Shame for the pages
also buggys crew doesnt seem to be loyal…
I think we've seen the last of Buggy's crew and Alvida…..I thinking buggy is going to start over again with some new crew members from ID.
Shame for the pages
also buggys crew doesnt seem to be loyal…
I think we've seen the last of Buggy's crew and Alvida…..I thinking buggy is going to start over again with some new crew members from ID.
What did Buggy do this time? What's worse what did he do to get into Impel Down? He's not that high class a criminal.
Wow, somehow I feel Impel Down is a mix of Superjail and Traditional Hell, for pirates.
Unlike most One Piece fans, Luffy's mom has never been a concern for me. But I too am assuming that Portgas is Luffy's mom too.
! It just always drove me crazy…
! Monkey D. Luffy + Portgas D. Ace = Brothers
! Me: Well, D. has to be their last name
! Will of D is explained
! Me: Ok... then they're half brothers? Different fathers perhaps?
! Garp and Dragon reveal connection to Luffy
! Me: Ok, then Ace is probably not related to those two, since he's the only one lacking 'Monkey' in his name.
! Garp reveals connection to Ace
! -_-... WTH?!Yeah… glad that's cleared up :P
No, no, you all got it wrong…instead of having the last name "Monkey" Ace took the maiden name of his mother "Portgas". Ace and Luffy have the same mother, only we now know that her last name was Portgas before she married Dragon.
Unlike in American comics, the 'thought bubbles' almost always mean whispering in One Piece and most manga.
wrong, it was telepathy from haki training and the now really really close relationship between luffy and hancock =)
wrong, it was telepathy from haki training and the now really really close relationship between luffy and hancock =)
nope its cause they are soul mates and can do anything
nope its cause they are soul mates and can do anything
no thats not it either
she can comunicate with luffy cause…
[hide]she is having his baby[/hide]
Ace and Luffy have the same mother, only we now know that her last name was Portgas before she married Dragon.
That was not proven in this chap and as of now is still just a possibility. They could indeed have different mothers.
They could indeed have different mothers.
I don´t think it will make much sense, they are brothers, Ace is just feeling nothing towards Dragon. Everyone just find it difficult to understand because of the "Name discussion". It will be just a waste of story to create a mother for each one, that´s something i doubt Oda could do with the plot. I think the different names just work for the story to make a Luffy at the beginning of the story more of a unknow pirate for everyone, so no character could relate him with Ace (Fire Fist was and is world famous in the One Piece universe). Remember that no one knew of Garp or Dragon full name, or at least the common people. So just adding a problem between Dragon and Ace, Oda solve two problems with one shot. So now that Luffy is a much famous pirate there is no problem for Oda to add more details about the past of his family.
Buggy will be the key of the escape of Impel Down.. the legend of the clown will begin soon LOL
I think we've seen the last of Buggy's crew and Alvida…..I thinking buggy is going to start over again with some new crew members from ID.
No. This is wrong. Alvida, Cabaji and Moghi complete Buggy's character. If anything only the fodder will be gone.
Edit:Maybe Richie sacrifices himself for Moghi and Moghi gets a Lion Zoan and names all his attacks after Richie.
No. This is wrong. Alvida, Cabaji and Moghi complete Buggy's character. If anything only the fodder will be gone.
Edit:Maybe Richie sacrifices himself for Moghi and Moghi gets a Lion Zoan and names all his attacks after Richie.
How do they complete his character ?
@Zik:
That was not proven in this chap and as of now is still just a possibility. They could indeed have different mothers.
Or how about we go the more plausible route and assume it was one mother until stated otherwise. Honestly, that type of speculation has no boundaries.
Buggy's got to get back to his crew somehow. If not here, than maybe somewhere else. The nearest inhabited place is Marinford, I believe. Either way, we'll be seeing his crew again in the near future.
Hm, this could be a perfect opportunity for Buggy to add another crewmember or two to his crew. It doesn't need to be some super-strong badass mofo, just some clownish individual that would give them some variety. Because the only specialized members apart from Buggy are Mohji, who…sics a lion on people, Cabaji, who has a bit more to work with, and Alvida, who doesn't really have anything special outside her club. Well, her fruit is really broken, actually, so maybe she doesn't need anything else.
Oh my god...Bon Clay for the Buggy Pirates.
But wasn't Sanji able to open the Gates of Justice at Enies Lobby just by pulling a lever?
