How do you think he will?
For me, the upgraded gear 3rd will sacrifice no speed as Luffy can inflate and deflate hiss organs at will without having to move the air along,
And,
Gear 2nd will turn out to be an aurour armour. More on that later, I want to see your views.
Do you think that Oda will upgrade Luffy's gears?
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I doubt he'd update gears 2 & 3, but he might add more :P
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Well I don't really like the idea of more gears though but seriously is Oda actually adds more gears, I would smack him if I meet him.
Why? There's too many power-ups. -
there won't be anymore gears instead I think oda will incorporate the spirit energy techniques.
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i think the next upgrade will be luffy learning true soru instead of relying on gear 2nd to achieve it. that way he doesn't harm his body and can continue for longer.
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@Son:
There's too many power-ups.
I know, right? Making shonen characters get stronger. What was he thinking? It would be so much more interesting if no new dynamics were ever introduced to fights and they ended up being exactly the same with the assumption that they just "got stronger" without any new techniques.
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:) STAREYe for the win.
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I think luffy will use his new found Aurua to make his attacks stronger.Maybe at the end of one piece he will use an awsome G4 but I think we are sticking to G2 G3.
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I doubt he will upgrade the gears. If anything he would just add more. Personally I would love to see more gear moves.
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I'm in favour of replacing all the Gs with SSJs in this thread.
Or let's just replace this thread with one that hasn't been discussed to death already. -
Waiting next super saiyā-gear stage...
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i hate that oda named it gear 2/3 and not heat/giant technique or something like thatā¦ :sad:
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i hate that oda named it gear 2/3 and not heat/giant technique or something like thatā¦ :sad:
Me too. But as you can see it obviously was an intelligent marketing strategy. It makes ppl. discuss until they're blue in the faceā¦
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@Son:
How do you think he will?
For me, the upgraded gear 3rd will sacrifice no speed as Luffy can inflate and deflate hiss organs at will without having to move the air along,
And,
Gear 2nd will turn out to be an aurour armour. More on that later, I want to see your views.Regarding Gear 3rd, it requires air to be inserted directly into Luffy's bones. That's what sets it apart from Gomu Gomu Balloon and any other attacks in which he sucks up air. So there is no way Luffy would be able to inflate or deflate the very innards of his bone structure since he's essentially only a human being, albeit a flexible one. He can't simply make air enter since that's what this gear relies on. Now Gear 2nd it simply blood-doping as Lucci stated, which is only possible since Luffy's insides are the only kind of body able to handle such a thing. I don't exactly get what you mean by what I'm guessing is "aura armor?" so please elaborate so I can even begin to understand what you mean since right now it doesn't make any sense.
To answer your question: No I don't think Luffy's gears will ever be "upgraded" in the sense of stepping up one's ability since both Gear 2nd & 3rd are upgrades in their own right. They're the very thing Crocodile meant by "mastering one's ability" when he mentioned how most Devil Fruit users simply settle and don't bother improving on the very power each one was given.
Will Luffy continue to build up on the foundation that was laid out by coming up with the gears by maybe coming up with different functions of his rubber body? Yes
Will there be an overall "upgrade" to the gears themselves that make them completely different from what they are now? I highly doubt it.
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I second that "STAREYe for the win." Also i do belive luffy will get more gears in teh future but not upgrade the ones he already has. The way i see it luffy uses gear 2 and 3 fairly often since he got them Though not everytime he throws a punch so it's likely he'll get new ones because ppl will get tired of the old ones. He doesnt use them often enough for him to upgrade them AND come up with more which I'm betting 100% he will.
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Maybe Gear Reverse, by combining elements of Gear 3rd and Gum Gum Storm and using the air pressure generated by it to blow away his opponent.
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Whatever is itā¦. Luffy ain't going to beat an Admiral with his current set of skills and gears. He needs more than that. How is Oda going to do that when Luffy and gang finally hits the new world?
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Whatever is itā¦. Luffy ain't going to beat an Admiral with his current set of skills and gears. He needs more than that. How is Oda going to do that when Luffy and gang finally hits the new world?
ANTI MAIN-CASTER!
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i hate that oda named it gear 2/3 and not heat/giant technique or something like thatā¦ :sad:
It'll give too much indications to the enemy
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i hate that oda named it gear 2/3 and not heat/giant technique or something like thatā¦ :sad:
What? I really like the name Gears, nice and simple and not something dumb like "Heat Mode" or "Steam Boost"
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I just hope Oda doesn't go overboard with this, I think Gear 2nd and 3rd is ENOUGH! And I wish it was only used in rare occasions, but nope. Oda has Luffy pulling it out in every fight since he learned it. Luffy can't just Gomu Gomu anyone anymore.
Dammit Oda!
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What are you alking about:/
So far, Luffy has rarely used those techniques in his fights and only as last resorts.
And even if he does use them, so what?
They're natural evolutions to his powers. Like how Crocodile could absorb Water and Enel could make a lightning suit etc.
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In gear 4 ruffy can control every action of his body, of every cell
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I just hope Oda doesn't go overboard with this, I think Gear 2nd and 3rd is ENOUGH! And I wish it was only used in rare occasions, but nope. Oda has Luffy pulling it out in every fight since he learned it. Luffy can't just Gomu Gomu anyone anymore.
