I wasnt ever trying to deny his involvement in the process, just the notion that OmG, thid has never happened before.
Most of the DB movies are filled with Toriyama stuff, since they usually went to Toriyama first to ask for ideas and designs and then they worked from there.
Look at the Androids 13,14,15 and tell that isnt Toriyama. A short purple dude with a big hat? Has no rhyme or reason but it just works somehow. Loved it then, love it now.But thats the difference betwen StrongWorld and Film Z in OP.
Strongworld actually started in Oda's head, he had the characters and lore floating around in his head and managed to get a movie to play around with those ideas, while Film Z had Oda' s involvement and approval but it was the studio that made the characters and plot.
Both movies are great and had Oda's attention and touch, but one of them clearly was more Oda than the other.The Bils name thing was early on in the process, Toriyama sent his first sketches saying the character name was Birusus (my attemp at the japanese spelling), but he didnt say Oh, thats meant to be read as Virus.
The movie team saw it and thought Well, its DB, it must be a food pun, Beer, and went with it. When they showed Toriyama what they had been working on he was surprised that was how they read the name but liked the concept and approved.
But Im aware Im kinda talking out of my butt like this, so Ill try to find said interview later, to confirm Im not misremembering anything.Havent seen the new Brolly movie, Battle of the Gods was nice enough but the Golden Frieza really left a poor taste in my mouth (despite the fucking awesome Maximum the Hormone track), so I havent gotten around to finally see it.
And I really gotta catch up with the Super manga.Just on a final note, I fucking love DB. Its amazingly designed.
I relate to Gregs story of being a huge DB and then finding OP which replaced the former as favorite series.
Thats why I cant fall for these things anymore. Toriyama had a touch/influence on this spin off? Cool but he does that alot and its a big difference betwen him helping out and him actually doing the full work.
So, I remembered the story but the characters were on the wrong side.
It was the director who initially created Virus, who actually spread some sort of malice, and then Toriyama though he meant Beer and went with it.
So I gotta admit my bad there, sorry. Link
But I still maintain my point, Toriyama actually doing the final work or the bulk of the work is very different from when he just reviews stuff and lets someone else do the final piece.