i want a roguexremy movie
make it happen
i want a roguexremy movie
make it happen
Damn, like Taboo said, I want my Gambit x Rogue love :(
That's like the most important thing when it's about X-men for me.
Guess, I'll never get that….
"Oh look it's Wolverine! Oh look it's Sabertooth! OH LOOK! It's a brief second of a bullshit Emma Frost who is only going to be in the movie for about three seconds, but it'll get you excited anyway."
… wait, what?
Emma was in one of the movies? Which one?
Anyone can give me a brief review of Xmen evolution ?
It seems more lighthearted than the animated series of the 90's.
I haven't seen Evolution, but many people say it's fairly good. The teenage drama is kind of stupid though. Some I can handle, like Rogue (I mean, she's the 'emo' of the show, but she has all reason to be the tragic hero of the bunch), Kitty (who was well done, and acted like a fun Jubilee), and Kurt (who shouldn't be a teenager, but was fun and cute).
Also, why is Storm older than the rest of the team? Spike, Kitty, and Rogue, I can understand. But Cyclops, Jean, and the entire Brotherhood beside Mystique and Magneto.
And Mystique was awesome on that show.
EDIT: And is it just me, or is Iceman, for one of the original five members of the X-Men with one of the most powerful of mutant powers, consistently ignored? It kills me that someone with such awesome powers is made a guest character in a few episodes. I think Wolverine and the X-Men is the only show that had him as a regular.
i want a roguexremy movie
make it happen
Very yes.
… wait, what?
Emma was in one of the movies? Which one?
Emma was KIND OF in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. She is officially listed in the movie, and is Kayla/Silverfox's sister. She served no real purpose except turning to diamonds to shield escaping mutants from soldiers shooting at them. The only good part with her was when Scott Summers worked with her to defeat all the soldiers.
Scott: lifts blind fold fires optic blast and hits every soldier in a single swipe
Scott: Did I get them?
Emma: …..Yeah. Yeah, you did.
Cute moment.
Definitely non-canonical since she joins Professor X with the other mutants to join the X-Men, without ever being a member of the Hellfire Club.
Also, how could Emma block bullets. Didn't she shatter when Zorg pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Zorg shot her?
I was kinda "wait and see" with this movie. Then I read this yahoo article:
http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/627-x-men-first-class-mutates-history-in-new-trailer
It's the last line. "The Twilight Girls will like it." Dear God NO!
I haven't seen Evolution, but many people say it's fairly good. The teenage drama is kind of stupid though. Some I can handle, like Rogue (I mean, she's the 'emo' of the show, but she has all reason to be the tragic hero of the bunch), Kitty (who was well done, and acted like a fun Jubilee), and Kurt (who shouldn't be a teenager, but was fun and cute).
Also, why is Storm older than the rest of the team? Spike, Kitty, and Rogue, I can understand. But Cyclops, Jean, and the entire Brotherhood beside Mystique and Magneto.
And Mystique was awesome on that show.
EDIT: And is it just me, or is Iceman, for one of the original five members of the X-Men with one of the most powerful of mutant powers, consistently ignored? It kills me that someone with such awesome powers is made a guest character in a few episodes. I think Wolverine and the X-Men is the only show that had him as a regular.
Evolution was pretty damn good. Didn't have much teenage drama, besides early on where Rogue had a crush on Scott, Avalanche and Kitty, and Scott was jealous of Jean's boyfriend. Only a few things bugged me about the show, mainly the Brotherhood being more comic relief, and Mystique being the principal.
Storm being older than the rest was, well because the show was a teenage version of the X-men, so it was implied that while Scott was the first one Xavier recruited, he taught Ororo, met and befriended Logan at some point, and befriended Hank, and recruited Jean before the story starts, when we get Kurt.
And the Iceman thing really bugged me, as he was always one of my favorite X-Men. I really wish they had him instead of that annoying prick Spyke. In the later seasons Bobby got more screen time when Spyke was put on a bus. But still…..I mean you had to create this asshole character instead of using Iceman?
