Pixar movies
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I’d say it’s very commonplace nowadays, like the message might have had more impact if done in an earlier era. Or maybe i’m Overestimating how liberal those types of values are amongst folks.
But it’s a mix of the setting/timeline of the story along with Mr/Mrs being on the older side than them being young millennial that make it work in it’s favor.
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I hope that the "moping because I'm a stay at home dad" thing is not the whole plot of the movie.
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Wait, "Superheroes are illegal"? Wasn't the whole point of the last movie's ending that this was now no longer the case or something? At least that's how I always interpreted it.
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That guy in a suit is obviously evil.
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I hope that the "moping because I'm a stay at home dad" thing is not the whole plot of the movie.
Same, I could do without Bob's character arc being about overcoming his insecurity about his wife working. I'm also hoping that the movie amounts to more than a role reversal between Bob and Helen compared to the first film. Although there don't seem to be any secrets between the two this time, which could become more interesting or more boring.
Maybe it could be good if they really focus on some very insightful and moving parenting experiences with quirky superhero twists instead of solely using Bob's side of the plot for gags.
That guy in a suit is obviously evil.
True, but he also seems like obvious red herring bait. Guy's even voiced by Saul Goodman.
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Wait, "Superheroes are illegal"? Wasn't the whole point of the last movie's ending that this was now no longer the case or something? At least that's how I always interpreted it.
They had become illegal and be permitted to fad into obscurity then they did a super cool stuff that make the people love them again.Limo guy mentioned politician were still discussing if they can come out of hiding.
So they were more or less inmurky waters. Not super illegal but not sanction by law either.
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The trailer didn't focus very much on Helen's side of the story. It seemed more interested in marketing the "Haha, the DAD has to take care of the kids! How wacky!" aspect which is lame. Also wondering how these two plots will intertwine. Seems the stuff with Bob being a stay-at-home dad is being played more for laughs than anything. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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It's the first trailer, so we'll probably get another one with a little more insight into the story as a whole. This one is just to get people's attention and stick in their memories.
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My main hope is that it took Brad Bird over a decade to come up with an idea that he felt was worth doing a movie for, and Pixar was willing to wait for that. So I hope that's really true and genuine.
And not just them saying that because marketing.
Bird's track record is super solid but after his live action films I have some doubts.
Here's the new sneak peak of Incredibles 2
[/ video]From the new teaser, Incredibles 2 is looking to be great as the first one.
Please please please please please please please don't have the rich tycoon helping them out be revealed to be the twist villain/asshole at the end.
They just did that with Coco. And Cars 3. ANd Toy Story 3. And Monsters Inc. And Up. And Zootopia. ANd Frozen. ANd Wreck it Ralph. And…
I hope that the "moping because I'm a stay at home dad" thing is not the whole plot of the movie.
Pixar is usually pretty good about not showing more than the first 1/3 of their movies in the trailers, with maybe the exceptions of Wall-E and Up… though with Up they didn't show any of the first 10 minutes so there you go and Wall-E's format meant they didn't really have a choice.
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My main hope is that it took Brad Bird over a decade to come up with an idea that he felt was worth doing a movie for, and Pixar was willing to wait for that. So I hope that's really true and genuine.
My main worry is that it took Brad Bird over a decade only to come up with a sequel having Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl's roles reversed. I hope there's more under the seams than that.
Please please please please please please please don't have the rich tycoon helping them out be revealed to be the twist villain/asshole at the end.
They just did that with Coco. And Cars 3. ANd Toy Story 3. And Monsters Inc. And Up. And Zootopia. ANd Frozen. ANd Wreck it Ralph. And…
And this is why we don't have memorable Disney villains anymore.
Pixar is usually pretty good about not showing more than the first 1/3 of their movies in the trailers, with maybe the exceptions of Wall-E and Up… though with Up they didn't show any of the first 10 minutes so there you go and Wall-E's format meant they didn't really have a choice.
That's slightly relieving to hear.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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Honestly, this was actually pretty entertaining for a Pixar teaser trailer. Their trailers never tend to capture the main essence of the movie so I've learned to not be particularly worried about the plot based on them.
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This made me laugh.
