I bet Oda's going to say Jinbei is Hawaiian and I'm gonna be like:
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I bet Oda's going to say Jinbei is Hawaiian and I'm gonna be like:
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@The:
I bet Oda's going to say Jinbei is Hawaiian and I'm gonna be like:
Maybe fat and jolly is what the Japanese think of when they think Hawai.
Then again most everyone should appear to be fat/bulky in the eyes of the Japanese
It's hard to un-French Sanji. It just works best. I could maybe see a distance Italian due to the suits and attitude he sometimes gets.
He doesn't has the nose for it.. :ninja:
He doesn't has the nose for it.. :ninja:
Capone certainly has the Italian nose.
Not that anyone was doubting that the dapper mob boss was Italian.
He doesn't has the nose for it.. :ninja:
I dunno, accurate or no, sometimes French stereotypes have big noses like you get with us Italian blooded too.
Ex-President Sarkozy definitely had him a genuine Roman nose. And I always thought of him as being a sort of walking stereotype.
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Capone certainly has the Italian nose.
Not that anyone was doubting that the dapper mob boss was Italian.
To the Japanese even you guys have immense schnozes y'know!
Maybe oda heard of stereotypes of Africans having larger noses and he thinks all Africans look like usopp :ninja:
That by itself is already a pretty stong argument against it tough.
In what way? The conversation is already in the realm of hypothetical AU scenarios where objectivity doesn't exist and the information is being given directly by Oda. It's open and shut, there's no case against it possible.
Not to mention Oda did that color spread in 790 and gave almost all of them different flags and nationalities than he did in the SBS.
So? Placing them in front of flags and directly saying what their point of origin would be in a non-canon alternate reality scenario are two entirely different things.
It's as if they were things Oda didn't put serious thought into!
Because the situation is one that doesn't warrant serious thought and it never will. It's an alternate universe what-if scenario. It's never going to pan out and nothing will come of it in terms of the actual canon storyline. The information he has given is as far as it's ever going to go.
This conversation was from the beginning in the realm of non-canon what-ifs with information pertaining to it already given by Oda. You guys are arguing with "fanfiction" that Oda himself made. I don't get what you're trying to accomplish. It seems like you're unhappy with what Oda said, so you're splitting hairs over sematics to invalidate his flights of fancy to validate your own desires for what should be in a hypothetical alternate fanfiction universe of Oda's making.
I've tried to lead this horse to water enough, so I'm now going to walk away from this bizarre argument of people disagreeing with Oda's imagination. However, you guys can feel free to continue arguing with clouds all you want, knock yourselves out.
@Long:
Maybe oda heard of stereotypes of Africans having larger noses and he thinks all Africans look like usopp :ninja:
We kinda do. With that and the hair I always saw a little of Usopp in myself.
While I was working in China one woman told me, "I love your big American nose." I just smiled, she almost made me blush.
I do like how Oda and people in general say "Africa" like it's a country…
To be fair, I doubt anyone who isn't an anthropologist could describe in any meaningful detail the cultural differences between Burkina Faso and Niger. Or even Senegal and Mozambique.
To be fair, I doubt anyone who isn't an anthropologist could describe in any meaningful detail the cultural differences between Burkina Faso and Niger. Or even Senegal and Mozambique.
Perhaps, but there seems to be as much in common between an arab from Tunisia and a zulu from SA than between a frenchman and a japanese…
Or Norway, Denmark and Sweden. I can only tell us apart because i'm raised here
Most of those i sorta get. But what exactly is supposed to make Nami Swedish?
Is there some greedy Swede stereotype flying around Japan i've missed or what?
Aren't sweedish women suppose to be hot ? Same for russian ?
As for Ussop, he's tanned and has frizzy hair.Then he can be african, arab or persian. Well, something like that. Oda should have said arab or persian. Sounds a bit racist to say african…
What country Carrot would be from ? England ? Strong, independent women ? Suffragettes ?
In what way? The conversation is already in the realm of hypothetical AU scenarios where objectivity doesn't exist and the information is being given directly by Oda. It's open and shut, there's no case against it possible.
Like I said, it was Oda just sort of spitballing places that fit their vibe. You quoted him saying "their image".
It's a shallow quick association that looks to be just for fun at the moment.
Robby already pointed out how he did different nations later on a recent color spread.
You're taking it far too seriously, applying far too much depth to Oda's thought process, and also not comprehending the sort of thing it was.
You still think it was "THIS IS THE NATIONALITY THEY ARE IF THEY LIVED IN REAL WORLD" which it blatantly is not according to what you posted.