One thing I really liked on the show is what they did with Wolverine....which was not using him too much. When he was seen, he would either be in a fight, tracking Sabertooth, or Teaching at the Institute in some drill Sargent-like way.
What would you guys say is the best X-Men cartoon? I've never actually watched one.
I haven't seen Evolution, but many people say it's fairly good. The teenage drama is kind of stupid though. Some I can handle, like Rogue (I mean, she's the 'emo' of the show, but she has all reason to be the tragic hero of the bunch), Kitty (who was well done, and acted like a fun Jubilee), and Kurt (who shouldn't be a teenager, but was fun and cute).
Also, why is Storm older than the rest of the team? Spike, Kitty, and Rogue, I can understand. But Cyclops, Jean, and the entire Brotherhood beside Mystique and Magneto.
And Mystique was awesome on that show.
EDIT: And is it just me, or is Iceman, for one of the original five members of the X-Men with one of the most powerful of mutant powers, consistently ignored? It kills me that someone with such awesome powers is made a guest character in a few episodes. I think Wolverine and the X-Men is the only show that had him as a regular.
Very yes.
Emma was KIND OF in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. She is officially listed in the movie, and is Kayla/Silverfox's sister. She served no real purpose except turning to diamonds to shield escaping mutants from soldiers shooting at them. The only good part with her was when Scott Summers worked with her to defeat all the soldiers.
Scott: lifts blind fold fires optic blast and hits every soldier in a single swipe
Scott: Did I get them?
Emma: …..Yeah. Yeah, you did.Cute moment.
Definitely non-canonical since she joins Professor X with the other mutants to join the X-Men, without ever being a member of the Hellfire Club.
Also, how could Emma block bullets. Didn't she shatter when Zorg pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Zorg shot her?
I thought they completely fucked up Apocalypse, so I stoped watching it right after it dawned on me.
16 characters of AZAZEL!!!!!!
I watched almost all of the 90s X-Men series via NetFlix last year for the first time. That shit holds up really well, it's still really fun by today's standards. It also seems to stay close to the comics as upon watching the series I understand most of what I hear in X-Men conversations (I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean).
Think I still need to watch the last two seasons. I also need to watch Evolution, I've only seen random episodes really. Wolverine and the X-Men I found boring as hell, but watchable.
What would you guys say is the best X-Men cartoon? I've never actually watched one.
Pryde of the X-Men.
Seriously though. The 90's show was great at first, and had some fantastic voice casting, but tried a little too hard to incorporate anything and everything that ever happened in the comics by the end. It was pretty much the 90's X-Men team doing most of Claremont's 70's run, which is pretty hard to argue with. (But by the end they had timetraveling, reality hopping 8 parter episodes, which was a bit much.) They also started wedging in cameo guest star characters like mad later. Also crossed over with the Spiderman cartoon running at the same time.
Evolution was… X-Men in high school, and it had some of the character interaction down pretty well. Its main benefit is it had somewhat more current sensibilities towards costumes and storytelling. And it had Kitty/Nightcrawler interaction which was good. But it also had Spike. Who was not as cool as either Marrow, the actual bone girl from the comics, or Spike the vampire from Buffy. He just kind of sucked, and they got rid of him eventually. Basically every single time you see him there's just this feeling in the back of your head of "You don't belong here."
Eventually I stopped getting up early enough n Saturday morning to watch it, so I dunno how it ended.
No idea how Wolverine and the X-Men was, haven't seen a single episode.
Now, when it comes to Spiderman cartoons, there's not much debate. Spectacular Spiderman is the best one, even though it was only 26 episodes.
And she was a hell of a lot more awesome as Peter's gf in USM than MJ ever was.
Best thing the Ultimate U ever did. The most interesting and officially different from the main timeline.
And then they ended it after like, one arc. LAME.
I have watched the first season recently. I am really surprised that the first episode starts with american red necks racist protesting against mutants.
It really sets the tone and it was on Fox kids.
I heard the animation was terrible during the last season.
@RobbyBevard:
Pryde of the X-Men.
