Wow… They letting Yosmite Sam have his weapons back for this movie, while they wouldn't let him them for those recent shorts on HBO Max.
Space Jam 2
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. . . . I'm not sure I like seeing Looney Tunes in CGI.
Also, dare I say, are they taking this TOO seriously?
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If they ever make an Iron Giant sequel, I bet the Iron Giant would only make a cameo.
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Dude they actually put Pennywise and…Clockwork Orange what?
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So I'm guessing there were three to five days of having extras on set dressed as Nicholson's Joker, Devito's Penguin, Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze, and others, and all they had to do was cheer and boo. That must've been fun.
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Considering they got freaking Gabriel Iglasies to play him, I'm surprised I'm not seeing a lot of Speedy in this. If I missed him, it was WB's intention.edit-
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Feels like a pseudo-sequel to “Ready,Player One” lol.
But eh, pretty much what I expected,nonsense plot with Loony Tunes. What I WASN'T expecting was all the cameos but hey I ain't complaining, I was literally howling when I saw the H-B characters, that was a major treat. Likewise happy they're allowing 2D along with the 3D, great compromise. Though admittedly the 2D section doesn't look as polished as the original. LeBron's model could've used some tweaking too I feel, his face looks a bit too stretched.
Only thing I wasn't really feeling was the villains. So they're just fighting elementals this time and only meet them during the game? Eh doesn't have the same punch as the MonStars , least they had some personality and purpose to them when the original SJ trailer hit, I'm really getting nothing here. But eh, first trailer, we'll see when any more drop or if the movie does more with them. Also minor nitpick but does the court have to be so small? The last movie was in a stadium and allowed the characters breathing room, this feels like they're in a cage match. I know it's to showcase all the cameos but looks so claustrophobic.
Otherwise what can I say, its looks fun, that's all I can really ask for. Hopefully it will be come July (barring delays).
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Mmm, yeah CGI Looney Tunes just ain't doin' it for me.
The rest of the movie looks okay and I certainly wasn't expecting Iron Giant and the HB characters. Though it does seem a bit like WB is showing off with "Hey! Look at all the characters we own!"
So, yeah, just like Ralph Breaks the Internet.
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I see a lot of comparisons to Ralph Wrecks The Internet and Ready Player One and, for the life of me, can't figure out what The Lego Batman Movie did to earn this level of disrespect.
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The only truly important thing is the original 1996 website for the first movie is still up and untouched, a true artifact of its time.
They only just updated it, and all the legacy content is gone. End of an era, but it was nice to revisit while it lasted.
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They only just updated it, and all the legacy content is gone. End of an era, but it was nice to revisit while it lasted.
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Considering they got freaking Gabriel Iglasies to play him, I'm surprised I'm not seeing a lot of Speedy in this. If I missed him, it was WB's intention.Seth McFarlane got him for like a 10 second cutaway on one episode of Family Guy.
The modern show a decade ago had Lola going after Bugs and it was okay there because Bugs wa never scared or in danger and any suffering was generally his own doing for agreeing to something when he could have said no.
Well sure if you overlook Lola essentially stalking Bugs in at least one of those episodes…...that and Lola being rewritten as "crazy".
Wow… They letting Yosmite Sam have his weapons back for this movie, while they wouldn't let him them for those recent shorts on HBO Max.
Movie executives think a bit differently than TV Network executives.
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Seth McFarlane got him for like a 10 second cutaway on one episode of Family Guy.
But he's voicing one of the Looney Tunes. A classic one everyone knows. I doubt they did that because they couldn't find another Mexican to voice him. WB's clearly hoping to score brownie points with Mexicans and progressives with this, so you'd think they'd be advertising him.
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@Mr.:
But he's voicing one of the Looney Tunes. A classic one everyone knows. I doubt they did that because they couldn't find another Mexican to voice him. WB's clearly hoping to score brownie points with Mexicans and progressives with this, so you'd think they'd be advertising him.
I guess but I don't know what's their reasoning.
