And yet we haven't seen nothing of Majestic, but given that he was the mentor to pin-up fan favorite Momo, sure give him Crust spot he can't be lamer than that.
My Hero Academia II - A true Hero
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I never cared for her but I really like mt Lady at the end of this chapter
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Seeing Mt. Lady being so useful really makes Crust's contribution look even worse.
That was an unfortunate match up though. He was like at the epicenter of Shiggy improved decay which nobody could stop.
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Just saw that a new OVA will be out on the 15th in 2 episodes on crunchyroll. It takes place in season 3.
Just looking at the teaser image. I wonder if they intentionally put Bakugo in the front of Todoroki and Deku due to his ranking above them in polls.
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Bakugo will be reveled the true MC when we reach the BACK U GO arc.
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Bakugo will be reveled the true MC when we reach the BACK U GO arc.
Not a fan of that time travel theory.
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Mei bootlegs a time machine using Mt. Lady's Quirk, and the surviving 1-A kids go back in time to retrieve all of the Quirks All For One gifted Shigaraki so they can bring back the other half of the universe.
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Not a fan of that time travel theory.
Neither do I, but I doesn't prevent me to joke about that theory shivers.
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! so Ashido's ran into Machia that day, huh. As much as I like Kirishima getting it, I still have an odd taste in my mouth because Mina didn't get it. Why have her job just to give Kirashima the dunk? I know it was to redeem him from that day, but I dunno…
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! I'm also annoyed at Mina faltering. Not succeeding because of Machia's or a villain's interference? I could live with that. But having her nerve falter feels very contrary to her character and the exact opposite of what she did a year ago.
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! This was disappointing.
! I'm all for characters failing, but having Mina, a character who got nothing so far, failing exclusively so Kirishima succeed in her place, was really frustrating.
Particularly when the reason given for it feels so stupidly forced (this random guy gave her a scare one afternoon, an event apparently so traumatizing she can recognize his voice instantly years later, and just hearing it is enough to destabilized her to the point she freezes in the most important moment of her life so far?).
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! Hey this is shonen, the fact she got a moment is already enough, supposedly. And Momo made howitzers, how original. That's a top student for sure.
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Vigilantes 83
! Enji has been in the roasting nomu business for long time.
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! Hori… If you are gonna make Mina fail, then don´t give her a color page and a cliffhanger last chapter, don´t give us hope and then destroy it. If you wanted to make Kirishima shine again too, then make them work together to achieve the goal instead of having him steal her thunder. I like MHA more than BC, but that series really treats its female character better, at least when it comes to give them screentime during fights.
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! Hori… If you are gonna make Mina fail, then don´t give her a color page and a cliffhanger last chapter, don´t give us hope and then destroy it. If you wanted to make Kirishima shine again too, then make them work together to achieve the goal instead of having him steal her thunder. I like MHA more than BC, but that series really treats its female character better, at least when it comes to give them screentime during fights.
! On the other hand, the ending scene with Shiggy is interesting, looking foward to everybody reactions to his speech, specially Endeavor and Gran Torino! Tabata has the decency of letting the female characters actually fight, get injured, win fights, lose fights, and no always be saved by a male character. Hori on the other hand is only giving us t h i c c designs.
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! To be fair, the female characters have been pretty great for a while. From Mirko to Mr. Lady and Momo, they are definitely making their stand in this arc, this is definitely looking miles ahead of what we got in the Overhaul arc. So I'm willing to give Horikoshi a pass on this for now, he is trying.
! But this was just sad. The worst part is that we got nothing from it, Mina failing didn't led to anything - be from the heroes side, from the villains side or for the plot in general -, nothing was achieved from that, she was just taken aside so Kirishima could instantly take her place and shine in her stead.
! And the worst part is that this seems to be an ongoing thing. Before the mafia fight, Kirishima got this super cool moment. Then we go to the fight and instead of giving Uraraka or Tsuyu finally a chance to shine, Horikoshi decides to focus on Kirishima again just to give him a moment that seems like a complete rehash of the other one he got like 10 chapters before. And now, again, and in a much more glaring manner, a fellow 1-A (female, yes) student is pushed aside so Kirishima can take the chance to shine even if it doesn't anything to him as a character. -
It all will make sense
! when BACK U GO arc arrives. Mark this shitpost. The two shadowy OFA users are Bakugo and Kirishima.
