Chapter 448 - "Moria" Discussion
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I got bored:
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'Actually, i'm an old man with a big wound'
Man! that was so funny XD
Anyways, we got ourselves a match-up to Zoro? i don't think that 'Moria' is that Guardian. -
so the Shichibukai is called Moria.
And my girldfriend is called Moira.
ô,o
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i still think that the guy with the sword is related to t-bone but if he fight zorro, i don't know how can zorro beat him without his three sword so maybe he will have to find another one before fighting this guy
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ROFL
Man, this chapter is made up of so much win!
- Zoro acting tough and gets depressed next sec AND gets mocked by Sanji;
- Luffy pushing Zombie back into ground(this one page majorly cracks me up)
- 600 Million Jackpot!
- New Shichibukai
Awsome awsome chapter, which makes it harder to believe there's no chapter next week ><
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Actually some Nitoryuu style would be interesting. To see Zoro dealing with it.
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or maybe it's time for him to have the evil spirit sword ! a spirit blade like when the match with sanji during the davy back fight
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nice chapter (334)
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I thought it was funny how Luffy, Zoro and Franky were acting depressed after the ghost passed through them, especially Sanji's reaction. And I like how Oda decided to give the characters another chance to do a combo attack. We haven't seen one of those in a long time. Not since Alabasta, or Skypiea. I'm not really sure.
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ROFL
- Luffy pushing Zombie back into ground(this one page majorly cracks me up)
Ya Rly. That was definately the best part of the chapter, IMO.
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When I saw Nami do the whole "I'm in mortal danger, ooo, treasure… ." thing, it made me wonder if she's become sort of a parody of herself in that regard.
We know you like money, but I'd expect now that you don't have to try and deal with Arlong Mortgage Ltd, you'd be a bit more sane about it.
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I don't know, he seems kinda lazy and full of himself all with the whole "easily liberating islands and such". We'll see how it plays out but, I think it's perfectly set up for a OHKO for irony's sake with how Bellamy got handled. Who knows , I might be completely wrong.
OHKO a Shichibukai?:wassat: Very unlikely. These are men who are a world power. The Shichibukai can rival the Emperors and the Marines. Lets not forget that Luffy barely survived against Crocodile.
DoFlamingo is going to be a very tough future arc boss.
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thankyou for the chapter and the trans :D
very interesting chapter indeed ^^
I really like the joke about the ghost XD and Luffy with the Zombie XD
and we have shicibukai here….. hmm...
a ghost with katana...... soo interesting.....
and that's really a jackpot XD poor zombies...
and for my personal interest, I really like how Zoro talk more to Robin ^^ and the way Robin pat Cerberus, the Cerberus look happy ^^ heck, he even look hapier when Sanji and Robin riding on him XD
too bad we have to wait 2 weeks.... arrgh... it's going to be a long long week... ;; -
OHKO a Shichibukai?:wassat: Very unlikely.
It would be a very good surprise tough. Think about it. First he OHKO Gecko and after that gets beaten up by Jinbei. But I doubt that will happen.
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Depends on Moria's powers. I think he'll have the Kage Kage No Mi, shadow manipulation and such. His weakness would be light most likely. I think he'll look vampire-ish.
It'd be cool if the guardian IS Moria, giving a shichibukai not to Luffy for once, but to Zoro. It would also bump up his bounty quite abit if Moria is a pretty public guy. But I'm sure he's pretty shady like Mihawk.
Imagine, Zoro getting Moria's sword, and possibly the sword ate the Kage Kage No Mi, but that would cheapen Zoro's power up quite abit. It would be like Sanji and Franky getting DFs.
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I don't think that Luffy would get a rise in bounty for defeating Moria. Every time he had a rise in bounty was when the Marines witnessed his prowess. Arlong…Crocodile...Enies Lobby. Marines were present at all those incidents.
There are no Marines here, and the Shibukai aren't exactly reporting in every day...So it would be a while before anyone would even know about it.
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I don't think that Luffy would get a rise in bounty for defeating Moria. Every time he had a rise in bounty was when the Marines witnessed his prowess. Arlong…Crocodile...Enies Lobby. Marines were present at all those incidents.