If Oda associated solar system planets to them for fun, would you also think he was saying "WHAT PLANET THEY WOULD BE FROM IN REAL LIFE"?
So? Placing them in front of flags and directly saying what their point of origin would be in a non-canon alternate reality scenario are two entirely different things.
You should seriously go and read the quote you yourself quoted in your own post. Because absolutely nothing Oda says has anything to do with alternate reality scenarios.
You seem to be acting like the SBS question itself is the authority, when it's y'know, Oda.
Oda's response is a sort of shrug and he just goes and picks places based off their image. Which is the exact same for fun exercise in thought he did again in that color spread with the flags (they aren't just near flags either, they're literally dressed in clothing associated with those countries).
Because the situation is one that doesn't warrant serious thought and it never will. It's an alternate universe what-if scenario. It's never going to pan out and nothing will come of it in terms of the actual canon storyline. The information he has given is as far as it's ever going to go.
It's not even information. It's on the level of favorite food, colors, associated animals etc. Just random possibly even shifting association games he does sometimes in SBS.
And a ton of the color spreads are random association games. Oh look they're associated with fruit, here's them embodying different kung-fu tropes, here's them with animal versions of themselves.
It seems like you're unhappy with what Oda said, so you're splitting hairs over sematics to invalidate his flights of fancy to validate your own desires for what should be in a hypothetical alternate fanfiction universe of Oda's making.
People misunderstanding stuff and then spreading misunderstandings around is annoying.
Telling you you were wrong doesn't produce the debate, deciding this is the hill to die upon on your part is.
I've tried to lead this horse to water enough, so I'm now going to walk away from this bizarre argument of people disagreeing with Oda's imagination.
Oda practically verbatim said what I said it was, the countries were selected based on a quick spit-take association with their vibe. To quote Oda, "fits their image".
If people are piling words on you, its because you're being insanely wrong over directly quoted words and that kind of stubborn weirdness attracts a crowd.
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We kinda do. With that and the hair I always saw a little of Usopp in myself.
While I was working in China one woman told me, "I love your big American nose." I just smiled, she almost made me blush.
East Asians tend to have real tiny noses, so they must be pretty wowed when they see the big and broad black noses, and the big ol' triangle noses from Europe and especially the Mediterranean/Middle East.
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To be fair, I doubt anyone who isn't an anthropologist could describe in any meaningful detail the cultural differences between Burkina Faso and Niger. Or even Senegal and Mozambique.
Africa is the same as any continent, there are big and obviously distinct cultural regions across it that anyone with internet access and a library can dig into lol.
Though basing it on country borders is a really bad idea doomed for failure.
Senegal and Mozambique are on nearly opposite sides of the continent so that really isn't a toughie right there.
Burkina Faso and Niger are more or less in the same sub-region.
Many people think that carrot is gonna join the crew while i think that she lacks the the unique aspects that makes her a candidate for the Straw Hats crew. I understand that Carrot is different from the others with her electro and being a mink, but still think that those two aspects are not that big in her character. This led me to think that from Jinbi's introduction until now, we haven't seen a character that is truly unique and we can really say that if he or she joins he/she will blend in with the others easily!
Anybody agrees with this statement? I'd love to see what you think
Many people think that carrot is gonna join the crew while i think that she lacks the the unique aspects that makes her a candidate for the Straw Hats crew. I understand that Carrot is different from the others with her electro and being a mink, but still think that those two aspects are not that big in her character. This led me to think that from Jinbi's introduction until now, we haven't seen a character that is truly unique and we can really say that if he or she joins he/she will blend in with the others easily!
Anybody agrees with this statement? I'd love to see what you think
You didn't said anything new that wasn't discussed short ago.
Many people think that carrot is gonna join the crew while i think that she lacks the the unique aspects that makes her a candidate for the Straw Hats crew. I understand that Carrot is different from the others with her electro and being a mink, but still think that those two aspects are not that big in her character. This led me to think that from Jinbi's introduction until now, we haven't seen a character that is truly unique and we can really say that if he or she joins he/she will blend in with the others easily!
Anybody agrees with this statement? I'd love to see what you think
There have been some insanely unique characters since Jinbe was formally introduced like Ivankov but for the most part none of them stood out as Straw Hat material. Well stood out in a way that a huge portion of the fanbase could see it coming a mile away like Brook. Even with Vol 64's cover and title plenty of people said Jinbe stuck out like sore thumb. Even I hate that drawing of Jinbe! >:(
But when it comes to blending in there will be a large and loud portion of fans who will be against it for the better half of a decade. Even after the time skip, how many people would still complain they still don't see Franky or Brook as a true Straw Hat?
