Smoker is Sanji of marines.
Is it the smoking, Oda?
No wait, he smokes too, doesn't he. Can't be that…
Would be cool if Smoker was the Sword leader, though. Probably just wishful thinking. Possibly a ranked member.
Smoker is Sanji of marines.
Is it the smoking, Oda?
No wait, he smokes too, doesn't he. Can't be that…
Would be cool if Smoker was the Sword leader, though. Probably just wishful thinking. Possibly a ranked member.
@uniaka:
Oda keeps pushing coby but what I want is more smoker. Based on alabasta/punk hazard, he should be after one of the warlords and capture him, not cobaby.
Smoker is a has been. Coby is the future.
Smoker is a has been. Coby is the future.
Smoker could maybe make it as admiral before or when luffy becomes PK, and the one luffy sees as rival and cornered luffy many times like garp did with roger. Coby is more like the future after the main story ends. Maybe in Boruto we will see admiral coby.
@The:
What about the theory that Im had the immortality operation that doffy mentioned? Doe you guys think it's a possibility?
I think it is a very high probability that is the case, given the context of that entire speech about the ope-ope fruit's powers is regarding the National treasure of Mariejois and how using the fruit he could have taken control of the world, along with mentioning the personality
transplant.
Its all clear that this national treasure is a person, by using the personality transplant, he would have switched bodies , and become the ruler of the world. etc
There are way too many pages to read between this and the spoiler thread, so just gonna throw in general thoughts and stuff I assume has been said by all.
Morgans not being a pushover and Wapol being the information leaker are both so great, loved it.
Vivi is just in hiding with the other Revs now. Could be fun if this leads to her getting closer to the main action and reuniting with the strawhats.
Not totally sure what Drake's part in the rest of the arc is gonna be once the action fully kicks off. Is he gonna be like Koala and just sneak in the background and uncover some stuff or is he gonna be like Burgess and hide until he sees weakened threats and capture them? For that matter, is Hawkins just captured now for the rest of the arc or is he gonna be put to use? Always hopeful for more Hawkins.
The government are really stretching themselves here, thinking they can take in all 4 warlords at once… Don't know why they aren't just focusing entirely on Weevil and Hancock. They should know by now Buggy's an idiot and could lie through their teeth to him with a messenger bat. And nobody should think poking the Mihawk can be a good idea right now.
I love fake news morgan
@uniaka:
Smoker could maybe make it as admiral before or when luffy becomes PK, and the one luffy sees as rival and cornered luffy many times like garp did with roger. Coby is more like the future after the main story ends. Maybe in Boruto we will see admiral coby.
Seriously tho i think Smoker has peaked at VA. Same as Garp in that he doesn't need or desire the shackles that come with being an admiral.
The government are really stretching themselves here, thinking they can take in all 4 warlords at once… Don't know why they aren't just focusing entirely on Weevil and Hancock. They should know by now Buggy's an idiot and could lie through their teeth to him with a messenger bat. And nobody should think poking the Mihawk can be a good idea right now.
Unless their new weapon is as powerful as it seems.
Seriously tho i think Smoker has peaked at VA. Same as Garp in that he doesn't need or desire the shackles that come with being an admiral.
I think that is more about present WG with the celestial dragons, IM. But with them out of the way, I could see even garp becoming new commander in chief after kong, epilogue, next to aokoji(new fleet admiral) and smoker(admiral).
@uniaka:
I think that is more about present WG with the celestial dragons, IM. But with them out of the way, I could see even garp becoming new commander in chief after kong, epilogue, next to aokoji(new fleet admiral) and smoker(admiral).
I think it hinges more on his tell authorities to eat shit personality than anything else. A lone wolf is a lone wolf even if the bosses are nicer
I think it hinges more on his tell authorities to eat shit personality than anything else. A lone wolf is a lone wolf even if the bosses are nicer
Admiral garp would have to go after anyone that dared punch CD. And he did call them trash or something when sterry said he wants to become CD.
