Chapter 802: Zou
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The equation es simple.
http://s7.postimg.org/fau4ko81n/descarga.jpg
Too many similarities:
1-Oars Jr vs Whitebeard Jr
2-Hogback vs Miss Bucking
3-Whitebeard Jr took Moria's position in the Shikibukai (too many coincidences)
4-A long time ago, Moria met a master doctor/surgeon named Miss Bucking. She was a master surgeon capable of rejoining body and dead parts. She became Moria doctor in his ship.
5-Miss Bucking obliged Moria to become Shickibukai so she can "hunt" pirates for money and freedom from the WG.
6-After his defeat with Kaidou and all his crew wipeout Miss Bucking left seeking for another "stronger" pirate to win money and a better crew.
7-Moria left with Absalom and Perona and wanted to "find" another doctor. Miss Bucking told him about Doctor Hogback an old student she had, one of the best she had.
8-Hogback was a doctor and not a pirate. The only way Moria had to take Hogback in his side was to "kill" Cindry. Moria "killed" Cindry and asked him if he wanted to join him and "ressurect" his beloved one.
9-Luffy defeated Moria. He wanted after that, not to create the biggest zombie army, but to take the best corpses available of the strongest pirates.
10-After the War, Moria hide from the WG in the shadows and met again with Miss Bucking.
11- He told her his new "plan". To create the definitive zombie "Whitebeard" in other to destroy Kaidou and WG. He went to the tomb, stole his weapon and found a way to ressurrect him with Miss Bucking ability.
12-Whitebeard Jr was too powerful to be controled by Moria and he was manipulated by Miss Bucking in order to win more money hunting pirates. He's the definitive pirate hunter. Miss Bucking ordered Whitebeard Jr to join Shikibukai so she can freely defeat pirates and do what she wants without having the WG controling her.
13-Ace body was too damaged to be "resurrected" (or maybe not)…
14-Moria will appear or in Blackbeard arc or in Kaidou arc. I prefer Kaidou because he was his supreme rival... HE WANTS REVENGE!
15-After that, Moria will help Luffy to defeat Kaidou and Whitebeard Jr...
Problem: we can see Weevil out in the sun.
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Usopp: "Enough with the Martha Stewart crap!"
the f*ck?
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Not so fun when Whitey's true son kills them all.
Man i actually liked some of those commanders, sad to see 'em go.
Is he his actual son though? I find that highly questionable.
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Usopp: "Enough with the Martha Stewart crap!"
the f*ck?
Mangastream adding unnecessary jokes as usual.
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The equation es simple.
http://s7.postimg.org/fau4ko81n/descarga.jpg
Too many similarities:
1-Oars Jr vs Whitebeard Jr
2-Hogback vs Miss Bucking
3-Whitebeard Jr took Moria's position in the Shikibukai (too many coincidences)
4-A long time ago, Moria met a master doctor/surgeon named Miss Bucking. She was a master surgeon capable of rejoining body and dead parts. She became Moria doctor in his ship.
5-Miss Bucking obliged Moria to become Shickibukai so she can "hunt" pirates for money and freedom from the WG.
6-After his defeat with Kaidou and all his crew wipeout Miss Bucking left seeking for another "stronger" pirate to win money and a better crew.
7-Moria left with Absalom and Perona and wanted to "find" another doctor. Miss Bucking told him about Doctor Hogback an old student she had, one of the best she had.
8-Hogback was a doctor and not a pirate. The only way Moria had to take Hogback in his side was to "kill" Cindry. Moria "killed" Cindry and asked him if he wanted to join him and "ressurect" his beloved one.
9-Luffy defeated Moria. He wanted after that, not to create the biggest zombie army, but to take the best corpses available of the strongest pirates.
10-After the War, Moria hide from the WG in the shadows and met again with Miss Bucking.
11- He told her his new "plan". To create the definitive zombie "Whitebeard" in other to destroy Kaidou and WG. He went to the tomb, stole his weapon and found a way to ressurrect him with Miss Bucking ability.
12-Whitebeard Jr was too powerful to be controled by Moria and he was manipulated by Miss Bucking in order to win more money hunting pirates. He's the definitive pirate hunter. Miss Bucking ordered Whitebeard Jr to join Shikibukai so she can freely defeat pirates and do what she wants without having the WG controling her.