There are no Marines here, and the Shibukai aren't exactly reporting in every day...So it would be a while before anyone would even know about it.
Well Thriller Bark may be in control of the Marines for all we know. I mean it's not a substantial leap of fate thinking that they're using the place for experiments on how to create undying soldiers or maybe Hogback is getting funding from WG to do what he's doing for all of the results he gets on the experiments, so it's not impossible that there are foot soldiers hiding all around the zombie island. Then again, it's Eiichido Oda for christ sakes. Nobody really knows what he's thinking
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Probaly the katana the Guardian has is a Demon Splitter?
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@AD-HD:
It would be a very good surprise tough. Think about it. First he OHKO Gecko and after that gets beaten up by Jinbei. But I doubt that will happen.
No, to see any kind of world power member OHKO would suck for the story.
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No, to see any kind of world power member OHKO would suck for the story.
For you maybe.
I would love to see Luffy/Buggy/Foxy to OHKO someone from Shichibukais.
But that's just me. -
No, it is not for me it is for the story. To see any world power member get OHKO would be disapointing and pathetic. What if Buggy goes and OHKO one of the Emperors or an Admiral? It just wouldn't make sense.
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If Buggy would OHKO someone from World Powers it would be great surprise if anything. And I would dance for happines.
And it doesn't have to make any sense. This is Oda we are talking about. Buggy is his favorite villain. -
Hello everyone, I'm new here. Anyway, I joined here to note that no one seemed to notice the Guardian's laugh is "Yo ho ho ho", the same as Brook's laugh. I think the Guardian might be Brook's shadow which still looks alive since the shadow might have been stolen before Brook's body decayed.
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If Buggy would OHKO someone from World Powers it would be great surprise if anything. And I would dance for happines.
And it doesn't have to make any sense. This is Oda we are talking about. Buggy is his favorite villainI see, you are going off your own preferences, not for the sake of the story. I should have known by looking at your avatar and sig.
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I see, you are going off your own preferences, not for the sake of the story. I should have known by looking at your avatar and sig.
Well yeah. I like Buggy and I would certainly love to see him OHKO someone from Shichibukais. That would be pretty cool underdog match.
And how the hell that would hurt story? -
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Well yeah. I like Buggy and I would certainly love to see him OHKO someone from Shichibukais. That would be pretty cool underdog match.
And how the hell that would hurt story?So, from your last posts, I take it that you don't like the Shichibukai? Also, for someone of Buggy's calibur to OHKO a Shichibukai member would hurt the story because he is not a big threat to anyone. Do you understand that a Shichibukai member beat Luffy into submission a couple of times?
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@Gecko:
Hello everyone, I'm new here. Anyway, I joined here to note that no one seemed to notice the Guardian's laugh is "Yo ho ho ho", the same as Brook's laugh.
This has been noted several times…..
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So from your last posts, I take it that you don't like the Shichibukai?
I did like Crocodile.
Also, for someone of Buggy's calibur to OHKO a Shichibukai member would hurt the story because he is not a big threat to anyone.
Buggy's calibur? We don't even know that how big is that calibur. Krieg survived in Grand Line seven days and he was "King of East Blue" or something like that. Buggy seems to be doing just fine. And that fight with Luffy? They didn't even fought seriously.
And I think that it wouldn't hurt the story. It just would be big (and cool) surprise.
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@AD-HD:
I did like Crocodile.
Buggy's calibur? We don't even know that how big is that calibur. Krieg survived in Grand Line seven days and he was "King of East Blue" or something like that. Buggy seems to be doing just fine. And that fight with Luffy? They didn't even fought seriously.
And I think that it wouldn't hurt the story. It just would be big (and cool) surprise.
Yeah, I thought as much. You have anomosity towards the Shichibukai.
Well, Krieg was sent home packing because he ran into a Shichibukai member. Also, I believe Buggy will be at the New World sooner or later but he is not going to OHKO any heavy hitters (World powers). He is not powerful enough to do that. The World powers are serious business, Buggy is not on their level to OHKO any member that hold's the world in balance. It would be bad for the story.
