Hmm… Makes sense, Guess Blackbeard gets off with a Break in to Impel Down and Free probably the Strongest Prisoner there and add him to his collection.
The War With Whitebeard
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I do not think so because he'll be fighting against the Whitebeard Pirates, which was what the Shichibukai were ordered to do. Also, from this last chapter, I get this feeling that if Jinbei had told Sengoku that he would fight against the Whitebeard Pirates, then his title would be intact even after all he did in Impel Down. But maybe that's just me.
No, he will not be spared which is what this last chapter actually indicates. Before Jimbei says a single word Sengoku says "So this is your answer" meaning that just breaking out of ID and coming here with prisoners was enough for him to lose his title. The same goes for BB since he also would be bringing at least 1 prisoner. Besides we don't know what exactly BB's goal there is, he may be out there to destroy which ever side is left standing after the battle or to fight both of them. He came to ID and certainly quite a few of the prisoners there have no liking for either the WG or WB.
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No, he will not be spared which is what this last chapter actually indicates. Before Jimbei says a single word Sengoku says "So this is your answer" meaning that just breaking out of ID and coming here with prisoners was enough for him to lose his title. The same goes for BB since he also would be bringing at least 1 prisoner. Besides we don't know what exactly BB's goal there is, he may be out there to destroy which ever side is left standing after the battle or to fight both of them. He came to ID and certainly quite a few of the prisoners there have no liking for either the WG or WB.
Sengoku, I think, anticipated that Jinbei was going to fight against the World Government to aid the Whitebeard Pirates in their goal to save Ace. Teach, on the other hand, would fight at least the Whitebeard Pirates seeing as how he wants Newgate gone. Boa Hancock even said that she only agreed to fight against Whitebeard, not to ally with the Marines. Even if Teach were to wipe out the remaining forces, as you say, he can even use the same excuse as Hancock and keep his title.
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When BB does show up, will his Shichibukai title be taken away?
Do you honestly think Blackbeard cares? Its now obvious that he's in the final stages of his grand plan. This is apparent due to the betrayal seen at Impel Down, and because he abandoned the Marines in their greatest hour of need.
Shame though, it would have been nice for all the big leaguers to realise his potential as PK candidate.
Anyway to the point, yes he will have his status revoked. You don't take down Hannibal, abandon the government, and contribute towards the chaos that ensued at ID, and get away with it.
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Blackbeard/Ace Alliance wins it! Marines are beaten, Ace is rescued, BB appears, Ace and him kill WB, and they ride off Stronger together into the sunset bursting out malicious laughter as Luffy goes "NUUUUUUU!!" with teary eyes. Thus is born a devious supergroup of villainy which goes on to conquer the Grand Lin- …no, the WORLD! Verifying that D stands for DOUCHEBAGS!
It'll be too awesome! And way better than any alternative where Ace is rescued and everyone goes on to celebrate before their next adventure. We had that at EL. This is supposed to be the an event that'll change the world, and BB won't be doing much of a change to anything whatsoever just by recruiting some warden (and perchance a few has-been/never-was -pirates) from Impel Down. >:o
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i predicted Shichibukai will be disband after the war…any1 else on board?
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Do you honestly think Blackbeard cares? Its now obvious that he's in the final stages of his grand plan. This is apparent due to the betrayal seen at Impel Down, and because he abandoned the Marines in their greatest hour of need.
Shame though, it would have been nice for all the big leaguers to realise his potential as PK candidate.
Anyway to the point, yes he will have his status revoked. You don't take down Hannibal, abandon the government, and contribute towards the chaos that ensued at ID, and get away with it.
This is not very likely. First, Blackbeard being decisive in Newgate's defeat would dwarf any of those things, and him losing his status so early would be pretty dumb story wise. Also I DO think he cares, he went through a lot of trouble to become a warlord, and I don't think what he's gotten out of it(A meal and maybe making his trip to ID easier) is what he wanted it so much for. Considering everything so far has pointed to his "grand plan" being taking down Whitebeard with the help of an army of level six silver medalists, I honestly don't see any reason for his position being revoked.
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Sengoku, I think, anticipated that Jinbei was going to fight against the World Government to aid the Whitebeard Pirates in their goal to save Ace.
He anticipated it? You mean he anticipated that he would escape Impel down with it's 20 years of inescapeability or anticipated that the gates of justice would be open for a ship Jinbei helped steal to sail on threw?
