Sengoku and Garp
under him,admirals and other marines
title:Sengoku the strategist
Volume 58 Thread
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Blackbeard and crew
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If it has Chater 574 in it, I want Ace and Luffy on it, if not then I'd like the opposite to Vol. 57.
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A little early , don't ya think .
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Ace's death will probably happen in volume 59
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I'm gonna agree with the idea that 58's gonna "mirror" 57, much like 22 was to 21 or (to a lesser extent) 43 to 42. So… :
Title: The Times They Are A-Changin'
Chapters: 563-573
Color: Marine colors (White and Light Blue)
Cover: Mirrored like 57 - The execution platform is in the background in color, with Ace on his knees, shackled, and Garp and Sengoku standing on each side. Then, the 3 Admirals stand below them, in color, and below them are the VAs and the Shichibukai, in monochrome. Finish it off with the symbol in the background of everything (like the whitebeard symbol was in 57)…however, I can't decide if the WG symbol or the Marine symbol would fit (I'm leaning more towards the Marine symbol, since it's Marineford)... -
Vol. 58 won't contain Ace's death, the chapters in Vol. 57 are 552-560/561 (I'm not sure if it's nine or ten chapters), so Vol. 58 should contain chapters 561/562-569/570, so my guess for the titles would be "Everyone's Got Just One Heart".
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Sengoku Garp
Ao Kiji Akainu Kizaru
Luffy -
Sengoku big ass head.
All the shichbukai Admirals and Named characters on his side.
Just 57 just the opposite side.
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Now that I think about it, It probably will have sengoku's head(mirroring volume 57) along with the 3 admirals, vice admirals and every force the marines have. Ace on the execution platform will probably be where Luffy is on volume 57.
I'm guessing it'll be called "The Man Who Shakes the World" The cover will be blue, the same blue as the New world Captains on Vol. 57, and the Marine forces will be white(the color of the background of vol. 57). -
Yeah, a Sengoku styled like Whitebeard with Marines below, with maybe Garp where Luffy is.
Likewise I think we can assume 59 might have a Shichibukai styled one, unless Oda decides it needs an Ace homage type cover.
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Vol. 58 won't contain Ace's death, the chapters in Vol. 57 are 552-560/561 (I'm not sure if it's nine or ten chapters), so Vol. 58 should contain chapters 561/562-569/570, so my guess for the titles would be "Everyone's Got Just One Heart".
But the chapters have less pages D:,
552: 19
553: 17
554: 15
555: 19
556: 17
557: 17
558: 17
559: 17
560: 17
561: 1718 pages less than usual (Going by 19 pages per Chapter), so it might go to 562.
562: 17
563: 17
564: 17
565: 17
566: 19
567: 19
568: 15
569: 16
570: 15
571: 17
169 pages… Also too little.
I'm guessing they'll have 1-2 chapters more than usual (10) -
I think they confirmed that volume 57 had 11 chapters. So volume 58 will start on chapter 563, and I'm guessing will have 11 chapters also and end on chapter 673. The chapter before the "big" chapter.
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Title: Marine Incompetency Part 1
Cover: Sengoku giving another "Oh, crap" face while the three admirals look like badasses in their thrones. Garp's standing next to them, with what's left of the Warlords being spread out everywhere. -
Hoping the title will be The Times They Are A-Changin'
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Title: Geg
Chapters: Geg-Geg
Characters: Geg, Geg, Geg, and Geg -
Volumes, from what I've observed, always have a set amount of pages, including all the filler pages (Table of Contents, Character profiles, SBS, artwork, interviews, etc), and they come in values of:
- 192 pages
- 200 pages
- 208 pages
- 216 pages
- 224 pages
- 232 pages
If Volume 58 ended with 11 chapters (563-573), it would have nearly 210+ pages including all the filler stuff (185p for chapters + 25p of filler)
So, if they were to add one more chapter (574), it would probably bring the volume's page count to roughly 227+ pages, which would still fit a typical volume page count (232 being the most). This would bring a nice ending/cliffhanger to the volume, with the last chapter being the one that Ace dies in, rather than with 573 (where Ace gets magma punched)….
...however, this would also bring the volume's chapter count to 12, an amount we haven't yet seen in a volume to date…. so, here's hoping...
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according to my chapter calculations
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I think they confirmed that volume 57 had 11 chapters. So volume 58 will start on chapter 563, and I'm guessing will have 11 chapters also and end on chapter 673. The chapter before the "big" chapter.
One heck of a volume .
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I think we can all agree that it'll most likely be titled "The name of this era is 'Whitebeard'".
I'm hoping for a reverse of Volume 57 with Sen Goku's giant head in the BG and a chained up Ace to replace Luffy.
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i think ending with ace`s death would be the perfect ending (the best ever so far) for a volume…
but we will see if oda gives us such an end.. -
I hope the 17/15 page chapters certains the chapter number at 11. :)
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I realy hope for a Sengoku cover .
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I think it's plausible, since the last cover was devoid of Marines.
