To be fair we never got a chance to see Moria fight anyone head on. It was only tag-teaming with Oz or as Nightmare Moria. The Whitebeard fight could actually be a chance for Oda to showcase the rest of Moria's abillities
It said that before Moria made his Zombie Army or Pirates, he fought at the same level than Kaidou one of the Yonkou but I don't think that at the the time they fought Kaidou was a Yonkou. Without his Zombie Army, Moria is seriously WEAK.
Moria would get instantly owned by Whitebeard men. Despite having become a Shichibukai he's still one of the losers on Grandline, as can be seen by his fear of the second half.
Moria would get instantly owned by Whitebeard men. Despite having become a Shichibukai he's still one of the losers on Grandline, as can be seen by his fear of the second half.
I agree with you.
Hmm, could the symbol on the back be Alvida's jolly roger? Or could she somehow be related to Vivi?
Hmm, could the symbol on the back be Alvida's jolly roger? Or could she somehow be related to Vivi?
Why would Alvida's jolly roger be on the back of Hancock?
Moria would get instantly owned by Whitebeard men. Despite having become a Shichibukai he's still one of the losers on Grandline, as can be seen by his fear of the second half.
Did you read this manga… oh do they call it? O-N-E P-I-E-C-E ? I believe you didn't ... well at least not the same manga i read....
Moria's strenght doesn't lie in zombies. He didn't have them when he first fought in the New World... why are all the Shichibukai on the first half? Oh... right....
Other than Kuma Moria didn't obey the governments orders, but he knows the importance of his job as one of the Shichibukai... fighting Whitebeard is for his own benefit.
Did you read this manga… oh do they call it? O-N-E P-I-E-C-E ? I believe you didn't ... well at least not the same manga i read....
Moria's strenght doesn't lie in zombies. He didn't have them when he first fought in the New World... why are all the Shichibukai on the first half? Oh... right....
Other than Kuma Moria didn't obey the governments orders, but he knows the importance of his job as one of the Shichibukai... fighting Whitebeard is for his own benefit.
And what would this benefit be?
It eyes turning people into stone doesn't make sense. If that were the case what benefit would stabbing your own hand have? Just looking away would be enough in such a case.
I think her power is that of persuasion. I think that anyone will do/believe whatever she tells them. Basically she first charms her opponent and then whatever she says is instantly believed and done. This is even strong enough to get a person to turn into stone simply by saying it.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
As for the thing on her back…
I would have to say it's something related to either Shanks or Luffy's childhood. 90% chance that it's something we haven't seem a lot. Maybe the 'Anchor' symbol Luffy had on his t-shirt when he was a kid.
It eyes turning people into stone doesn't make sense. If that were the case what benefit would stabbing your own hand have? Just looking away would be enough in such a case.
I think her power is that of persuasion. I think that anyone will do/believe whatever she tells them. Basically she first charms her opponent and then whatever she says is instantly believed and done. This is even strong enough to get a person to turn into stone simply by saying it.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
As for the thing on her back…
I would have to say it's something related to either Shanks or Luffy's childhood. 90% chance that it's something we haven't seem a lot. Maybe the 'Anchor' symbol Luffy had on his t-shirt when he was a kid.
It isn't the charming that's turning people into stone otherwise the Kuja tribe would be "stoned"
Did you read this manga… oh do they call it? O-N-E P-I-E-C-E ? I believe you didn't ... well at least not the same manga i read....
Moria's strenght doesn't lie in zombies. He didn't have them when he first fought in the New World... why are all the Shichibukai on the first half? Oh... right....
Other than Kuma Moria didn't obey the governments orders, but he knows the importance of his job as one of the Shichibukai... fighting Whitebeard is for his own benefit.
Bla bla bla. After seeing how easily the Strawhats got wiped out on Shabaody, the same Strawhats that defeated Moria I think the crew of the strongest Pirate has a dozen people who can take out Moria easily.
Gorlak wants you for the army
Uh oh, back to Boa and Luffy.. Wasn't it so that the "impure (dirty)" thoughts turns you into stone? Well, not instantly but when Boa uses her trick. The Vice-Admirale survived from it 'cause he cleansed his mind with pain.. And everyone know that Luffy is not a pervert and that he doesn't actually have dirty mind at all, so that's why he can survive.. And I think that the thing on Boas back is something we haven't seen yet, something from Luffys past, atleast it would make sense! And meaby the thing on her back doesn't turn you into a stone, meaby she's hiding something (well, doh, aint' that quite obvious), and she'll propably try to take Luffy out (Yarr! Captain Obvious strikes again!").
