Even Black Panther 2?
I liked Black Panther, particularly the music, but it's nothing I need to see in the theater. Same with Ant Man and Dr. Strange.
TV in my bedroom is pretty big anyway.
Even Black Panther 2?
I liked Black Panther, particularly the music, but it's nothing I need to see in the theater. Same with Ant Man and Dr. Strange.
TV in my bedroom is pretty big anyway.
teasers are usually just like this one, the trailer is gon ruin it all, no doubts.
I have the feeling that one(if there are several) of the post credit scenes will be a massive trolling.
So, it was revealed today at CCX18 (Brazil Comic-Con, I think?), by Tom Holland and Mysterio himself Jake G. during an interview that:
Spider-man: Far From Home story spoilers (given by the cast and Feige himself):
! Spider-man and Mysterio are working together, and, are actually allies. Nick Fury brings in Mysterio to help Peter Parker defeat a group called "The Elementals", since Mysterio seems to have the most knowledge about them (wink Mysterio is probably creating them wink with his illusion shit wink; setting up the twist / betrayal more than likely). Mysterio is also seemingly a mentor to Peter Parker in teaching him how to be a better hero.
! Also. Happy Hogan and Aunt May are in a relationship together, and Peter and MJ are "getting along" if you catch my drift.
! The movie also takes place VERY SHORTLY after Avengers 4, so not before Infinity War like some speculated, but, after Avengers: Endgame
Yes that trailer was perfect. I don't want or need to see anything else of this movie before i sit in the cinema.
I mean, I'd have liked to have seen at least a glimpse of Captain Marvel showing up, but otherwise yeah, I wouldn't mind being surprised. Although I could have done without that weirdness with Hawkeye-what the hell was that gesture he made with the sword supposed to be? I get that it's probably because his whole family got poofed, but still.
Other than the Hawkeye awkwardness, I have to other questions rattling around about it:
1. What did Tony do or say to piss off Nebula so that she ditched his ass and went off on her own?
2. How the crap did Scott get out of the Quantum Realm without help?
The latter question, though, makes me think someone or something down there found him, and is part of whatever plan they have that Cap was all like, "If this doesn't work, I don't know what I'm gonna do." Because other than quantum woo, and without the Time Stone, I have no clue how they're going to mount a plan to get all the way across space and time to take down Thanos and get back what they lost.
I just really hope Michael Pena makes an appearance. I feel like his long-winded tangents would be great during a tense moment.
Oh, Ryan.
I kind of get the feeling that if you did away with the time exhausting action scenes and cgi, you could do a Deadpool movie like once a month with Ryan Reynolds just… doing that nonsense.
I kind of get the feeling that if you did away with the time exhausting action scenes and cgi, you could do a Deadpool movie like once a month with Ryan Reynolds just… doing that nonsense.
But so much of what makes them worth it IS that stuff, not to mention you'd lose out on all the send-ups those action scenes provide. That second Deadpool musical exemplifies that fact.
1. What did Tony do or say to piss off Nebula so that she ditched his ass and went off on her own?
Well they don't know each other(She doesn't even know earth). She's a a bitch. As long as they both insisted on going in one particular they could have easily split.
This is true. Nebula has no reason to want to save Earth.
This is true. Nebula has no reason to want to save Earth.
Revenge on Thanos has nothing to do with saving Earth. But I guess if she's just given up hope then that's it for her arc, underwhelming and not-worth-it as it was. The only logical thing to do at that point is ask the alien robot girl if she knows how to fix and fly spaceships, so if Tony couldn't bother to do that one thing correctly…kinda hard to imagine feeling bad for him if he ends up high and dry from his own error.
Revenge on Thanos has nothing to do with saving Earth. But I guess if she's just given up hope then that's it for her arc, underwhelming and not-worth-it as it was. The only logical thing to do at that point is ask the alien robot girl if she knows how to fix and fly spaceships, so if Tony couldn't bother to do that one thing correctly…kinda hard to imagine feeling bad for him if he ends up high and dry from his own error.
If her arc ends up being anything remotely like the comics, there's some interesting stuff to come.
But the marvel cinematic universe hasn't really stuck close to the actual comic plotlines at all pretty much so there's really no telling.
Thanos will destroy the other half of the universe if it means his precious space corn will be protected.