I'm not sure but wasn't that "lever pull" anime-only? Gotta check the manga again.
Or how about we go the more plausible route and assume it was one mother until stated otherwise. Honestly, that type of speculation has no boundaries.
Nahhhh. They're both plausible.
LOL, Bon Clay is perfect for Buggy's crew. Make it so Oda!
Thanks for the scans.
How very funny actually, that there are now two women present in the storyline who claim to be the most beautiful.
@Fairy:
OMG, i think I found sth really interesting…..
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/16/are luffy and boa doing some sort of mind to mind communication? thought bubbles…. haki is awesome
Since like five people randomly ased this and I don't think anyone explained…
Its NOT telepathy, and its NOT Haki.
Its just a manga method to indicate very quiet whispering, or in cases where thats impossible (like being underwater or something) , the indications of body language that are impossible to show on a still manga page.
Other methods include putting dotted lines around the baloons or shrinking the font size, but thats easily the most economical.
It shows up a lot in romantic comedy books where more emotions are expressed than can be said sometimes, particularly in the inevitable event that the cast is at a hot springs, and a guy is hiding behind the ONE girl that knows he's there.Takahashi and Akamatsu do it ALL THE TIME.
No, no, you all got it wrong…instead of having the last name "Monkey" Ace took the maiden name of his mother "Portgas". Ace and Luffy have the same mother, only we now know that her last name was Portgas before she married Dragon.
Yeah, I know that now after reading this chapter. The spoiler was my previous confusion :P
So we can safely say that Jigsaw from the Saw movies runs Impel Down..
XD This just made my day
man i hope the reason why oda has been taking many weeks off lately is because he is busy writing scenarios of the war and drawing up how everything will go. i hope he won't start taking weeks off regularly through out the year because he is getting tired of doing one piece.
Hey guys did you recoqnize in this website sentoumaru axe in the middle and also the nose of Lucci? I'm not sure but it seems like they are shown in two pictures in the middle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/12/
Hey guys did you recoqnize in this website sentoumaru axe in the middle and also the nose of Lucci? I'm not sure but it seems like they are shown in two pictures in the middle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/12/
I assumed it was a random axe, and a random tiger/cheetah w/e (I'm not good with animals) Why would it be Sentoumaru's axe? It could be Lucci but he was just shown in the cover story, I doubt it's him.. Absalom?
Can someone tell me why it's always translated as "Gaol"? Does no one know how to spell the word "Jail"?
Can someone tell me why it's always translated as "Gaol"? Does no one know how to spell the word "Jail"?
Gaol suits it better since prisoners are undergoing extreme torture, seems more medieval and grand, too
@Low-fi:
Gaol suits it better since prisoners are undergoing extreme torture, seems more medieval and grand, too
Is Gaol an actual word, though?
EDIT: Sorry, just looked it up. I was never aware that it was an actual word, hence my reaction. In that case, that's appropriate.
And Djoixu, it was never specified exactly how Sanji closed the gates in the manga.
Yeah, check the wiki article:
And Djoixu, it was never specified exactly how Sanji closed the gates in the manga.
Ok thanks for confirmation. Hate when anime does that kind of scenes, really messes up your mind
Man….. 17 pages, 18 pages, 19 pages.... big deal........ you all whiners got nothing else to whine about the chapter, so you took it out on the number of pages.....
next, maybe you should whine at Oda for taking leave for the week. Then maybe later you should whine about Oda not drawing the manga you all hope for..... oh wait.... you all are already doing that.............. my bad.....
Apparently, the WG didn't even recognize Buggy's pirate flag and Momonga even said if they don't recognize it, it's not significant for them for bother about them.
And they didn't even know Buggy had devil fruit abilities...... lol.....
And Oda purposely darken the warden of Impel Down...... making him a prime candidate for a kick ass character with insane power that Luffy will have to beat.......Luffy will probably cream him after learning some haki pointers from Boa... or something like that.....
And is Lucchi threatening Spandam or just saying they will get Luffy and return gloriously to CP9.
Hey guys did you recoqnize in this website sentoumaru axe in the middle and also the nose of Lucci? I'm not sure but it seems like they are shown in two pictures in the middle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/12/
There is more than one axe in that shot, and it's probably a normal animal.