But with good royals like neptune he enjoys drinking tea and talking with him, something you would not see him do with charlos or any CD. So for sure it would count if instead of Im's CDs, guys like neptune, riku, vivi would replace the present CDs, and you would also not have guys like akainu among marines.
@uniaka:
Admiral garp would have to go after anyone that dared puch CD. And he did call them trash or something when sterry said he wants to become CD.
But with good royals like neptune he enjoys drinking tea and talking with him, something you would not see him do with charlos or any CD. So for sure it would count if instead of Im's CDs, guys like neptune, riku, vivi would replace the CDs.
All true. But do you think Garp and Smoker are the kind of men who want to lose the freedom to go and do what they want and be tied down to the responsibilities. I for sure don't see either of them wanting a higher grade no matter who they respond to just based on who they are as people
All true. But do you think Garp and Smoker are the kind of men who want to lose the freedom to go and do what they want and be tied down to the responsibilities. I for sure don't see either of them wanting a higher grade no matter who they respond to just based on who they are as people
Maybe the good royals would give marines more freedom, and not just use them as tools like cds. Even as vice admiral I think he had freedom only because of his marine hero status or sengoku as his buddy, rather then vice admiral rank giving more freedom, and compared with other vice admirals we saw.
But if Im only rules over the world, it means Enel is out of his reign, but after all, what's a King to a God right?
Kuzan can't be Fleet admiral, he's out the Navy.
Fujitora would be the nicest one to have, but going by experience, only Borsalino would jump into said position.
With the Red-Dog, Yellow-Monkey, Blue-Phaesant, Purple-Tiger and Green Bull, I could picture Smoker as admiral White-Bear and Koby as Pink-TrashPanda.
@uniaka:
Maybe the good royals would give marines more freedom, and not just use them as tools like cds. Even as vice admiral I think he had freedom only because of his marine hero status or sengoku as his buddy, rather then vice admiral rank giving more freedom, and compared with other vice admirals we saw.
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His word is all we have to go on here, admiral means less freedom. Garp prefers freedom. And Smoker is pretty much the modern Garp who follows his own way of doing things. Unless Law does the personality swap thing again i don't see Smoker coming around to being locked into admirality.
But if Im only rules over the world, it means Enel is out of his reign, but after all, what's a King to a God right?
Kuzan can't be Fleet admiral, he's out the Navy.
Fujitora would be the nicest one to have, but going by experience, only Borsalino would jump into said position.
With the Red-Dog, Yellow-Monkey, Blue-Phaesant, Purple-Tiger and Green Bull, I could picture Smoker as admiral White-Bear and Koby as Pink-TrashPanda.
Kuzan could very likely be part of SWORD. He said there are other ways, and while everyone assumed it's the revolutinaries, looks like he was maybe talking about something still part of marines, like SWORD.
There was always possibility of Kuzan being in deep cover.
Akainu never struck me as a sympathetic person.
I have something on my mind.
Zephyr was created by Oda right?
It was said that his arm was cut off by a pirate with Devil Fruit powers, and that this pirate became a Shichibukai, so this pirate is supposed to be Weevil, right?
Are there any information regarding this, SBS, interview or something?
Maybe Blackbeard is after Weevil's power.
I have something on my mind.
Zephyr was created by Oda right?
It was said that his arm was cut off by a pirate with Devil Fruit powers, and that this pirate became a Shichibukai, so this pirate is supposed to be Weevil, right?
Are there any information regarding this, SBS, interview or something?Maybe Blackbeard is after Weevil's power.
Barring the possibility of some movie exclusive Warlord, yes, it is Weevil.
Really doubt there's a long line of Imus. It almost looked like there was an emotional attachment to the frozen straw hat. As if Imu wants to reaffirm the decisions s/he has to make or something like that. Like it's both personal and overarching.
I agree that Imu was almost definitely in the process of making/reaffirming a decision when s/he paid a visit to the Mary Geoise Strawhat, but beyond that, we can't say anything. The character was in shadows the entire time, and nothing about the scene implied any sort of emotional state or gave any insight into what Imu was thinking.