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What ever.
I think that it would be cool and you think that it would hurt the story. Can we leave this on that? -
No problem, I was about to say the same.
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HERE'S WHAT ADMIRAL WOLFPOX (me) THINKS!
Gecko Moria will steal Luffy's shadow, and then he will not be affected by Blackbeard's black hole powers!
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Gecko Moria will steal Luffy's shadow, and then he will not be affected by Blackbeard's black hole powers!
Joke, right?
Cuz' otherwise Luffy can't leave Thriller Bark. -
As cliche as it sounds it would be cool to see Gecko steal Luffy's shadow and have him fight it.
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Luffy pushing the zombie back into the ground is now officially the most hilarious part in this arc so far.
Other than that and them getting depressed by the ghosts, the chapter wasn't that good though, sadly.
Edit: ok, now that I read it with an actual translation it was pretty fucking funny, the most hilarious chapter for months. I'm actually laughing out loud here. The jackpot thing is pretty lame though.
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Of course, the question is…What does stealing a shadow do for the theif? Or does it mainly weaken the opponent? Oh...Can you steal the shadow of something that is not alive..like the shadow of a lamp or a rock?
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What's with all the facefaults in this chapter?
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Onigumo
Of course, the question is…What does stealing a shadow do for the theif? Or does it mainly weaken the opponent? Oh...Can you steal the shadow of something that is not alive..like the shadow of a lamp or a rock?think that so the thief(gecko) could use the special abilitys of the person who the shadow belong to…...like combinate persons in one superperson
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The jackpot thing is pretty lame though.
That's exactly what I thought… and I hope it won't come again.
But the chapter was good. I didn't expect this arc to have a "main villain", and I still hope it will stay quite short but now that a shichibukai is indroduced I think it will be relativly long after all... we'll see! -
Huh, what would these be for Crocodile?
It's true that Crocodile doesn't have the immediate resemblence to a croc that Mihawk does to a hawk, or DoFlamingo does to a flamingo – but if you look closer, you'll see many similarities. For example, Crocodile's mouth extends across his face almost as far as his distinctive scar does. Croc's also nearly always "smiling" regardless of his feelings -- a trait that is commonly associated with crocodiles (and dolphins too), because of the shape of their mouth -- they can't "un-smile" without rearranging their jaw.
Croc's eyes are crocodile-like too : crocodile eyes often appear to be half-closed or "sleepy" (this gives the crocodile's prey a false impression that the animal is not paying attention. When the prey feels safe, it becomes careless around the croc, which of course means it also becomes dinner for the croc! ;)
Crocodiles move quickly and decisively, in spite of their somewhat "bulky" bodyshape. The same can be said of Croc as well. And finally, Croc's distinctive vest may not be the same color as a typical crocodile, but the pattern on the vest-fabic closely resembles the "armored" back and belly of a crocodile.
[My apologies to the websites I've borrowed these pics from]
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Waitaminute, was that Guardian is actully Gecko Moria?
We don't know for sure yet, joekiddo – but it's irresistable for us Zoro fans to assume so, since it means Zoro could have the opportunity to fight another Shichibukai before fighting Mihawk again.
As well as Zoro putting a sword in his mouth while his right arm remains vacant.
oh – good eye, sabert00the! I didn't notice that at first.
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Damn.
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Doesn't look like Zoro has any desire to adapt his style to the reality of 2-1/2 katana -- if he did, he'd have held Wado in his vacant hand and put Yubashiri between his teeth.
sigh
Ok, Meh I concede : your theory about Zoro's swords is more likely than mine now!
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This, folks, is the reason why I love One Piece. A perfect blend of mystery, suspense, action, and silliness.
With each progession of the story, I feel moreso that Brooke not only won't join but also wont' show up until the end of the story.
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@Pass:
With each progession of the story, I feel moreso that Brooke not only won't join but also wont' show up until the end of the story.
I think its too soon to say that.
The fact that they've metioned Brooke in each chapter in some way or another and the added connection between HogBack and the Katana man makes me think that Oda want's us to keep him on the mind.