I think Jinbe blends in well enough already. If this isn't a Straw Hat, I don't know what is.
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Many people think that carrot is gonna join the crew while i think that she lacks the the unique aspects that makes her a candidate for the Straw Hats crew. I understand that Carrot is different from the others with her electro and being a mink, but still think that those two aspects are not that big in her character. This led me to think that from Jinbi's introduction until now, we haven't seen a character that is truly unique and we can really say that if he or she joins he/she will blend in with the others easily!
Anybody agrees with this statement? I'd love to see what you think
I think Pekoms could be a Straw Hat if given a chance. He was betrayed and shot in the back by his own ally, Capone, and Tamago, who knows about what happened to his crewmate, didn't even give a shit at all. Plus, who knows if Big Mom still even cares about him at all at this point and Pekoms could be a outcast from his own crew. To me, the Whole Cake Island arc might give Pekoms some time to shine similar to Franky during the Enies Lobby arc. Or I could be making up a fanfic since Luffy said Zou was an "island full of Choppers", if so, then I'll be hibernating until Jinbei's return.
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There have been some insanely unique characters since Jinbe was formally introduced like Ivankov but for the most part none of them stood out as Straw Hat material. Well stood out in a way that a huge portion of the fanbase could see it coming a mile away like Brook. Even with Vol 64's cover and title plenty of people said Jinbe stuck out like sore thumb. Even I hate that drawing of Jinbe! >:(
But when it comes to blending in there will be a large and loud portion of fans who will be against it for the better half of a decade. Even after the time skip, how many people would still complain they still don't see Franky or Brook as a true Straw Hat?
I think Jinbe blends in well enough already. If this isn't a Straw Hat, I don't know what is.
This is the face of a true Straw Hat.:ninja:
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@The:
I think Pekoms could be a Straw Hat if given a chance. He was betrayed and shot in the back by his own ally, Capone, and Tamago, who knows about what happened to his crewmate, didn't even give a shit at all. Plus, who knows if Big Mom still even cares about him at all at this point and Pekoms could be a outcast from his own crew. To me, the Whole Cake Island arc might give Pekoms some time to shine similar to Franky during the Enies Lobby arc. Or I could be making up a fanfic since Luffy said Zou was an "island full of Choppers", if so, then I'll be hibernating until Jinbei's return.
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This is the face of a true Straw Hat.:ninja:
No need for any minks to join since they will just make a mink alliance crew plus chopper already fills the cute mascot spot on the crew so they will make their own crew alliance to the straw hats like the dwarfs,giants did also the three eyes girl sanji is set to marry makes more sense we saw her the same time as big mom before we even knew her name so she could join same time as sanji
Hopefully jinbe turns up sooner rather than later. Even better if it was in the next few chapters which I somewhat doubt.
I'm surprised no one is wondering about Carrot's dad. We'll probably hear about him one day or another. If he was living on Zou I'm pretty sure we'd have already heard about him. Actually, I like to think that her dad is a general in Dragon's army.
As all "important" kid in shonen, her dad is "someone very important". Neketsu rule.
I'm surprised no one is wondering about Carrot's dad. We'll probably hear about him one day or another. If he was living on Zou I'm pretty sure we'd have already heard about him. Actually, I like to think that her dad is a general in Dragon's army.
As all "important" kid in shonen, her dad is "someone very important". Neketsu rule.
Her dad was a carrot she ate him lol.
@sanji''s_dad:
Her dad was a carrot she ate him lol.
Her dad was boss rabbit. Unfortunately he touched himself someday.
Her father was framed and we're still trying to find out who did it.
Poor Roger.
I'm surprised no one is wondering about Carrot's dad. We'll probably hear about him one day or another. If he was living on Zou I'm pretty sure we'd have already heard about him. Actually, I like to think that her dad is a general in Dragon's army.
As all "important" kid in shonen, her dad is "someone very important". Neketsu rule.
Her mum should be more important. She is the 3-eyed rabbit goddess from outer space who ate the 1st devil fruit in the world. And she will appear to one-shot Blackbeard and become the final boss of the series.
@le:
Her mum should be more important. She is the 3-eyed rabbit goddess from outer space who ate the 1st devil fruit in the world. And she will appear to one-shot Blackbeard and become the final boss of the series.
That's the Caruto manga [emoji19]
@Bartholemew:
Her dad was boss rabbit. Unfortunately he touched himself someday.
Maybe Jack cut his foot off in zou.
But it was the wrong one and now he's been having bad luck.