And you don't need a personal connection to something historical to have an emotional connection to it. I paid a visit to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC a few years back… I don't know enough of my family tree to know if I had ancestors in the US back around the Civil War, but I've had a decent education and like to think I have an above average grasp on American history, and I can assure you that there was a definite emotional connection.
A royal figure, raised essentially EXCLUSIVELY amidst the trappings of history, educated in the actions taken by their ancestors and the justifications for those actions, and saddled with the burden of ensuring that the organization their ancestors built - that, from their perspective, has been the only thing keeping the world from falling into chaos - doesn't break down and crumble to ash on his/her watch? I can see such a person looking to historical artifacts when mulling over a difficult decision.
Then there's that Tequila Wolf bridge project, being built for 700 years straight. It's a sign of constant stability which is another sign there wasn't many changes in power structure.
Tequila Wolf being a project a full 700 years in the making doesn't mean that it could only have come about under the supervision of a singular figure. Even if we assume Imu is immortal (which, again, we do not have evidence to support), the builders certainly are not, and it's not as though Imu's on site personally directing its construction. One way or another, it's a work that spans generations, pushed forward by an unending stream of funding and labor.
Whether Imu personally ordered it built or Imu's ancestor ordered it built and s/he's just keeping the funding going out of pride/duty/ignorance/etc. doesn't really matter.
And also, it would be a shame if there wasn't at least one character who was alive during that turning point in history, offering a personal perspective as to why the ancient kingdom had to go down.
In some ways I agree, but I also feel that such a thing would undermine Robin's character somewhat. Her entire raison d'etre is uncovering the true history of the world by piecing together the Poneglyphs…
Even if their perspective is biased, having a singular individual who can bypass that process and explain everything from personal experience feels a bit...weird. If an immortal character IS to show up, it might even be better to go the Baccano route and have it be a character who lived through the events in question, but it just as in the dark about the underlying causes as everyone else. A character that can add a bit of context, but not the full picture.
With the Red-Dog, Yellow-Monkey, Blue-Phaesant, Purple-Tiger and Green Bull, I could picture Smoker as admiral White-Bear and Koby as Pink-TrashPanda.
I think a Wolf represents Smoker better.
If you think about it, Smoker's devil fruit could be as haxxed as Dofla's. If Dofla can turn vapor into rope magic that allows him to manipulate people, make realistic clones and razor sharp strings, why can't our dude Smokes do the same with smoke. We've already seen his smoke can be dense enough to hold people in the air. He could coat that shit in Haki and do whatever the hell he wants, basically. Giant smoke hamer, falling smoke spikes, smoke cannon firing smoke cannonballs, smoke clones, smoke black spiked armor…
Regarding IM: they clearly have fear to be known by more people than the CDs. Doesn't scream powerhouse to be honest. And immortality probably doesn't mean they can't be killed.
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But if Im only rules over the world, it means Enel is out of his reign, but after all, what's a King to a God right?
If Im has some kind of fortune telling power they would know that Enel never had interest in the blue see at all.
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His word is all we have to go on here, admiral means less freedom. Garp prefers freedom. And Smoker is pretty much the modern Garp who follows his own way of doing things. Unless Law does the personality swap thing again i don't see Smoker coming around to being locked into admirality.
Garp is so cool. What are the chances that he plays a LARGE part in the rox flashback? Pretty high right? Can't wait.
Garp is so cool. What are the chances that he plays a LARGE part in the rox flashback? Pretty high right? Can't wait.
I seem to recall that he picked up his "Garp the Hero" moniker for helping to take Rox down, so I'd say fairly decent… Especially if it focuses on what happened to their captain, rather than just glimpses of Linlin and Kaidou in their youth.
I wonder if we go by oda's words about ryokugyu and fujitora turning on the world governement.
What enemies will oda come up on the WG side? Do you think Kong might be an obstacle(pretty cool).
To be honest the admirals are the coolest characters for me personally, wished we had some more sengoku buddha fighting.