Lucci isn't even with the government anymore :P
Hey guys did you recoqnize in this website sentoumaru axe in the middle and also the nose of Lucci? I'm not sure but it seems like they are shown in two pictures in the middle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/12/
@ZeArmyOfHalen:
I assumed it was a random axe, and a random tiger/cheetah w/e (I'm not good with animals) Why would it be Sentoumaru's axe? It could be Lucci but he was just shown in the cover story, I doubt it's him.. Absalom?
You ppl should look more closely as there are atleast three axes in series. I think the ropes are being cut to operate some torture device (guillotine anyone?) or the gates of justice.
BTW, so IF/WHEN luffy escapes, it looks like the currents are going to take him straight to marineford http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/522/10/
That's going to be freaking EPIC because most probably the big fight is taking place there. And if news of ace's escape from ID reaches them, the marines will be on their guard making it harder to escape from Marineford. Oh and SA is really close to marineford, so I see luffy and ace and crew (?) making a quick getaway at SA
…it's not Sento's axe, nor is it Lucci (or Absalom, for that matter). That page was a mild form of what we in the biz call a "montage." That is, dialogue-less shots of a variety of things/people/scenes to convey an overall theme, and sometimes the passage of time. Here, we have spikes, a spider, a cauldron, axes cutting ropes, and a scary beast muzzle. Nothing specific or particularly important; just mood-setters.
And if it turns out the beast muzzle is important, then I will admit I was wrong, but that doesn't seem likely.
@kuma:
is Mr 1 in this chapter
No he's not. The prisoner that was attacked by the other prisoners looked a bit like him but, but not very much. It's not Mr 1.
Though I can't wait to see Mr 1 (and the other BW members) there!
There's a strong possibility that Dragon will be involved in the war… I'd bet on it. He said that he and Luffy will meet "soon", which was before any notification of a war, but you know how D's are usually right when they go by feeling, and it's a hint from the author. Also there's been a mention of him in this chapter, which works as build up should he join the war. I'm sure Dragon would go out of his way to save his son, now that we know Ace is his, just like he saved Luffy. I believe Dragon still cares for Luffy, so most likely cares for Ace too, and wouldn't just let the WG execute him. Of course he knows Whitebeard will attack, but maybe Dragon also realizes that the WG have a great chance of winning themselves... he probably has a spy in the WG that's filling him in.
Love how Oda has used Buggy to add a slight comedy factor to the war, just like in Loguetown.
Hey guys did you recoqnize in this website sentoumaru axe in the middle and also the nose of Lucci? I'm not sure but it seems like they are shown in two pictures in the middle:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/525/12/
how can he be in impel down, and off bowling at the same time? senoumaro's axe? please, dont be so silly, its an axe, and some lion like creature, one of many horros in impel down. damn WG
Yeah, since there was also that minotaur-like creature. And the lion is just a lion….
....
JESUS CHRIST ITS A LION!
GET IN THE CAR!
/thread
they have the same mother? didnt they state that while they ahve the same dad, ace has another mother, and that mother meant a lot to him. luffy is dragon's but has another mother?
@Vash:
they have the same mother? didnt they state that while they ahve the same dad, ace has another mother, and that mother meant a lot to him. luffy is dragon's but has another mother?
I think this should answer your question:
Well we have half of it explained. We have Ace completely.
Dragon + Portgas = Ace
Now if only we knew for sure if Luffy has same mom or not.
Dragon + (portgas or ???) = Luffy
I'm gonna assume same mom until told otherwise, but since we weren't told you know a ton of poeple will never let it drop until we are told for sure
Great chapter, I like Mohji's new look
@yoruba:
I don't see it beyond Impel Down to use a firing squad for the influx of pirates Kizaru brought in. I wonder what type of justice (ie Akainu's absolute justice, Smoker's moral justice, Lucci's dark justice) would be used to support this.
Moral Justice? U kidding? Here, we're seeing absolute justice delivered in the form of dark justice
I was listing the justices mentioned thus far, which includes Smoker's moral justice.
Great chapter, I like Mohji's new look
… really? Well to each his own I guess; personally I think he looks like a slightly homosexual goat :P
@yoruba:
I was listing the justices mentioned thus far, which includes Smoker's moral justice.
I was talking about the justice served at ID. Trust me, I don't think they work on the basis of moral justice.
I was talking about the justice served at ID. Trust me, I don't think they work on the basis of moral justice.
thats debatable. Eye for an eye, i for one wont hestitate to torture someone if they really did something immoral.