Yeah what a jerk! And what's with Zoro using the lb. Cannon attacks? I mean, ever since he learned that aerial sh** he's been using it like crazy! I wish he would just swing his swords like a normal guy, I hate special attacks!
Tch, Luffy advancing his DF ability so he can move faster or make his bones thicker and stronger?!? Rubbish! Stick to just stretching his arms for a good punch or two Oda! Creativity is overrated, and using an idea more than once gets old!
Nahhhh I'm just messin'. I know some people don't like when someone pulls out not just a new "technique", but a whole new fighting mode (Gear 2nd/3rd, Super Saiyajin, Kaioken, Hermit Mode, Kage Bunshin) it can get a little wearisome to see them whip it out whenever they fight a baddy from then on. So I can understand where you are coming from Buuhan1. In Oda's defense though, we are simply seeing Luffy advance his use over the DF ability he has and not just some random power up. Also, he doesn't just utilize the same moves as always, but rather upgraded versions of each one.
I know that somewhat sounds contradictory, but let me compare usingā¦
Super Saiyajin VS. Gear 2nd:
Super Saiyajin
- Changes Hair Color
- His power levels massive!!!
- For no real reason, Ki (power) multiplies exponentially
- Same attacks; larger radius / more destruction
- Same names for attacks; maybe adds "super" to it
- Used abusively; IE: Always
- When weakened to the point of losing, you power up again and win with a super ultra Kamehameha. Unless you are Vageta; then you lose after bragging a lot.
Gear 2nd
- Uses DF Power to force the body to push itself harder. (by a lot).
- Allows much faster speed and power. Explained.
- Adds "Jet" to most moves to emphasize the speed change.
- Is very creative given the nature of the Devil Fruit.
- Is used when necessary, which frankly has been a fair amount since its introduction, but not always.
- Adds a steam effect to Luffy, and looks kewl :wub:
- Still says the token Gomu Gomu Noā¦
Some examples of Luffy's non Gear use since introduction: Duval Arc, Bounty Hunters on Shaboady, Zombies / Moria on TB, Tenryuubito's face, Garp's cannon balls. In fact, that is every arc sinceā¦.
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I just hope Oda doesn't go overboard with this, I think Gear 2nd and 3rd is ENOUGH! And I wish it was only used in rare occasions, but nope. Oda has Luffy pulling it out in every fight since he learned it. Luffy can't just Gomu Gomu anyone anymore.
Dammit Oda!
I think we need time before luffy can stop using gearsā¦ I have the feeling he'll become really really ill using it, and chopper we'll tell him it shorten his life. He needs to become stronger using nothing at all even his DF, 'cause when he'll fight BB, he won't be able to use his DF power...
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He needs to become stronger using nothing at all even his DF, 'cause when he'll fight BB, he won't be able to use his DF powerā¦
Luffy is rubber if he is under water, too. I think BB has the most advantage against logia. It will be funny if Ruffy lose his rubber body when he touch BB, but I doubt this.
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We all know that Luffy is uber-strong without his DF. The Gomu fruit only grants elasticity, not strength. He can bite through thin metal, lift giant boulders, pull the keel off a ship, crush boulders and stop a grown fishman in his tracks.
Blackbeard's DF completly nullifies the power of a devil fruit while in contact with him, unlike Seastone which makes the hammer lose the strength to utilize their power yet not take it away. I, personally can't wait to see Marshall fight Luffy. It'll show just how strong Luffy truly is and we might get to see some non Gomu Gomu, Gomu attacks (Wait, that sounds weird, I meant see him use some attacks that aren't Gomu-based)
I wish Oda would go Lee Pai-Long with it and show the weapons or object behind Luffy. That would kick major ass. -
It'll give too much indications to the enemy
So will Gumo Gumo No Pistolā¦
Which he screams every... single... time...*In terms of Luffy's 4th gear, I kinda like what was mentioned in another thread about cellular crystalization with rubber. Have Luffy stretch so much in such a small amount of time and make his cellular structure like that of diamond. Pretty kickass.
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*In terms of Luffy's 4th gear, I kinda like what was mentioned in another thread about cellular crystalization with rubber. Have Luffy stretch so much in such a small amount of time and make his cellular structure like that of diamond. Pretty kickass.
So he will exchange his damage reduction for blunt damage to immunity vs cutting?
All a swordsman has to do is attack him with the back of the sword and Luffy shatters. (If his cellular structure is like that of diamond it will most likely shatter as easily)
I personally hate the idea of diamond based powers.
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I think we need time before luffy can stop using gearsā¦ I have the feeling he'll become really really ill using it, and chopper we'll tell him it shorten his life. He needs to become stronger using nothing at all even his DF, 'cause when he'll fight BB, he won't be able to use his DF power...
If you think Luffy will stop using gears, then first, why would you want this to happen? second, how will this "improve" luffy?