Seriously though. The 90's show was great at first, and had some fantastic voice casting, but tried a little too hard to incorporate anything and everything that ever happened in the comics by the end. It was pretty much the 90's X-Men team doing most of Claremont's 70's run, which is pretty hard to argue with. (But by the end they had timetraveling, reality hopping 8 parter episodes, which was a bit much.) They also started wedging in cameo guest star characters like mad later. Also crossed over with the Spiderman cartoon running at the same time.
Evolution was… X-Men in high school, and it had some of the character interaction down pretty well. Its main benefit is it had somewhat more current sensibilities towards costumes and storytelling. And it had Kitty/Nightcrawler interaction which was good. But it also had Spike. Who was not as cool as either Marrow, the actual bone girl from the comics, or Spike the vampire from Buffy. He just kind of sucked, and they got rid of him eventually. Basically every single time you see him there's just this feeling in the back of your head of "You don't belong here."
Eventually I stopped getting up early enough n Saturday morning to watch it, so I dunno how it ended.
No idea how Wolverine and the X-Men was, haven't seen a single episode.
Now, when it comes to Spiderman cartoons, there's not much debate. Spectacular Spiderman is the best one, even though it was only 26 episodes.
So which Apocalypse you thought was done better then ? The one by Collicos or the one who did him by the end ? Not the guy from "The Fifth Horsemen", the other one.
Who cares. Apocalypse is always a terrible villain.
@RobbyBevard:
Who cares. Apocalypse is always a terrible villain.
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Start at 18 seconds the to 1:13 and 1:50, then 2:10
I could find no Colicos only video.
this one is a whole scene
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I can't be the only one who saw Apocalypse and thought "Hey why's Darkseid in this show?"
@No:
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Start at 18 seconds the to 1:13 and 1:50, then 2:10
I could find no Colicos only video.
this one is a whole scene
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Who cares. Apocalypse is always a terrible villain.
You probably like Mr. Sinister and Venom, too.
@Cyan:
I can't be the only one who saw Apocalypse and thought "Hey why's Darkseid in this show?"
Yup. He boils down to a cheap Darkseid knockoff. Darkseid, conqueror of worlds, undefeated even by Superman.
Apocalypse… killed on a regular basis. By Cyclops. Can only rule the world when a guy in a wheelchair wasn't around in the 60's for... some reason. Age of Apocalypse was a cool story and all, but that had almost nothing to do with the head hancho himself. (How DID the world go to such a crap state in just 10 years, anyway?)
I hate Venom and thought Sinister is kind of a vimp actualy.
I mostly adore Colicos' voice.
Op-Ed of the X-shows:
-Pryde: Silly from what I remember and I didn't really like Kitty…but we got a kick-ass platformer game out of it so it gave us that.
-90s series: Pretty good the first few seasons...sure they went a tad overboard with Cable but it was the 90s and Liefeld was probably just as important to the books at the time as the Claremont/Byrne stuff. Probably should have ended after the whole finale story where Apocalypse tries to change reality.
-Evolution: Some of the teen-angle wasn't bad, some of it...was Spike. A lot of it is a blur to me now though.
-Wolverine &: Outside some of the over-hype of Wolvie, it was a strong show for the most part. Did it's own thing though occasionally feeling like it wanted to be an Evolution sequel (except that X-23 is new again and Wanda is a bigger daddy's girl and much nicer than the goth version) and did use a few mutants that the other shows hadn't in interesting ways. The parallel stories of "averting a crisis while showing the post-apocalyptic world" was an interesting angle though.
They planned to go on so that's why they brought Apocalypse back in the hilariously bad episode "The Fifth Horseman" .
Key words : Mayan natives and hulking deformities in spandex.
The thing is that Apaocalypse has a good concept around him (that whole "first mutant" thing).
Writers just suck horribly at using him.
Also Mr. "I have a Big A on my belt no matter the decade or continuity" just… looks really stupid.
And his power is, what. He can shapeshift into blunt objects and is strong. Just... laaaame. His motivation is terrible, his characterization is constantly terrible, and he's just... bleh. He's about as credible as Doomsday is in Superman. Sure he may be able to beat down some heroes with ease cause the writing says so with his brute strength, but... that alone doesn't make him interesting.