And what would this benefit be?
Shadows, a taken out Yonkou and balance.
@Kokolores:
Not worth to argue, just read the shichibukai strenght thread. Your interpretation and picture of Moria is just not what a reader should think of him. Its far too bad…
Hmmm am guessing the mark either a "Will of D" type thing. Or simply a blemish since Hancock always going on about beauty and would be vain enough just to empty a castle so no one would see it.
Also I have a feeling Nyon gonna be an ally to Luffy later on, wouldn't blame her after the disrespect Hancock gave her and her wanting to keep the island safe. And if she can really see the future…well. Plus she got the newspaper with Ace's execution date in it. I don't think I need to connect the dots any further from there.
I like Al!na's interpretation: She's got a hairy back.
The hairy back thing would be hilarious, she'd totally close-off her entire castle just for that.
I'm still debating whether I like or hate Hancock, but I definitely think she deserves a gomu-gomu no pistol/ beehive / hot cup of coffee to the face after the past few chapters.
Hancock is quite the bitch. She needs a good punch in the face or something. Luffy is really in for some fun now that he's seen Hancock's back. I don't think she has eyes on her back. First of all Luffy seemed pretty calm about it. I would think he would be a bit more surprised about seeing eyes on someone's back. Secondly if they were eyes that turn people to stone. Why does Hancock seem unhappy Luffy saw it? I think it's a tatoo. A tatoo could be considered an imperfection on her body by the other women. So they aren't allowed in while she is bathing. A scar could also work. However Luffy's seen it before so a tatoo would be more likely. If the the tatoo is anything we may know it could be Whitebeard's as others have said. I think it may be connected to Lola perhaps her symbol and Hancock's tatoo are the same. This assumes that Handcock is Lola's mother of course.
Boa Hancock = Needs her ass KICKED!
I don't care if she's hot, there have only been a few people in fiction that have made me hate someone like this. I hate her more than those stuck up royals in Shabondy. I know it wont happen cause she's a female Shichibukai, but someone please FUCK HER UP! (with your fists, you perverts… oh crap, it's still perverted. Just someone beat her up! ... dammit, it still can be taken out of context!)
Well I just follow the normal theory that there is "Medusa Eyes" in the back of Hancock, and that Luffy has met/defeated a medusa-like monster in his journey.
Oda can't be predicted, so I really has no idea about the next chapter. However, Hanckock will fight Luffy for sure.
So who else is looking forward to a retelling of history at some point where Gloriosa will be a young beauty whose looks layeth the smacketh downeth on Boa?
So who else is looking forward to a retelling of history at some point where Gloriosa will be a young beauty whose looks layeth the smacketh downeth on Boa?
I'm just looking forward for a flashback of whatever Hancock did to the Late empress
her lies might just be an excuse to get away with killing the late empress (probably just turned her and her followers into stone and made it look like an accident), making everyone believe she's more of a tragic hero with all that bullshit of the curse.
Boa Hancock = Needs her ass KICKED!
I don't care if she's hot, there have only been a few people in fiction that have made me hate someone like this. I hate her more than those stuck up royals in Shabondy. I know it wont happen cause she's a female Shichibukai, but someone please FUCK HER UP! (with your fists, you perverts… oh crap, it's still perverted. Just someone beat her up! ... dammit, it still can be taken out of context!)
I'm still waiting to see if Luffy will pull a Blind Master, and break her nose.
@Pospercato:
I'm just looking forward for a flashback of whatever Hancock did to the Late empress
her lies might just be an excuse to get away with killing the late empress (probably just turned her and her followers into stone and made it look like an accident), making everyone believe she's more of a tragic hero with all that bullshit of the curse.
Maybe I didn't pay much attention to this chap but when did it say or imply or allude to Hancock killing the last empress?
I know Boa calls Gloriosa Amazon Lily's Late-Late-Late empress but in that context I'm sure it's suppose to say former like how you have a former king. Granted the last 2 empresses may be dead, it doesn't mean Hancock killed any of them.
Anyway maybe somebody can help me out with who's who on the cover page
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Kaku in the crow's nest
Kumadori at the bow
Blueno at the stern
I'm gonna guess Jybura standing on top of one of the masts near Kaku
Fukurou near the port side of the ship and I can't make out if that is someone near him and if it is I can't tell who. (Maybe Kaifa?)
Oh and by the stern on the edge I guess closer to the hull would be Lucci holding his top hat with his pigeon flying to him?
