Next Crew Member Speculation (Ver 3.0)

[brennen.exe]

Alright, after running things by Battle Franky, I (regretfully) decided I would create a new thread for a "fresh start". Plain and simple, like all its predecessors, discuss who you think has a chance of joining, when the next character might join, what you think about current-arc support characters, and the likes. Keep it fair, keep it polite, and please please PLEASE follow the forums rules for posting and spoilers. With that said, I will start the thread with a few recent thoughts that came to mind about Jinbei:

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@brennen.exe:

Feel free to dip me in tar, throw feathers on me, and then light me on fire for saying this, but– Given Jinbei's build-up over the years, his comparison in "stature" to Arlong (who we know isn't incredibly powerful), the fact that he was captured and thrown in jail, the fact that he is a fishman, the seemingly possible fact that he no longer has a crew, the fact that Luffy essentially did was Fisher Tiger did (I presume Jinbei idolized Fisher Tiger), and the high chance that Luffy will break him out of prison lead anyone to believe he might actually be the next nakama? I mean, sure, I have said in the past that a Shichibukai would overshadow Luffy's position as captain, but that was when we were talking about Hancock, who I felt had other reasons behind that. No, I am not saying JINBEI 4 NAKAMA!?!#@#?@$@BBQ!#@1!? Rather, does anyone else find it to be a possibility that given Jinbei's stance on the war, the fact that he would need to be released from the prison, the fact that the crew is still short two people, the fact that Fishman island is next, and a few other things that Jinbei might be a contender for the position?

@brennen.exe:

Keep in mind I have no current "desire" for Jinbei to join (especially since he is still so mysterious), and I am not saying he should join or that it would be cool if he did. Given that, for the sake of discussion let me give the basic reasons why I considered it:

• Jinbei (I assume) idolized or looked up to Fisher Tiger for who he was and what he did. Luffy just did essentially the same thing to the Tenryuubito, and would now be breaking Jinbei out of prison to save Ace and (indirectly) stop the war that Jinbei was obviously "going wild" about.
• Jinbei is a Shichibukai, yes, but we do not know exactly how strong he is. The crew definitely needs more powerhouses, and a Fishman is a great choice if you ask me. Jinbei was compared (perhaps outdated and unfair) to Arlong in terms of social standing, so I am going to assume Jinbei is more like Moria/Crocodile/Hancock level strength rather than Blackbeard/Mihawk. Pure speculation, but enough to assume that he might not be much (if at all) stronger than Zoro and Sanji. In fact, I think he would be a nice addition to the top tier, having infamy similar to Zoro's "Pirate Hunter" past. And of course Sanji has something similar, being the apprentice of 'Red Leg' Zeff and having his own similar title now ('Black Leg' Sanji). Not to mention that – while we don't really know the circumstances -- he was caught and thrown into Impel Down against his will when he went on his rampage. If he can get caught, I cannot imagine him being godly like some people make him out to be.
• I assume – due to the terms for becoming a Shichibukai for him and the splitting of Arlong and co -- that by now Jinbei has no active crew. Given that, he is essentially a one man deal, so (again) were Luffy to break him out of prison and let him know what is going on I can definitely see him (at least) helping Luffy out until the end of the arc. At the end of the arc, he would learn they were heading to Fishman Island and would probably offer up to be a guide since Hachi is injured still.
• Assuming again that he assists Luffy at all, his title as Shichibukai would be stripped. Combine that with Luffy's goals, past actions, current actions, next destination, ultimate goal, and stance with the WG I can see him "looking up to" Luffy in the same way he once looked up to Fisher Tiger. Add that to his lack of crew and status, and why not!?
• Jinbei must have a sad past (as a slave?), and could easily have a flashback. More Fisher Tiger anyone?
• Jinbei would be another role to help complete the whole Tenryuubito ordeal. Especially since we know Hancock will need to return to her island after the "War" and would lose her position if she were spotted assisting Luffy.
• Aside from the Tenryuubito issue, if Jinbei joined or helped guide the SHP's through FI, he could also be the main conflict in that arc. Some issue with the locals and who he is and such. Though I would assume he would be respected, you never know considering he "sided" with the Government for years as a Shichibukai.
• Assuming Jinbei is the 'Martin Luther King' type, and thus wants to smooth things over between Human and Fishman, his dream could be to show that they can coexist together by traveling with Luffy. (A stretch, but I thought I would toss it in).

@brennen.exe:

I still think that if any human has a chance of smoothing things over between any Fishman/men, it's Luffy. Not only because Luffy is who he is, but also because he immitated (well, not intentionally) Fisher Tiger by knocking the Tenryuubito down a peg or two, but also by openly opposing the WG and now infiltrating Impel Down (similar to scaling Red Line for Fisher Tiger) despite the insane odds against him. 'Course, Luffy is a dumbass and Fisher Tiger was likely a smart guy, but given the opportunity anyone can see Luffy has a heart of gol…d. I could see Jinbei befriending him for those reasons (plus Luffy freeing him from prison, plus his war-opposing notion to save Ace), and then becoming the conflict at Fisman Island because he took sides with the WG as Shichibukai and then shows up with a group of Human cronies.