13-Ace body was too damaged to be "resurrected" (or maybe not)…
14-Moria will appear or in Blackbeard arc or in Kaidou arc. I prefer Kaidou because he was his supreme rival... HE WANTS REVENGE!
15-After that, Moria will help Luffy to defeat Kaidou and Whitebeard Jr...
Seems plausable that it has SOMETHING to do with Moria at least. The stitches on Whitebeard Jr seem too zombie-esque to me.
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Mangastream adding unnecessary jokes as usual.
But it's so out of place….there isn't even a Martha Stewart-expy in the world of One Piece!
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On the flip side, this chapter did make me laugh, because of Barty's crew. They're using the hail to get rid of gum on the deck, they call a Granny for navigation advice.....XD
I'm pumped to see what kind of adventures wait on this giant elephant. Holy f**k Oda, your crazy ideas know no bounds.
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LOLL @ Barto's crew, sailing without a navigator and they made it to the New World? Pretty lucky lol makes em seem more like Luffy by how careless they are lol
Weebel/weevil is obviously not WBs son and is being tricked by his other mother who may not be his mother in the 1st place. Excited for him to become an ally.
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Problem: we can see Weevil out in the sun.
Ohh! That kills that theory! Still odd placement for his stitches though…seems like an aweful lot of them too..
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Is he his actual son though? I find that highly questionable.
He certainly kills people for personal slights like his dad.
Nah i just find the narrative where Whitebeard was actually a deadbeat dad all this time to be too funny to pass up.
I'm not going to let stuff like obvious make up ruin that
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The only question is, will Luffy knock the elephant out before or after they get on it.
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Whitebeard's son is so ugly that I'm pretty sure that he's going to go down soon. :D Anyway props to him for marking a connection between Luffy and Marco.
Concept of Zou is too much for my tastes however. I hope there is explaination for this and also that it isn't the thing we saw after TB arc. Wouldn't make sense that the elephand crossed GL. -
The only question is, will Luffy knock the elephant out before or after they get on it.
it survived the harsh reality of the New World for 1000 years, Luffy isn't knocking it out…..
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And Dressrosa wasn't fleshed out? with references to Spain, Italy, their own "animals" like you said with the Fighting fish, their own race(dwarves) and other fauna with Green bit.
?I felt like Dressrosa was at the same time bloated and hollow. Even though the Strawhats spent pretty small amounts of time in each town they went to in Alabasta, you still got a pretty good sense of where everything was in relation to everything else. In Dressrosa they introduced the island as though it had several cities, villages and an expansive countryside. During the birdcage, it just diminished because you lost the sense of what was where and how big it was. If you look at the widescope picture of Dressrosa during the birdcage, it just looks like a Metropol and apart from the Flowerhill it seems like there is nothing except for buildings.
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How does Oda go from the completely epic reveal of Kaido to this stupid, ugly, disappointing excuse for a Shichibukai disgracing Whitebeard's good name?
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How does Oda go from the completely epic reveal of Kaido to this stupid, ugly, disappointing excuse for a Shichibukai disgracing Whitebeard's good name?
His design might not look like much, but a 480M frozen bounty and an endorsement of strength from Borsalino is nothing to be sniffed at.
Also, I already enjoy his antics.
Give him some time.
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Oh, just remembered the panel where Zoro asks Barty to throw up some barriers, and he's like "b-but Grammy says it's a sin to defy the will of nature…." Ha! This woman sounds awesome!
How does Oda go from the completely epic reveal of Kaido to this stupid, ugly, disappointing excuse for a Shichibukai disgracing Whitebeard's good name?
Relevant avatar.
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it survived the harsh reality of the New World for 1000 years, Luffy isn't knocking it out…..
You need to lighten up.
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His design might not look like much, but a 480M frozen bounty and an endorsement of strength from Borsalino is nothing to be sniffed at.
Also, I already enjoy his antics.
Give him some time.
People seem to easily forget how bland and "fodder-like" both Roger and Teach designs are.
Yeah, cool looking characters are usually important and strong, it doesn't mean an ugly one that looks nothing special is fodder… this is one of the best things in OP.