I've only seen Apocalypse in UXM. His appearance was built up for 20 chapters, if not more, and he was easily killed by the Phoenix after he toyed around with the rest of the X-Men for about three chapters (yes his entire build-up amounted to three chapters of screentime). It was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for UXM, which started off great, at least for a comic newbie like me, but consistently declined in quality since Cable's first appearance (which sets in motion the events leading up to Apocalypse). I'm glad Kitty had already moved on to being a permanent member of the USM cast at that point (which also had its share of bad story arcs but always managed to redeem itself later on).
But what I want to say is that I read UXM about two weeks ago and I don't remember anything specific about Apocalypse. His appearance, his powers… nothing.
No idea how Wolverine and the X-Men was, haven't seen a single episode.
The Wolverine show starring Wolverine based on the novel: Wolverine
-didn't watch the first one but I heard it was good. I watched a rogue ep a few years ago and I remember liking it.
-evolution: liked this show a bit. it was the first show that got me into the Xmen (and comics in general).
-wolverine show: UGH. i kind of want characters to do things without wolverine appearing ever 5 minutes, talking like he was recovering from a chest cold. i did like rogue in this version too though. nice hair
Rogue in the 90s series was awesome. I will always…ALWAYS love the episode "A Rogue's Tale". No matter what didn't make sense (Storm: "I'll chase after Rogue" two seconds after flying after her "Nope! Can't reach her. Sorry."). It just made me love both Rogue and Ms. Marvel, how tragic Rogue's life is.
God...I could talk about X-Men all day! Incoming quotes!
! @mdmartin101:
! > And the Iceman thing really bugged me, as he was always one of my favorite X-Men. I really wish they had him instead of that annoying prick Spyke. In the later seasons Bobby got more screen time when Spyke was put on a bus. But still…..I mean you had to create this asshole character instead of using Iceman?One thing I really liked on the show is what they did with Wolverine....which was not using him too much. When he was seen, he would either be in a fight, tracking Sabertooth, or Teaching at the Institute in some drill Sargent-like way.
! Spike was what drew me away from Evolution. Honestly. It just bugged me how they could make such a bullshitty character, and give so much focus to him. I mean, Morph made sense in the 90s series. He was made to make the series look dramatic when a character died. But Spike? Eh.
! I wouldn't replace him with Marrow, since I've never liked Marrow. I've always enjoyed the number Storm did on Marrow that one time.
! >!
! But Wolverine not having a major focus is very appealing to me.
! @Kaiolino:
! > What would you guys say is the best X-Men cartoon? I've never actually watched one.
! From the ones I've watched? The 90s one. I have respect for many others, but the 90s series was my childhood.
! @No:
! > I thought they completely fucked up Apocalypse, so I stoped watching it right after it dawned on me.
! No offense, but Apocalypse was never that great of a villain. The only good thing that came from him were moments in which rare X-Men members would gain spot light.
! @Sarlaccboy:
! > 16 characters of AZAZEL!!!!!!
! I know! It's fucking sweet!
! @Buuhan1:
! > I watched almost all of the 90s X-Men series via NetFlix last year for the first time. That shit holds up really well, it's still really fun by today's standards. It also seems to stay close to the comics as upon watching the series I understand most of what I hear in X-Men conversations (I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean).
! The later in the series you get, the weirder it gets. I will say that the final episode is fantastic though.
! @RobbyBevard:
! > Pryde of the X-Men.
! I saw one episode of that one (it had Juggernaut and Firestar). Very enjoyable. The arcade game was based off of this series.
! And I've got a whole lot of love for Dazzler.
! > Seriously though. The 90's show was great at first, and had some fantastic voice casting, but tried a little too hard to incorporate anything and everything that ever happened in the comics by the end. It was pretty much the 90's X-Men team doing most of Claremont's 70's run, which is pretty hard to argue with. (But by the end they had timetraveling, reality hopping 8 parter episodes, which was a bit much.) They also started wedging in cameo guest star characters like mad later. Also crossed over with the Spiderman cartoon running at the same time.