@LordEnel:
I wonder if we go by oda's words about ryokugyu and fujitora turning on the world governement.
What enemies will oda come up on the WG side? Do you think Kong might be an obstacle(pretty cool).
To be honest the admirals are the coolest characters for me personally, wished we had some more sengoku buddha fighting.
I think they may (or at least Fujitora), but only after their ideals clash with either Luffy or the Revo's. I don't see Admirals being full on allies by the end, but I can see people like Fujitora running a good version of the marines post-story.
I definitely think we'll get more Garp/Sengoku action eventually. They are essentially endgame fighters, and its clear Oda didn't want to show them off too much in Marinford. Along with Ryokugyu, the Marine Science Division may hail some powerful fighters aside from Sentoumaru and Vegapunk's weapons. We'll see. We also now have Sword, which may have some additional, unknown marines.
Other than this, I do expect CP-0 to have extremely prominent, close to Admiral level characters in its forces. Kong is probably extremely powerful. Not to mention there being likely other government employees under Kong that aren't CP-0 whom are strong. Additionally, I assume the Gorosei and Im are not weak by any means either. So yeah, the WG should have any shortage of forces and I do expect to start seeing some or most of these characters post-Wano.
I'm sure there will be a clear divide between the Marines and the WG eventually, but the WG also has a decent chunk of forces themselves (Im, Gorosei, CP-0, Kong and other WG members).
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@The:
What about the theory that Im had the immortality operation that doffy mentioned? Doe you guys think it's a possibility?
I feel like this happened multiple times. The Gorosei also seem like men who have lived for hundreds of years, not just privileged men who know about the Void Century. Hell, maybe Rocks is also alive because of this.
@Gia:
I feel like this happened multiple times. The Gorosei also seem like men who have lived for hundreds of years, not just privileged men who know about the Void Century. Hell, maybe Rocks is also alive because of this.
There's also Bonney's devil fruit.
@Gia:
I think they may (or at least Fujitora), but only after their ideals clash with either Luffy or the Revo's. I don't see Admirals being full on allies by the end, but I can see people like Fujitora running a good version of the marines post-story.
I definitely think we'll get more Garp/Sengoku action eventually. They are essentially endgame fighters, and its clear Oda didn't want to show them off too much in Marinford. Along with Ryokugyu, the Marine Science Division may hail some powerful fighters aside from Sentoumaru and Vegapunk's weapons. We'll see. We also now have Sword, which may have some additional, unknown marines.
Other than this, I do expect CP-0 to have extremely prominent, close to Admiral level characters in its forces. Kong is probably extremely powerful. Not to mention there being likely other government employees under Kong that aren't CP-0 whom are strong. Additionally, I assume the Gorosei and Im are not weak by any means either. So yeah, the WG should have any shortage of forces and I do expect to start seeing some or most of these characters post-Wano.
I'm sure there will be a clear divide between the Marines and the WG eventually, but the WG also has a decent chunk of forces themselves (Im, Gorosei, CP-0, Kong and other WG members).
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I feel like this happened multiple times. The Gorosei also seem like men who have lived for hundreds of years, not just privileged men who know about the Void Century. Hell, maybe Rocks is also alive because of this.
that might throw a little curveball onto why they havent attacked the yonko yet…
I would love to see more garp/sengoku action but i have little hope for that
I see a three-way split for the World Government:
How many people bowed before the Queen? Prime Ministers included?
How many governments consult a bunch of mullahs before making crucial decisions?
Nothing is clear here. Maybe Imu literally rules the world, maybe she doesn't. But acting like this chapter confirmed anything is simply wrong.
I get that even the possibility may disappoint people, but that's all I'm seeing here: a possibility. Presented in a chapter that was filled with eyebrow-raising reveals. Similiar to the current chapter, really.
1. For 800 years the world has been lead to believe the Throne is Empty, and that no 1 person rules over everyone like a dictatorship
2. The Gorosei are the highest ranking Celestial Dragons and the highest political authority of the world government.
3. Im sits upon the throne that the world believes has been Empty for 800 years.
4. The Gorosei refer to Im as "Im-sama" clearly indicating superiority as they BOW.
Things don't have to be spelled out in big bold letters. It is all but implied as to who Im is and what power he/she has.
