Who did Ace tell to take care of his brother?
Jinbei will be the next crew member.
So who's going to protect Fishman Island?
Who did Ace tell to take care of his brother?
Jinbei will be the next crew member.
So who's going to protect Fishman Island?
Once Perona gets ample one on one screen time with Luffy that's been the prereq that every single other Straw Hat has gone through, along with both Jinbei and Hancock. Then we can start seriously considering Perona as a potential crewmate.
@Superbear:
So who's going to protect Fishman Island?
Luffy. it will be his 2nd island under his FLAG!
Once Perona gets ample one on one screen time with Luffy that's been the prereq that every single other Straw Hat has gone through, along with both Jinbei and Hancock. Then we can start seriously considering Perona as a potential crewmate.
My only problem with Jinbei and Hancock other than Jinbei flat personality is that there are so many legal matters tied to them; I mean you have Fishman Island which is now unprotected, de to thee whole televised death of Whitebeard. Then there's Amazon Lily which has to be protected by someone.
Luffy. it will be his 2nd island under his FLAG!
Wahh?? The Government sees Luffy as an upstart rookie who has potential, not a defining figure in the world. Also 2nd? refresh my memory, what island was the first to be protected under his flag?
Who did Ace tell to take care of his brother?
Jinbei will be the next crew member.
Who did Sabo tell to take care of his little brother?
Ace will be the next…... oh wait.
Strawhat wants 10 followers, 2 more… A fish (maybe Jimbe) and someone weird (maybe Perona)
I just got to thinking about AGOG and Perona, I then realized she may be a temporary ally to the crew. We do have 100% confirmation that a "boss" character will accompany the crew to the New World. My guess is that it would be Moria all the way. So far he seems to be the only "boss" I can think of that has completely fallen from grace in every aspect.
I can see Perona following Zoro as far back as she could assuming she would get closer to Moria once more. She and Moria will probably be temporaray allies with the Straw Hats while Moria is once again trying to prove himself to the world.
Then just wait for it, the ghost network will be scouting, and she will be hugging chopper like crazy, wanting him to talk to her all the time. The doors will be too small for Moria and Franky will not care.
Once Perona gets ample one on one screen time with Luffy that's been the prereq that every single other Straw Hat has gone through, along with both Jinbei and Hancock. Then we can start seriously considering Perona as a potential crewmate.
It isn't important to discount a speculation for a character that, let's face it, can actually appear without being random in the not-so-distant future…
Perona can appear in the plot come "reunion" if things tweak themselves to the general thought that Zoro will need some help following navigational directions towards that location. It wouldn't even be random to suspect her as a probable side character when the Strawhats reunite, similar to Hatchan and Rayleigh; even Jinbei may be there...
This stuff isn't even hard to expect; at least, not in the future... I do agree that it wouldn't be effective to argue that Perona's meeting with Luffy during the whole Thriller Bark episode [not anime-linked, just a general terminology…] contributes -somehow- to her automatically joining. Lord knows, Thriller Bark only provides excerpts of content towards what identity you could create to explain Perona, and nothing else beyond that.
But, this isn't a "real" prereq since Brook's initial encounter lead to him formally joining the crew, regardless of what debate you want to establish. Which might mean that this idea for an interaction might be short and sudden– something that you wouldn't even see coming, sometimes. So, I strongly disagree that you need some "special" interaction just to "join" like how any random character could do; accepting an invitation is about the basic to joining the crew, I'd say.
Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if Oda just gave two pages for this and suddenly, without warning, somehow added her character as a tag along in a silly manor; providing some insignificant excuse to allow the reader to accept.
I mean, unlike Jinbei and Hancock, Perona, at her current position and stage, can join the crew NOW-- not after further development and all that jazz.
She doesn't need a "save Amazon Lilly Arc, Fishman Island Arc, or something that explains how a certain character turns isolated" because she already gained that explanation as the story progressed. Which, I believe that these odd instances lead to something happening, otherwise she would have remained by Moria's side, like a fodder character would.