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One Piece/ My Hero spoilers
Rules are rules, no OP spoilers leave the OP spoiler thread until the chapter is out. Even under tag and in an unrelated thread. Especially in an unrelated thread.
We let it slide for whatever manga is in a chapter discussion because we don't have multiple threads for other series, but the OP rule is a rule.
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That Vigilante chapter was great!
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! It's pretty obvious that Hori was stoked about finally delivering the reversal of that one scene from ages ago, to bring the two of them full circle…
and yeah, this was effective for some people (I kiiiinda liked it, and some shippers on Twitter are absolutely squeeing for it), but...
! I think the problem is (like you guys pointed out) that her faltering... doesn't really make sense, since she was brave enough to lie to him in the past.
Since then she faced a life threatening encounter with the league, competed in the festival, interned for pros, got her license, etc.
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Rules are rules, no OP spoilers leave the OP spoiler thread until the chapter is out. Even under tag and in an unrelated thread. Especially in an unrelated thread.
Sorry, dunno why I thought that was okay.
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! Man, that could have been a really huge, potentially defining moment for her character development but NOPE.
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Vigilantes 83 was awesome!
Slide & Glide is glorious. It's amazing. It's spectacular. Hands down it's my favorite quirk. It's been a long time coming but Koichi flew. What a great panel.
It's nice we saw Endeavor using attacks never shown in the main series. I can see why. They're very destructive. No. 6 getting caught in Endy's attack was more icing on the cake. No way he's dead due to having regeneration but his plan is doomed to fail now. Endeavor won't give him a chance to take Koichi down.
Not sure how Koichi and Pop will survive the fall. Either Koichi will fly again or I could see Captain Celebrity saving them. I can see Mokoto asking him to return to Japan to help save Pop.
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! I'm also annoyed at Mina faltering. Not succeeding because of Machia's or a villain's interference? I could live with that. But having her nerve falter feels very contrary to her character and the exact opposite of what she did a year ago.
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! This was disappointing.
! I'm all for characters failing, but having Mina, a character who got nothing so far, failing exclusively so Kirishima succeed in her place, was really frustrating.
Particularly when the reason given for it feels so stupidly forced (this random guy gave her a scare one afternoon, an event apparently so traumatizing she can recognize his voice instantly years later, and just hearing it is enough to destabilized her to the point she freezes in the most important moment of her life so far?).
! >! But at least Kirishima got his thousandth cool moment or so, right?!
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! Its not surprising at this point that some of you speedread after the reception of the OfA revelation BUT this is just sad. It kinda proves my point that this fanbase doesn't actually care what Hori's intentions are for a given scene they just want the bare minimal. There's oof and then there's arbitrarily being oblivious because the author didn't go the simple route.@.access:
! To be fair, the female characters have been pretty great for a while. From Mirko to Mr. Lady and Momo, they are definitely making their stand in this arc, this is definitely looking miles ahead of what we got in the Overhaul arc. So I'm willing to give Horikoshi a pass on this for now, he is trying.
! But this was just sad. The worst part is that we got nothing from it, Mina failing didn't led to anything - be from the heroes side, from the villains side or for the plot in general -, nothing was achieved from that, she was just taken aside so Kirishima could instantly take her place and shine in her stead.
! And the worst part is that this seems to be an ongoing thing. Before the mafia fight, Kirishima got this super cool moment. Then we go to the fight and instead of giving Uraraka or Tsuyu finally a chance to shine, Horikoshi decides to focus on Kirishima again just to give him a moment that seems like a complete rehash of the other one he got like 10 chapters before. And now, again, and in a much more glaring manner, a fellow 1-A (female, yes) student is pushed aside so Kirishima can take the chance to shine even if it doesn't anything to him as a character.! I mean let's forget the fact that we saw the girls fought before and during the raid but I digress.