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Seriously tho i think Smoker has peaked at VA. Same as Garp in that he doesn't need or desire the shackles that come with being an admiral.
Unless their new weapon is as powerful as it seems.
Its not so much peaked but it seems he has peaked out strength wise.
He was heavily outmatched by Vergo, and even Law got the better of him. DoFlamingo toyed around with him. Luffy has surpassed him to such a degree, Smoker isn't gonna catch up with him.
Its a pity, cuz i like Smoker and i was hoping he'd be a serious Marine rival for Luffy. But that clearly isn't the case anymore.
I wonder if we'll ever see that fight from the 17th opening.
1. For 800 years the world has been lead to believe the Throne is Empty, and that no 1 person rules over everyone like a dictatorship
2. The Gorosei are the highest ranking Celestial Dragons and the highest political authority of the world government.
3. Im sits upon the throne that the world believes has been Empty for 800 years.
4. The Gorosei refer to Im as "Im-sama" clearly indicating superiority as they BOW.Things don't have to be spelled out in big bold letters. It is all but implied as to who Im is and what power he/she has.
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Its not so much peaked but it seems he has peaked out strength wise.
He was heavily outmatched by Vergo, and even Law got the better of him. DoFlamingo toyed around with him. Luffy has surpassed him to such a degree, Smoker isn't gonna catch up with him.
Its a pity, cuz i like Smoker and i was hoping he'd be a serious Marine rival for Luffy. But that clearly isn't the case anymore.
smoker one of the biggest disappointments in the manga, but oda couldnt integrate him in the story and make him strong in punk hazard…
Maybe Blackbeard is after Weevil's power.
He is essential for his beard collection.
If you think about it, Smoker's devil fruit could be as haxxed as Dofla's. If Dofla can turn vapor into rope magic that allows him to manipulate people, make realistic clones and razor sharp strings, why can't our dude Smokes do the same with smoke. We've already seen his smoke can be dense enough to hold people in the air. He could coat that shit in Haki and do whatever the hell he wants, basically. Giant smoke hamer, falling smoke spikes, smoke cannon firing smoke cannonballs, smoke clones, smoke black spiked armor…
String clones was and remains the height of pushing a devil fruit into bullshittery.
@LordEnel:
smoker one of the biggest disappointments in the manga, but oda couldnt integrate him in the story and make him strong in punk hazard…
Personally i thought Smoker had lots of juicy screentime in Punk Hazard.
Most time to shine he's gotten so far.
Since people are spit balling, I might as well put my theory about the Arabasta incident
World Government declared Arabasta as an enemy nation. ( or declared war, but that's extreme I think. )
They needed to silence Cobra, and I'm sure he told them about the ponygliefs so they want to send people to investigate the kingdom and how far Cobra documented his findings.
Could tie in with Pluton and is the thing BB is headed for ( He's and emperor now, he won't move with his entire crew unless its something big.)
Also Vivi is out of home so she could reunite with Luffy.
String clones was and remains the height of pushing a devil fruit into bullshittery.
Along with internal organ stitches.
YEs, because when you have ONE figure behind everything, instead of dozens, that simplifies things. It provides a single shonen punching bag to take out and makes the rest overall irrelevant.
That he's there at all points towards the story not dealing with quite all the complex stuff it had before and just… having that. When he falls all the other bad stuff falls right after.
And yes for the purpose of discussion I'm simplifying it to Marines because they've been the firepower branch of the series. The Tenryubiito have to be stopped ovbviously, but the big marines are the ones serving as their bodyguards, they're the ones that will have to actually be beaten in a shonen throwdown/uprising.
Not sure I completely follow, but if you mean by defeating IM it will solve everything then I don't agree with that. The whole structure with Tenryuubitos and Gorosie is messed up enough as is, even when IM is gone they won't change their ways.
