I'm deeply confused as to why they just don't use his current modern design and I dunno just make it a little furrier.
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@Cyan:
I'm deeply confused as to why they just don't use his current modern design and I dunno just make it a little furrier.
I'm sure that's what they wanted to do and what all the artists said, but hey, executives know better. Thats why so many licensed properties use the name and then nothing from the license that made it popular in the first place.
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Team Sonic Racing came out. It's pretty good.
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A fan shows that re-animating Sonic isn't that hard.
https://movieweb.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-trailer-fan-edit-cartoon-reboot/?fbclid=IwAR01jcgTGLExdtH_-PTlcfxBIN0dpV-gZQPV3-4kgLtkRS0s-P79KRb5YyULooks out of place, but hey, it's actually Sonic.
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I haven't played a sonic games since I was in elementary school, I remember I used to love Shadow…. but then again I used to love Jar Jar binks, gremlins 2, the 1998 Godzilla movie, and the live action Mario movie when I was that old, all of which I loathe now, so I guess my question is, since I don't feel like going back a replay Sonic Adventure 2 and find out for myself... is he really that bad?
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I haven't played a sonic games since I was in elementary school, I remember I used to love Shadow…. but then again I used to love Jar Jar binks, gremlins 2, the 1998 Godzilla movie, and the live action Mario movie when I was that old, all of which I loathe now, so I guess my question is, since I don't feel like going back a replay Sonic Adventure 2 and find out for myself... is he really that bad?
No just badly dated in virtually all aspects.
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I haven't played a sonic games since I was in elementary school, I remember I used to love Shadow…. but then again I used to love Jar Jar binks, gremlins 2, the 1998 Godzilla movie, and the live action Mario movie when I was that old, all of which I loathe now, so I guess my question is, since I don't feel like going back a replay Sonic Adventure 2 and find out for myself... is he really that bad?
Gremlins 2 was always awesome and still is. It knew exactly what it was and had fun with the fact it was a stupid cash grab sequel. It was even the same director, who enjoyed playing with it and poking at the original and the weird stuff in it.
And it was a solid satire and a lot of fun. Different than the first film to be sure, but fun.
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I haven't played a sonic games since I was in elementary school, I remember I used to love Shadow…. but then again I used to love Jar Jar binks, gremlins 2, the 1998 Godzilla movie, and the live action Mario movie when I was that old, all of which I loathe now, so I guess my question is, since I don't feel like going back a replay Sonic Adventure 2 and find out for myself... is he really that bad?
In SA2, no. It's Sonic Heroes where they dial up the "edgy" attitude.
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Ahahahahahaha that Mountain King snippet.
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Is that Jennifer Hudson on the left!?
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I never thought I'd see the day when Jim Cummings would play Sonic's antagonist again:
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If anyone's sleeping on the OK KO episode, definitely hit it up! It's filled to the brim with love for the source material, from the writing to the animation and even the background music! Also OK KO is just one of the best shows period? And took a lot of influence from the Sonic cartoons and comics.
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Definitely better! But… that's not exactly hard to do.
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Just looking at the likes/dislikes, it's amazing how much the general opinion of this movie turned around.
Yeah, obviously Sonic looks better, and I'll admit some of jokes did get a laugh out of me (Sonic playing baseball by himself, the rubber band ball attraction, and Sonic throwing darts), but I still anticipate this largely being a hackneyed mess.
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Look, all I want is to hear Jim Carrey talk about giving himself a prrrrromotion.
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I might be in a small minority here but this movie actually looks pretty fun
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I'm mostly sad that the first 10 seconds shows we could have had a gorgeous actually game inspired look but… that was probably only added after the backlash to the first design, and is probably not much longer than that in the actual movie. (Well ifg they went to the trouble of making it, it might be a couple minutes.)
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I'm mostly sad that the first 10 seconds shows we could have had a gorgeous actually game inspired look but… that was probably only added after the backlash to the first design, and is probably not much longer than that in the actual movie. (Well ifg they went to the trouble of making it, it might be a couple minutes.)
There was supposedly going to be some backstory of Sonic arriving to Earth as a baby and being raised by an owl. I guess that got scrapped so they could show him actually in that world before being brought to ours Sonic X style.
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Okay…they get a "most improved" award at least. It doesn't look awful anymore.
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Lol Sega is apparently calling this the year of sonic….. They said the same thing in 2014, we all know how well that ended
Apparently there will be new info every month or so
I doubt any game they have will be any good but I hope at least the movie is good, already got my tickets
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I had to look up and see what they did in 2014…......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................cut me some slack I don't have a good punchline.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Still no reviews out for Sonic the hedgehog movie, that can’t be good
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Those midair holds look super clunky.
But pretty neat for a fan project.
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Still no reviews out for Sonic the hedgehog movie, that can’t be good
They're out now. And they're…surprisingly good.