! The exchange in this chapter was to show how they grew from that initial encounter, Mina already stood up Giga previously while this was Kirishima's first time and the parallel was less of a sign of whiteknighting and more so him returning the favor to her for all those years. Making the argument that about how Hori didn't want Mina a time to shine is missing the point.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
! @DestinyDogma:
! > >! Hori… If you are gonna make Mina fail, then don´t give her a color page and a cliffhanger last chapter, don´t give us hope and then destroy it. If you wanted to make Kirishima shine again too, then make them work together to achieve the goal instead of having him steal her thunder. I like MHA more than BC, but that series really treats its female character better, at least when it comes to give them screentime during fights.! On the other hand, the ending scene with Shiggy is interesting, looking foward to everybody reactions to his speech, specially Endeavor and Gran Torino
! >! And a guarantee that you can't name a single relevant thing that a female character did in BC it'll end up being a bunch of empty platitudes that ironically enough not count for MHA because that would destroy that narrative. Always feels like this fanbase is focused on the wrong things hence why they're always unhappy. Maybe he should take cues from Mashima or Tabata and just has his females always be active regardless if it actually makes sense because who cares about full circle development we have girls doing stuff that's more important then his obsession over parallelism and good writing, that's not what people read shounen manga for! Just to see girls do stuff.
! @pariston_hill:
! > >! Tabata has the decency of letting the female characters actually fight, get injured, win fights, lose fights, and no always be saved by a male character. Hori on the other hand is only giving us t h i c c designs.
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! And this is just for fun because you've constantly shown your inability to read
! But you know something is wrong in which an arc that has a female character carry out an assault on the villain's lair thus preventing more casualties, another female slowing down the trajectory of a behemoth with all her might and another saving practically everyone from being disintegrated people still he's bad at using them. I mean even now people are just ignoring the fact that Kirishima's initially failed to throw his bottle because Toga destroyed it and without Mina's it would have truly been a wasted effort, got saved by Tokage from being crushed to death or that Momo's plan actually succeeded all because she made cannons again. -
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! https://imgur.com/HIIfmjE
! Its not surprising at this point that some of you speedread after the reception of the OfA revelation BUT this is just sad. It kinda proves my point that this fanbase doesn't actually care what Hori's intentions are for a given scene they just want the bare minimal. There's oof and then there's arbitrarily being oblivious because the author didn't go the simple route.! I have absolutely no idea why you thought showing a scene everyone was obviously aware of (both posts you quoted mentioned this scene) would change anything or prove a point.
! We all remember the time when Machia and Mina crossed paths, this is something the fandom keeps bringing up, is not some finding that shows you are paying attention. The thing we mentioned is that (me) it was just a random scare, not something actually traumatizing and (Jabberwok) back then she actually stood her ground through the whole thing, she only fell on her knees after the situation was resolved - maybe check the whole scene instead of just posting the few panels that would help your point if we didn't knew better.@can't:
! The exchange in this chapter was to show how they grew from that initial encounter, Mina already stood up Giga previously while this was Kirishima's first time and the parallel was less of a sign of whiteknighting and more so him returning the favor to her for all those years. Making the argument that about how Hori didn't want Mina a time to shine is missing the point.
! You mean, to show how much Kirishima grew. There is no growth from Mina point if before she jumped in front of Machia and stood her ground to protect others and now she freezes at the sound of his voice.
And even from Kirishima's side this shows nothing new, the reason why we already knew this even took place in their past is exactly because we had this flashback shown before, back when Kirishima already proved he outgrew the boy he was back then (and that's the reason why I mentioned there was nothing added to the characters from this. Even if we think it's ok to push Mina aside to develop Kirishima, there was no development here).