! Yeah, but I enjoyed many of those crossover stories. The time travel was crap though. And I loved the Spider-Man crossovers. I loved the one where Spider-Man had to pick multiple heroes to fight, and instead of picking Wolverine like everyone would expect him to, he picked Storm.
! > And it had Kitty/Nightcrawler interaction which was good. But it also had Spike. He just kind of sucked, and they got rid of him eventually. Basically every single time you see him there's just this feeling in the back of your head of "You don't belong here."
! Could not blood agree more. I seriously loved Kitty and Kurt in this series, and Rogue is always a pleasure. Spike was a waste of time.
! > Now, when it comes to Spiderman cartoons, there's not much debate. Spectacular Spiderman is the best one, even though it was only 26 episodes.
! Nostalgia goggles force me to adore the 90s series way too much. I've seen some of Spec Spiderman. The animation is amazing and very fluid. Love the fight choreography. The writing is pretty good. But man, I might be alone on this, but I hate the character design. I mean, I'm still going to watch the entire series someday, but none of the characters look good to me at all in terms of appearance.
! > Best thing the Ultimate U ever did. The most interesting and officially different from the main timeline.
! I should read their story sometime. They'd make a cute couple.
! @RobbyBevard:
! > Who cares. Apocalypse is always a terrible villain.
! THANK YOU!
Peter and Kitty is cuteness overload. And they're together in the Deadpool arc, so that's even more awesome. It's like a constant stream of awesome conversations.
Seriously their pairing should be official in the Ultimate Universe, because MJ is a dunce and currently dresses like a Japanese schoolgirl and Gwen became an emo goth. And Kitty was arrested at school for being a mutant. Poor Kitty.
Ultimate Kitty is pretty cool, I really dig the whole Shroud thing, using her powers in reverse.
But man, I might be alone on this, but I hate the character design. I mean, I'm still going to watch the entire series someday, but none of the characters look good to me at all in terms of appearance.
Think everybody felt that way when they first saw it. Remember hatin' on it something fierce back in those days, swearing that it would be the worst spidey show ever and what not.
But it'll grow on you. And before you know it you'll be wondering what you ever saw in those overly detailed old designs from the 90's.
Oh I'm sure. Trust me, character design won't shut me off from a series entirely.
Designs and animation are a bit weird to get used to, doesn't seem right for Spider-Man, but the series is amazing. Great writing, and it really seems like an animated comic book. So many comic characters in their, It draws a bit from Ultimate to, while giving it's own taste of things. It's a shame it did end…...
The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon better be good. Any word on that?
Think everybody felt that way when they first saw it. Remember hatin' on it something fierce back in those days, swearing that it would be the worst spidey show ever and what not.
But it'll grow on you. And before you know it you'll be wondering what you ever saw in those overly detailed old designs from the 90's.
I hope because you don't mean Saban's Spiderman.
Because everytime someone mentions it out loud, I am indebted to go out and kill elderly women with a shovel.
About the movie, I love the idea of seeing a young Xavier and Magneto (especially Magneto).
Ian Mckellen was freaking amazing "Young people !". It is gonna be insanely hard to live up to him.
Oddly, this same conversation is going on in the Nostalgia Critic thread.
I wouldn't replace him with Marrow, since I've never liked Marrow. I've always enjoyed the number Storm did on Marrow that one time.
! [qimg]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/MarrowVSStorm1.jpg[/qimg]
Right after that Storm ripped her heart out. Seriously.
She survived that though. Somehow… (I think she had a second heart or something stupid like that...)
But that was the end of ugly Marrow! She got pretty later, and was thus qualified to join the X-Men and make it to a video game.
Her crush on Cannonball was fun at least, until the annual rotation of writers changed the entire team and got rid of both of them.
I saw one episode of that one (it had Juggernaut and Firestar). Very enjoyable. The arcade game was based off of this series.
There's only the one episode of Pryde of the X-Men. It was a pilot episode packaged in with 12 episodes of the Robocop cartoon. That it got the arcade game spun off of it is pretty crazy, but yeah. Just the one episode.