Is thanos necessary for the second half of Avengers infity war? Because I always tought it would have been a stronger ending if he is among the dead half to show his actual convinction.
Looking for any comic knowledge that would help with that.
Is thanos necessary for the second half of Avengers infity war? Because I always tought it would have been a stronger ending if he is among the dead half to show his actual convinction.
Looking for any comic knowledge that would help with that.
Yes. At least partly because, while sure that might be interesting on an intellectual "I didn't expect that" level, it wouldn't be at all satisfying to the audience to have the villain just kill himself after winning and destroying half the universe, with no chance for payback.
Also, one of the greatest moments in all of comics happens between Cap and Thanos in the second half and we need that scene. Will be incredibly disappointing if that doesn't make it in.
Also worth noting that Infinity War in the comics didn't really have a "Gathering the stones" part of the quest, that was a different story entirely… he basically just started with them. The universe destroying snap the ended the movie was very early in comic.
Is thanos necessary for the second half of Avengers infity war? Because I always tought it would have been a stronger ending if he is among the dead half to show his actual convinction.
Looking for any comic knowledge that would help with that.
I mean, in the comics his killing half of the universe wasn't motivated by any sort of altruistic ideas of how the universe would be better off if there were less lifeforms in it… He just wanted to impress Death. So what you're suggesting really only makes sense for his film incarnation, and any comic comparisons would be kind of meaningless here.
Yes. At least partly because, while sure that might be interesting on an intellectual "I didn't expect that" level, it wouldn't be at all satisfying to the audience to have the villain just kill himself after winning and destroying half the universe, with no chance for payback.
Just beat him up when you undo the snap and he returns.
Also, one of the greatest moments in all of comics happens between Cap and Thanos in the second half and we need that scene. Will be incredibly disappointing if that doesn't make it in.
That is exactly what I'm looking for(like that page were Tony is shooting the shield in infinity war).Could you describe it in spoiler or refer me to the passage?
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I mean, in the comics his killing half of the universe wasn't motivated by any sort of altruistic ideas of how the universe would be better off if there were less lifeforms in it… He just wanted to impress Death. So what you're suggesting really only makes sense for his film incarnation, and any comic comparisons would be kind of meaningless here.
I vaguely remember that(I think I glanced the story once. Death still refused him anyway. He really needs to accept he will never win with her.
Just beat him up when you undo the snap and he returns.
That is exactly what I'm looking for(like that page were Tony is shooting the shield in infinity war).Could you describe it in spoiler or refer me to the passage?
Basically Cap keeps on fighting and makes a stand even when he's one of the last and Thanos is an all powerful omni-god. You got scenes like it in the movie, but never at full power and final end of the universe desperation.
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I suppose we're not likely to get Death to make a cameo in this movie since Thanos isn't trying to impress her.
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/once_upon_a_deadpool/
Once Upon a Deadpool has a 50%, but nobody expected it to be better or even as good as the original. But I'm still going just out of curiosity and a need to see Deadpool snark with Fred Savage.
They should've just remade A Princess Bride with Deadpool in it.
I like the Deadpool movies, they are amusing, Ryan Reynolds is fantastic, but the stories themselves, the action etc are kind of bland. There're memorable moments, but as a whole it's forgettable. They are funny, but not in the laugh-out-loud way as pure comedic films. I can't precisely describe what I want. Breaking the fourth wall is not enough. An R-rated Deadpool movie with these added - but also R-rated Fred Savage moments would be great!
This is the most positive review I've seen Bob give in some time.
Also currently 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. 230 positive reviews, 6 negative. I think we have a winner here.
I mean, everything I've seen about this movie just looks great. My only concern is it may not quite live up to my high expectations. Gonna see it tomorrow.
I'm seeing it tomorrow too! hope it as good as I've been told
It's fantastic. Avoid in-depth reviews or places that you might remotely get spoiled on anything beyond what you've seen in the trailers and see it.
Just saw Into the Spider-verse
! As expected, it was pretty damn sweet, and pretty much met my expectations. The only real complaint I have is I wish they'd done a bit more with Spider-Ham, Peni Parker, Spider Noir, and especially Gwen Stacy since, in the second half, it felt like they were just relegated to being a collective group of the "other" Spider people.