@brennen.exe:

I did always assume that Yosaku's statement about Jinbei's status and "letting Arlong loose" was meant to show that Jinbei forsook his crew (Arlong included) in order to gain his status with the WG. That would piss off the Fishman community (Arlong included) a good amount, and it would make perfect sense too. If the WG takes away the current leader (Jinbei, formerly Fisher Tiger) of the Fishman Pirates, who are a beacon of hope for the Fishman community, and in doing so makes the agreement under the condition that he leave his crew behind, then they successfully break up that "beacon of hope" and no longer have to worry that much about the Fishman community rising up against them more. Given the natural strength of the Fishman community, that would have been a large accomplishment. So making Jinbei Shichibukai gives them more strength, breaks up a troublesome pirate crew, dissipates any building hope or strength the Fishmen might have had, and forces Arlong to seek out a weaker zone to terrorize since he lost a lot of his backbone (Jinbei and such).

@brennen.exe:

Here is what we know:

@Stephen's:

Yosaku: The problem is one of those Seven Armed Seas. The leader of the Fishman Pirates, "Jinbeh"!! In exchange for Jinbeh's participation in the Seven Armed Seas, he has set someone terrible loose in East Blue […] known as "ARLONG"!!!

@Stephen's:

Rayleigh: Hachi helped me out when I was stranded at sea, over 20 years ago. […] We were good pals, up until he joined the Pirates of the Sun.

@Stephen's:

Hancock: Tiger formed the "Pirates of the Sun" out of ex-slaves and left the area! What you most likely mistook for my symbol was in fact the sun mark of the fishman pirates.

So, given that:

• Jinbei was captain of the Fishman Pirates (read: "Pirates of the Sun")
• Jinbei must have been captain over Arlong since he was "let loose" as a term.
• The Fishman Pirates (of the sun) were likely disbanded when Jinbei became Shichibukai, as a term of joining, and thus some of the ex-crew joined with Arlong and sought out easier waters since they lost a lot of their power.
• The Fishmen probably have some enmity towards Jinbei for doing that.
• My theory checks out.

@brennen.exe:

While I don't disagree that the "complicated battle history" Yosaku mentions might very well mean that Jinbei and Arlong butted heads, Yosaku says that part of Jinbei's terms were to let Arlong go. That's why I think it would make perfect sense if the WG thought they could kill two birds with one stone by eliminating the threat that Jinbei and the Fishmen give off by inspiring other Fishmen, while at the same time dispersing their crew entirely. In fact, I will expand on this by "theorizing" further about Jinbei: If Jinbei were a more 'Martin Luther King' Fishman, then perhaps he thought he could ease the tension between Humans and Fishmen by cooperating with the World Government. This would probably be misconstrued by his ex-crew as being a sellout, but perhaps he did it nonetheless in those hopes. That attitude would be reflected in not only his decision to not participate in the war, but also Sengoku's response. Where Sengoku might have assumed he would be all for the "cooperation", he didn't factor in that Jinbei would have wanted it to be made without spilling the blood of someone else (Whitebeard). Of course, that is all just a stab in the dark. I think we are taking this theorizing a little far, but I think most of the base speculation on this has enough information to at least be worth thinking on.

Edit: Oh snap! Jinbei's dream could be to show the world that Man and Fish(man) can coexist! O_O

@brennen.exe:

@Chapter:

Jinbei: Ain't nobody runnin' away, a'ight?!!!

@Chapter:

Jinbei: It ain' my body as hurts, Ace-san…......!!!

@Chapter:

Jinbei: I'll tell ya what's really hurtin'….!!! It's my heart... it's burstin' to deal out justice!!! My Shichibukai title be damned. I'd toss it out in an instant!!! I'd gladly give my own life if it meant puttin' an end to this fighting!!!

Confirmation he is still adamantly opposed to the war. Confirmation he is human-friendly; or at least can be. Confirmation he definitely still wants to take action, just not in cahoots with the WG/Marines. He is willing to throw away his title and status if it meant the chance to deal out justice. If he is willing to give his life for that and willing to give up his position, then surely he would have no issue with being released from prison and then following or assisting a guy who is opposing the WG and aiming to be the Pirate King, knocked in a few Tenryuubito heads, is friends with another Fishman, and busted into a prison to save his brother. Among other things. Not to mention he has a lower bounty – albeit frozen -- than Luffy's.

@brennen.exe:

Jinbei might have risen to the ranks of Captain and even Shichibukai, but right now he is locked in prison without a crew and title. He has fallen from what he might have had, and if anything his introduction is reminiscent of Zoro's. Remember Zoro already had a name for himself and fame enough to instill fear and or knowledge of "Pirate Hunter" Zoro all the way to Arabasta. Robin? Robin's name still puts fear into people; "The Demon of Ohara", and she was wanted and hated by the WG/Marines. Brook? ex-Captain with a bounty on his head; though old, he had established his own place in the world, so to speak. Franky was just as much a gangster as Jinbei might be, and was an actual enemy when he was introduced; not to mention he was apprentice to the world's greatest shipwright and was well known on Water 7. I thought that by now it was clear that there is no established theme outside flashback, sad past, dream, and unique trait / design / personality / style. I don't see how Jinbei would fall out of any of those categories. Well, granted he doesn't exactly have all of those established yet, he is well in line for them all.

@brennen.exe:

@Chapter:

[Dragon's Hideout; Example: Reputation]
Revolutionary: That's Straw Hat Luffy. The guy responsible for taking out Crocodile in Alabasta, as well as the latest Enies Lobby news. His crew's gotten so big, the government can't hide them anymore.