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Well, if there's two good things I can say for this trailer:
1. Seeing the Hanna-Barbera guys is nice
2. LeBron seems to be a better actor than Michael Jordon was.@Mr.:
Considering they got freaking Gabriel Iglasies to play him, I'm surprised I'm not seeing a lot of Speedy in this. If I missed him, it was WB's intention.
He's only there for two half-second shots. And I only saw that because I was looking for him.
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2. LeBron seems to be a better actor than Michael Jordon was.
To be fair Jordan much like LeBron wasn't hired for his acting chops.
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Of course not, but it speaks well of LeBron that he can act better.
Extra point for the animators: Look at the shape of the dust cloud after LeBron lands in Tune World.
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So Pepe Lepew is off limits, but the Clockwork Orange trio and Pennywise the Clown and the Night King are fine.
"Ah yes, a bit of the old ultra-violence in the looney tunes basketball kids movie. Lets put that whacky british rape gang in this kids movie. But the flirty skunk has got to go."
Got it.
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2. LeBron seems to be a better actor than Michael Jordon was.
Better than bottom of the barrel isn't really a compliment thou.
I heard James' scream when he was a squashed cartoon character and thought, "That's not the sound you make when your body has been twice deformed. That's the sound you make when you knock something unimportant off a table with your elbow." So I'm not seeing the improvement.
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If they wanted to expand the cast that badly why didn't they tap into the Hannah Barbera and Cartoon Network IPs that they own?
They really picked Pennywise over Scooby Doo?
I love The Iron Giant, but is it really more popular than The Powerpuff Girls?
What about all the animated incarnations of DC characters they own the rights to?Why not make a deal with Disney and turn it into a spiritual successor to Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Now I don't know if I should expect to find Mel Gibson on the cross in the background somewhere.
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I haven't watched Space Jam since I was a little kid, like really little
I remember loving it completely as a kid, but I also used to love the super mario brothers movie and Jar Jar Binks, so that's not really saying much
Does it still hold up today
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I haven't watched Space Jam since I was a little kid, like really little
I remember loving it completely as a kid, but I also used to love the super mario brothers movie and Jar Jar Binks, so that's not really saying much
Does it still hold up today
It really doesn't unfortunately.
Michael Jordan can't act.
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It really doesn't unfortunately.
Michael Jordan can't act.
I knew it! Never trust my younger self
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So Pepe Lepew is off limits, but the Clockwork Orange trio and Pennywise the Clown and the Night King are fine.
"Ah yes, a bit of the old ultra-violence in the looney tunes basketball kids movie. Lets put that whacky british rape gang in this kids movie. But the flirty skunk has got to go."
Got it.
It's bizarre. Out of all the characters under the Warner Brothers name, they include THAT? A Clockwork Orange is like . . . the most "not for kids" movie in existence.
They really picked Pennywise over Scooby Doo?
Scooby and the gang are there. You can see the Mystery Machine right before the Iron Giant steps down.
Does it still hold up today
Only if you accept it for what it is. Stupid fun. Nostalgic stupid fun. There is no point, no meaning, no merit, the only reason to watch it is to see the Looney Tunes and the MonStars, Michael Jordon might as well not even be in it. But if you turn your brain off, it can still be fun.
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If they wanted to expand the cast that badly why didn't they tap into the Hannah Barbera and Cartoon Network IPs that they own?
Did you… not watch the video? Or look at the screenshot?
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Did you… not watch the video? Or look at the screenshot?
I watched the trailer twice, but I probably didn't look that closely because I'm really not that interested in seeing the movie.
It also probably didn't help that I watched it on my phone both times.The main reason I'm interested now is because of how bizarre it is that they put the main characters of A Clockwork Orange in the movie, and skimming through Black Nerd Comedy's video it seems like the cast of Game of Thrones is going to make a cameo?
It's one of the most bizarre choices I've heard about for a kids movie in a while.
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Not Space Jam related but this is the only day this clip will ever be appropriate.
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Of course not, but it speaks well of LeBron that he can act better.
Extra point for the animators: Look at the shape of the dust cloud after LeBron lands in Tune World.
He has a little more experience than Jordan. Jordan had only really done commercials before Space Jam. LeBron was pretty damn funny in Trainwreck and
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The kids cartoon character who portrays sexual molestation as funny and acceptable versus the character from an r-rated movie where rape is a crime he's punished for. Same thing, clearly.