As for luffy becoming ill. hahhaaā¦ Oda is so smart, i can't help but call him a genius. people easily forget that kuma extracted all the damage from luffy. he's had a clean damage reset to enter into the new world, and has his stronger body and attacks to unleash upon the unsuspecting pirates to come.
@Buuhan1 - how come you're being so critical of One Piece as of lately? Just curious. i'm not trying to attack you or anything. normally, you seem quite content with the story, but now it appears as though your disapproval is growing.
I have my own qualms with the One Piece story, so I'm just trying to see your frustration.
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I think he will just advance them. I.e. Stronger/Faster.
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If you think Luffy will stop using gears, then first, why would you want this to happen? second, how will this "improve" luffy?
As for luffy becoming ill. hahhaaā¦ Oda is so smart, i can't help but call him a genius. people easily forget that kuma extracted all the damage from luffy. he's had a clean damage reset to enter into the new world, and has his stronger body and attacks to unleash upon the unsuspecting pirates to come.
Because Luffy has been living with a heavy resistance to blunt damage for over a decade. Oda is smart so its unlikely he'll ignore the consequences of loosing a sublte but extremely important ability of Luffy's fruit. Especially when he's already shown the theme of powerful fighters being at a disadvantage once their damage resistances&immunities are taken away. Croc&Eneru are perfect examples of this, Ace was another much less severe example.
When your bones break they heal denser&harder than before. Being a Rubberman he's probably had far fewer broken bones compared to his crewmates so even though he's strong and been through a lot he's not in peak physical form as of yet, unlike AoKiji who seems to have trained his body so he's not so vulnerable just because he looses his physical damage immunity.
As for Luffy getting Ill, seems Kuma gave him a damage reset but that doesn't mean continuous use of Gear 2 won't hurt Luffy down the line. Also doubt Kuma's reset is retroactive and reversed all the internal damage he sustained from Lucci&Gear 2 in EL.
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So he will exchange his damage reduction for blunt damage to immunity vs cutting?
All a swordsman has to do is attack him with the back of the sword and Luffy shatters. (If his cellular structure is like that of diamond it will most likely shatter as easily)
I personally hate the idea of diamond based powers.
Quoted for Truth.
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hmmm, actually I think Oda has been upgraded Luffy's Gear. I'm saying this based on Moria's Arc. Luffy was doing Gear 2nd and 3rd at the same time. Maybe in the future, because his body has already been familiar with Gear 2nd, so he wont need to do Gear 2nd anymore but his attack and speed already at the same level with Gear 2nd
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Oda will upgrade gears only in one way - Luffy's stamina, so he can last longer in Gear 2
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Luffy has used the Gears on Gecko and Oz so far, in addition to Kuma and dozens (?) of Naval-Marines. Not exactly over doing it as he had fine reason to use them.
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He's depending too much on his Gear 2nd and 3rd now. He's taking way too much advantage of them, and needs to remember that he can fight without using Gear 2nd.
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Har Har Har: I say when the Strawhats reach Elbaf, some giant becomes the antagonist of the arc and when Luffy faces him he showcases Gear 3**.2** by inflating every bone in his body and fighting as a Giant himself. And at the end shrinks into a Microscopic organism for a few minutesā¦..
Ahh yeah! That would be cool!!
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Well so Zoro have to stop using his pound cannons. Sanji his Diable Jambe and Mouton shots. Nami her Thunder charge. Chopper his Rumble Balls. Ussop his Kabuto. Robin her DF. Franky and Brook should do nothingā¦
Well it's normally to use new leraned moves
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I don't get the negativity from people about others not liking the frequent use of gears.
Telling me it didn't get boring and tedious having everybodies hair turn Gold in DBZ just to fight? Ichigo constantly going Bankai when other characters don't automatically do so? Alucard releasing seal 1 or 0 every fight? Seeing Vash's angel arm every battle? Digimon going Mega to handle non mega's? lol I gotta stop, but you get my point.
Seems a perfectly reasonable complaint.
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Youā¦.commented yourself. wut?
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Youā¦.commented yourself. wut?
Me? Whyā¦.yes I did! I quoted myself from somewhere else where I quoted myself from here. Wait, what?
I don't get the negativity from people about others not liking the frequent use of gears.
I don't know about other people, but I myself do not see how they have been used frequently just yet. I mean it has only been two arcs since CP9 right? Or something like that. Thriller Bark(q/que?) only had Luffy use his Gear 3rd once right, and that was to break Odz's back? And Luffy didn't use any Gears during the Duval Arc right? And Luffy did fight the few bounty hunters / guards we saw on the Mangroves up until the Marines surrounded the building right? And even then Luffy only used Gear 3rd (from my perspective) as a way to show the three Supernovae using their Devil Fruit's without holding back. Then Luffy states when facing Kuma, "I will not hold back" before using Gear 2nd.
So, of the 6 or so fights / scuffles since he showed the Gears, he has only used them twice for a reasonable situation, and once just for show (along with the other two SN's)
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Yeah, Luffy only used Gear Third to flex his muscle in front of his rivals and was under the impression Kuma was on Moria's level or higher.
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Gear 3rd has no side effects other than goin chibi right? I think think thats ta case so yea Luffy should use whenever he feel like itā¦