@Chapter:

[Saboady Amusement Park; Example: Looks]
People: {Look at that…It's Straw Hat Luffy, from East Blue!!}

^^ An example that Luffy and his crew are known all over the world for their reputation and that even regular people recognize their looks. There are a ton more, but those are two simple examples off the top of my head. The Shichibukai might have years of infamy and fear behind them, but the Strawhats have a ridiculously huge combined bounty – everyone on the crew has a bounty -- with two members over 100mil. Not to mention Luffy's bounty is higher than most of the Shichibukai. I'm not saying that he is more scary or more renowned, just that in any given place he is -- as far as we know -- just as likely to be recognized as any Shichibukai, if not feared as well. If not for having a crazy ass crew, then for having huge bounties and having done crazy ass things like single handedly destroying a huge fortified Marine island/base. In short, having someone like Jinbei join might have seemed crazy years ago, but having him join with their current fame wouldn't be that big of a deal. Luffy could easily become a Shichibukai with his current fame and power -- I mean, he did take out two already – and has goals to be the Pirate King, so having someone of Jinbei's caliber makes sense. Again, Jinbei joining couldn't be at a more perfect time since Luffy has now taken down two Shichibukai, made strong impressions with two other Shichibukai, and seduced yet another Shichibukai. Having one of the last ones join his ranks – the last introduced, to boot -- because he lost his title, was stuck in prison, and still had goals to accomplish makes good sense and good timing, and adds to the fame and influence that "Straw Hat" Luffy has.

@MagneticMonkey:

We need to see what Jimbei's dream is. If we take the fact that he loves humans and hate wars and say that his dream is to stop the hate between the fishmen and the humans, and also take care of the slavery and stuff like that then i must say that his dream is not (IMO) enough to be a SH. Every SH has a unique dream which make them travel the whole GL.

Very true, but first you have to think about what intentions Jinbei might have had for joining the WG. If Jinbei's dreams are that, then likely he joined the Shichibukai to show the world that a fishman could work alongside them in a peaceful manner. If that isn't working out, then why not show the world by being part of the next Pirate King's crew? Travel the world and show people that you can live alongside humans just the same. Surely that news would spread as they travel. That's just my guess though. All of that is pure speculation and hypothesis.

[/hide][hide]Old 'Nakama'-related threads; learn from mistakes, no lockie:

• Franky VS Paulie
• Franky VS Paulie II
• Characters that Should've Joined
• Is Brook gonna join?
• SHP Future Nakama
• Too soon for another Nakama?
• The Next Nakama (Ver 2)
• Others I Cannot Be Bothered To Find

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PS: DON'T LEAK SPOILERS!!

[Clerical]

So I read somewhere that somewhere Oda said that an old enemy would join the crew. This lead a lot of people to think it was Buggy. That said I find it interesting that there is one old enemy that Luffy is about to run into that no one has mentioned.

Sir Crocodile.

Old Enemy. Check
Tragic Past. But redeemed villain is slightly tragic, being a former baddie and all.

Not saying I think it will happen, just that I've never noticed anyone say it could happen.

p.s.

Joined the boards to make this post. Hi.

[d.Lughie]

I disagree about Crocodile joining. Not because he was a shichibukai but mainly because he has the same goal as Luffy in becoming a Pirate King. If for some reason Crocodile would change his desire in becoming the Pirate King, it would be a total failure of his character IMO.

I do not complain if shichibukai joins the crew. I don't mind having another strong character in the crew to join the top-tier of Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. They'd need it for the New World. I am hoping for another female member and a fishman, therefore I am rooting for Hancock and Jinbei to join them. On the downside, there would be no significant power-ups for these characters since they are already crazy strong. However,I think the possibility of both of them joining is next to nothing.

That being said, I still want another female character and a fishman to join the crew. I can forgive Oda if a female character is not his option, but I would be very disappointed if the crew does not have a fishman.

[Zik]

So I read somewhere that somewhere Oda said that an old enemy would join the crew.

LIES!!!!!!!!! The start of this statement is quite humorous

Well if an old enemy does join I'll bet half my money on Gin(if he hasn't created or joined his own badass crew). Buggy is not gonna join for obvious reasons. I'm sure some ppl will say Hachi since he's a fishman but I hope not, he's just not a good fit overall. Other than that any past enemy would be a complete surprise…..

Jinbei still seems like a long shot, I wouldn't be opposed to him joining but like I said I prefer his badassness as a loner for now. I'm hoping Oda makes him the best shichibukai(saving the best for last) when it comes to w/e plan he may have to achieve _____, his reasons for rebelling against the WG/marines, etc. Seeing as none of us know much about him there's no specific way I feel about him being a SH. Oh and he can still befriend Luffy escorting him to SA w/o joining.

@brennen why do you regret making this thread? It was bound to come back(I happened to figure it would some time this new year).

Anyway hopefully this thread contains more new and fresh ideas for jobs, dreams, and overall character types for nakama.

Oh and ppl should keep in mind there's an expectation for 2 more nakama so no need to argue over that......

[Moria]

I really doubt Jimbei's joining… but still that would be fucking awesome.

[The Iceman]

Yo Bon Clay FOR THE WIN.

-He is already considered a friend by Luffy.
-He's in Impel Down, so why wouldn't Luffy break him out?
-He got along great with ussopp and chopper that time

I put foot for Bon Clay.

Second I nominate Slivers, someone will have to teach Luffy to control his Haki, and lets face it having Slivers on your crew is a plus.

plus Slivers has already been seen helping that strawhats. He could be like a guide to them.