Yea I know a waste of time but I was bored.
Here's to the CP9 becoming pirates!
Lucci is sitting on the stern of the ship. (you can see Hattori and his top hat)
Kalifa is the one in between Blueno and Fukurou.
Couldn't the reason Luffy was not turned into stone be because Boa was bathing? (a la Califa)
I think the Amazons know that such a story is fake. The person that asked the kid how old she was, told that story after realizing she was only 8 years old. (maybe not old enough to know the truth)
Couldn't the reason Luffy was not turned into stone be because Boa was bathing? (a la Califa)
I think the Amazons know that such a story is fake. The person that asked the kid how old she was, told that story after realizing she was only 8 years old. (maybe not old enough to know the truth)
Holy shit that could be it
the woman of kuja can't see hancock during her bath time because her powers would be ineffective and thats what gives her control over the people
Couldn't the reason Luffy was not turned into stone be because Boa was bathing? (a la Califa)
I think the Amazons know that such a story is fake. The person that asked the kid how old she was, told that story after realizing she was only 8 years old. (maybe not old enough to know the truth)
That makes no sense, the reason why she told her the story is because she felt she was old enough to know the truth. Why would the girl need to be old enough to be told a lie? If it's a lie she is gonna tell she can tell her at any age.
As for why Luffy didn't turn to stone and your reason, it has become a cross between the gorgon curse and a DF(which you think is a lie and cross with the truth). If the story is a lie then there isn't any eyes on her back that turns ppl in to stone so Luffy wouldn't turn to stone, to go on it's a DF and it would have to activated for Luffy to turn in to stone by Boa commanding it.
Basically if the story is a lie and her power is a DF, then she can control it (the DF ability). What's on her back then couldn't turn ppl in to stone and is something else entirely. So her being in water would have nothing to do with it.
@Zik:
That makes no sense, the reason why she told her the story is because she felt she was old enough to know the truth. Why would the girl need to be old enough to be told a lie? If it's a lie she is gonna tell she can tell her at any age.
As for why Luffy didn't turn to stone and your reason, it has become a cross between the gorgon curse and a DF(which you think is a lie and cross with the truth). If the story is a lie then there isn't any eyes on her back that turns ppl in to stone so Luffy wouldn't turn to stone, to go on it's a DF and it would have to activated for Luffy to turn in to stone by Boa commanding it.
Basically if the story is a lie and her power is a DF, then she can control it (the DF ability). What's on her back then couldn't turn ppl in to stone and is something else entirely. So her being in water would have nothing to do with it.
i had another idea that because luffy had already eaten a df that turrned him into rubber a second material couldnt be added(in this case stone) or that her power has something to do with the lust of others being the cause of the stone affect and luffy is pure
i had another idea that because luffy had already eaten a df that turrned him into rubber a second material couldnt be added(in this case stone) or that her power has something to do with the lust of others being the cause of the stone affect and luffy is pure
That whole Luffy is pure thing always sounded like code for Luffy is gay. We've seen him react to women before, you don't have to be leecherous to think a girl looks good. Calling him pure is going to far.
As for the other one I don't understand, I don't think it would make a difference if he is rubber or not he gets turned in to stone like anyother person. If that was the case her power can't work on most paramecia users and no logia users.
what about boa is luffys mom? luffys reaction, after seeing her back could be a hint. and she dont want to help the government cause ace is some kind of related with her.
also i dont think boa got eyes on her back. i guess it a false story to prevent others from trying to see her back.
Shadows, a taken out Yonkou and balance.
@Kokolores:
Not worth to argue, just read the shichibukai strenght thread. Your interpretation and picture of Moria is just not what a reader should think of him. Its far too bad…
Do you really think the WG is gonna let Moria become that powerfull?
They need all 7 shishi + the 3 admirals to take WB out.
If you add WB's power to Maria then he just may take the WG out.
Are you saying that Moria is gonna put the world upside down?
I don't like this current arc too much. It seems a bit abrupt from Shabondy Archipelago, which I liked a lot because of the Supernovas.
Also, there are too much boobies.
Am I the only one who believes that the Granny wil tell Luffy how to use Haki?
I don't like this current arc too much. It seems a bit abrupt from Shabondy Archipelago, which I liked a lot because of the Supernovas.
Also, there are too much boobies.
I'm pretty sure you cannot use those words together like that. You can NEVER have too much boobies.