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Yeah, some of the leaks I read for this a few months back suggest I may not hate it, which is interesting.
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Is that the closest thing we're ever going to get to a Paper Sonic? With all the sports crossovers you'd think they'd do a Paper Mario Meets Paper Sonic. I mean, they were able to make a great crossover between Mario and Rabbids, so this seems like a great collaborative opportunity. Might even get Paper Mario back on track to be more like the original two games in the series.
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Watched the movie tonight. I liked it well enough. A fair amount of stupidness, but mostly easy to forgive.
The main three actors were all good. Carrey is classic Carrey, and Schwartz was good as a more vulnerable Sonic. Marsden's Tom was the weakest. He wasn’t bad, but any of his scenes without Sonic or Robotnik were all annoying.
My various thoughts:
! I liked Sonic’s game world, and I thought Longclaw the owl seemed interesting, but it was all way too rushed. Could see her surviving for a sequel.
! Garry Chalk, the voice of Robotnik in Sonic Underground and Grounder in AOSTH, played one of the Pentagon generals. Does it count as a cameo if only me and two other people are gonna get it?
! Dr. Robotnik has no first name from what I can tell. I don’t know where everyone is getting Ivo from. He also has a “Badniks” label for his robots. And Sonic coins “Eggman” because his robots look very vaguely like eggs, which seemed weak. As an aside, Robotnik > Eggman, I don’t care what Generations said.
! Tom’s wife, exact quote: “I was checking apartments on Zillow.”
Cue screencap of Zillow's website.
Painful.
! You know what I do have a hankering for? Olive Garden.
Tom: “When you’re here…”
Wife: “You’re family.”
Ugh.
! Scene in the bar, paraphrased:
Waitress: The kid can’t be in here.
Tom: He’s not a kid, he has a disease that makes him blue and short.
Waitress: Let me check his ID, then.
One of these lines didn’t happen.
! The same waitress is the one who got nearly punctured with darts in the trailer. Still not funny, but why was she walking next to a dartboard?
! Chili dogs get a mention to justify Sonic’s fart joke.
! Agent Stone (Snively’s expy) seemed not to get any payoff, he just kinda disappears near the climax. He clearly just existed to give Robotnik someone to consistently be a jerk to.
! Likewise, Tom’s wife’s sister seemed just to exist to be a foil to Tom. She hates him for no clear reason, and even his getting into the SFPD doesn’t make her ease up. It was always “Divorce him, divorce him!” I didn’t get her motivation.
! Robotnik has a dance number, just 'cause.
! Bag scene: still as uncomfortable as the trailer made it look.
! A brief Green Hill Zone piano piece played at the end, it was very nice.
! After all that, I sure could go for a never-ending pasta bowl from Olive Garden. It’s never-ending, after all! OY VEY.
! Tails in the post-credits scene seemed to be voiced by Colleen O'Shaughnessey. Uncredited for some reason. And do they have Pumas in their world, too?In short, Detective Pikachu this ain't. But it's relatively harmless, and relatively enjoyable if you don't think too hard about it.
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Yeah, it's pretty much the film you'd expect it to be from the trailer but not really in a bad way. There's a ton of in-jokes and series references that don't get into the trailer that show that somebody actually cared to put effort into it but the sequences with Sonic interacting with people are pretty much as bland and generic as you'd expect. Except for Jim Carrey, which is pretty much also what you'd expect.
It doesn't really do the usual cheap fart jokes that these films usually go for to the extent that the few times it does are actually jarring. So much so that it feels like some executive watched it and demanded they be put in because "kids like that". Same for the blatant product placement bits.
If they do a sequel and jettison pretty much all of the human characters besides Robotnik, it could actually be a pretty solid series which is definitely not what I would have thought from the original trailer.
Complicating things since 2009.
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Yeah, it's pretty much the film you'd expect it to be from the trailer but not really in a bad way.
This is a very accurate brief review of the movie's quality. Although funnily enough:
! Stuff like the Echidna Tribe chasing Sonic in the beginning was only put into the movie after Hyson Tesse was attached to redesign Sonic. Originally they were realistic humanoid lizard creatures. Which is also apparently a holdover of a previous attempt at making a live-action Sonic movie where said lizards would actually be the main antagonists instead of Dr. Robotnik (I'm using this name primarily because that's the main name they're sticking with over Eggman). And there's a good chance that if Hesse never got involved, Tails would either not be in the film or look like the original Uncanny Valley live-action Sonic…
! Although in spite of those changes, I'm surprised they kept that Longclaw (Sonic's new parental owl) design intact. Because that design doesn't fit in with Sonic's character design style at all, it's literally just a giant photorealistic owl that looks more like it's from Zelda. But hey, 3/4 decent faithful animal character designs ain't bad by Hollywood standards. I have to give this movie credit for actually improving itself based on trailer audience reactions, although it's mainly more in the vein of finally having at least one person who cares about the source material check their progress to give feedback three quarters into production lol.
