but with the trend of bad comic movies continuing, i'm not holding my breath.