[Captain Josh]

Mr 3 for Nakama, I personally think he is an awesome character.

[Luffy Batter]

HANCOCK FOR NAKAMA!!! I said it here first

[Rhaknar]

@The:

Yo Bon Clay FOR THE WIN.

-He is already considered a friend by Luffy.
-He's in Impel Down, so why wouldn't Luffy break him out?
-He got along great with ussopp and chopper that time

I put foot for Bon Clay.

Second I nominate Slivers, someone will have to teach Luffy to control his Haki, and lets face it having Slivers on your crew is a plus.

plus Slivers has already been seen helping that strawhats. He could be like a guide to them.

i just saw that ep last night, been rewatching the show… I love Mr.2, but who would voice him in the anime with Franky in the crew?

oh and for new nakama... I really have no idea. I thought Camie or Hachi at the start of this arc, but they are gone now, then I thought Hancock just for the lol factor (and also because I really think the next member should be a higher tier like luffy/zoro/sanji... and whats higher tier than a shichibkai), but now I really have no clue... I would love Buggy, even tho I know everybody would hate that. Maybe its not luffy that invites a new nakama, but one of the other crewmembers spread around the world. Who knows

[Aniki]

A Shichibukai for nakama would be awesome, although we still don't know much about Jinbei (hell we haven't even seen him yet!) he has had a large led up…hes gotta be a wicked character. More people will be passing there judgments after his apperance for sure.

Then theres Hancock...theres alot of debate about her, especially regarding the well being of her island Amazon Lily. I personally think she would be a great addition to the crew considering:

**-**Her fun personallity! The whole looking down on people, kicking cute animals plus now doing anything for Luffy and assume he deeply loves her….Great Addition.

**-**The severity of Love Sickness which has killed her predasesors (Except Elder Nyon) could basically mean without Luffy she could die. I'm sure if Luffy was aware of this he have her join the crew

-If what some people have said about Luffy needing to learn more about Haki is a strong importance shes right up there as someone who could do it. Yet knowing Luffy he will probably figure it out for himself anyway.

But I guess that the SH's are in need of another female character. Now it's 2 females and 7 men, this may not be of a big deal to some but there are those who believe a balance of the sexes is important especially a strong female character so she fits in well in my opinion.

[Zkaiser]

Ugh….I've got the "If Hancock joins, I'm going to fly to Japan, find Oda, kidnap his wife, and put a gun to his head until he retcons that shit and makes Buggy win against the unknown Yonkou in a fair fight" Disease.

[Seroga]

Boa for the strawhats!

[17hz]

a second division for strawhats!

[jack1000]

I really want Boa to join though I'm ok with Jinbei. And Jinbei has the same probablity of joining as Hancock does. So we'll just have to wait for more chapters. Hancock's reasons for joining are obvious. Jinbei could join because he's being hyped up right from the arlong park arc and a fishman would make a nice addition to the crew. A really really awesome twist would be vegapunk joining. I still think that there is much more to Vegapunk than it seems. He could be a crazy old scientist with an appetite for adventure. His motive could be reaching Raftel to do his research

[bugiipoppu]

Jinbei won't join. Probably help them out, but will NOT join. He's too powerful. As for Boa, I'm not sure.I'm ambivalent about her joining. But no. Jinbei won't join. e_e He's a Kuma or Rayleigh. Helping out, but not joining.

[Luffy Batter]

@Zkaiser:

Ugh….I've got the "If Hancock joins, I'm going to fly to Japan, find Oda, kidnap his wife, and put a gun to his head until he retcons that shit and makes Buggy win against the unknown Yonkou in a fair fight" Disease.

You say Hancock joining the Straw Hats is stupid yet you want Buggy to beat a Yonkou in a fair fight?

[Zkaiser]

It's more like if I have Oda write Boa out of the crew then something equally stupid has to take it's place.

Mermaid Princess for Strawhat.

[Crossword]

Oh joy, this again.

Well, to add my piece, as I've repeated on numerous instances, my wishlist for the next two Straw Hats is a female fighter and a Fishman. I do not believe that Hancock will join for a bunch of reasons that I've repeated over and over in the past, and her line last chapter about being able to ''Die happy.'' after misreading Luffy's lips leads me to believe that she's not going to be dependant on Luffy to survive this ''diesease'' as she was previously.

Jimbei, I do not think will join either. He's a whale-shark Fishman, so logic dictates that he's going to be big, at least Kuma size, so he wouldn't be able to fit on board the Thousand Sunny. On a more serious note, I find it more likely that he has a similar mindset as most Fishmen we've seen have: that humans are inferior and so on, since he used to command characters like Arlong, Kuroobi, and Chu.

I don't think anyone from Impel Down will join either, but instead briefly band together until they get out of there, and go their separate ways.

[Luffy Batter]

@Zkaiser:

It's more like if I have Oda write Boa out of the crew then something equally stupid has to take it's place.

Mermaid Princess for Strawhat.

Oh come now, you must admit that you are severely exaggerating here:/

@Crossword, Isn't it about time you change your avatar?

[Crossword]

@Luffy:

@Crossword, Isn't it about time you change your avatar?

The Wise Men haven't gotten to the stable yet (I think)! Christmas season isn't over just yet! Serious answer is that the picture for my old avatar is on my laptop, and I haven't gotten a chance to bring it over to the home computer.

[Luffy Batter]

@Crossword:

The Wise Men haven't gotten to the stable yet (I think)! Christmas season isn't over just yet! Serious answer is that the picture for my old avatar is on my laptop, and I haven't gotten a chance to bring it over to the home computer.