! Movie's decent and even pleasantly surprising if you go into it for what it is. It's your typical fish out of water/buddy bonding plot to a T (there's even a contrived "the main characters bicker" plot point where Sonic becomes an asshole because he doesn't like Tom moving on with his life to San Francisco). The humor ranges from okay to "yeah, this is a Hollywood movie", with stuff fart jokes, a bar fight, and Tom's wife's sister constantly wanting them to get divorced. But it's actually marginally better than most other adapted properties that do this, mainly because Sonic and Dr. Robotnik carrey this movie through and through with semi-decent characterization and humor. When it focuses on just the other humans it's bleh to mediocre.
! They give Sonic a (rushed) origin story and an actual internal conflict for once, so he's automatically more interesting than usual portrayals where he's just a cocky quipping goody two-shoes even though it's a cliche "I'm lonely and really want friends" shtick". Jim Carrey does his usual thing with an arrogant narcissist misanthrope genius flair. Although he doesn't start looking like the game design towards the end and his "Badniks" are only generic sci-fi white/grey robots, which inhibits his personality but maybe they'll fix that in the inevitable sequel judging by the after-credits scene and the movie's huge success. He does have this cool Power Glove to control his robots, with the buttons being on his palm. They look a lot like Genesis buttons if I remember right. And I liked how he powers his aircraft with Sonic's quill speed energy to keep up with Sonic.
! They never explain where Sonic's electric burst spin dash powers come from either even though it's vaguely attached to his emotional state. But there is this cool subtle detail where whenever Sonic is hurt and needs medical attention in the movie, he doesn't have a bag of rings with him. When he does, the rings scatter and he's able to bounce back on his own. And Dr. Robotnik's robo dance walk at the end of the movie is apparently a reference to the Death Egg Robot's walk.
! Although what's the weirdest creative choice for me out of this entire movie is that for some reason, they make Dr. Robotnik a rival for Tom instead of Sonic. Sonic and Robotnik do fight towards the end of the movie, but even then they barely have any dialogue exchanges while the movie constantly has this recurring gag around Tom punching Robotnik. Even though Sonic calls Dr. Robotnik "Eggman" as an insult in this movie at least three times, Robotnik NEVER reacts to it even though he's insecure enough to lash back at anyone else who gets in his way. Such an odd scripting choice when giving them chemistry together would only elevated this film's screenplay.I don't like it as much Detective Pikachu, like Shift mentioned earlier (its appeal definitely dulls if you rewatch it because the CGI Pokemon novelty wears off). But it's an okay somewhat enjoyable Hollywood kids movie experience for what it is. And I think that redesigning definitely paid off because I doubt anybody would find this movie as redeemable as it is if he still looked as ugly.
There is absolutely potential for a sequel movie that focuses exclusively on the original Sonic characters, which I really hope they decide to do.
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I really enjoyed the film. Jim Carrey is basically evil Ace Ventura which was amazing. A lot had to be changed but the end product is one of the best video game films ever (which of course isn't that hard).
I would probably rewatch this over Detective Pikachu tbh
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Urgh. I may actually have to watch this movie.
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Urgh. I may actually have to watch this movie.
A lot of people are blowing its redeeming qualities out of proportion because of how not awful it is.
Whatever you thought it would be from the trailers, it's the most okay version of that.
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^ So basically go and see it and see how decent it is?
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If decent's worth the full price of a movie ticket to you, sure.
I mean, you could always wait four months to see how decent it is.
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@Mr.:
I mean, you could always wait four months to see how decent it is.
Man of culture I see.
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Urgh. I may actually have to watch this movie.
@Mr.:
A lot of people are blowing its redeeming qualities out of proportion because of how not awful it is.
Whatever you thought it would be from the trailers, it's the most okay version of that.
The movie wasn't disappointing. I think everyone is just glad that it wasn't a bad movie. It could be recency bias but I'd rather rewatch Sonic than rewatch Detective Pikachu, since the latter was a bit slower.
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Film sequel incoming: https://comicbook.com/movies/news/a-sonic-the-hedgehog-sequel-is-on-the-way/
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Paramount released an 10 second teaser for Sonic 2.
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None hold a candle to Jaleel White, the one true Sonic voice.
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None hold a candle to Jaleel White, the one true Sonic voice.
I can't argue with that. I did a little storyboarding work on the Sonic fan film that got him back in the role. The film didn't turn out great, but White was phenomenal, and from what I heard, really nice to work with.
Still, as far as the video games are concerned, Smith has done the best out of everyone, especially the guy who came before him, Jason Griffith. He's more than earned keeping the job as long as he's willing and able.
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