Surely, it is a little premature and articulate to consider her a "candidate" with the lack of information that many find is mandatory to joining; however, I feel that she's probably the most probable character because she only needs to move into a position to accept an invite, and doesn't need an immense arc to allow her that position.
We all know that having Jinbei join before Fishman Island happens is rather absurd. Having Hancock just leave without any closure is ridiculous. We all know that Margueritte leaving with Luffy is pointless, and several other situations...
However, until those things get cleared up, and become provided, why is it fair to even consider those characters "candidates" in the first place, and ignore Perona due to her "being" being beyond the norm? It just doesn't really make much sense, if you ask me...
Also, can you actually debate with me... :getlost:
Wait, Phenomenol's new account hasn't been banned yet? :blink:
That's definitely not Phenom. He was laugh at him funny.
We do have 100% confirmation that a "boss" character will accompany the crew to the New World.
Just to clarify: no, we don't have any confirmation about this rumor. The rumor has it come from Oda's comentary in a JUMP party (in 2008, I think), but while it has a big chance of being true (due to us having previous similar reports turning true, like "a nakama will die" or "a character from Alabasta will return"), it's not documented anywhere that Oda said that, so we can't trust in it blindly.
Who the heck are you, mister/miss?
You seem to wanna take your shot at "AGOG" and get a "GTFO" result directly after, eh?
Well, here I am… and: bring it!
Pardon the correction: you need to take your bummed out trashy opinion and shove it up a place that someone would actually give a fuck for...
Popular to contrary belief, she isn't even close to anything "shitty, retarded, stupid, and annoying" as you so boldly phrase it. If you disagree, please bear in mind that people like me hope you would offer a written, with ACTUAL proof, report to validate whatever bullshit you label her as.
Furthermore, having an abyss for a "past" is the only truth you've stated-- she HOLDS a personality, regardless of the amount of libel you wanna present. However, that is a plus since Oda could obviously PROVIDE one for her, any that he wishes to insert since she OUGHT to have something available to her during the "unknown years" she lived prior to joining Thriller Bark. Having just that stretch of leeway room allows her to become a thrilling mysterious figure that could eventually have a massive "arc" revealed as her base, sometime in the future.
Removing the hatred and personality stupidity from your argument shows the truth behind everything: you officially have NO provided argument against Perona joining the strawhat crew, nor can you dismiss her chances at all. I cannot establish that she's a given, due to the unknowns of the situation that Zoro is facing and what situation she'll be in when the crew reunites, as well as the idea that she'll get a chance to be placed into such a promising spot in order to join. Despite that, I can, however, rank her as either the premier best, or something elite, due to the speculative content around her character and what purpose she holds currently being in the position she seemingly exists in.
With that, it is something interesting that only willing minds would be able to properly, unbiasedly examine. You, obviously, cannot even bear to spell the words, let alone enact upon their meanings.
I admire your character devotion, specially for being the worst character in OP
@Zik:
That's definitely not Phenom. He was laugh at him funny.
Hm, who do you think I was talking about? :unsure:
I admire your character devotion, specially for being the worst character in OP
That statement is kind of loaded,she's defiantly not the worst in the entire series; hell I tolerate her more than Lucci, who has no personally what so ever though I would like to see him again.
what a successful first day for AGOG
who didn`t miss him.
I admire your character devotion, specially for being the worst character in OP
SERIOUSLY????? Please I'm going to have a cardiac arrest
I admire your character devotion, specially for being the worst character in OP
And infinitely better than your character…
Hardy har har--!!
I hope you read the part where I specifically ASKED for your proof towards such a claim. Now, please my "agog" and get to work! Thanks in advance, ha-ha-dude!!
AGOG: I'm not going to bother debating with you, I or anyone here will not be able to change your beliefs, so I'm not going to bother. But if you don't think that talking to Luffy, the Captain of the crew, something that has happened for every other straw hat that has come, isn't important to them joining, then that's just plain ignorance.
AGOG: I'm not going to bother debating with you, I or anyone here will not be able to change your beliefs, so I'm not going to bother. But if you don't think that talking to Luffy, the Captain of the crew, something that has happened for every other straw hat that has come, isn't important to them joining, then that's just plain ignorance.