! Other than that, the movie was on point with the writing, the pacing, the emotion, the fantastic action sequences, and it has an awesome post-credits scene that's definitely worth staying for.
Spider-Verse was probably my favorite Marvel movie. Have felt just generally good for the last few hours after seeing it.
Into The Spider-Verse is the best Spider-Man Movie ever made.
Full stop. No caveats, no qualifications.
The story was Amazing, The characters were Spectacular, The stunning art style was the Ultimate representation of a comic book on the big screen. When compared to the live-action offerings, it's obvious this is the Superior film and it's filled to the brim with an Unlimited amount of love and reverence from the creators.
It was just a Web of Fun.
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[hide]Plus, the best thing ever, Miles comes into his own as Spider-Man over the course of the film without any comic knowledge.
Not kidding, a 6-7yo kid was sitting next to me and during Miles' final battle, the kid excitedly shouted "Get him Spider-Man!"
Not "Get him Miles!" or anything like that. "Get him Spider-Man!"
This kiddo, without any comic knowledge, accepted and rooted for Miles as Spider-Man.
It warmed my heart. Not just because the movie was amazing, but I witnessed the target audience falling in love with Miles.
It was an especially amazing touch that they made Miles an artist, and instead of being given a suit like he is in the comics, he paints the design on it himself.
I love his comic book costume, but I actually might like this more because of how it's tied into his personal growth
I also love how this movie has 3-4 different versions of Peter Parker (depending on if you count Ham) in the movie, but it was FIRMLY Miles' movie. He was the main character and his emotional journey of growth is what centered it.
Also, I can't gush enough about the art style and animation. This is a GORGEOUS movie. It really looked like a comic book come to life. I especially loved that the dimension-hopping machine was made up of Kirby-Crackle. That was such a nice touch.
Predictably, I bawled like a baby at Stan Lee's cameo, and the dedication message at the end of the film.
I think he'd be happy to know a new generation of kids is falling in love with Spidey all over again thanks to this movie.
Also, My girl Spider Gwen was portrayed PERFECT!!! That rumored Spinoff with her, Spider Woman and Silk had better be real, let me tell you.
I get this awesome Gwen in another movie with the same folks giving me Jessica AND Cindy?!
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!![/hide]
Also, like any other comic book movie these days. Stay till after the credits… I won't say what it is.... but it was so goddamn great.
Dare I ask if Stan got a cameo in before his departure?
Dare I ask if Stan got a cameo in before his departure?
! Yes, he did. And a very good one too.
This movie was amazing. Just saw it. Everything is great. Frankly, the end credits alone are worth the price of admission.
! Scratch that, the after credits scene was worth the price of admission. The skill in which this is animated is deeply impressive, and the story doesn't fail either. We're lucky to get a Miles Morales Spiderman movie like this
! Also, should I take Peni crying over her robot dying as parody? A school girl crying over her "dead" robot friend seems like the most anime thing ever. I also appreciate how well the other universe Spiderman were portrayed..
The story was Amazing, The characters were Spectacular, The stunning art style was the Ultimate representation of a comic book on the big screen. When compared to the live-action offerings, it's obvious this is the Superior film and it's filled to the brim with an Unlimited amount of love and reverence from the creators.
I see what you did there.
One quick plot question, which in no way interferes with my enjoyment of the movie:
! We ever find out where Miles's dimensional-glitch-spider came from in the first place? Figured all the Spiderman related stuff only started coming through after Original Pete dropped into the beam.
! That spider was the Ultimate Universe spider so it's most likely a local that was used as a test subject for the dimensional gate.
Spider-Verse was excellent. It nailed pretty much every single one of its major moments, and its screenplay and visual aesthetic were dazzling throughout. These factors made my criticisms relatively minor in the whole scope of things.
! My biggest detraction from the film was the reveal of Uncle Aaron as the Prowler and his subsequent death. The animators and voice actors did everything they could to sell those scenes, but I just wasn't able to digest all of it, as there was a real itch in my mind to understand why Aaron went down that path to begin with that wouldn't go away. Maybe I would know better if I had ever read Morales comics (only read his origin story like six years ago), but I didn't feel like I had everything to fully accept that development as an organic part of the film.