@RobbyBevard:
Right after that Storm ripped her heart out. Seriously.
She survived that though. Somehow… (I think she had a second heart or something stupid like that...)
But that was the end of ugly Marrow! She got pretty later, and was thus qualified to join the X-Men and make it to a video game.
Her crush on Cannonball was fun at least, until the annual rotation of writers changed the entire team and got rid of both of them.
Oh, Storm. I love how you pull off the most bad ass shit at times. Admittedly, it feels out of character sometimes with your 'peace-loving, I-want-to-spend-my-afternoon-gardening' self, but I can accept that you have an edge.
I haven't really read much into Marrow over those events, but my only issue against her was that she was generally pretty bitchy. I think I'm going to be reading some X-Men comics once I get my month free of online Marvel comics online.
There's only the one episode of Pryde of the X-Men. It was a pilot episode packaged in with 12 episodes of the Robocop cartoon. That it got the arcade game spun off of it is pretty crazy, but yeah. Just the one episode.
Really? That sucks. I thought there would be more.
@No:
I hope because you don't mean Saban's Spiderman.
Because everytime someone mentions it out loud, I am indebted to go out and kill elderly women with a shovel.
With the 90's show it was pretty much the opposite reaction, you looked at those really detailed designs and thought man that looks awesome. Only to later realize that when animated they looked like crap.
Does anyone know if the 90's spidey had a smaller budget than the spectacular spidey one had? Or is it just that the more streamlined and less detailed designs from spec are easier to animate.
Really? That sucks. I thought there would be more.
It might have just been a pilot considering how fast it moved and how it didn't really get picked up beyond the one episode. It is rather straightforwards though: Kitty "joins" the Xavier Academy, Magneto and his brotherhood (which for some reason includes Emma Frost) abduct her, Kitty befriends Lockheed and is saved by the team.
With the 90's show it was pretty much the opposite reaction, you looked at those really detailed designs and thought man that looks awesome. Only to later realize that when animated they looked like crap.
Does anyone know if the 90's spidey had a smaller budget than the spectacular spidey one had? Or is it just that the more streamlined and less detailed designs from spec are easier to animate.
I was talking about the whole multi season spaning MJ issue never being resolved, not even in the second Spiderman show Saban made a year after this one concluded.
I just saw the trailer. It looked definitely looked ok, but I'll wait and see til more info comes out.
! I did like how they showed the Beast's transformation.
Does anyone know if the 90's spidey had a smaller budget than the spectacular spidey one had? Or is it just that the more streamlined and less detailed designs from spec are easier to animate.
Pure inflation probably means the more recent series was more expensive, even if their actual budgets were comprable.
But the people in charge of writing and storyboarding it had a different sensibility, which is a big part of it, and yes, the designs WERE streamlined more for animation. But also the standards and the tech have come a long way in 15 years. Most animation is drawn digitally on a tablet instead of on paper and then scanned, and its certainly all colored digitally now, and those make a huge difference in production.
Australian Wolverine
The more i watch the trailer the more I like it.
I am just happy not to see tons of stupid explosions non stop.
The trailer seems to suggest that there will be a lot of character development.
Dodd became THE Wolverine voice but that Australian guy had him beat.
Fuck this movie for having me talk about Wolverine over the O5
Oh and I think someone confused the Pryde pilot with Amazing Friends.
First off this movie looks terrible. Absolutely terrible.
And secondly Apocalypse was a great villain. Terrifying and powerful, and he had a pretty cool back story in my opinion.
He was a lot cooler in concept than execution.
Apocalisp
his power is a speech impediment
do hohoh hoh
Yeah, Australian Wolverine was "Amazing Friends". Heck, even SHS knew that having, of all things, an Australian Wolverine clone in an episode that felt like it parodied a lot of "Amazing Friends" concepts. (and oh yeah, Firestar showed up)
The movies also had Australian Wolverine.
"I am Apocalypse! Look at me and my big, kissable lips!"
"The 'Twilight' girls will like it."- Matthew Vaughn, Director of X-Men First Class.
http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/627-x-men-first-class-mutates-history-in-new-trailer