I worded this quite clear…
I do think that the only interaction needed to join the crew is the one where Captain Luffy asks Member A/ Pirate A to join the crew... When, surprisingly, Member A/ Pirate A either accepts or rejects the invitation outright, or whatever... Officially, they either join or reject the chance to join.
That's about as "needed" as it is and this is quite obvious as far as the manga says.
When I wrote all that stuff out, I stated that there isn't any need to have a whole "debate" over this nonsense because if by God that character has to join the crew, then it will be only a matter of time until the person eventually gets that shit, and could even come the chapter that character joins, first appears, or something totally "fruitless" and impossible to converse over. In other words, it is something that you wouldn't be able to effectively argue, predict or even consider before that moment/ instance happens. Frankly speaking, I stated that it isn't relevant to the idea that a character MUST have it to join the crew, prior to the chapter they join-- in that day-to-day sort of approach.
Do you disagree with the idea that what concept you brought holds little importance in terms of being relevant to the actual speculation concerning who joins?
That's all...
As far as debating goes, I'm giving you a lot of shit to answer and it is simple shit, of which you could even answer yes or no. Personally, I've pretty much given you the whole entire answer and all you have to do is state that you agree with it, due to it being the only option.
It isn't a "real" debate, it's just me trying to make you respect that I'm obviously more detailed than you are and I demand your respect on the idea that SHE can actually join NOW and not have to have over a billion painkillers to cure the rabid "attractions" that come with that character, prior to joining [FI, Hancock's island, etc.]…
So, please just answer it as I expect you to...
Nobody's going to "debate" you AGOG. Because of your blatent Perona fanboyism, anyone debating you feels like their debating a brick wall. You give stupid reasons to counter valid ones, and I'm sure you disagree with this statement and will post a wall of godforsaken text as to why your reasons are valid. And while some people would argue with a brick wall fanboy like yourself for fun, you ruin that by having posts that make each page you post on longer than the Great Wall of China. I'm going to avoid this topic again because you didn't just disappear. Have fun explaining to us why Perona = GOD = SH. And have fun typing out a dissertation to reply to this and say "lolz my post is bigger, I won".
No, I do hope you get off your LAZY ass and write that "comeback" of yours…
yeah, i'm too lazy to insult a shit poster like AGOG
lol
As far as debating goes, I'm giving you a lot of shit to answer and it is simple shit, of which you could even answer yes or no. Personally, I've pretty much given you the whole entire answer and all you have to do is state that you agree with it, due to it being the only option.
It isn't a "real" debate, it's just me trying to make you respect that I'm obviously more detailed than you are and I demand your respect on the idea that SHE can actually join NOW and not have to have over a billion painkillers to cure the rabid "attractions" that come with that character, prior to joining [FI, Hancock's island, etc.]…
So, please just answer it as I expect you to...
I'm good thanks. Lol said it best.
I worded this quite clear…
I do think that the only interaction needed to join the crew is the one where Captain Luffy asks Member A/ Pirate A to join the crew... When, surprisingly, Member A/ Pirate A either accepts or rejects the invitation outright, or whatever... Officially, they either join or reject the chance to join.
That's about as "needed" as it is and this is quite obvious as far as the manga says.
When I wrote all that stuff out, I stated that there isn't any need to have a whole "debate" over this nonsense because if by God that character has to join the crew, then it will be only a matter of time until the person eventually gets that shit, and could even come the chapter that character joins, first appears, or something totally "fruitless" and impossible to converse over. In other words, it is something that you wouldn't be able to effectively argue, predict or even consider before that moment/ instance happens. Frankly speaking, I stated that it isn't relevant to the idea that a character MUST have it to join the crew, prior to the chapter they join-- in that day-to-day sort of approach.
Do you disagree with the idea that what concept you brought holds little importance in terms of being relevant to the actual speculation concerning who joins?
That's all...