Please please please please please please please don't have the rich tycoon helping them out be revealed to be the twist villain/asshole at the end.
They just did that with Coco. And Cars 3. ANd Toy Story 3. And Monsters Inc. And Up. And Zootopia. ANd Frozen. ANd Wreck it Ralph. And…
Reading the wiki summary it says the tycoon runs his business with his sister. So what I think (hope) is that the tycoon is a jerk but a good guy, and his sister is the secret villain.
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Reading the wiki summary it says the tycoon runs his business with his sister. So what I think (hope) is that the tycoon is a jerk but a good guy, and his sister is the secret villain.
I'm predicting something like this as well. Although I would prefer the true villain having superpowers this time so there's an actual final fight. Syndrome never truly got that, the Incredibles were mostly stuck with the Omnidroid.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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That's slightly relieving to hear.
In particular, I think Brave's trailers didn't have anything past maybe the 25 minute mark. Not really anything past the archery contest. And absolutely nothing about anyone becoming a bear.
…and then the toy commercials completely spoiled that.
Reading the wiki summary it says the tycoon runs his business with his sister. So what I think (hope) is that the tycoon is a jerk but a good guy, and his sister is the secret villain.
That would be just as bad. Fakeout villain twist is getting really played out. Especially since they already sort of did it with Syndrome in the first one. Sure, once he was on screen he was obviously evil and the whole setup was suspicious from the start but there was a long stretch of film where it was an altruistic company.
This is a superhero movie, play with having a real, memorable villain.
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In particular, I think Brave's trailers didn't have anything past maybe the 25 minute mark. Not really anything past the archery contest. And absolutely nothing about anyone becoming a bear.
…and then the toy commercials completely spoiled that.
Why does your quote say you're responding to Sano when I typed "That's slightly relieving to hear."?
But yeah, good point.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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Well, we have the Underminer for at least the first half of the movie.
@Count:
I'm predicting something like this as well. Although I would prefer the true villain having superpowers this time so there's an actual final fight. Syndrome never truly got that, the Incredibles were mostly stuck with the Omnidroid.
Hey, his sister (or he) might have superpowers, nothing says they don't.
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Well, we have the Underminer for at least the first half of the movie.
Uh, no we don't. They said he's only going to be in a large action piece sequence for the first few minutes of the movie. He's going to be like how Crossbones was in the start of Captain America: Civil War. I would be surprised to see him be main character given his seemingly cliche Mole Man characterization.
Hey, his sister (or he) might have superpowers, nothing says they don't.
Perhaps. But it would be weird for him to ask for a super's help if he doesn't have powers. Not that he can't secretly have powers but be in some sort of predicament.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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Everything they're trying to sell us on is Mr. Incredible being a homemaker and how crazy hilarious that is. And I'm not into it.
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@Count:
Why does your quote say you're responding to Sano when I typed "That's slightly relieving to hear."?
But yeah, good point.
Some sort of forum burp from my previous post? I dunno.
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@Count:
Uh, no we don't. They said he's only going to be in a large action piece sequence for the first few minutes of the movie. He's going to be like how Crossbones was in the start of Captain America: Civil War. I would be surprised to see him be main character given his seemingly cliche Mole Man characterization.
Well fuck, never mind then.
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@Below:
Everything they're trying to sell us on is Mr. Incredible being a homemaker and how crazy hilarious that is. And I'm not into it.
There's nothing incredible about something so mundane. Unless it's just a set up like the boring job of Bob in the first movie, but judging from the trailer it seems to be played for much longer.
Hopefully it will bring across my favorite moment of the previous movie:
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The tycoon thing sorta reminds me of One Punch Man where the hero's association is treated more like a business with the heroes being more employees/celebrities.
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Somebody translated one of the songs from Coco. Always nice to know what they're saying. Such a pretty song, too.
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So here's a video that uses evidence from what we know so far and LEGO toy leaks to discuss who the main antagonist in Incredibles II has pretty much a 99% chance of being:
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I finally saw Coco recently after missing it in the theaters like an idiot.
That movie was beautiful. I bawled my eyes out at the end.
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Welp, I'm kind of excited again. That trailer was much more interesting than what had been shown so far.