You guys would have a heart attack if you ever rewatched Animaniacs or Tiny Toons and saw how many r-rated movies get referenced. Or ANY cartoon from the 90s that reference– wait, you too are older than me. What the fuck?
Game of Thrones is going to make a cameo?
To promote the glut of GoT spinoffs HBO max has coming out.
Pretty sure that's why the HB characters get to steal a scene, to promote Jellystone.
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Not Space Jam related but this is the only day this clip will ever be appropriate.
you're right. it is appropriate.
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You guys would have a heart attack if you ever rewatched Animaniacs or Tiny Toons and saw how many r-rated movies get referenced. Or ANY cartoon from the 90s that reference– wait, you too are older than me. What the fuck?
Context is important.
Yes, cartoons have adult humor all the time. Ooh, Yakko said to "finger Prince" and Dot made a sex joke! Or cameos from things like Aliens or Terminator because those saturated pop culture so strongly. Wayne's WOrld made caemos in things despite being loaded with sex jokes.
But grabbing from a 50 year old movie where characters wear prominent fake phalluses and did a lot of raping and bad stuff… and putting them in the front row of a crowd scene where their all white outfits makes them pop out? So prominent that they make it into the trailer?
If they were way in the back that'd be one thing. Just one image from the library in the back among hundreds. But like that?
Someone had to make costumes, hire actors, film it, then edit them in, while a bunch of special effects were then put in front of that. A lot of time, money, and energy went into getting those particular characters there... and NO ONE along the way questioned it?
I'm sure its ultimately a blink and miss it moment, the trailer might be the full extent of their appearance, (or they might be removed entirely now that the internet has noticed) but it DOES show that whoever was in charge that demanded Pepe be removed... wasn't being super consistent. Nor did they actually care.
But mostly rapists from an X-rated film shouldn't be in a kids movie. Neither should Superman be snapping necks. There ARE things you shouldn't do.
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But grabbing from a 50 year old movie where characters wear prominent fake phalluses and did a lot of raping and bad stuff… and putting them in the front row of a crowd scene where their all white outfits makes them pop out? So prominent that they make it into the trailer?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but I can at least understand your stance on not having rapists in a kids mo-
If they were way in the back that'd be one thing.
And now it's okay if they're in the background. Back to not understanding.
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@Mr.:
The kids cartoon character who portrays sexual molestation as funny and acceptable versus the character from an r-rated movie where rape is a crime he's punished for. Same thing, clearly.
You guys would have a heart attack if you ever rewatched Animaniacs or Tiny Toons and saw how many r-rated movies get referenced. Or ANY cartoon from the 90s that reference– wait, you too are older than me. What the fuck?
To promote the glut of GoT spinoffs HBO max has coming out.
Pretty sure that's why the HB characters get to steal a scene, to promote Jellystone.
I feel like most people don't understand the problem with Pepe Le Pew. He definitely doesn't portray sexual assault as acceptable, and the sexual assault attempts are meant to be funny solely because they're part of an ethnic stereotype.
Pepe Le Pew is like a minstrel show that mocks French people instead of black people.
His victim explicitly runs from him solely because he smells horrible (get it, just like stereotypical French people who never bathe).
He's greasy, creepy and desperate.
He uses random French in his constant attempts to pick up women.I know it's not a perfect analogy, but imagine a Pinky & The Brain-esque cartoon starring a Saudi stereotype rat who constantly tries (and fails) to blow up the World Trade Center.
It's obvious that the joke in that scenario is the blatant racism, not the three thousand people who died in the real life 9/11.
It would definitely be insensitive to the people affected by those deaths, just like how Pepe cartoons are grossly insensitive to women who have been sexually assaulted, but the majority of the audience is not going "haha he's got the bitch this time!"
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And now it's okay if they're in the background. Back to not understanding.