Meh, if it makes you feel any better, no one actually knows the true date of Jesus's birth and 25th was merely chosen out of convenience. So keeping that avatar isn't technically incorrect since any day could be the true Christmas

[Judgement's Shadow]

I read somewhere that Oda mentioned an old figure from Alabasta returning, but it might've just been a hint of the Baroque Works in Impel Down…

[Moria]

I think we should all just come to a common agreement that Boa isn't joining, considering Oda isn't a moron.

Agreed?

[Kedavra]

@Moria:

I think we should all just come to a common agreement that Boa isn't joining, considering Oda isn't a moron.

Agreed?

oh man,you're the best!agreed!

[akatsuki_the_devil]

A ex-shibukai will always be welcome in the pirate king crew… wait, but isn't Boa Hancock going to join already?

[Roronoa Hanzo]

I hope in a 3 more new nakamas: first and that's my dream Smoker , Ace and Hancock.At least one of them would be enought for me

[Vegapunk]

i think hancock or jinbei are my top choices in terms of characteristics and their value to the next arc or their contribution for the coming arcs (new world). it would be awesome if the new nakama is strong next to luffy and i think it should a serious type to add variety to the comedy of luffy, ussop, chopper, and brook. yohohohoho! :lol:

[ID28]

hachi is my top choice, he's a good guy and a fishman

[grunk]

I think he'll grab someone random in Impel Down.. noone Luffy has met since brook made him flip out like the last Nakama did though Boa still has a chance to if she fights.

[Zkaiser]

@Moria:

I think we should all just come to a common agreement that Boa isn't joining, considering Oda isn't a moron.

Agreed?

FUKKEN COSIGNED .

[brennen.exe]

@bugiipoppu:

Jinbei won't join. Probably help them out, but will NOT join. He's too powerful. But no. Jinbei won't join. Helping out, but not joining.

@Crossword:

Jinbei, I do not think will join either. He's a whale-shark Fishman, so logic dictates that he's going to be big, at least Kuma size, so he wouldn't be able to fit on board the Thousand Sunny. On a more serious note, I find it more likely that he has a similar mindset as most Fishmen we've seen have: that humans are inferior and so on, since he used to command characters like Arlong, Kuroobi, and Chu.

I figure I might as well defend my theory since I don't think it is worth writing off and we have no evidence to the contrary as of yet. Given that, what evidence do we have that says he is "too powerful"? All we know is he was "equal" with Arlong, that he was captain of the Fishman Pirates after Fisher Tiger, and that he is a Shichibukai. Moria was of equal standing with Kaidou and was also a pirate captain and Shichibukai, but I would wager he is no stronger in a fight than Zoro, Luffy, or even Sanji. While he might be large, even were he the size of Kuma he wouldn't be too big for the ship. At least, that would never hinder a new crew mate I think. As for the attitude he would have, the comment Sengoku, the splitting of Jinbei's crew, and his status as Shichibukai should show that he isn't the average Fishman in terms of politics and whatnot. Despite that, he must have admired Fisher Tiger, and like I said – Luffy just did essentially the same act as Fisher Tiger. Combine that with Luffy's declaring war against the WG, trying to stop Ace's death (and the war), and infiltrating Impel Down (indirectly freeing Jinbei) and I would say that the same respect for Fisher Tiger would be applied to Luffy. Not to mention helping Luffy in any way would mean his Shichibukai status is stripped from him, leaving him a wanted criminal without a crew. Remember, he was already caught and imprisoned once, so what are the chances he could avoid being caught again if he is alone?

[Luffy Batter]

@Moria:

I think we should all just come to a common agreement that Boa isn't joining, considering Oda isn't a moron.

Agreed?

However Boa joining wouldn't mean Oda is a moron but a genius therefore your declaration fails!!!

[grunk]

I think when they said Jinbei and Arlong were on the same level they meant politically in the Fishmen or it'll be like the one plot hole Oda's ever made I can think of.
Sengoku was pining about not having him to help.. why would he care if someone Arlong tier was there or not? There is tons of marines that are Arlong tier.

[RobinotX]

Damn I posted a giant theory, delete the stupid site it <_<

In short

The Trio

Luffy
Zoro
Sanji

Have weaker counterparts

Franky
Brook
????

Luffy and Franky can are both invulnerable against bullets, Franky only his front. Both use long range attacks. Franky uses guns, while Luffy names his attacks as guns.

Zoro and Brook both use swords. While Zoro is power and Brook based on agility.

Sanji uses only legs. Which would mean that we get someone who is based on fight with arms/hands. Someone stated an old enemy don't know if it is stated after Robin/Franky joined That could be Gin.
But because a fishman has to join. read I hope
Fishman –> Fishman Karate
Fishman could be Jinbei like some stated.

My thought in short about the next nakama thing:

The 2 spaces which are short, will be filled by: A girl/Fishman/Schichibukai
One will be a combination of it.

Girl + Schichibukai = Hancock
Fishman + Schichibukai = Jinbei
Girl + Fishman = Mermaid, which uses some sort of fighting style see Kokoro

More maybe later n_n

[Zik]

Damn this thread went downhill after my request in my last post lol….......

Hancock? Buggy? Hachi? Mr. 2 or 3? etc. are all lame choices imo......

It's gonna be a long hard year if there won't be a new nakama joining like I think and Oda most likely introduces more new characters.