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You think we could get a mirror image with him in place of Whitebeard ? Like the Sh's/BW or SH's/CP9 mirror covers ?
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Most likely
A stern SenGoku staring at us above a line up of the 3 Admirals, 5 Warlords, and hopefullly some of the Giant Attack Squad.
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I think we will get the three admirals, Sengoku and Garp in the cover.
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Title: The Name of this Era is "Whitebeard"
Cover: Huge Sengoku-face, and under him Garp, Tsuru, the three admirals, the Shichibukai, Coby, Momonga etc. all in blue and Ace in the middle in color. Ace is in his "gonna be executed" pose (kneeing).Goes to chapter 579 (The Name of this Era is "Whitebeard"), that would be 11 chapters and would have a great cliffhanger.
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Goes to chapter 579 (The Name of this Era is "Whitebeard"), that would be 11 chapters and would have a great cliffhanger.
Even I think that's a bit optimistic. :P
Anybody know when this is due, btw?
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Even I think that's a bit optimistic. :P
Anybody know when this is due, btw?
Lol i think he means 573 which has that chap title
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hmmm, Volume 58: Chapter 563-572 (10 Chapters)
Title: The Man who Shakes The World/The Times They Are A Changin' -
Even I think that's a bit optimistic. :P
Anybody know when this is due, btw?
@Gia:
Lol i think he means 573 which has that chap title
Oops, yeah of course I meant Chapter 573. Akainu fisting Ace would make an awesome cliffhanger and we all know Oda loves great cliffhangers for his chapters.
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See as how this arc is selling like hotcakes I can see them pushing back the death to 59.
Plus that would make more sense as the end of this volume would be the young Luffy/Ace flashback. -
Oda reduced the page number so that does add one chapter.
10 chapters is kind of short…it's the equivalent of a 9 chapter volume before he reduced page count.
So I think we can expect at least 11 chapters to compensate for at least volmes 58 and 59.
Now, the question is, will Oda add a 12th chapter to volume 58, making it as long as volumes 23, 29, 33, 34, 37, 40, 41, 44, 48, 49, and 51, which are all 232 pages.
It would be the perfect end to the volume to end on 574 rather than 573.
563 - 573 would mean volume 59 goes from 574 - 584....563 - 574 would mean volume 59 goes from 575 - 585.
Either way...
Color: Blue
Characters: sengoku, Admirals, Vice Admirals, Maybe Smoker; Would be cool to see Luffy and Ace back to back or in the fighting stance like when they briefly teamed up and fought together in the foreground with Sengoku and the Marines (and maybe Marine HQ) in the background.
Title: The Times They Are A-Changin'
Chapters: 563 - 574At least that's what I'm hoping for.
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^Sadly, Oda was restricted from doing that anymore… :sad:
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I just checked the chapters, and if they would add Chapter 574 to Volume 58 it would be 202 pages (without counting SBS etc.) That would be possible, right?
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Hmmmmm, anime is on chapter 544 now - so it's only about a month and a half untill 550, i.e. 6-7 episodes… And 58 is going to be out on June 4th...
So the only option of possibly having Akainu with right colours is for anime to put mugiwara adventure fillers between ID and war episodes... Hmmmm~ -
As soon as 57 came out I thought that 58 would be a mirror of it.
My prediction is that Whitebeard will be replaced by Sengoku
Coloured Luffy will be replaced by coloured Ace on a platform
and instead of all the pirates running there will be marines standing up tall.The Times They Are A Changin' would be an amazing title for the volume
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^Sadly, Oda was restricted from doing that anymore… :sad:
You're forgetting that these are smaller chapters. No more 19-pagers. It's not a chapter limit he has to abide to, but a page limit.
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This is exatly the same discussion that we had in volume 57 prediction thread…..
And we had the answer in this volume. 11 chapters are ok because chapters are shorter. 12 chapters: no. 10 chapters: maybe. 11 chapters: probably -
But the chapters in volume 57 had a few 19 page chapters and mostly 17 page chapters. In volume 58 there are no 19 page chapters and mostly 15 page chapters. It works out to 202 pages of manga like the person before said w/ 12 chapters in volume 58. Counting SBS, it would probably go up to 216 pages which was the number for volume 57.
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Half evil bump, we are 2 weeks away from june 4th, we should be getting the cover around next week.
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Half evil bump, we are 2 weeks away from june 4th, we should be getting the cover around next week.
2 weeks as in… 3 weeks?
Ah, whatever. Gonna be nice to see new cover. ;)
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No, two weeks as in five years.
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anger rising @ pointless bump
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Why Greg I thought you knew better .
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Bump .
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57's volume cover is my favorite, to date. I've never rushed out so fast to pick up a copy. I'm really curious as to how 58 will look.
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Double vol. pickup when this comes out
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From ohana:
ワンピ58巻 6月4日発売
ガープ センゴク 三大将って表紙に書いてある。I think the text talks about the cover (Garp, Ace, Sengoku and 3 admirals), but I´m not sure about it.