It isn't the charming that's turning people into stone otherwise the Kuja tribe would be "stoned"
I din't say every time she charms someone they turn into stone. I meant that once you have been charmed you will obey her every order. So if she says: "forgive me", you will forgive her. If she says: "my hand slipped", you will believe her. If you say, "turn into stone you bastard", you will, well, turn into stone…
I'm pretty sure you cannot use those words together like that. You can NEVER have too much boobies.
I prefer depth with boobies.
IT'S SEXUAL
Couldn't the reason Luffy was not turned into stone be because Boa was bathing? (a la Califa)
Nice idea but doesn't work for the following reasons.
Being in water doesn't cancel DF powers. It makes the user immobile.
A user must be fully submerged for it to have a notable debilitating effect.
IF she has the Gorgon eyes, they're Gorgon eyes, and not a DF. I say this with confidence because the only other individual who would be able to play god with DF abilities like that would be Vegapunk and unless she has a reeeeeeeally complex story behind her, I doubt she's been in close contact with the fellow let alone subjected to his experiments.
But good thinking.
@Greg
At Arabasta in Croc's cage when the water began to flow in and only to luffy's knee but he still started to lose his powers.
isn't losing their powers related to seawater ONLY? i don't think the arrogant kuja Princess would like bathing in mere salty seawater… it's probably milk with a full spoon of honey ;)
btw i'm with the tattoo on her back section. either WBs tattoo or Dragons face tattoo... hmmm... but luffy wouldn't have seen that cause he never saw his fathers face(as far as we know from logue town pov) but maybe he could have remebered it from his childhood.
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isn't losing their powers related to seawater ONLY? i don't think the arrogant kuja Princess would like bathing in mere salty seawater… it's probably milk with a full spoon of honey ;)
btw i'm with the tattoo on her back section. either WBs tattoo or Dragons face tattoo... hmmm... but luffy wouldn't have seen that cause he never saw his fathers face(as far as we know from logue town pov) but maybe he could have remebered it from his childhood.
No, it also have an effect on mere water. Not as much though. Kalifa for example was bathing in normal water, and Nami commented that she was being arrogant beacuse it dimince DF's powers.
I Don't know if this has been brought up, but re-reading the chapter again I noticed Luffy mention that the water was really hot. I ruled out that she could have eyes on her back at first, but I believe it could be true since Luffy is in some kind of pain. ( I'm assuming pain stops you from turning into stone )
I Don't know if this has been brought up, but re-reading the chapter again I noticed Luffy mention that the water was really hot. I ruled out that she could have eyes on her back at first, but I believe it could be true since Luffy is in some kind of pain. ( I'm assuming pain stops you from turning into stone )
Possible. Most people are basing their theories that he doesn't turn is due to his last statement. "I've seen that before" or something to that effect. It's basically believed that him once seeing the Gorgon before it died or something is highly unlikely.
@Greg
At Arabasta in Croc's cage when the water began to flow in and only to luffy's knee but he still started to lose his powers.
Water wasn't the reason that they lost their powers. The actual bars and jail cell were made out of Seastone which was the main cause for them losing their powers.
@Lok:
Water wasn't the reason that they lost their powers. The actual bars and jail cell were made out of Seastone which was the main cause for them losing their powers.
No, he wasn't holding the bars at this moment and here is the proof:
What a great chapter! Really like Boa Hancock's character. She always seems to get her way. I think this will change next chapter with Luffy.
Also, I like how Luffy tries to do stuff, but he can't because his crewmembers are not there. Like for example, in this chapter he talks about getting a boat, but remembers that he will get lost without Nami. I think the next crewmember he remembers might be either Robin or Zoro.
Lastly, I think what Luffy saw on Boa Hancock's back is some symbol he saw from his past. And I do not think it is Whitebeard's symbol.
This was an amazing chapter as always. Oda has once again provide another mystery at the end of his chapter… Great!!
I never realised that Thundersonia/Sandersonia was that skinny lol
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WSJ #46 (Ch. 518)
尾田先生からメッセージ有り＜巻末
There'll be an end of chapter message from Oda.
WSJ #47
休OP
Absent: One Piece
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尾田「冨樫先生が連載してる間は休載することにしました。これからは１０週交代制です」
Oda [While Togashi's back it's been decided that the series will be taken out of the publication. It'll be shifted to a 10 week cycle instead]
Oh man this sucks.
@Battle:
Oh man this sucks.
wait does that mean no more weekly OP ?
fuck man
this sucks ass
WTF?! Why in the hell would they do that?
Does it mean it's gonna be 10 weeks of HunterXHunter than 10 week of One Piece!? What kind of bull**** is that?