No more good ideas? Were just shouting names for nakama? Fine

Tomato Gang For Nakama!!!!!

[.access timeco.]

I am almost 100% sure Buggy will join the SH by the end of ID arc. Of course, I am hoping for it to happen for like 1 year, so I can be biased in front of this recent posibility.

But, really, I can see no other reason for those scenes 2 chapters ago: (1) his crew giving up on trying to save him and (2) that guy on Momonga ship seeing their flag.

The (1) could be just to show how hard was to enter ID, but we always knew that… not to mention that Buggy pirates are among the weakest of the crews we know, so it's not like they giving up of something shows how dificult it is.
It probably wasn't just to enter the fact Buggy was in ID, since there was an officer saying Buggy escaped from his cell somes pages after that (so it would work as the first hint, making the Alvida scene kinda unnecessary).

The only reason I see is to show the fact that Buggy and his crew shared the "dream" of getting to Cap. John treasure together. The fact someone with Momonga saw it but didn't recognize was probably so Buggy can be aware that he was "left behind".

Theorizing (more like fanfic-ing), I would say that:

! near the end of the ID arc, Momonga group will meet with Luffy and Buggy. When that guy look at Buggy's face, he will go "That's it! Buggy the Clown! That was the flag I saw earlier… I said I knew it."
Buggy will be kinda O_O to know that his crew was there, but the guy will say that he saw the ship leaving ID, so someone will say that obviously they gave up on Buggy and left him to die.
Buggy will also admit it and will be somehow devastated because –REMOVED PART DUE TO SPOILERS, SORRY-- there is no meaning in getting C. John's treasure alone. Someone (a big figure in ID) will start laughing at Buggy's face saying how his crew was pitiful and that he now was alone and helpless. Luffy will then give one of his famous "GOMU GOMU SHUT UP PUNCH" in the guy's face and tell Buggy "So what? All you have to do is to meet with them again, so you can travel there together", but Buggy will reply that is impossible to meet someone like that in Grand Line since you can't navegate properly there, so it's not like you can track someone without knowing where they are beforehand.
Luffy would go with something like "So you just has to let them know you are alive and safe and let they know where to find you". Someone will say that is impossible, someone like Buggy can not become well known and it is likely that he will be unable to make his name spread through the world even if he tries his best. If his name doesn't reach every corner in the world, he can't be sure his former crew will know of him.
Luffy would then answer that if he just has to become famous, there would be no better place than if he is together with the Pirate King.
Buggy would then raise his head and look at Luffy when he says "I will be the Pirate King. So, will you come with me? Let's go to the top of this world, Buggy!". Buggy will remember Roger saying exactly the same words to him and then we would have some flashback about how Buggy was held captive by Cap. John in a time and Roger decided to give his greatest treasure so Buggy's life could be spared (Buggy would be really hostile to him back that time, but now he is trying to take Roger's treasure back... he told his crew about it at some point and everyone cried manly tears, swearing they would find the treasure someday).
! Yeah, I have a lot of time in my hands.

[RobinotX]

err Zik

I am not shouting names. I am only giving a theory if that could be happening.

The only one who you think would be lame is Hancock. Personally it would be great.

Buggy as a SH is lame. Buggy is a nice archrival nothing more..
But the chances he is going to join are getting higher…

[Moria]

Considering this thread is just a fucking dumpster for aborted predictions, I'll just spew out a few characters I would have liked to join

-Wiper
-Zeff
-Chou Chou
-Coby (Hey, he's pretty cool now)
-Dalton (we got to see almost none of that Bison Fruit, plus Rumble Ball Dalton would be badass)
-Mr. 2
-Dorry or Broggy (lol)
-Paulie
-Kaku (before he turned evil)

Pretty much it.

[Zik]

Some clarification is needed

err Zik

I am not shouting names. I am only giving a theory if that could be happening.

The only one who you think would be lame is Hancock. Personally it would be great.

Buggy as a SH is lame. Buggy is a nice archrival nothing more..
But the chances he is going to join are getting higher…

When I made my last post it was a blanket statement towards just about everyone in general. It wasn't directed towards you, so there was no need for you to respond to it as if you're the only person posting in this thread. This is for the ppl who clearly are doing what I said having posts with nothing to discuss about it, no explanation, etc. Frankly, it should be regarded as spam. On top of that when I made my post your post was not there or atleast I didn't read it. With that said:

Sanji uses only legs. Which would mean that we get someone who is based on fight with arms/hands. Someone stated an old enemy don't know if it is stated after Robin/Franky joined That could be Gin.
But because a fishman has to join. read I hope
Fishman –> Fishman Karate
Fishman could be Jinbei like some stated.

I actually like this part of your theory with the whole Luffy matching with Franky and then Zoro matching with Brook when it comes to nakama having similar fighting styles but on different levels.

I don't mind the Gin possibility either, he could've been roaming around the GL hopping from group/org/crew to group/org/crew or by himself and may join when the crew reunites at SA or maybe Gyojin island. I always liked his fighting style and he's one of the few ppl to whoop Sanji's ass in a fight and was arguable stronger than Luffy during that Baratie arc since Gin was/is stronger than lame ass Krieg.

The fishman karate would be a good counter match for Sanji's style but imo Sanji already proved it to be inferior to him when he beat that guy in Arlong park. This is not to say someone stronger couldn't come along who knows fishman karate but we got the gist of it then

I'd like to stress the nakama doesn't have to be a fishman could be a fishwoman or mermaid to satisfy the nakama who hails from the sea.

