Welp no they're not. (but I still got to see what they're supposed to be) and boy it's a probably a good thing the images are broken.
Dunno what went wrong the first time, but I rehosted them, just for you. And everyone. And my sense of masochism.
Welp no they're not. (but I still got to see what they're supposed to be) and boy it's a probably a good thing the images are broken.
Dunno what went wrong the first time, but I rehosted them, just for you. And everyone. And my sense of masochism.
@Count:
I agree with all of this, but I think it is also worth thinking about what the rest of Guts' party will do after Casca regains her memory and the truth comes out (if Guts, Casca, Schierke, or Farnese even disclose it, but I hope they do because I'm sick of these secrets being kept). Basically, what I'm saying is… what if there's a chance that somebody takes Casca's side? It would feel too one-sided and awkward if Casca just left on her own. And the relationship between Farnese and Casca, to the point where Farnese is literally experiencing Casca's past emotions/memories, had to be built up for something significant when Casca does regain her memory. And if Farnese sides with Casca, then how would Serpico feel? Not to mention Roderick, he has to be here for some sort of reason too than being the ship captain and trying to gain Farnese's favor. And I wonder if when Isidro finally learns about Guts' affiliation with the Band of the Hawk, we actually get to see his backstory about his home life, Guts becoming his idol, and why he ran away.
Faust, since you're a big fan of Golden Age parallels occurring with Casca regaining her memory, do you think that we could see a parallel to when the Band of the Hawk almost fell apart after Griffith was saved from the dungeon and Guts decided to leave again? I personally fully expect something like that, except this will eventually (maybe not this arc but EVENTUALLY) end up with Guts making the "right" choice this time to show character growth.
I think that regardless of how dire their dispute will turn out Guts will never leave Casca behind again, in vol 17 realizing his previous mistakes he swore to never leave her again and to put aside his quest for revenge.
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That panel is one of the most important turning point of the series, if not the most important. If he had to stand between the decision of protecting Casca and pursuing his revenge he would choose the first, as he did at the Tower of Conviction. That is why i doubt the group will split, i can't tell what sort of conflict there will be between the 2, whether just an argument or a serious falling out (though i also doubt it will be that dire of an argument), but i can't see Guts leaving Casca behind to hunt down Griffith, his character already grew past that. So, yes, i think this time Guts will not repeat his previous mistake, if he would that would be a degradation from his current character.
A splitting of the group would only occur if Casca would firmly decide that she doesn't want Guts to follow her, and in that case i really don't know what the rest of the group would do, it's a very hard question. Isidro admires Guts almost as his idol (which is Guts himself lol), Farnese idolizes him as the prophet that changed her life and she has a crush on him (a similar relationship between Golden Age's Casca and Griffith) but at the same time how could she leave Casca go alone? Serpico just follows Farnese and i can't see him finally going on emotionally free from her, that is the direction his character is taking, but not just yet. Roderick also follows her as he seems to genuinely feel interest for her. Schierke is Farnese's teacher and splitting them up would interrupt the training. I'm almost tempted to say that by how hard of a situation would be to manage narratively, Miura may never choose to opt for it. Also the eventuality that Casca may refuse to be followed by Guts seems a bit extreme as developement. That is why i'm inclined to think that they will go on together, regardless of how much tension there will be between them in the meantime.
About Guts's intentions, when he was hurring toward the Tower of Conviction, after he met Skull Knight, he kept considering the eventuality that Griffith would stand before him while searching for Casca,
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and even recently, on the Sea Horse, before landing at Skellig he was shown to pondering at what he would do after she regains her mind. That is to show that subconsciously he never really abandoned his desire to hunt down Griffith, he only choosed to temporarily put it aside for Casca. But i can envision a situation at end of manga where he will have to make his final fateful choice, and after that no turning back, remaining with his new friend and renouncing definetely to kill Griffith, or repeating his previous mistake? That is not to say there won't be a final battle between them of course, they WILL have a final battle. But this decision cannot happen now because it's deeply linked with his trauma from the Eclipse and with the mental state that he developed in the 2 years when he went around hunting apostles, that is to say the Beast of Darkness. The instant Guts is able to put aside his hateful thoughts for Griffith is the instant his mind will heal, and he will fight that battle not for revenge anymore.
@Dr.:
I think that regardless of how dire their dispute will turn out Guts will never leave Casca behind again, in vol 17 realizing his previous mistakes he swore to never leave her again and to put aside his quest for revenge.
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That panel is one of the most important turning point of the series, if not the most important. If he had to stand between the decision of protecting Casca and pursuing his revenge he would choose the first, as he did at the Tower of Conviction. That is why i doubt the group will split, i can't tell what sort of conflict there will be between the 2, whether just an argument or a serious falling out (though i also doubt it will be that dire of an argument), but i can't see Guts leaving Casca behind to hunt down Griffith, his character already grew past that. So, yes, i think this time Guts will not repeat his previous mistake, if he would that would be a degradation from his current character.