! The group dynamic ended up being fine, although Japanese Spider-Girl, Spider-Man Noir and Spider-Ham felt rather minor in the whole scale of things, feeling more like basic support characters a la the group in Big Hero 6. The villains group also suffered from this, albeit to a lesser extent. Though the creators did make up for the latter by selecting some great villains and outfitting them nicely. And boy was the main villain a home run. I had really wanted to see Kingpin in a Spider-Man film for a really long time, and he was absolutely terrific in every aspect. His backstory and motivation weren't the most original but were still quite tragic.
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is the best superhero movie I have ever seen. It is not perfect, but it still nails all of its aspects so much better than most of the genre that I can overlook the several imperfections it has.
Unlike several MCU films like Ant-Man and Civil War and Guardians 2 and even Infinity War, I feel like this film does not settle for blockbuster money shot expectations with inconsistent characters/messages. There is passion in the gorgeous comic book animation, there is passion in the clever organic humor, there is passion in the heart wrenching drama, there is passion in the mesmerizing action, there is passion in the quirky character designs/art-styles, there is passion in the new and old licensed soundtrack placement, and there is even passion for characterizing Miles Morales to the point that he is a much more memorable character in the film's first five minutes than in the fifty or more comics he's been in since 2011.
Basically, this movie does not settle and brings both a creative vision and A-game execution to the table. That is all I have wanted from a superhero film for the longest time and I finally got it. Even Spider-Man: Homecoming failed at being more than a decent movie and especially a Spider-Man movie in particular on that regard.
@Kaido:
Spider-Verse was excellent. It nailed pretty much every single one of its major moments, and its screenplay and visual aesthetic were dazzling throughout. These factors made my criticisms relatively minor in the whole scope of things.
! My biggest detraction from the film was the reveal of Uncle Aaron as the Prowler and his subsequent death. The animators and voice actors did everything they could to sell those scenes, but I just wasn't able to digest all of it, as there was a real itch in my mind to understand why Aaron went down that path to begin with that wouldn't go away. Maybe I would know better if I had ever read Morales comics (only read his origin story like six years ago), but I didn't feel like I had everything to fully accept that development as an organic part of the film.
! The group dynamic ended up being fine, although Japanese Spider-Girl, Spider-Man Noir and Spider-Ham felt rather minor in the whole scale of things, feeling more like basic support characters a la the group in Big Hero 6. The villains group also suffered from this, albeit to a lesser extent. Though the creators did make up for the latter by selecting some great villains and outfitting them nicely. And boy was the main villain a home run. I had really wanted to see Kingpin in a Spider-Man film for a really long time, and he was absolutely terrific in every aspect. His backstory and motivation weren't the most original but were still quite tragic.
I share your critiques and more.
! - Uncle Aaron: The comics never dive too deep into how Uncle Aaron became the Prowler. It's basically just: Aaron and Jefferson were adolescent brothers in a rough neighborhood that got involved with crime, Jefferson eventually got out to become a cop while Aaron never did (Jefferson also revealed to Miles that he became a double agent for SHIELD, but it was a boring spy thriller plotline no one remembers or cares when it was clear that Miles' creator Brian Michael Bendis had no idea where to take Miles' character after his first solo series). And somehow that criminal background escalated into Aaron becoming a costumed supervillain. Aaron has a couple or so vague lines in the movie about how he and Jefferson used to break the law when they were younger but that's it.
! But unlike the movie, the comics emphasize that Uncle Aaron's Prowler identity specializes in being a thief (which is a much more simple secret identity to swallow then being a trained high-tech enforcer for a crime boss) and eventually recycles supervillain tech like Spider-Man: Homecoming's Vulture (he's used both Vulture's wings and Shocker's vibro-gauntlets). And when he finds out Miles is Spider-Man, he extorts Miles into teaming up with him so they can take down criminals that Aaron owes money to until Miles fights back and Aaron accidentally kills himself Raimi trilogy style with damaged supervillain tech that explodes. Aaron's a lot more of an irredeemable scumbag in the comics but the situation there is also more grounded and fascinating lol.
! So I can somewhat agree that Aaron coincidentally being a supervillain is a bit too coincidental and quirky to swallow without a bit more exploration, but it still works as a twist and syncs with Miles' internal conflicts based on how great their interactions were. And I really like Prowler's design with the huge sci-fi metal gauntlets, the cape, and how his shadows ominously moved when Miles was in his apartment (it even made me forgive that cheap jumpscare).