[Brooke]

Jimbei, Crocodile or Buggy, i don't give a damn who of them, but i wish one of them joins at least!

[grunk]

I'm still banking if there's a new character soon it'll be someone fuckwin from ID..

There is going to be a plethora of awesome new characters introduced in the next few months so it's hard to look to the past for one with so many coming soon.. with that said what kind of character would fit into the crew now? And what of the old question of which kind of positions could be filled now? I think they need a hardcore anti-government dissident guy myself.

[onemoment]

The next SH will either be an old lady, a young woman similar to Nami or Vivi in age, or a young man similar to Sanji or Zoro or Luffy in age. The true pattern in SHs joining has been filling family roles. It's part of this long theory I have about how the SHs are a family system and how it effects who has joined and even their characters. Robin covers the role of "mother," and Franky covers the role of "father" even though Luffy is the leader of the ship. Brooke's the gramps, and everyone else is either a brother or sister. It'll take too long to go over how every SH fills this role, so I'll just cover Franky and Robin and hope everyone can figure how the rest fits. First, he's the oldest next to Brooke. As the shipwright he in a way owns the ship (or home) similar to the breadwinner of a family, despite not being captain. He's as strong as any of the other men in the crew, but due to their (zoro luffy etc) age, youth, and agility (or rather their fluid and versatile fighting styles) Franky is just out of their league similar to a father being overtaken by his older sons. And of course, Franky's flashback heavily features the theme of fatherhood. Similarly, Robin's flashback covers motherhood through its heavy focus on Robin's abandonment by her mother Olivia. I also dare say her personality is motherly. Look at her whenever the boys are doing something stupid. She laughs, similar to a mother enjoying watching her children play. She is also a constant source of advice thanks to her knowledge of the world, and I believe it's a cliche for children to ask their mother questions as opposed to the father. And I could go on, but I'll quickly point out Sanji and Zoro's rivalry. They are the two oldest brothers in the group, and as such are in constant competition for the role of top brother (Luffy meanwhile, is the middle child, which according to the cliche means he's a weird one right?). It's also a reason why they're the "strong trio," as in any family the oldest brothers tend to be the strongest.

So, that's my big theory. I would have liked to go over every aspect of how each SH fits into their family role, but this post is already too long as it is. But that's how I view any potential new crew mates. It has to been an old lady (grandma), or another brother or sister. Come to think of it, wasn't there something about the SHs as a family in an SBS?

And that is actually my major problem with Hancock joining. She seems to be about Robin's age, so it would break the family theme. We can't have two mothers now. I guess she could be an "aunt" but aunt's are technically members of a new family. So I don't think she'll join, unless we discover she's over 40 or something. In that case I'm all for it. But, the next time we see a cool old lady befriend the SHs, THAT'S who I'm banking will be the new member.

And to anyone who mentions Sanji's perversions towards Nami, or Hancocks perversions towards Luffy, remember, they aren't literally related.

[brennen.exe]

@grunk:

I think when they said Jinbei and Arlong were on the same level they meant politically amongst the Fishmen. Sengoku was pining about not having him to help.

I suggested as much before, and used quotes around the word for the same reason. I don't doubt that Jinbei is strong, which is why I made the comparison to Kaidou/Moria in my last post and my suggestion that he is equal to Moria/Hancock/Crocodile in terms of standing amongst the Shichibukai. What irks me is the over-glorified image Jinbei has since his name has existed for years and he has not yet been revealed in full. My point is that, while he very well might be ridiculously powerful, we have no idea whether or not he is. ALL we know is that he was on equal standing with Arlong, which was used as a way to instill fear into Sanji and Luffy, so at the least he shouldn't be leagues above Arlong. This is similar to Moria/Kaidou. They were once "equal", but we all know he will be stronger than Moria. But leagues? The once-comparison wouldn't make sense. As for Sengoku, he just wants all the help he can get. Surely Jinbei is more powerful than Arlong, no doubt. Like I said though, we do not know how much. He could very well be the weakest Shichibukai. Either way, he was taken down by the Marines and tossed in prison for now; it isn't a wonder that Sengoku would like the extra help he could give, but the fact that he was caught should speak for itself that he isn't godlike.

@Zik:

Damn this thread went downhill after my request in my last post.

It happens in all threads. This one has more potential though, which is why I "regretfully" opened it back up. It is meant for valid speculation with something of support behind the theory, so hopefully we get more of it. If not, locked it will become.

@Moria:

Considering this thread is just a fucking dumpster for aborted predictions, I'll just spew out a few characters I would have liked to join.

Just because a few people like to throw out their opinion like wildfire doesn't mean you have to join in and throw things off topic even more. If that's what you want, read the bottom of the first post and "learn from mistakes". A hint: Here is what you were looking for.

@RobinotX:

see Kokoro

No thanks. pukes

[.access timeco.]

Yeah, there was. Oda already stated long ago that everyone in the crew fits a family spot.
To complete the crew, I was hoping for an uncle (Buggy) and a grandmother (an old fishwoman… not mermaid, sry Kokoro). I am kinda sure an old woman will come at some point, I just hope she will actually look old.

[Crossword]

If you do the math based on the figures we got involving Hancock and her sisters being captured by slavers, her age comes out to 27.