I don’t know if this is a bit daft or obvious – but I just realised that ace is mother’s name is portgas D. blank – so there is a another character with the initial D – which is quite cool – that both of his parents have an initial D
It may be possible that ace chose to keep the initial d from his father’s side however I doubt this because of what he said in this chapter 525
If this has been already said then feel free to ignore this post
Oh damn it! I can't laugh at Buggy yet, not 'till I know whether he was captured on purpose or not!
And a nice jump from six days to thirty-three hours.
Oh, I almost forgot, Portgas D. Dadan anyone?
I don't like Mohji's new look.. Lion Mohji was better (JESUS, WHATS WITH ME AND LIONS TODAY)
What? This post has finished. Stop reading.
@45°Dunc:
Oh damn it! I can't laugh at Buggy yet, not 'till I know whether he was captured on purpose or not!
And a nice jump from six days to thirty-three hours.
Oh, I almost forgot, Portgas D. Dadan anyone?
Buggy's not that clever :P
But I did give you some props a few pages back for calling this one ;)
@Lil:
I don’t know if this is a bit daft or obvious – but I just realised that ace is mother’s name is portgas D. blank – so there is a another character with the initial D – which is quite cool – that both of his parents have an initial D
It may be possible that ace chose to keep the initial d from his father’s side however I doubt this because of what he said in this chapter 525
If this has been already said then feel free to ignore this post
Actually the D. is not part of the last name, that's a take it or leave it sorta thing.
Ace's mom's last name is just Portgas. SO he took that last name instead of Monkey. It was never said his mother was a D.
Now that I kinda look at it Ace taking his mother's last name because of his father isn't really a slight towards Dragon. More so Garp since he's the eldest Monkey known. But then again I wouldn't fully understand this reasoning anyway.
Eh, he talks about how Dragon was never around (probably busy overthrowing countries), so he has nothing to owe or thank him for, while on the other hand he owes his mother a lot… He certainly has some daddy issues he needs to get over either way. I guess we'll just have to wait for the eventual volume-long flashback of the family backstory to fully get what's going on.
Oda is going to build this ID arc to a fever pitch before something big happens. A couple thoughts:
~33 hours leaves a lot of time for a rescue. The time of the currents are screwy (It took the Buster Call fleet 30 minutes to head to EL, but longer from (roughly) EL to ID?), but let's say that they could arrive at Marinejoa in 30 minutes as well. They don't want to take their sweet time executing Ace. So, the Marines would have to leave ID in 30-ish hours? (On the other hand, whenever there happens to be a countdown to an event, it always last until the final seconds.)
~If this is bigger than a Buster Call fleet, that means there has to be some VIP Marines at the jailhouse guarding Ace, and I don't think Luffy can take them all by himself. I just wonder what intervention will happen: Freeing prisoners, WB invading Impel Down, or both?
~The need for seastone cuffs on Hancock and Buggy's escape lead me to believe that DF's might work in the underwater prison. We'll have to wait and see on that front.
~Oda loves foreshadowing 'WTF?!' events with little throwaway lines in the dialogue. What we learn in this chapter is that Ace has some daddy issues, it's possible to gain a Eternal Log Post for Impel Down, and a headwind somewhat delayed the Momonga ship. Flimsy evidence to predict Dragon's involvement? Hell Yes, but the odds have risen ever-so-slightly that we'll see Mr. Tribal Face Tattoo in this battle.
~Even if you disregard the above point, there has to be a plot twist or two that Oda has in his back pocket that he hasn't hinted at, right? I would have loved a 'WTF Ace isn't at Impel Down?!!', but that little theory seems to have been shot down by Momonga. Oh well.
@Lil:
I don’t know if this is a bit daft or obvious – but I just realised that ace is mother’s name is portgas D. blank – so there is a another character with the initial D – which is quite cool – that both of his parents have an initial D
It may be possible that ace chose to keep the initial d from his father’s side however I doubt this because of what he said in this chapter 525
If this has been already said then feel free to ignore this post
Nope, The mother so far has been stated as just being named Portgas. No D in her name what so ever ( as we know of). I think he just used the D as his family name. (from his dad and grandpa)
Edit: New theory! I predict that the Third Admiral "The Red Dog" is personally in charge of Getting Ace to Marine base! Red dog is at Impel down!! (IMO)