! I think one more scene in-between Miles finding out Aaron is the Prowler and Kingpin's assault on Aunt May's house could have made this all work. Like Aaron reading the cry for help note Miles wrote at his apartment (that never got touched on) and sending an ironic text or voicemail giving Miles advice about overcoming his fears that plays into Miles' later character development and gives inferred hints at how/why Aaron adapted to the supervillain business on an emotional level that could parallel how Miles emotionally develops into becoming Spider-Man.
! - Spider-People: Yup, the other Spider-People don't add anything to the movie besides fixing a flash drive-I mean goober, having neat action choreography/art-styles, and delivering humor (Noir easily had the funniest bits. And being voiced by Nicolas Cage is the cherry on top. But they don't take away from the movie either, the focus is balanced better than I expected. Although it's weird how Noir and Spider-Ham kicked ass in the final battles while Peni got clobbered and had a forgettable robo-buddy death. I guess her shining moment in compensation was fixing the goober earlier in the movie? I can get that I guess.
! Although I feel like even Gwen and middle aged Peter could have used a bit more character arc prominence since all of the Spider-Men become mostly indistinguishable outside of Miles by the film's second half or so. Like having a couple minutes dedicated to Gwen reacting to being next to a Peter that's still alive and relating to Miles about the guilt of being "responsible" for each of their Peter's deaths (she has a couple lines along these lines but they are way too vague and quick to have any weight). Or seeing how Peter gets over his self-pity enough to want to sacrifice himself for everybody by staying behind (although maybe I could buy that as an extension of his depression affecting his self-esteem rather than truly being that compassionate). Changing the alternate universe Mary Jane reunion into that instead of an awkward melancholy humor scene about bread would have been a better use of that screen time.
! All that being said, Miles' and Peter's farewell sequence was so damn well written and built-up on their previous interactions that I still love how their relationship turned out.
! - Willie Fisk: I too have wanted to see Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie for the longest time. And I liked his voice acting in this movie, his murder scenes (the sound design for when he killed blonde Peter could have had a little bit more oomph to it), and his character design is phenomenally quirky and makes for a couple great shots. But I could seriously care less about his flashback and Rick and Morty motivation lol. The flashback comes out of nowhere after the Spider-Men escape from Doc Ock and Alchemax (love that Spider-Man 2099 lore reference), I have no attachment to his family at all, and they die in a rather coincidental cliche way. I could have gotten more into it if more screen time was dedicated to Willie Fisk, but I am surprised that you were more invested in this than with the Uncle Aaron drama. But hey, I suppose it's still better than MCU Thanos' half-assed origin story and motivation reasoning lol.
! On a side note, outside of Peter B. Parker's weird dumb idea to try to charm her, I really liked Olivia Octavius's personality and design. Her hair, those plastic-y tentacles, and her nerdy but sadistic fascination with the Spider-People is a neat alternate on the villain. I would actually love to see her return in the recently rumored Spider-Women spin-off movie. I wouldn't even mind MCU Doc Ock being gender-swapped like this either. Gobby has an interesting design, Tombstone is practically nonexistent, and I like Scorpion's design for what it is and it lends to neat action shots (especially making him Hispanic like the Ultimate version), but I still prefer his classic green outfit way more. I really hope they adapt it for the MCU and modernize it like MCU Vulture while also making it an inverse of Spider-Man's red and blue outfit if they make Michael Mando's Mac Gargan into the Scorpion.
And here are some other nitpicks I can add:
! - The spider that bit Miles is never explained, only hinted to be related to the Collider experiments because of the numbers on its abdomen and it glitching. But even that makes no sense since the Collider doesn't react to anything spider-related until later on. This could have easily been covered if we could a quick cut in the opening montage to the spider colliding with an early Collider experiment similar to Peter's radioactive spider interacting with the science experiment. If they want, the spider could be a setup for a sequel/spin-off starring Spider-Man 2099 by connecting it to Alchemax and the genetic experiments in the future.