If we are going by a real world-like political system, even after you overthrow a dictator and take out all of their supporters/political party…etc they'd still be in control over many key organizations that will effect the whole country. Now IM and co have been running the word for 800+ years, taking the head will hardly affect them that much(by real-world political standards) dunno how Oda will go about this, but I doubt just IM will be the end of the World Govt as we know it. Even if the elder stars were just following orders, they still had a lot of freedom and affected the world a lot. Just like how they casually decided on the spot to meet up with shanks or when they decided to kill Glover right away when he revealed the old kingdom's name.
At first I thought it was weird that Hancock was being arrested since it felt like she just hung out around her island these days. But everyone still had their bounties, I assume unfrozen. I guess the Marines/Navy didn't consider completely wiping their bounties assuming/if the pirates ever even behaved. So the Marines/Navy decided to hunt them down while they had the chance.
Didn't Moria get removed during the White Beard war? Dofla gave him the news that he was no longer part of the group or something. Then Moria was on the run after the war. After the timeskip the Shichibukai were: 1. Mihawk, 2. Law, 3. Buggy, 4. Hancock, 5. Kuma, 6. WB Jr., and 7. Dofla (Then Dofla and Law resigned/got revoked.)
Yes, the fact that they already put a hit on him despite him being a Shichibukai during the Marinford war was why I brought it up (since they didn't even give him the courtesy of telling him beforehand that they were revoking his status, they literally stabbed him in the back). Him still being out there and still being potentially dangerous (and now in Blackbeard's territory, who happens to be another former Shichibukai), not to mention the possibility of a collusion between him and other dangerous entities would be good reason to have him on their hit list too, given his former profile and how easy it would be to recognize him. Obviously his location won't be as well known as the others (or will it?), but if he knows about the other active Shichibukai getting the same boot to the rear as he got, that could inspire him and possibly others like Crocodile to join forces or help the others since they're likely going to be next if they don't make a stand. If the Marines are already shitting their pants over the Kaido and Big Mom alliance, a Shichibukai alliance should also be troubling enough to do something about. But that also plays into my theory that the next great conflict will be a three-way battle with a huge pirate alliance (since that's already largely in the works as we speak), the Revolutionaries and their allied nations, and the Marines and World Government.
String clones was and remains the height of pushing a devil fruit into bullshittery.
The holy trinity of bullpuckery: Sugar Sugar no Mi, String Fruit, Op Op Fruit.
Like, it's super flavorful that Crocodile, the sand Logia, picks a desert country as a base of operation. Because that's where he's at his strongest. Or that Pica, the stone assimilating human, is tasked with guarding a massive stone castle.
But with those three fruits it was just painfully obvious that they were introduced as convenient storytelling devices (and nothing else). They might still be operating within the established rules of the world, but it's still so…. unsophisticated. You could tell that Oda was really stretching the limits of those abilities to create the foundation of the plot, as well as neat cliffhangers.
Maybe it's a petty complaint, but it still irked me a lot back then.
Personally i thought Smoker had lots of juicy screentime in Punk Hazard.
Most time to shine he's gotten so far.
Yeah, and he still has lot of room to grow. It always seemed obvious to me that he would be the EOS Fleet Admiral, with Coby as an Admiral. The good guys being in charge when everything is said and done.
The holy trinity of bullpuckery: Sugar Sugar no Mi, String Fruit, Op Op Fruit.
Like, it's super flavorful that Crocodile, the sand Logia, picks a desert country as a base of operation. Because that's where he's at his strongest. Or that Pica, the stone assimilating human, is tasked with guarding a massive stone castle.
But with those three fruits it was just painfully obvious that they were introduced as convenient storytelling devices (and nothing else). They might still be operating within the established rules of the world, but it's still so…. unsophisticated. You could tell that Oda was really stretching the limits of those abilities to create the foundation of the plot, as well as neat cliffhangers.
Maybe it's a petty complaint, but it still irked me a lot back then.Yeah, and he still has lot of room to grow. It always seemed obvious to me that he would be the EOS Fleet Admiral, with Coby as an Admiral. The good guys being in charge when everything is said and done.