And remember, Brooke doesn't know the SH's are on the Island. He is most likely looking to fight Moria, who is the keeper of all the shadows. It wouldn't make sense if he was already with the SH's who he thought got out when they had the chance.
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In my book, this chapter is a 10 out of 10. I've read the part where Luffy pushes the zombie back into the ground several times and have laughed just as much as when I first saw it.
As for Moria's Devil's Fruit ability, most likely the kage kage fruit, I think that it has the power to create an evil doppleganger of a person from their shadow that Moria can control in some way.
And Zoro will probably end up getting a new sword as well - the one the Guardian was carrying. -
Again, Oda surprises me. I had guessed they would bump into another schichibukai, but I was completely off the mark on who it would be. On a side note, Cindry would be a fun addition to the crew. Not only would Sanji have to lock the fridge, he'd have to lock the cupboards so Cindry wouldn't break all the plates. ;)
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-Crocodile resembling his namesake things-
I always saw his scar as rather Croc-toothy looking. Or was that just me?
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Nice progress by Oda..
i hope Gecko Moria is a female Shichibukai.. sexy, vicious, sadist, bloodthirsty, and youngster..
'bout her/ his bounty, i suppose > 500 k Berri, which i mean = 674.000.000 Berri.. -
In my book, this chapter is a 10 out of 10. I've read the part where Luffy pushes the zombie back into the ground several times and have laughed just as much as when I first saw it.
I liked that bit too, but 10 out of 10? Nah.
Oda could have done A LOT better with the goings-on in the mansion. The introduction of Hogback was too… uninteresting. I'd give the latest chapter around a 7. The previous chapters before it get around a 5 or a 6.
The arc is getting better though. But I cannot see Luffy and Moria having a big, bloody battle. In the other mini arcs we've seen... Luffy fights Smoker and it gets interupted, Luffy fights Bellamy (not the main villian, Donflamingo) and OHKO's him (without a big, bloody battle), and fights Aokiji in a short fight.
In each mini arc, he fights people that will come back later on in the series (except Bellamy, but Donflamingo will surely get Luffy for that fight). I think Gecko Moria will not just go down and lose to Luffy... Moria will live and remain free after this arc.
Nice progress by Oda..
i hope Gecko Moria is a female Shichibukai.. sexy, vicious, sadist, bloodthirsty, and youngster..
'bout her/ his bounty, i suppose > 500 k Berri, which i mean = 674.000.000 Berri..Well, considering the old guy said "A man named Moria"… Moria being a woman would be shocking.
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In each mini arc, he fights people that will come back later on in the series (except Bellamy, but Donflamingo will surely get Luffy for that fight). I think Gecko Moria will not just go down and lose to Luffy… Moria will live and remain free after this arc.
moria will be the arc-boss and so he must fight again luffy….and why should moria than go when they begin to fight...
Moria:
ok.i see you are are taff enemy...we will see us in the new world...here are the shadows back.
Luffy:
ohh yeah brook is now able to come with us lolnono want a fight between them or this arc is for nothing good...or is their any sense for this arc...(like in davybackfightarc was it, luffy never will lose a nakama..):happy:
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@$abZ:
But I cannot see Luffy and Moria having a big, bloody battle …
That's because – (assuming the zombie swordsman really is Moria) -- he's gonna have a big bloody battle with Zoro instead …
(yep, I just woke up, but I'm still dreamin')
p.s. Strange one -- you're right, Croc's scar does look like a mouth full of sharp teeth. That's interesting! I never thought of it like that before.
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@Don:
moria will be the arc-boss and so he must fight again luffy….and why should moria than go when they begin to fight...
Moria:
ok.i see you are are taff enemy...we will see us in the new world...here are the shadows back.
Luffy:
ohh yeah brook is now able to come with us lolnono want a fight between them or this arc is for nothing good...or is their any sense for this arc...(like in davybackfightarc was it, luffy never will lose a nakama..):happy:
Okay that isn't even close to the only way a fight between Luffy and Moria could end without Luffy fully defeating him. You don't even know anything about Moria, anything could happen.