Because if they were really far in the back, amongst hundreds of thousands of other properties, it could arguably be a case of they literally went through their archive and grabbed stock footage from EVERYTHING in the library and just CG dropped it in the back, alongside Casblanca and Caddy Shack. That no real thought went into it and it was like 10 minutes of work for a bored intern and that it just slipped by because they were one blob among hundreds. Kind of like finding the ET aliens in the Star Wars senate.
That they created costumes, hired actors, filmed them, sought out whoever originally worked on them 50 years ago to make sure they got royalties, and put them in the front row… means it was a prolonged active choice on multiple fronts that took a lot of time. Someone really wanted to put them there, it wasn't just a lark or an accident or a joke someone slipped in under the radar... a lot of people thought it was a good idea and spent a lot of time and effort and money making it happen.
Like, Lion-O and Cheetarah from the THundercats are in there. If it was an old hand drawn paste in you'd say "oh, they cut an paste that, that's cute". But its a full blown brand new CG model that someone spent weeks or even months on. And it was done JUST for this movie. You KNOW they had to think of and approve that way in advance before it was implemented. Iron Giant they at least probably had the model lying around from Ready Player One, the Scooby Doo gang seem to be the same models as their recent movie, and the Hanna Barbera characters have projects coming up that they'll be able to use those for, so none of those were excessive effort, but Thundercats was definitely a time sink purely for its own sake. Or the fact that in the front rows you have 60's Penguin next to 90's Penguin next to Ahnuld's Mr. Freeze. Someone thought of that joke, and went through a huge process to implement it.
It's the difference in effort, and in deniability, and in just how many people had to agree it was a good idea for it to get there, THAT prominently.
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They're laughing at how pathetic Pepe himself is and enjoying the schadenfreude of seeing him fail and suffer, and by extension laughing at French people as a whole.
That's the joke, yeah, but like we said, it would be funnier if Penelope got angry, instead the constant look on her face is horror. There's also the fact that Pepe is always kissing her face, which as a woman I can say is just cringe-worthy, not funny. It probably would be funnier if he were kissing her hand (which isn't that what flirty Frenchmen do?).
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Again how hard is it to re-write a character other then what they keep complaining what he was in the past. The shorts were long long time ago, is total erasure just the go-to answer for stuff that was consider acceptable back then cause the shorts ain't going away anytime soon.
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That's the joke, yeah, but like we said, it would be funnier if Penelope got angry, instead the constant look on her face is horror. There's also the fact that Pepe is always kissing her face, which as a woman I can say is just cringe-worthy, not funny. It probably would be funnier if he were kissing her hand (which isn't that what flirty Frenchmen do?).
I know I've seen him do the hand kiss thing.
I think it's been a long time since most of us have seen his cartoons, and when I went back to watch one recently… it really wasn't worth revisiting.
I don't think I ever thought they were funny as a kid, I just watched them because they were on.
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…. what in the Matrix Hell?
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You'd think a movie making a Matrix reference: a gag that was lazy & old by the time it was parodied in Shrek,
in the year TWO THOUSAND AND ONE, a full twenty years ago, would be bad enough but no:Oh, no no no, that's not all:
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…. what in the Matrix Hell?
If it was just Speedy it might be funnier (Gabriel Iglesias sounds good!), but as said, very outdated.
Oh, no no no, that's not all:
. . . . no. Porky Pig was NOT MEANT TO RAP. NONE of the toons are. Porky dropping a beat? Maybe. Rap? Never.
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I guess this movie is actively trying to be worse than the original. And also pretend it's still 2001. Except these jokes still would have been embarrassing even back then.
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. . . . no. Porky Pig was NOT MEANT TO RAP. NONE of the toons are. Porky dropping a beat? Maybe. Rap? Never.
You're buggin:ninja:
I guess this movie is actively trying to be worse than the original. And also pretend it's still 2001. Except these jokes still would have been embarrassing even back then.
I mean the original had a throw away reference to Pulp Fiction two years after the movie came out.
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Saw the movie (first time in a theater since 2019!) and as someone who doesn't have nostalgia for the first Space Jam movie or the old Looney Tunes cartoons, I thought it was plenty entertaining. I liked the first movie's Tunes humor better, but thought LeBron had a better presence compared to Jordan and the climactic game had a better structure.