@NANLIT:Teach, on the other hand, would fight at least the Whitebeard Pirates seeing as how he wants Newgate gone.
Except he doesn't even know if they will be there when he would show up. His plan needs to be able to work even if Whitebeard isn't there for him to kill or the rest of WB's crew. That means that he must be planing to take out whoever is left including Marine HQs.
@NANLIT:Boa Hancock even said that she only agreed to fight against Whitebeard, not to ally with the Marines. Even if Teach were to wipe out the remaining forces, as you say, he can even use the same excuse as Hancock and keep his title.
It's not very likely Hancock is going to retain her title and the same goes for BB.
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He anticipated it? You mean he anticipated that he would escape Impel down with it's 20 years of inescapeability or anticipated that the gates of justice would be open for a ship Jinbei helped steal to sail on threw?
I meant thaat Sengoku anticipated that the reason Jinbei broke out of Impel Down was to aid Whitebeard and not to fulfill his Shichibukai obligation of fighting against the Whitebeard Pirates.
Except he doesn't even know if they will be there when he would show up. His plan needs to be able to work even if Whitebeard isn't there for him to kill or the rest of WB's crew. That means that he must be planing to take out whoever is left including Marine HQs.
He had been on Whitebeard's ship for decades. He should know very well the full extent of Whitebeard's power. He probably doesn't anticipate Whitebeard to fall before he gets there.
@ThunderEarthFire:It's not very likely Hancock is going to retain her title and the same goes for BB.
I think she will keep her title, especilly after watching the anime. I was reminded just how much Hancock's need to keep her title was a subplot if you will of the Amazon Lily arc. She also left Impel Down with no suspicion on her at all and during the war she established before Luffy showed up that she was not the Marines' ally; it was a loophole in her agreement to help fight against Whitebbeard that she can fight against anyone she wants (as long as she does fight against Whitebeard) and not be in danger of losing her title.
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So I was thinking…they got some characters with ridiculously strong powers. Like Aokoji who can freeze stuff and Boa Hancock who can turn things to stone. If they are so powerful couldnt they just stop everyone that easily. Couldn't Boa Hancock just turn everyone to stone, take Ace away safely, and then turn everyone back to normal without anyone knowing what happened? Or couldn't Aokoji just freeze everyone and shatter the pirates that's a threat to the government. I know I'm just thinking a little bit too far but it just seems very possible.
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Well, I'm pretty sure that if Aokoji or Boa got close enough to WB or Marco to use such an attack, they wouldnt just sit there and be like "cool I always wanted to become inanimate" they would fight back, and then the marines would fight back, and then more of WB's allies would jump in, and the Shichibukai would throw some powers around.
…and then you have what's called a war.
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And Whitebeard can destroy the world then go to sleep.
Or maybe Jaws can walk right up and get Ace.
Better yet, Kuma could…wait, nevermind.
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No one in One Piece is omnipotent, and for Boa to completly turn people into stone she need them to lust after her, something pretty impossible caught in the heat of the battle, that's why she need to use the arrows and kicks, and pretty much sure if she or Aokiji try to solve this war by themself they would end up just as Oars Jr. either by the WB Pirates or by the Marines and Shichibukai.
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Hmm, a part of me thinks, while Oda never kills.
What if that's the point, he knows we won't be expecting this.Could it be that Ace actually will die, it seems a bit of a waste to have a major character like Ace be sentenced to Death and then simply sprung free. It feels like it could have a bigger meaning behind it,
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actually, why couldn't the marines have just cut ace's head off with a seastone axe like, 5 hours before anyone showed up? And then just said they "moved ahead of schedule".
because since we now know that ace's death is their goal, not using ace to goad whitebeard into war, then setting the date and place was just stupid.
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actually, why couldn't the marines have just cut ace's head off with a seastone axe like, 5 hours before anyone showed up? And then just said they "moved ahead of schedule".
because since we now know that ace's death is their goal, not using ace to goad whitebeard into war, then setting the date and place was just stupid.
Actually its kind of both, they needed Ace alive at the center of MHQ for WB to attack, i really dont think the old man is stupid enough to fight the Marines and Shichibukai when and where they choose if there was no oportunity to save Ace, now that WB has come they could proceed to kill Ace whenever they want.
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actually, why couldn't the marines have just cut ace's head off with a seastone axe like, 5 hours before anyone showed up? And then just said they "moved ahead of schedule".
because since we now know that ace's death is their goal, not using ace to goad whitebeard into war, then setting the date and place was just stupid.