! - So I'm just supposed to buy that Gwen is the only Spider-person who came to New York as early as a week before Peter's death AND had enough time to register into a prestigious magnet/private high school even though the Collider brought all of the Spider-People into the film right before Parker's death? Sorry, I'm not going to ignore this by handwaving a singular inconsistent instance like this as timey whiny dimension travel shenanigans I shouldn't think too hard about. I know the film acknowledges that Gwen literally got knocked into ext week, but that still does not explain how none of the other Spider-Men were displaced in time. I suppose it was a necessary concession to organically build-up Gwen's existence and I can let it go, but it's still arbitrarily convenient.
! - I felt like all of the pressure the spider people suddenly put on Miles felt a little too sudden and prejudicial. I get what it was going for but, like, Jesus Christ, they practically assaulted the poor kid. He's only been Spider-Man for a day but they're acting as if he had to be perfect while they all surely sucked just as much during their first days on the job too. It still fits with the narrative of Miles needing to be left behind because he is not properly trained yet, but it's framed in a weird way where Miles is somehow different or weird for not immediately understanding how to be a competent Spider-Man in that one Spider-Cave basement scene.
! - The movie's character development climax does that cliche thing where the protagonist learns how to master their abilities through pep talks and self-actualization (think every single Kung Fu Panda movie, all of which I still love). Which can work if you set up the character's powers working based on mental strength and/or emotional processing. And I guess the movie kind of sets that up by having Miles use the Venom Strike on Peter as a reflex and the camouflage working with his fight-or-flight instances. Yet as excellently written as Jefferson's monologue in Miles' high school dorm was, it's hard for me to buy that understanding your potential and becoming self-assured means you will immediately master powers based on nervous reactions. But the scene is mainly about Miles having the confidence to leap off buildings to web-swing with a leap of faith that he failed at earlier in the movie, so on that point it mostly works (although even that's a little wonky because it frames Miles' earlier failure as lacking the web shooters Peter invented/Aunt May gave him rather than actual character flaws).
! - I don't get why Kingpin let Miles get back up in the final fight. Just gorilla pummel him down again or slam a random car door in his face. There is no reason to stand back in awe at him getting up. That can work depending on the plot/character writing, but it was not earned here and felt like a hokey way to connect with the "Spider-Man always gets back up" moral.
! - This isn't even really a nitpick so much as a missed opportunity, but remember when blonde Peter warned Miles that he can't go to the authorities for help because Kingpin has everyone in his pocket? Since Miles' dad is a straight-laced cop, Kingpin's corruption could have been a small interesting plot element to explore with Jefferson and organically weave him into the plot more than just waltzing into Fisk's private estate and Collider basement. It would even make Jefferson changing his mind about Spider-Man work better since he assume Spider-Man is a good guy in that moment for no reason despite thinking Spidey killed his brother. But the movie is understandably WAY too crowded as it is for that lol.
It is weird how I have all of those details to critique, yet still ADORE the movie and can overlook most of those things when it comes to the quality in literally everything else. As well as having both the best Stan lee cameo and after-credits scene ever that I will always hold dear to me.
I am going to rewatch this film at least two more times to pick up any details I missed, see if my critiques hold up, and redeem myself for watching Venom twice in the same day. We need more movies like this. Not Venom. I don't need to deal with more Venom. Or anymore Sony solo villain flicks. Please.
So it's better than, say, Avengers 1? Or the first Iron Man? Or The Dark Knight?
I would definitely say so, although it's been a long time since I have seen Avengers and Iron man 1. And the Dark Knight's only great because of the Joker's scenes. Take that away and the movie doesn't have much going for it.
So it's better than, say, Avengers 1? Or the first Iron Man? Or The Dark Knight?
I'm not willing to go that far yet, I need to marinate on it some more and see it a few more times….but this is shooting to the top of the charts for me. It could crack my top three of Avengers, CA: The Winter Soldier, and Man of Steel (They aren't in any order but those have always rotated in my top 3.)
I'll say this for now, it's the best comicbook/superhero/animated movie of the year....it's also one of the overall best movies of the year, and the best Spider-Man movie to date, live action or otherwise.
And for those who know what I'm talking about, Jon Schnepp would be all sorts of sweaty over this movie. My god I wish I could hear his take on this movie.
Nice. Now I just have to find the time to see it.
@Count:
And the Dark Knight's only great because of the Joker's scenes. Take that away and the movie doesn't have much going for it.
Fair enough. Although a movie that has a good villain is always like 10x better. Just ask any Disney movie.