As far as debating goes, I'm giving you a lot of shit to answer and it is simple shit, of which you could even answer yes or no. Personally, I've pretty much given you the whole entire answer and all you have to do is state that you agree with it, due to it being the only option.
It isn't a "real" debate, it's just me trying to make you respect that I'm obviously more detailed than you are and I demand your respect on the idea that SHE can actually join NOW and not have to have over a billion painkillers to cure the rabid "attractions" that come with that character, prior to joining [FI, Hancock's island, etc.]…
So, please just answer it as I expect you to...
Do u think i ll read this wall of s**t? Speak within 15 words… :getlost:
AGOG's time is almost done anyway. He could very well be finished next chapter.
I hope we gets some more vagina on the crew soon; I'm starving.
@Superbear:
Alright look man here's skinny, Jinbei isn't going to join, we have a traditional Japanese style attitude fighter on the crew and we don't need another one. Plain and simple, because this thing is going drag for days and I'm not to up for that.
lol @ Jinbei and skinny in the same sentence.
Anyhow, the last nakama is Gin, when he makes his comeback.
Naw AGOG isn't done yet unfortunately, next chapter will set up for training/time skip :ninja:.
A past can build up later. She's certainly not the stupidest or most retarded character of this manga…
Well what's the point to argue.
I, for one find her funny ( her fight with Usopp, her interraction with Nami, her obsession with dark places)
She's weird enough to be part of the crew. AND her power is fun and original IMO ( unlike some vapid shichibukai's )
If you think WIERD AND FUANNY is reason enough to close your eyes and pick a random background character with zero depth and personality you're too dumb for this thread.
Actually I'm not even gonna try anymore, the doomsday clock is ticking and that's all I need.
@JERK:
If you think WIERD AND FUANNY is reason enough to close your eyes and pick a random background character with zero depth and personality you're too dumb for this thread.
Actually I'm not even gonna try anymore, the doomsday clock is ticking and that's all I need.
Just quoting you about the sig; are you taking a side on what happened to Moria?
I don't care enough.
Rockstar 4 nakama.
@JERK:
If you think WIERD AND FUANNY is reason enough to close your eyes and pick a random background character with zero depth and personality you're too dumb for this thread.
Actually I'm not even gonna try anymore, the doomsday clock is ticking and that's all I need.
totally agree with you.
I like the idea of Perona joining but I think that if Oda was heading that way he might have actually written Perona's and Zoro's story instead of limiting it to cover stories.
It isn't important to discount a speculation for a character that, let's face it, can actually appear without being random in the not-so-distant future…
Perona can appear in the plot come "reunion" if things tweak themselves to the general thought that Zoro will need some help following navigational directions towards that location. It wouldn't even be random to suspect her as a probable side character when the Strawhats reunite, similar to Hatchan and Rayleigh; even Jinbei may be there...
This stuff isn't even hard to expect; at least, not in the future... I do agree that it wouldn't be effective to argue that Perona's meeting with Luffy during the whole Thriller Bark episode [not anime-linked, just a general terminology…] contributes -somehow- to her automatically joining. Lord knows, Thriller Bark only provides excerpts of content towards what identity you could create to explain Perona, and nothing else beyond that.
But, this isn't a "real" prereq since Brook's initial encounter lead to him formally joining the crew, regardless of what debate you want to establish. Which might mean that this idea for an interaction might be short and sudden– something that you wouldn't even see coming, sometimes. So, I strongly disagree that you need some "special" interaction just to "join" like how any random character could do; accepting an invitation is about the basic to joining the crew, I'd say.
Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if Oda just gave two pages for this and suddenly, without warning, somehow added her character as a tag along in a silly manor; providing some insignificant excuse to allow the reader to accept.
I mean, unlike Jinbei and Hancock, Perona, at her current position and stage, can join the crew NOW-- not after further development and all that jazz.
She doesn't need a "save Amazon Lilly Arc, Fishman Island Arc, or something that explains how a certain character turns isolated" because she already gained that explanation as the story progressed. Which, I believe that these odd instances lead to something happening, otherwise she would have remained by Moria's side, like a fodder character would.