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! And this is just for fun because you've constantly shown your inability to read
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! But you know something is wrong in which an arc that has a female character carry out an assault on the villain's lair thus preventing more casualties, another female slowing down the trajectory of a behemoth with all her might and another saving practically everyone from being disintegrated people still he's bad at using them. I mean even now people are just ignoring the fact that Kirishima's initially failed to throw his bottle because Toga destroyed it and without Mina's it would have truly been a wasted effort, got saved by Tokage from being crushed to death or that Momo's plan actually succeeded all because she made cannons again.! Oh female pro heroes being competent what a concept, if only the series was called My Hero Professionals and not My Hero Academia. The thing is, besides the academic moments you showed, had were the moments the girls tested their mettle on the field. In contrast, Deku, Bakugo, Todoroki, Iida, Kaminari, Tokoyami, Mirio and Amajiki. There's the moment Ochako pinned down Toga during the camp thing, but the fight didn't progress as Toga retreated as soon as cavalry arrived. There's still much in-balance as where and when the characters are used, if I was more cynic I would say Hori has already planned the epilogue pairings and that's the most the girls will accomplish (besides being pro heroes, etc).
! Last chapter set up for Mina action, we this one even given a colour page, but the result was Mina action? Kinda of no she failed because Hori thought establishing a parallel, or how Goerge Lucas would say "Pottery", that in nothing further develop the characters were more important. Hell had Toga thew the knife at Mina's vial, had Kirishima saved Mina from being smashed and climbed Giga and threw his own vial. But no, the chance was stolen to give to give Kirishma another shallow showcase of how he develop from his time in middle school, wait hadn't we done that already? And please, Momo creating fire resistant clothes for the students will probably be more effective than her howitzers (don't think the pack more punch than the 68ft woman) or her anesthetic will.
! And son, if you don't wanna discuss the good and bad things that happen in a fictional story, having than being scrutinized to ridiculous levels, what the hell ya doing in an online forum? -
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! I have absolutely no idea why you thought showing a scene everyone was obviously aware of (both posts you quoted mentioned this scene) would change anything or prove a point.
! Because you clearly weren't aware of it hence why the intention of the sequence flew past your head.
@.access:
! We all remember the time when Machia and Mina crossed paths, this is something the fandom keeps bringing up, is not some finding that shows you are paying attention. The thing we mentioned is that (me) it was just a random scare, not something actually traumatizing and (Jabberwok) back then she actually stood her ground through the whole thing, she only fell on her knees after the situation was resolved - maybe check the whole scene instead of just posting the few panels that would help your point if we didn't knew better.
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She was clearly scared through the whole ordeal. How the hell did you miss that. But so I can laugh at your inability to read some more how and where was it even implied that the ordeal was some "random scare". The whole point was that she was afraid but still took charge of the situation when needed in contrast to Kirishima who was scared and did absolutely nothing.@.access:
! You mean, to show how much Kirishima grew. There is no growth from Mina point if before she jumped in front of Machia and stood her ground to protect others and now she freezes at the sound of his voice.
! No its to show how both of them grew from that ordeal, Mina already stood her ground against Giga and now it was Kirishima's turn to do so.
@.access:
! And even from Kirishima's side this shows nothing new, the reason why we already knew this even took place in their past is exactly because we had this flashback shown before, back when Kirishima already proved he outgrew the boy he was back then (and that's the reason why I mentioned there was nothing added to the characters from this. Even if we think it's ok to push Mina aside to develop Kirishima, there was no development here).
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Wow good job proving you don't actually read the manga. He was clearly not over it Him confronting Giga against all odds showed how much he had grown since middle schools thanks to his experience during the Hideout Raid which allowed him to confront his trauma head on.@.access:
! The fact Horikoshi wanted to showcase Kirishima at Mina's expense was not missed. That's what we are complaining about
! The fact that you seriously believe that it was at the expense of Mina when ya know it was her vile that ultimately wind up inside of Giga just goes to show how it went over your head.
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! The fact that you seriously believe that it was at the expense of Mina when ya know it was her vile that ultimately wind up inside of Giga just goes to show how it went over your head.
! And so what if it's was Mina's vial that ended up Machia, it was Kirishima that managed that not Mina. And I don't think that's the case. And FYI vial is different from vile.
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! Oh female pro heroes being competent what a concept, if only the series was called My Hero Professionals and not My Hero Academia.
! So you changed your argument from female characters not doing anything to female students not doing anything. Inspiring.
! The thing is, besides the academic moments you showed, had were the moments the girls tested their mettle on the field.