@Count:
! - So I'm just supposed to buy that Gwen is the only Spider-person who came to New York as early as a week before Peter's death AND had enough time to register into a prestigious magnet/private high school even though the Collider brought all of the Spider-People into the film right before Parker's death? Sorry, I'm not going to ignore this by handwaving a singular inconsistent instance like this as timey whiny dimension travel shenanigans I shouldn't think too hard about. I know the film acknowledges that Gwen literally got knocked into ext week, but that still does not explain how none of the other Spider-Men were displaced in time. I suppose it was a necessary concession to organically build-up Gwen's existence and I can let it go, but it's still arbitrarily convenient.
! We really only knew about Gwen and Peter's arrival time. Penni, Noir and Porker (maybe the 42 spider as well?) could have arrived around the same time Gwen did and decided to hang low until Spidey's death clued them in to go visit Aunt May.
Not sure what else there is to say. Spider-verse was great.
It's honestly kind of crazy to me that this is the first majorly successful theatrical animated movie based on a Marvel/DC hero, like, ever. I guess there was Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, but I don't think that was a wide release. I really hope we get more aside from just Spider-verse stuff (though I'm 100% down for more of that too).
Not sure what else there is to say. Spider-verse was great.
It's honestly kind of crazy to me that this is the first majorly successful theatrical animated movie based on a Marvel/DC hero, like, ever. I guess there was Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, but I don't think that was a wide release. I really hope we get more aside from just Spider-verse stuff (though I'm 100% down for more of that to).
Believe it or not, Mask of the Phantasm did get a wide release….but it only made 1.1 Million.
This movie is so insane. There is so much going on in this movie....first this being a Miles Morales movie, so establishing his story, introducing multiple different spider people into the film, the insane new animation style, all the different villains, a hip hop soundtrack (A spider man movie with the Notorious BIG in it, CRAZY!), establishing a multiverse and crazy sci-fi stuff, and have to make it so that not only Spiderman fans get what is going on and make them happy, but them have to make kids and parents who don't know anything about this also happy.
There is so much that should not have worked and should have gone wrong....and it never does. This movie is all sorts of wonderful for fans....and you can take your grandma to it and she can enjoy it.
This movie is amazing. Appreciate this one folks, this is one for the ages.
! We really only knew about Gwen and Peter's arrival time. Penni, Noir and Porker (maybe the 42 spider as well?) could have arrived around the same time Gwen did and decided to hang low until Spidey's death clued them in to go visit Aunt May.
! That could have happened, but is still a tiny but too convoluted if I'm just supposed to give the benefit of the doubt when Peter B. Parker was the first example and this could have been solved with an extra couple lines or even a gag.
! I do really like you suggestion that this could be how the radioactive spider got to Miles though.
Wasn't Lego Batman also good? I didn't watch it as I don't like spanish dubing and I let it go.
I forgot LEGO Batman even existed. That was pretty good too. Althoughnit should have made better use of Batman's rogues gallery outside of the Joker instead of shovong in random pop culture villains.
I'm somewhat torn on whether or not to go see that film.
On onehand everyone raves about it so it must be decent.
But on the other i absolutely loathe parallel universe stories.
I'm somewhat torn on whether or not to go see that film.
On onehand everyone raves about it so it must be decent.
But on the other i absolutely loathe parallel universe stories.
I would definitely say there is more quality, creativity, and heart in this story's writing than the usual parallel universe story. The ones that bore me are ones that have heroes and villains with opposite moralities like DC loves to do. Being born evil or turned evil in a different universe does not mean anything and only looks gimmicky unless it explores an actual existent flaws in the main version of that character.
The film's main message shown through the alternate Spider-People is that anyone can become a hero like Spider-Man in their own different way. That has always been the core of his relatability and masked identity appeal. So I think you would probably like it.
Did anyone else get spiderman cards when they went see spiderman into the spider verse???
This is better than anything I could have asked for this Christmas:
Believe it or not, Mask of the Phantasm did get a wide release….but it only made 1.1 Million.
That's because Warners didn't advertise it. At all. People didn't know it existed. And it was also just brushed off as a kids movie. Even critics like Siskel and Ebert who reviewed everything didn't review it until they saw it on video three years later.
Same thing happened to Iron Giant. Zero advertising, (and what advertising they had was awful) then the film being a cartoon is blamed for it failing.