I completely about Guts' resolve to not abandon Casca again.
A splitting of the group would only occur if Casca would firmly decide that she doesn't want Guts to follow her, and in that case i really don't know what the rest of the group would do, it's a very hard question. Isidro admires Guts almost as his idol (which is Guts himself lol), Farnese idolizes him as the prophet that changed her life and she has a crush on him (a similar relationship between Golden Age's Casca and Griffith) but at the same time how could she leave Casca go alone? Serpico just follows Farnese and i can't see him finally going on emotionally free from her, that is the direction his character is taking, but not just yet. Roderick also follows her as he seems to genuinely feel interest for her. Schierke is Farnese's teacher and splitting them up would interrupt the training. I'm almost tempted to say that by how hard of a situation would be to manage narratively, Miura may never choose to opt for it. Also the eventuality that Casca may refuse to be followed by Guts seems a bit extreme as developement. That is why i'm inclined to think that they will go on together, regardless of how much tension there will be between them in the meantime.
You summed up exactly why I want to see Miura tackle this. It's a very hard idea, but that makes it all the more compelling. In fact, I just thought of ANOTHER potential parallel. If Casca getting her memory back is supposed to parallel when Guts confessed about his past and rape experience with Casca, then why can't Casca wanting to leave parallel how Guts wanted to leave the Band of the Hawk?
About Guts's intentions, when he was hurring toward the Tower of Conviction, after he met Skull Knight, he kept considering the eventuality that Griffith would stand before him while searching for Casca,
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and even recently, on the Sea Horse, before landing at Skellig he was shown to pondering at what he would do after she regains her mind. That is to show that subconsciously he never really abandoned his desire to hunt down Griffith, he only choosed to temporarily put it aside for Casca. But i can envision a situation at end of manga where he will have to make his final fateful choice, and after that no turning back, remaining with his new friend and renouncing definetely to kill Griffith, or repeating his previous mistake? That is not to say there won't be a final battle between them of course, they WILL have a final battle. But this decision cannot happen now because it's deeply linked with his trauma from the Eclipse and with the mental state that he developed in the 2 years when he went around hunting apostles, that is to say the Beast of Darkness. The instant Guts is able to put aside his hateful thoughts for Griffith is the instant his mind will heal, and he will fight that battle not for revenge anymore.
I also agree with this. I only wonder what will happen to still have Guts fight Griffith after all of this build-up. I hope it's something more creative than Guts being forced to because Griffith will destroy everything or threaten to kill somebody he cares about.
@Count:
You summed up exactly why I want to see Miura tackle this. It's a very hard idea, but that makes it all the more compelling. In fact, I just thought of ANOTHER potential parallel. If Casca getting her memory back is supposed to parallel when Guts confessed about his past and rape experience with Casca, then why can't Casca wanting to leave parallel how Guts wanted to leave the Band of the Hawk?
It's possible, but Casca would need very serious reason to wish that, i doubt she'll just want to leave on a whim like Guts back then. Maybe she's going to think that Guts's hate for Griffith would endanger their son or something like that.
And besides after having followed this manga and Guts's constant torments for so long i just don't want anything bad happen to him anymore lol. Give the poor guy a break XD.
I also agree with this. I only wonder what will happen to still have Guts fight Griffith after all of this build-up. I hope it's something more creative than Guts being forced to because Griffith will destroy everything or threaten to kill somebody he cares about.
Unfortunately i doubt it's going to be something more creative than that. It's true that Guts would never fight to save the world or for something that doesn't concern himself, but the current Guts would surely fight to save his new companions, and it is exactly for his indifferent attitude towards everything that i can't see him doing it for anything else.
Meanwhile the new Berserk anime be like:
I mean… this is a joke right?:ninja:
I'm a bit behind. Is the Berserk comic running again?
It comes and goes. It is currently running yes, but probably only for another chapter or two before breaking again. Art just takes too long to quite make it monthly it seems.
I think Griffith corrupting and body snatching Guts' unborn child is enough reason to smack him around lol
Call me old fashioned, but I think that the sacrifice and rape is enough reason.
Call me old fashioned, but I think that the sacrifice and rape is enough reason.
lol that too 16char
This new chapter did remind me that both Farnese AND Schierke have/had unrequited feelings for Guts; it's been a while since my last Berserk reread.
Like others, I have to say I'm not really looking forward to what these two might be exposed to next chapter. Miura's tone is so different compared to what it once was, I wonder what will even be shown.Meanwhile the new Berserk anime be like:
Berserk for the Sega CD.
WELCO
METOT
HENEX
TLEVEL
Did anyone check out the latest episode? I know it's a thing to dedicate an episode every once in a while to recap, but to place it directly after Guts get the Berserker armor and is ready to fight Grunbeld is even more of a slight against humanity than this adaptation already is.