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Nope can't think of a single scene.! Last chapter set up for Mina action, we this one even given a colour page, but the result was Mina action? Kinda of no she failed because Hori thought establishing a parallel, or how Goerge Lucas would say "Pottery", that in nothing further develop the characters were more important.
! Horikoshi: You see this menace had a huge impact on these two characters and further illustrate how much both of them have tried to grow past that incident I did a reversal showing Kirishima stepping up to throw the vital Mina had into Giga as a gesture from when they were in middle to make the whole thing come tull circle. You see its like poetry it rhymes.
! You: WHAT? HE STOLE MINA'S THUNDER! WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE MINA THROW THE BOTTLE IN? YEAH IT WOULDN'T HAVE MEANT ANYTHING BUT AT LEAST SHE'S DOING STUFF? I ONLY READ THIS BOY'S COMIC BOOK TO SEE GIRLS DOING STUFF!! Hell had Toga thew the knife at Mina's vial, had Kirishima saved Mina from being smashed and climbed Giga and threw his own vial. But no, the chance was stolen to give to give Kirishma another shallow showcase of how he develop from his time in middle school, wait hadn't we done that already? And please, Momo creating fire resistant clothes for the students will probably be more effective than her howitzers (don't think the pack more punch than the 68ft woman) or her anesthetic will.
! The fact that you literally thought that vile that Toga destroyed was Mina's kind of served to prove my point that you didn't actually pay attention. You clearly missed everything going full circle with Kirishima returning the favor to her but nah man Hori just hates womenhe should just take cues from Tabata and Mashima and just have his female cast be active participants in every battle even when it doesn't make any sense because the people who read this don't care about characterization or writing they just want to gloat over which series has the best female cast. Always funny that this is the only fanbase in which this is a problem whereas series like Jojo, One Piece, HxH, and KnY get immediately shut down when people bring up an argument in regards to female characters.
! And son, if you don't wanna discuss the good and bad things that happen in a fictional story, having than being scrutinized to ridiculous levels, what the hell ya doing in an online forum?
! If the discussion wasn't done in bad faith and had merit other than people wining over a girl not giving the spotlight like they wanted for the umpteenth time then maybe you would have a point.
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! And so what if it's was Mina's vial that ended up Machia, it was Kirishima that managed that not Mina. And I don't think that's the case. And FYI vial is different from vile.
! Then Kirishima would be up shit's creek without a paddle because his was destroyed. Mind telling me how he was going to put Giga to sleep with a broken vial? Go ahead on all ears.
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@can't:
! The fact that you literally thought that vile that Toga destroyed was Mina's kind of served to prove my point that you didn't actually pay attention. You clearly missed everything going full circle with Kirishima returning the favor to her but nah man Hori just hates womenhe should just take cues from Tabata and Mashima and just have his female cast be active participants in every battle even when it doesn't make any sense because the people who read this don't care about characterization or writing they just want to gloat over which series has the best female cast. Always funny that this is the only fanbase in which this is a problem whereas series like Jojo, One Piece, HxH, and KnY get immediately shut down when people bring up an argument in regards to female characters.
! Are you for real? Jojo had and entire part where the main cast was female, in One Piece is constantly brought up that Nami hadn't a 1vs1 since Enies Lobby and Robin didn't have one since Skypiea, KnY had the whole debacle on why Nezuko din't partook in the final fight against Muzan, and how Love Pillar, Insect Pillar and her disciple were sidelined in the last arc. And in HxH, albeit there's no single female character among the main character, Machi, Pakunoda, Komugi, Bisky and Alluka all had her moments in the spotlight among the mains or had shards of development in the story.
! My complain is not solely on the girls, is that Hori created 40+1 hero students but decided to focus on less than 15. If that was the case, why not smaller classes? If he really wanted to showcase all why not more intermingle with the classes during the internships? Why the hell did he decided that was good to jump from December directly to March just to speed the AFO Shigaraki revel? If you think side character serve only to be side go read Gash Bell and reevaluate how a author should use his cast.And tone down the condescending "you guys don't know shit about the craftsmanship of manga" before you get a mod warning or worse.