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The last line of that trailer gave me life
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ScreenSlaver looks AMAZING. From less than 10 seconds of film.
Also, if more Frozone means more Samuel L. Jackson in the movie, I'm all for it.
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Is it weird that the thing I found most exciting was, that Frozone finally found his super suit?
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After watching the trailer again, anybody else think that Violet's eyes look kinda weird? Like she's got wrinkles or something.
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I'm pretty sure that Violet has always had those rings around her eyes; it's just that they weren't as obvious on older screens and television.
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Yeah, they were in the first film as well.
Her hair made it less noticeable before this scene.
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Also watching that just reminds me of how poorly 3D animation ages compared to 2D.
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Not watching the trailer. I'm pre-sold, I want to know NOTHING.
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This is an interesting article that I think I mostly agree with:
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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The problem I have with most of these articles is that it makes it seem like the similarities between the Incredibles and Watchmen was intentional, but based what Brad Bird has said, that's not the case. Brad has admitted that the only superhero (at least back when the Incredibles came out) he was familiar with was Will Eisner's Spirit, a far different creature than Moore's Charlton re-imaginations. He hadn't read Watchmen at the time and barely knew anything about (if at all) until people starting asking him questions after the Incredibles was released.
(Similarly, why any connection to the F4 and the Incredibles are superficial at best, because Bird gave them powers that are best related to their traditional family roles, i.e. dads are meant to be strong, teenagers are insecure and defensive, etc. Contrast that with the stiff shirt elastic-man leader, and the flaming idiot teen of Marvel's first family.)
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The problem I have with most of these articles is that it makes it seem like the similarities between the Incredibles and Watchmen was intentional, but based what Brad Bird has said, that's not the case. Brad has admitted that the only superhero (at least back when the Incredibles came out) he was familiar with was Will Eisner's Spirit, a far different creature than Moore's Charlton re-imaginations. He hadn't read Watchmen at the time and barely knew anything about (if at all) until people starting asking him questions after the Incredibles was released.
(Similarly, why any connection to the F4 and the Incredibles are superficial at best, because Bird gave them powers that are best related to their traditional family roles, i.e. dads are meant to be strong, teenagers are insecure and defensive, etc. Contrast that with the stiff shirt elastic-man leader, and the flaming idiot teen of Marvel's first family.)
Damn what did Reed and Johnny do to for you to go in on them like that.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Damn what did Reed and Johnny do to for you to go in on them like that.
Uhm. Those are their traditional defining traits. Reed is the stiff scientist who in looking at the bigger view often becomes a complete asshole (and he's also awful to women and completely dismissive of Sue) and Jonny… is almost always portrayed as a hot head that acts before he thinks, no matter what stupid situation he jumps into.
Its not an insult, it's what they ARE. Some of that is just a result of them being made in the 60's an no one figuring out in the 50 years since how to update them at all and have them still be the same characters.
Someday someone that grew up on One Piece is going to get a shot at the FF though and do something interesting with Reed and people will wonder how the hell that potential was missed for so many years.
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Damn what did Reed and Johnny do to for you to go in on them like that.
…Nothing. Like Robby said, that's who they are as characters, and that's what makes them so good. Hell, the F4 are probably my favorite of the classical Silver Age Marvel runs (yes, even more than Spider-Man) in spite of the issues of sexism, because they are such flawed people. Ben is a man who uses his rocky exterior and anger to cover up his soft inner core. Sue is well... the woman in the background.
Though, you don't need Luffy to make Reed interesting given that Jack Cole already did that decades before with Plastic Man.
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The Venture Bros. version of the F4 is pretty spot on.
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John Lasseter will be officially out by the end of 2018: https://deadline.com/2018/06/pixar-co-founder-john-lasseter-departs-amid-growing-sense-he-wasnt-welcome-1202406805/
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cries Why, John? Whyyyyyyy?
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That whole sad scenario raises questions for me about the way the entire situation with Brave went down and also makes me wonder how much impact this had on other films in production.
If I recall correctly, Lasseter had zero faith in Tangled being successful and now I wonder how much of that was that he didn't think films with female leads could be successful.
Complicating things since 2009.