How about fuji and ryo?
Yes, the fact that they already put a hit on him despite him being a Shichibukai during the Marinford war was why I brought it up (since they didn't even give him the courtesy of telling him beforehand that they were revoking his status, they literally stabbed him in the back). Him still being out there and still being potentially dangerous (and now in Blackbeard's territory, who happens to be another former Shichibukai), not to mention the possibility of a collusion between him and other dangerous entities would be good reason to have him on their hit list too, given his former profile and how easy it would be to recognize him. Obviously his location won't be as well known as the others (or will it?), but if he knows about the other active Shichibukai getting the same boot to the rear as he got, that could inspire him and possibly others like Crocodile to join forces or help the others since they're likely going to be next if they don't make a stand. If the Marines are already shitting their pants over the Kaido and Big Mom alliance, a Shichibukai alliance should also be troubling enough to do something about. But that also plays into my theory that the next great conflict will be a three-way battle with a huge pirate alliance (since that's already largely in the works as we speak), the Revolutionaries and their allied nations, and the Marines and World Government.
Moriah is already on their hit list, just like every other pirate in the world. He has an active bounty and everything. They're basically doing the same with the current warlords as they did with him back then.
What if the reason Im was never mentioned before is because he was turned into a toy by Sugar and was forgotten until Usopp took her down? BOOM! GOda never fails
@LordEnel:
How about fuji and ryo?
Whats with them?
Fujitora's ability is quite straightforward as far as I can tell. He controls gravity, and he trained that power to the point that he can even pull meteors. Natural power-level progression, considering that he's an Admiral.
And I don't think his gravity powers were important to tell the story, at least as far as I remember. He could have had any powerful ability, it was just important that it was powerful (since everything on Dressrosa had to happen on Fuji's mercy). Like, you could have also used Kizaru or Akainu to play his role during the arc (ignoring their personalities for a moment).
But you needed an ability that turns people into slaves, that you can program to do anything you want, AND wipe the memories of people that are not even remotely involved in the conflict. It was the foundation of the arc, not a flavorful addition.
Or Doflamingo's various abilities. I mean sure, let him stitch himself together alright. He has the string fruit after all. Let him turn the entire environment into strings if you want to establish the concept of awakening. Sure, if you must. You can even load him with flavorful paramecia attacks, like a flame whip or invisible webs or something. You can even let him conjure string puppets that look like him. He has a string fruit, so he's also a puppet master. I can swallow that alright.
But was it really necessary to have those string clones act like sentient entities on top of that? Several of them even? That's Robin's ability! The answer is yes, it was necessary if you desperately wanted to pull an exciting cliffhanger where people thought that Doflamingo just got his head cut off, or that Luffy was cornered in a tunnel (but nope not really, because guess what it's a clone).
At that point it just stops being fun for me.
I think he meant what about them being in the good guy marines.
Doflamingo if managed to get raised in a propper environment, would have become a master toymaker, from stuffed animals to beanie babies, after his stitch as a general surgeon.
I think he meant what about them being in the good guy marines.
Ah!
Well, Fujitora is kind of creepy and absolute-justicy? Sometimes?
Since fujitora was not marine until old age and now that his goal to take down the warlords is completed, would he still have any reason to stay in marines or will he retire in the close future.
Ah!
Well, Fujitora is kind of creepy and absolute-justicy? Sometimes?
I'd say Issho's on the Moral Justice spectrum. He prioritized saving civilians over personally going after Doflamingo when the latter pulled his Birdcage gambit.
He may be a bit stricter than a Garp, for example, but he's one of the good ones.
@uniaka:
Since fujitora was not marine until old age and now that his goal to take down the warlords is completed, would he still have any reason to stay in marines or will he retire in the close future.
This is actually an amazing point, completely forgot about that. There was this one thing he wanted to accomplish, and that's done now.
Wonder what Warlord kicked Fuji's puppy to make him join the Marines.