Maybe for the symbolism of it all? :P
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Actually its kind of both, they needed Ace alive at the center of MHQ for WB to attack, i really dont think the old man is stupid enough to fight the Marines and Shichibukai when and where they choose if there was no oportunity to save Ace, now that WB has come they could proceed to kill Ace whenever they want.
damn ive been ninja'd xD
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But then if they did that, Oda wouldn't have a story ;)
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Actually its kind of both, they needed Ace alive at the center of MHQ for WB to attack, i really dont think the old man is stupid enough to fight the Marines and Shichibukai when and where they choose if there was no oportunity to save Ace, now that WB has come they could proceed to kill Ace whenever they want.
I think what he/she is saying is the exact opposite, they marines DID NOT want to fight with WB, so they could have just put him to rest whenever they felt like it and just said they did it. I agree it was not intelligent to go broadcasting it as a public execution, but then again just like Flux pointed out, if they didn't where would the fun in that be? =D
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I think what he/she is saying is the exact opposite, they marines DID NOT want to fight with WB, so they could have just put him to rest whenever they felt like it and just said they did it. I agree it was not intelligent to go broadcasting it as a public execution, but then again just like Flux pointed out, if they didn't where would the fun in that be? =D
It was the Marines the ones who start all of this >>>http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/501/19/ and i personally think it was a good bet, they get a Yonkou class shichibukai (BB) and WB loose a comander, a real oportunity to take down the strongest Pirate and turn the balance on his favor, they also need to kill Ace in public because he is the son of Roger, a real message to the world about the superiority of the WG
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It was the Marines the ones who start all of this >>>http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/501/19/ and i personally think it was a good bet, they get a Yonkou class shichibukai (BB) and WB loose a comander, a real oportunity to take down the strongest Pirate and turn the balance on his favor, they also need to kill Ace in public because he is the son of Roger, a real message to the world about the superiority of the WG
That's good evidence but isn't that just Drakes speculation? Btw it wasn't my opinion that the marines didn't want to fight WB, I was just letting you know I think you misinterpreted someone earlier.
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Oh, sorry then, and i think it was more than a speculation, just as Drake and Nyon explained the Marines seek for this conflict, maybe they just wanted to kill Ace in public, but in order to do that they need to fought WB, so they choose to do it.
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Yeah I can see that perspective. I sort of thought it was just a "we're going to have a public execution whether or not WB wants to come, justice won't falter to the threat of pirates" kind of thing. I don't really think having him show up was there goal.
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The trigger will be Blackbeard capturing Ace, Leading to the World Government trying to kill him, only to fail at the hands of WhiteBeard and Luffy. Then Blackbeard will pop up outta no where and cause havoc which then makes Whitebeard get sucked into his vortex where BB keeps him prisoner as he rules the latter half of the sea. Until Luffy get strong enough to release WB and earns his respect for defeating a man that he couldn't and WB will then proceed to pledge allegiance to Luffy & Co. Then Luffy becomes the pirate king, and continues to sail the sea.
/end 10 year Time Jump
The end.
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actually, why couldn't the marines have just cut ace's head off with a seastone axe like, 5 hours before anyone showed up? And then just said they "moved ahead of schedule".
because since we now know that ace's death is their goal, not using ace to goad whitebeard into war, then setting the date and place was just stupid.
I think its because the marines are confident in their powers enough that they will win the "war" and execute ace.
its a good way for them to show "were badass marines, if your a pirate you cant win, we beat the strongest man in the world, dont screw with us, etc."
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I think its because the marines are confident in their powers enough that they will win the "war" and execute ace.
its a good way for them to show "were badass marines, if your a pirate you cant win, we beat the strongest man in the world, dont screw with us, etc."
of course they should be confident on their Power, they have Pacifista, Shichibukai, 3 admiral and Many Powerful Marines with Incredible skill and Devil Fruit.
Just the Pacifista are bad news for WB and his allies !!!
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Hate to break it to you, but there are no Pacifista in this war.
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they get a Yonkou class shichibukai (BB)
Whoa now.
because since we now know that ace's death is their goal, not using ace to goad whitebeard into war
They could have multiple goals.
Just the Pacifista are bad news for WB and his allies !!!
Whoa now.
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Hate to break it to you, but there are no Pacifista in this war.
so far there arent you mean
It could easily be a "secret weapon" or show up later in the war.
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That is a possibility, but I doubt the WG thinks it a good investment to ha- you know what, it probably is considering WB's power. But there still might be a reason to keep them out of it anyway.