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! So, I'm a woman and I really enjoy the designs and characters of the female characters but I also definitely would like to see them more involved with the plot and winning battles on their own. I think it's good not just for girls but also non-girls to see female (and non-female or non-male) characters in positions of importance. If a boy can look up to a female character like he can a male character then he'll be a better person as he grows up.
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! Are you for real? Jojo had and entire part where the main cast was female,
! So what about Parts 1-5 and Parts 7 and 8? What's the prominent female pressence in those arcs? So why is Part 6 not brought up so often when it comes to best parts of the franchise or a shounen with a good female cast?
! in One Piece is constantly brought up that Nami hadn't a 1vs1 since Enies Lobby and Robin didn't have one since Skypiea, KnY had the whole debacle on why Nezuko din't partook in the final fight against Muzan, and how Love Pillar, Insect Pillar and her disciple were sidelined in the last arc.
! Which largely gets ignored. Not to mention that both still get praised for their handling of female characters anyways which comes to their massive popularity.
! And in HxH, albeit there's no single female character among the main character, Machi, Pakunoda, Komugi, Bisky and Alluka all had her moments in the spotlight among the mains or had shards of development in the story.
! Man you are just grasping for straws with these examples yet somehow you couldn't find a single shred of evidence showing the MHA female cast their mettle in battle.
! My complain is not solely on the girls, is that Hori created 40+1 hero students but decided to focus on less than 15.
! Not every character is going to get the same level of focus, its asinine to believe that every character is going to get an extensive backstory or else they story would drag on for way too long and the also the fact that readers might not actually be interested in them (see Wano characters)
! If that was the case, why not smaller classes? If he really wanted to showcase all why not more intermingle with the classes during the internships? Why the hell did he decided that was good to jump from December directly to March just to speed the AFO Shigaraki revel?
! So what you're saying is that you wanted to drag out the story even more.
! If you think side character serve only to be side go read Gash Bell and reevaluate how a author should use his cast.
! You mean just having them have one moment of glory then being ceremoniously "killed" off and repeat?
! And tone down the condescending "you guys don't know shit about the craftsmanship of manga" before you get a mod warning or worse.
! Craftsmanship? I'm just pointing out how narrow-minded you guys are that you couldn't see and obvious parallelism because you were caught up and wanted to see girls do stuff.
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@can't:
! Which largely gets ignored. Not to mention that both still get praised for their handling of female characters anyways which comes to their massive popularity.
So basically the same thing happening here.
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So basically the same thing happening here.
This series gets crucified for everything it does even for the shit it didn't do more so than any other popular series on here.
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@can't:
! So what about Parts 1-5 and Parts 7 and 8? What's the prominent female pressence in those arcs? So why is Part 6 not brought up so often when it comes to best parts of the franchise or a shounen with a good female cast?
! Part 6 is 158 chapters with a female leading cast. That's ~56% of MHA length. It's one of the best parts of the franchise but weebs are salty about the ending and don't like female lead shonens and japonese fans are still in awe with Giorno. Part 8 has Yasuho as the Jobro, part 7 had Lucy Steel literally kill the secondary villain when was about to win, Part 5 had Trish and Notoriuous fight, Part 4 had Remi and Aya as pivotal plot points, Part 3 had yeah it had nothing, Part 2 had Lisa Lisa as the mentor figure and Part 1 had Erina as part of Jonathan-Dio relationship.
! Which largely gets ignored. Not to mention that both still get praised for their handling of female characters anyways which comes to their massive popularity.
! You sure don't go to the One Piece section huh.
! Man you are just grasping for straws with these examples yet somehow you couldn't find a single shred of evidence showing the MHA female cast their mettle in battle.
! Komugi had no effect whatsoever on Meruem. getaloadofthisguy.jpeg
! Not every character is going to get the same level of focus, its asinine to believe that every character is going to get an extensive backstory or else they story would drag on for way too long and the also the fact that readers might not actually be interested in them (see Wano characters)
! Yes, not every character need a complete or a complex backstory, but you don't put your MC in a group of 20 classmates and expect that the audience will only want character progression of half or less of them, that's the same mistake of Naruto.