@le:
Her mum should be more important. She is the 3-eyed rabbit goddess from outer space who ate the 1st devil fruit in the world. And she will appear to one-shot Blackbeard and become the final boss of the series.
The three eyed girl sanji is going to marry was adopted by big mom her real mom is the 3 eyed rabbit goddess who is also carrots mom as well lol.
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Her father was framed and we're still trying to find out who did it.
Poor Roger.
gol d roger ate the rabbit fruit it was the world govt/marines that framed him this would make carrot a member of the D clan like luffy also she will replace sanji as the cook on the crew and all of her food will be carrot based lol.
What's the thaig about the rabbit ? Where does that come from ?
What's the thaig about the rabbit ? Where does that come from ?
Do you read/watch Naruto?
I have read it. Yes.
I have read it. Yes.
Then I guess it is safe to say that the final villain was a 3-eyed rabbit godness from the moon that was never mentioned until the finale.
@sanji''s_dad:
gol d roger ate the rabbit fruit it was the world govt/marines that framed him this would make carrot a member of the D clan like luffy also she will replace sanji as the cook on the crew and all of her food will be carrot based lol.
It was all fun and games until this was said.
Not even in jest!
My beloved swirly-browed cook will never be replaced.
It was all fun and games until this was said.
Not even in jest!
My beloved swirly-browed cook will never be replaced.
The proof is in the pudding
@Long:
The proof is in the pudding
Well played sir, well played.
what if this brother of sanji we just saw lat chapter will pretend he is the real sanji and everyone returns to wano and leave sanji with big mom forever.:ninja:
Her father was framed and we're still trying to find out who did it.
Poor Roger.
Nice… a Who Framed Roger Rabbit reference.
It was all fun and games until this was said.
Not even in jest!
My beloved swirly-browed cook will never be replaced.
That is why i have been saying in my other posts that she will join the minks crew as the cook her making only carrot related stuff would get old fast in the straw hat crew plus she would go all wererabbit on luffy for biting her carrot lol.
Nice… a Who Framed Roger Rabbit reference.
The opportunity comes along so rarely, I had to take it.
The opportunity comes along so rarely, I had to take it.
You always were weak to temptation. And i had such high hopes for you.
Now i guess i'll have to promote someone else to dictator of AP
You always were weak to temptation. And i had such high hopes for you.
Now i guess i'll have to promote someone else to dictator of AP
What if I force everyone to make Roger Rabbit references?
I can still be a maniacal dictator, Wolfy, just give me a chance.
What if I force everyone to make Roger Rabbit references?
I can still be a maniacal dictator, Wolfy, just give me a chance.
You don't have to have force me to make such references. I can be your alcoholic private detective. muhahaha
What if I force everyone to make Roger Rabbit references?
I can still be a maniacal dictator, Wolfy, just give me a chance.
You don't have to have force me to make such references. I can be your alcoholic private detective. muhahaha
See this shit? He doesn't fear your oppresive regime at all. He's all ha ha let's be friends with Rob.
Did you ever hear someone say ha ha let's hang out with Idi Amin, he's a blast? No you didn't Rob
See this shit? He doesn't fear your oppresive regime at all. He's all ha ha let's be friends with Rob.
Did you ever hear someone say ha ha let's hang out with Idi Amin, he's a blast? No you didn't Rob
Actually Rob was my first friend in these forums, such an inviting sempai.
See this shit? He doesn't fear your oppresive regime at all. He's all ha ha let's be friends with Rob.
Did you ever hear someone say ha ha let's hang out with Idi Amin, he's a blast? No you didn't Rob
Argh, I can't do it anymore, I can't live this lie that I can be maniacal dictator.
You've cut through this charade, Wolfy, damn.
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You don't have to have force me to make such references. I can be your alcoholic private detective. muhahaha
Much appreciated buddy lol
See this shit? He doesn't fear your oppresive regime at all. He's all ha ha let's be friends with Rob.
Did you ever hear someone say ha ha let's hang out with Idi Amin, he's a blast? No you didn't Rob
There's nothing wrong with a small oppressive regime in these here forums….pffft
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Argh, I can't do it anymore, I can't live this lie that I can be maniacal dictator.
You've cut through this charade, Wolfy, damn.
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Much appreciated buddy lol
It's too late… you're in the same boat as ainz ooal gown now...sorry buddy:sad:
New chapter.
Now that's the kind of entrance and design a longterm important character gets.
Shame about the eyebrows.
Yay Jinbe's back.
See you next week.
I hope it doesn't become a Red Wedding.
SHIFT!, ROBBY! ROMANCE DAWN!!!!!
Jinbe…... :wub:
Vivi eating monet s fruit and be the last nakama.