[Zik]

^^^^Ummm I'm not sure about the reasons for why you put who as what in that family system theory but it sounds a lot like an answer Oda gave in an SBS where I think the question was something like "If the SHs were a family who would be what?" or something like that. This was asked before Brook joined I think so he wasn't included and basically Robin and Franky were the parents and everyone else were siblings in order of age.

I don't really see how it tells us who will be next nakama tho lol. I mean the current SHs "as a family" don't fit any other family model I've seen so I wouldn't know what else it needs. Unless you're saying Brook is the grandfather and they would need an old lady as grandmother. If anything I'd guess a little sister and since there's two more expected nakama add in another brother either in his 20s or Nami's age.

[grunk]

I'd rather they didn't get an old lady..that would kinda slow them down.. a 'grandpa' is enough.
They might be needing someone from the new world soon too. Someone that can help with new threats. Maybe even a level 6er.

[nicotorrent]

NO to the Old Lady. Who they need now is someone SUPER STRONG.

They're going to have to take on Yonkou's and more admirals when they reach the New World. Right now? They really only have Zoro & Luffy who can battle one-on-one. We need one/two more fighters like that who can take on someone super strong one-on-one. In that case, I can kind of see Hancock joining as the strong but "selfish" younger sister. The person who has a mean exterior but a real sensitive shell on the inside, you know? Jinbei can also serve as the "selfish" brother, who is mean to the younger brothers, but is generally a sweetheart, but it's less likely, I think. The main reasons why I think they are a plausible (not not necessarily likely) addition:

1. The SH need some STRONG strong fighters. Except Luffy and Zoro, the other members aren't really fighters. Sanji and Nico are strong, but they can't taken down an admiral/anything. We need a strong, famed character that can assist Luffy and Zoro in taking a major fighter. Jinbei/Hancock can take this role. But also, any fighters in Level 5/6. I think someone from Level 6 will play a key role in the stroy, but I think this person will be too old to join the SHs.

2. We need characters with substance/something anti-government. Someone who is politically charged. Hancock, for instance, has a history as being a slave and her goal can be making the world a slave-free place. Her goal doesn't have to deal with Luffy, but in fixing her tragic past. She wants to create a world safe for all people–and she can join the SH and achieve it. Same with Jinbei; his history isn't known, but there's probably reason why he's in jail.

However, some plots/questions that Oda's going to have to fix before allowing anybody, esp Hancock/Jinbei to join:

1. The fact that their loyalty will probably ONLY lie with Luffy--not the other SHs. All the SH are willing to risk their lives for Luffy and also, FOR EACH OTHER. Something's going to have to happen if Hancock joins that makes her trust/be willing to die with and for the other crew members. Same goes for Jinbei.
2. Also, people who are used be being ridiculously strong...are they going to take orders? Hancock loves Luffy so that can overcome her pride, but Jinbei's used to be being a LEADER himself. Is he going to follow orders?
3. And another thing if Hancock joins. If Hancock stops working with the Gov, Amazon Lily will be open to attacks. I think her sisters will be able to handle it, but something's going to have to happen that makes Hancock choose to travel with the SH instead of her family/island. Maybe a tearful scene where her sisters/people tell her she'll die otherwise, or that she needs to follow her dream of making the world a slave free place or something.

SO. Like I said before, Luffy needs a strong fighter if he wants to survive in the New World. As of right now, they don't have nearly enough fighters. I think they're going to get A STRONG fighter next who is on par with Zoro or Luffy (ie from Level 5 or 6, with a 80+ mil bounty). I think it'd be a girl, because Sanji and Zoro are the strongest male fighters, and they have alot of competition between them. An addition of a female fighter who ate a Gum Gum (like Hancock) would balance the gender dynamic and get rid of the idea that the girls are weak. But then again, another guy...who's just good at martial arts or something with another Devil Fruit..that sounds good too.

So in that respect, NO old people and NO BUGGY. Buggy's WEAK and would serve no purpose by being in the SH's. He'd be a weak addition, and would only cause drama. He'd be funny, but....I don't like weaklings.

[onemoment]

The SHs don't "need" a strong person. Whoever it is, whether Ace or Hancock, will job to enemies all the same. And Luffy will fight the boss.

Now Brooke, HE was a great addition to the crew and not for his relatively low strength. He's an experienced pirate who dedicated to the create, and it willing to give everything he has at a moments notice. Brooke's great, right? And in the future, it's guys like him that will make the difference. After all, hasn't it been speculated that the crew will get stronger? Perona, now despite her strength she'd sell out the crew when times get tough (yes, I hate Perona for nakama theories).

Anyway, my point is that character is important. With a strong character, strength will come. So no, the SHs don't need to recruit the strongest guy in the area. That's dumb.

Also, I think people are underestimating how cool and old lady can be. Has everyone forgotten Dr. Kureha? Oda can surely make someone as cool as that again.

Edit: Oh yeah nicotorrent, and Hancock can't be a "younger" sister when she's older then Robin, much less Nami.

[nicotorrent]

@onemoment:

With a strong character, strength will come. So no, the SHs don't need to recruit the strongest guy in the area. That's dumb.

Right, I'm not saying that the SH's are going to intentionally recruit the strongest person, but that the next nakama they recruit will probably be one of the strongest, in terms of power/story line, as it's likely to be someone from the prision/the deeper levels.

Right now, the crew is strong in the terms of their relationship and in their respective positions, but they could really use a hand to make sure their asses aren't kicked in the New World with stronger pirates. Just my two cents.

(PS. Yes, the Perona for Nakama theories are kind of ridiculous.)