! So what you're saying is that you wanted to drag out the story even more.
! Drag?! The story has 280 chapters and we haven't finished year O N E of high school, it's not like we're o chapter 680 and suddenly we had school prom on the eve of a massive villain attack. The previous cancellations left Hori so traumatized that he is always pedal to the metal in fear the audience will lose interest. In a 20+ volume series, constantly on top of the charts, with a new season of anime on the works.
! You mean just having them have one moment of glory then being ceremoniously "killed" off and repeat?
! Yet, the conveyed more feeling and interest than more than half of UA alumni and most of pro heroes.
! Craftsmanship? I'm just pointing out how narrow-minded you guys are that you couldn't see and obvious parallelism because you were caught up and wanted to see girls do stuff.
! The parallelism was obvious, it was also needless.
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@can't:
This series gets crucified for everything it does even for the shit it didn't do more so than any other popular series on here.
It don't get the half of idolmaster and two chapters a year that Miura get, a third of the shitting Mashima, Kishomoto and Kubo got or a penny of Hiatus jokes that Togashi have.
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This series gets crucified for everything it does even for the shit it didn't do more so than any other popular series on here.
Actually it doesnt. Every popular series have a bunch of people that critic aspects of them which is followed by other fans thinking its unfair because other popular series dont criticized. The truth is they all get criticized but unless you spent a lot of time in their fandom you dont see the criticism. Which is normal since popularity mean it resonated with a lot of people that latched on to the aspects they liked about the series.
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the worst thing about the female characters in MHA (and most WSJ series tbh) is that none of them have an interesting storyline, remove them from the strory and almost nothing changes.
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the worst thing about the female characters in MHA (and most WSJ series tbh) is that none of them have an interesting storyline, remove them from the strory and almost nothing changes.
Technically yes, but at the same time I find myself really enjoying the arcs that the women in Black Clover face. That could just be because of Yoshihara's work as series director but Noelle for example feels like the real protagonist of the series. Asta and Yuno are god fucking awful and boring.
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! Part 6 is 158 chapters with a female leading cast. That's ~56% of MHA length. It's one of the best parts of the franchise but weebs are salty about the ending and don't like female lead shonens and japonese fans are still in awe with Giorno.
! Or because it just wasn't very good and for as awe-inspiring the prospect of a female lead in a shounen manga may be for some Jolyne takes forever to come into her own because as it turns out Araki isn't good at writing female characters…shocker!
! Part 8 has Yasuho as the Jobro, part 7 had Lucy Steel literally kill the secondary villain when was about to win, Part 5 had Trish and Notoriuous fight, Part 4 had Remi and Aya as pivotal plot points, Part 3 had yeah it had nothing, Part 2 had Lisa Lisa as the mentor figure and Part 1 had Erina as part of Jonathan-Dio relationship.
! A damsel in distress, a plot device, another damsel in distress, two characters who don't do anything of worth one of which dies unceremoniously, a character who also accomplishes nothing, an a love interest…and you have the gall to criticize the female characters in MHA.
! You sure don't go to the One Piece section huh.
! I do and Nami and Robin not getting solo fights is among the least brought up complaints over this arc or the timeskip in general given the mountain of other complaints that gets spewed out.
! Komugi had no effect whatsoever on Meruem. getaloadofthisguy.jpeg
! And you have a problem when Mina does the same for Kirishima.
! Yes, not every character need a complete or a complex backstory, but you don't put your MC in a group of 20 classmates and expect that the audience will only want character progression of half or less of them, that's the same mistake of Naruto.
! Naruto literally ignored all of his teammates to focus solely on the Team 7. There's already been several arcs in the series focused on developing the extended cast and giving them something to do something which Naruto never did, that comparison is so unfounded its laughable that you thought you were being clever.
! Drag?! The story has 280 chapters and we haven't finished year O N E of high school, it's not like we're o chapter 680 and suddenly we had school prom on the eve of a massive villain attack. The previous cancellations left Hori so traumatized that he is always pedal to the metal in fear the audience will lose interest. In a 20+ volume series, constantly on top of the charts, with a new season of anime on the works.