Take one look at the animation from the previous episode and it's pretty obvious why they went with a recap this time. They flat-out ran out of time and money and desperately needed to stall. I don't blame them, you can practically see the stress the team is under in the actual production.
I don't totally get why they went with a one-hour episode for the premiere, though, really, if they hadn't done that they could have avoided doing this recap episode and have been on the same schedule as they are now.
Take one look at the animation from the previous episode and it's pretty obvious why they went with a recap this time. They flat-out ran out of time and money and desperately needed to stall. I don't blame them, you can practically see the stress the team is under in the actual production.
I don't totally get why they went with a one-hour episode for the premiere, though, really, if they hadn't done that they could have avoided doing this recap episode and have been on the same schedule as they are now.
Him yeah, maybe you're right. the episode before this one was exceptionally bad. I wonder how much they have to screw up to hand the project over to someone else..
Huh, i just finished watching new ep, and they cut out the boy they met at beach after guts gets zerk armour.. tho i guess he wasnt really all that relevant so its ok?
Berserk will be on hiatus until Winter after chapter 351 (this week chapter).
This was expected…
Well, if he keeps up this schedule at least, it will conclude one day
! Those things look like living penises.
! Good god. That's a lot of penis monsters.
! Is that Mara? Yep, that's Mara
So 3 chapters this year, unless he does a couple on November-December.
So 3 chapters this year, unless he does a couple on November-December.
The chapter we only have raw scans on makes 4 since the return in March.
And prior to that we had chapters at the end of July, August and September last year. So that'll be 7 chapters in the last 11 months, which is about his norm. 5-6 weeks per chapter. A page every 2 days.
Not quiiiite fast enough to do a monthly schedule, but roughly 8-9 chapters in the course of a year, though not always a calendar year. (Though if there was true desperation to get monthly chapters, he could cut them down to 12 pages instead of 20. We'd get a steady flow then but even less progress.)
Given his general track record, we probably will get more in October/November for another set of three or four.
May not be until January if there's a third season of the anime to coincide with again.
Chapter 351: http://readms.net/r/berserk/351/4370/1
PENIS MONSTERS WITH PENIS ARMS AND TEETH! Faaaack. Woohoo for imagination?
edit: Hiatus until Winter. :sad:
PENIS MONSTERS WITH PENIS ARMS AND TEETH! Faaaack. Woohoo for imagination?
They can only be combatted with Fetishes and torture device teeth. How fitting.
I knew Miura took influence from Giger, but this is like a Xzibit load of Giger. Like Giger had posed 'what if part of monsters was penises' but Miura confidently retorted 'what if everything was penises'.
That is a bible passage's worth of genital flesh piled into those creatures. It's like instead of frosty the snowman, Miura sang a magic song around a pile of severed dicks.
I dunno guys I think you're jumping the gun on the penis thing here
I dunno guys I think you're jumping the gun on the penis thing here
I don't know, man. Reading that image of the Mozgus head pulling giant dick monsters into its teeth for shredding… I felt a little bit of that pain. :ninja:
Our Christmas gift from Miura is the knowledge of whom Caska wants to meet, her son or Griffith.
So it's just one person then.
The penis shaped monsters were horrific enough to effectively communicate to the readers Casca's trauma of having been raped and her consequent fear of male sexuality, even during the group's travels she's often seen being diffident of males and hiding behind Farnese, as when they met Roderick at Vritannis. I wouldn't be surprised if regardless of what argument she'll have with Guts she wouldn't be back with him as lover in any case, not immediately at least.
Our Christmas gift from Miura is the knowledge of whom Caska wants to meet, her son or Griffith.
She was referring to Guts. He's the most important person in her past memories so there's no way it was someone else. Her son will come into play later after she'll be back sane and fully consciously realize that she has a son, and as for Griffith i think she's still too scared and confused to fully shape her thoughts into desire for vengeance, and she wouldn't put that before wanting to meet Guts anyway.
Miura must be possessed by some sort of dick demon.
I kind of figured if I left this thread a few days people would stop talking about dicks….....should've figured that was a bit too naive on my part:ninja:.
Roderick is a badass for slapping Griffith. He's lucky to have not been in the Eclipse.
Well. That don't sound right.
Rickert looks just as surprised to be there as any of us
Guess Rickert is the captain now….though he doesn't look like a somali pirate to me.
! I have no idea what's going on but as usual the art looks awesome.
Chapter out.
I just hope in this turn of serialisation,at least the fight ends.
Well they're already up to the Eclipse and have most of the pieces of Caska's mind, I'd think they could wrap this part up in fairly short order at this point.
This has honestly been more tame than I expected. Kinda disappointing. I guess Miura doesn't have it in him anymore to write and draw an Eclipse level event.