Surely, it is a little premature and articulate to consider her a "candidate" with the lack of information that many find is mandatory to joining; however, I feel that she's probably the most probable character because she only needs to move into a position to accept an invite, and doesn't need an immense arc to allow her that position.
We all know that having Jinbei join before Fishman Island happens is rather absurd. Having Hancock just leave without any closure is ridiculous. We all know that Margueritte leaving with Luffy is pointless, and several other situations...
However, until those things get cleared up, and become provided, why is it fair to even consider those characters "candidates" in the first place, and ignore Perona due to her "being" being beyond the norm? It just doesn't really make much sense, if you ask me...
Also, can you actually debate with me... :getlost:
A lot of Characters can join the crew NOW
Then you add reason and the list starts to drop; basically, if you reach a dead end, that character isn't probable to joining.
Since you are a dreadful poster, select those 'any' and I will offer something that leaves little support to allow 'em to join!
@JERK:
If you think WIERD AND FUANNY is reason enough to close your eyes and pick a random background character with zero depth and personality you're too dumb for this thread.
Actually I'm not even gonna try anymore, the doomsday clock is ticking and that's all I need.
Yeah of course I'm dumb. It's seems that if someone has a different idea than you , he has to be dumb.
I don't see how Perona is random, or has zero personality.
You don't pay attention to the core argument. Much you have to learn greenhorn.
You don't pay attention to the core argument. Much you have to learn greenhorn.
You mean the core argument of: "We don't like her."?
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hey guys wanna hear my theory
i think perona's a good character, so she'll join da strawhat crew!!!!
it'll be totally randum, and so like oda!!!
Someone post that picture where Kuma (Mozgus) is smashing Perona's head in with his bible.
You don't pay attention to the core argument. Much you have to learn greenhorn.
mmmm… and what is the core argument???
First I just gave my opinion, which is I THINK that Perona would make a good crewmate. But since some oldtimer doesn't like that character or that idea, I should shut up and move on?? Sorry, a thread is made for debate nothing else, what would be the point if everybody would agree with each other.
I don't really understand how she is a bad character... ( if I had to choose between her and vivi the choice wouldn't be hard )
Again being fun has a lot to do with joining. Seriously what is Usopp use apart being a joke factor???
No need to be patronizing with me... ( much you have to learn???? baaaa )
And I believe that a past and a character development can still happened with this one.
Did you read what zephos posted?
I can't recall any posts made by him that actually has another argument than "Perona sucks" or "Perona supporters are retarded", so perhaps you could specify which one of them exactly?
Next nakama is gonna be Jinbei…
PS. Why doesnt this forum have any good topics??
I can't recall any posts made by him that actually has another argument than "Perona sucks" or "Perona supporters are retarded", so perhaps you could specify which one of them exactly?
This:
@JERK:
If you think WIERD AND FUANNY is reason enough to close your eyes and pick a random background character with zero depth and personality you're too dumb for this thread.
Actually I'm not even gonna try anymore, the doomsday clock is ticking and that's all I need.
And if you don't let your fan ego blind your eyes you will easily get what he wants you to recognize. It's not that hard.
mmmm… and what is the core argument???
First I just gave my opinion, which is I THINK that Perona would make a good crewmate. But since some oldtimer doesn't like that character or that idea, I should shut up and move on?? Sorry, a thread is made for debate nothing else, what would be the point if everybody would agree with each other.
I never told you to shut up. I just told you to understand zephos posts. Which you clearly didn't.
I don't really understand how she is a bad character… ( if I had to choose between her and vivi the choice wouldn't be hard )
I don't know… compared to usopp she is just above a random guy in shabondy island character wise?
Again being fun has a lot to do with joining.
Probably. But being fun isn't really a convincing argument. There are many other characters who are fun in one piece. Also tell me what made you think that she is funny?
Seriously what is Usopp use apart being a joke factor???
ignore everything about usopp only to fart white noise lines
And I believe that a past and a character development can still happened with this one.
Which can be said about many other characters in one piece. So again: What makes perona so special.
Maybe you're a fan of goth lolitas?