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That is a possibility, but I doubt the WG thinks it a good investment to ha- you know what, it probably is considering WB's power. But there still might be a reason to keep them out of it anyway.
Well, I dont see why they WOULDNT use them in the most important war like, ever.
They would of course be targeted and taken down quite fast, BUT im sure they would take out lots of fodder/somewhat powerful characters.
If it was a good enough investment to call of the shichibukai on punishment of revoking their statuses if they dont show up. Im sure its a good enough investment for them to use a few pacifista.
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I've been thinking about something for a while that I'm not sure has been discussed too much– What will become of the Shichibukai? Blackbeard is almost guaranteed to get kicked out, Jinbei announced he's quitting, Hancock will probably be discovered eventually (intentional or not), and even Kuma could end up changing sides. Post-Alabasta proved that losing one is a HUGE deal, so what will happen if the WG ends up losing up to four of them?
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I am pretty confident one of them will be defeated in this battle, either killed or in defeat must therefore be expelled from the club.
But if there really is a new age of Piracy around the bend just after this battle concludes, then it is only natural for every Pirate to charge forth them-self and play by the rules of every man for himself. Why not the Shichibukai as well?
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i think that the shichibukai will be dissolve themselves..also flamingo don`t need to take any longer part in it and the new law will be..the stronger will rule the weaker..so it will be chaos and such an organisation as the shichibukai would be unnecessary..
other idea..some of the supernovae could get a position
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That is a possibility, but I doubt the WG thinks it a good investment to ha- you know what, it probably is considering WB's power. But there still might be a reason to keep them out of it anyway.
WOOT Called it :) Pacifista appear
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@Super-Franky:
I've been thinking about something for a while that I'm not sure has been discussed too much– What will become of the Shichibukai? Blackbeard is almost guaranteed to get kicked out, Jinbei announced he's quitting, Hancock will probably be discovered eventually (intentional or not), and even Kuma could end up changing sides. Post-Alabasta proved that losing one is a HUGE deal, so what will happen if the WG ends up losing up to four of them?
If Crocodile aids in taking Whitebeard down then I'm sure he'll get a full pardon for what he did in Arabasta and get his title back. Other than that I don't see Teach getting kicked out that is if his Impel Down adventure served the purpose of recruiting guys to take Whitebeard down. Heck, if he really frees Devon, Shot and Wolf and they help on taking Newgate down perhaps they'll also get a full pardon. It's always a question of what is the bigger evil to the WG so it's not impossible.
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If Crocodile aids in taking Whitebeard down then I'm sure he'll get a full pardon for what he did in Arabasta and get his title back. Other than that I don't see Teach getting kicked out that is if his Impel Down adventure served the purpose of recruiting guys to take Whitebeard down. Heck, if he really frees Devon, Shot and Wolf and they help on taking Newgate down perhaps they'll also get a full pardon. It's always a question of what is the bigger evil to the WG so it's not impossible.
That's what I've been thinking too. The new age will be when WB dies/falls. He was the strongest man in the world, and probably the strongest yonkou aswell. He could make a place (fishman island) safe just by taking it into his protection, and he has heaps of allies in the new world. So if he's gone, the pirate world is going to become a much harsher place. As for the shichibukai, Crocodile can take Jimbei's spot, so they're back to 7. The only problem is that I don't see BB staying a shichibukai.. he's probably going to aim for the yonkou spot. So they'll need one more replacement. Maybe Buggy? lol..
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Mmm… I think the justice of Blackbeard will prevail in the end!!
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Blackbeard have to win for the sake of the story
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Whitebeard has to lose for the sake of the story.
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Unless a different story happens.
Though it probably won't.
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Bartholomew Kuma (THE REAL ONE) using Kizaru's beam against Zoro at Thriller Bark.
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@Thousand:
Unless she's forced in a position where she has to rush in and save him or he'll die as no one else could save him.
That won't happen, especially now that Marco will have his back.
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Hancock will rush to save Luffy and Marco will think she's trying to attack him and flambé her.
The best chapter.
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That won't happen, especially now that Marco will have his back.
It's plausible especially if Akainu and Kizaru both actively try to kill Luffy.
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They won't be.
Hancock will rush to save Luffy and Marco will think she's trying to attack him and flambé her.
The best chapter.
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Hancock will rush to save Luffy and Marco will think she's trying to attack him and flambé her.
The best chapter.
LMAO. Best chapter ever.