! There's literally manga that only cover the first year of highschool, Haikyuu literally only covered the first year of the main protagonists for 7 years and their second and third years were covered in a montage spread in the last arc. Why is this only a criticism in regards to MHA?
! Yet, the conveyed more feeling and interest than more than half of UA alumni and most of pro heroes.
! Totally not a biased comment at all
! The parallelism was obvious, it was also needless.
! Nah. It made everything come full circle. You just wanted to see a girl do stuff in an arc filled with girls doing stuff.
! It don't get the half of idolmaster and two chapters a year that Miura get, a third of the shitting Mashima, Kishomoto and Kubo got or a penny of Hiatus jokes that Togashi have.
Don't try to push your narrative as the truth, Trump."Hey guys I really hated that OFA reveal, I'm just going to keep bringing this up"
"I don't get something so its bad"
"Any subject involving the treatment of female characters"
"powerscaling"
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Actually it doesnt. Every popular series have a bunch of people that critic aspects of them which is followed by other fans thinking its unfair because other popular series dont criticized. The truth is they all get criticized but unless you spent a lot of time in their fandom you dont see the criticism. Which is normal since popularity mean it resonated with a lot of people that latched on to the aspects they liked about the series.
Nope actually it does, there's never a positive comment in these threads anymore and there's more pessimism over whatever Horikoshi does rather than excitement. There's such a thing as bad faith criticism where most of it just stems from a general dislike of the source of material and not in a way to improve it. Despite major misgivings about the quality of the timeskip the general atmosphere of the OP section is still mostly postive not so much here.
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"Hey guys I really hated that OFA reveal, I'm just going to keep bringing this up"
"I don't get something so its bad"
"Any subject involving the treatment of female characters"
"powerscaling"
And I can go on
Oh ad hominem,how clever.
You're gonna need a bigger bait if you ever wish for me to reply to you.
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^That's the most obvious concession I've ever seen.
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^That's the most obvious concession I've ever seen.
As a somewhat impartial observer here, I have to say. You have a few good points but come off quite poorly in this interaction.
Let's try to keep things civil and respectful?
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the worst thing about the female characters in MHA (and most WSJ series tbh) is that none of them have an interesting storyline, remove them from the strory and almost nothing changes.
Yea this always bummed me out. The only one Horikoshi sorta does right by consistently is Toga.
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I still remember Bakugo vs Uraraka, and wonder what happened there? Was it a fluke?
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1007312
! Shigi's word must have hurt like a motherfucker to Gran Torino and Endy.
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As they should. We can discuss forever what can happen, but I have the feeling that with Shiggy going in this directon, and Dabi on route, the truth about Endeavor, and Hawks will both be revealed. With hero 1, 2 exposed, and 3 either dead or an accomplice Shiggy can retreat.
Honestly, If you wanted to give the slam dunk to Kirishima, should have given Ashido a better reason to falter, like "oh I either administer the poison or I save THESE non-mineta people!"
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I know AFO is the one that likes to give speeches to mess with his enemies, but I really hope Shiggy´s speech continues in the next chapter. Deku having more info on his background would be interesting, so far neither the main character and the main villain know a thing about each other.
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I've seen this topic getting bumped for a while because of the spoilers, only seeing that it had something to do with Mina. Now reading it, you should be happy! After years of being a side character with a unique look, she finally has a character moment that she can use to grow. In this series, a failure today can lead to development tomorrow. Not every great character moment is going to be a win. It's just a shame that she, like much of class 1A, hasn't had real exposure to villains until now.
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I've seen this topic getting bumped for a while because of the spoilers, only seeing that it had something to do with Mina. Now reading it, you should be happy! After years of being a side character with a unique look, she finally has a character moment that she can use to grow. In this series, a failure today can lead to development tomorrow. Not every great character moment is going to be a win. It's just a shame that she, like much of class 1A, hasn't had real exposure to villains until now.
completely agree. feared for the worst after reading the spoilers here, but personally, I liked how this was handled.