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His design might not look like much, but a 480M frozen bounty and an endorsement of strength from Borsalino is nothing to be sniffed at.
Also, I already enjoy his antics.
Give him some time.
Tell me about, I almost laughed out loud when he thought the picture of WB was a mirror. So dumb, lol.
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How does Oda go from the completely epic reveal of Kaido to this stupid, ugly, disappointing excuse for a Shichibukai disgracing Whitebeard's good name?
Maybe he's pathetic on purpose. Maybe he'll come after Luffy (like he said he would) and it won't even be a real fight. Luffy will just One-Hit K.O. him or something.
I don't know what would be the point in that but…. well, Oda sorta did gain my trust over the last 12 years. I'm sure this thing about Whitebeard Jr. will turn out fine. -
Upon re-reading the chapter a few times now… the fangasming of a new One Piece chapter has settled a bit so I can be a bit less baias.
Uhm...so....yeah...that was a chapter....how about that? I'm kind of mixed on it as a whole.
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480 millions was the highest known bounty a warlord ever had before Law got his bumped right?
And almost as much as Enel would have had, had he been a regular pirate.
And that's not even factoring in all of these new pirate crews he's slain. Dude must be a total beast
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So wait, Gambeer?
Not that I'm complaining. Everything is better with beer.
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We also have Captain Jack running around too, so we may see him and Weeble on Zou. Although, this gives me little garden vibes.
I expect Weeble to be hilariously strong.
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People seem to easily forget how bland and "fodder-like" both Roger and Teach designs are.
I don't think Roger quite falls into that category, but Teach is the perfect example.
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Yeah, cool looking characters are usually important and strong, it doesn't mean an ugly one that looks nothing special is fodder… this is one of the best things in OP.
I don't think the guy was even really worrying about how strong Weevil is going to be, just how he looks.
I think everyone had the expectation that the 7th Shichibukai would be a stone cold killer, from what we've heard in connection with him and Z.
I'm totally fine with the goofy design though, it really is very One Piece.
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Tell me about, I almost laughed out loud when he thought the picture of WB was a mirror. So dumb, lol.
Lol yeah his whole thing about look how white I am/even my beard is white is the one that got me.
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480 millions was the highest known bounty a warlord ever had before Law got his bumped right?
Indeed it was.
And almost as much as Enel would have had, had he been a regular pirate.
Gots ta loves the Kami.
And that's not even factoring in all of these new pirate crews he's slain. Dude must be a total beast
When Borsalino gives an assessment of someone's strength and doesn't include the word "scaaaarryyyy~" then you know things just got very real.
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Obviously he is ridiculously strong, he wouldn't be a Shichibukai, and a solo one at that if he wasn't. The guy is going around slaying all the Whitebeard pirates by himself and looks like they hardly touch him if we assume those scars and stitching aren't recent.
I'm just mad about his appearance and "character."
I say feed him to Kaido.
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i knew weevil remember me someone..or something
at least from behind
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I like how we have Edward Weeble acting in the same light as Demalo Black albeit he actually has a reputation and strength to back up his supposed lies.
And lol, classic Kizaru nonchalantly clipping his nails whilst talking about an individual wreaking havoc slaughtering well known crews using strength matching a young Whitebeard in his prime.
And Zou looks quite interesting indeed. I can not wait to see who the foes are for this arc.
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i knew weevil remember me someone..or something
at least from behind
Me 2, instantly. Nobody can convince me that Oda wasn't inspired by Gengar at least a little.
A pokemon is more badass than Whitebeard's son, though. Not sure how to feel about that.
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I started cheering when I saw the island on the elephant's back. Just fucking awesome.
I love how pitiful Bartolomeo's cew is I really hope Grammy is his actual Grandmother.
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Is it just me or did Weevle take down Squard in this chapter?
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Indeed it was.
When Borsalino gives an assessment of someone's strength and doesn't include the word "scaaaarryyyy~" then you know things just got very real.
And like fourth highest of all-time. And to reiterate, this is his frozen bounty.
The list of people who have/had these kind of active bounties include Law, Kidd, Luffy, Ace, and Jinbei.
And people with a couple of hundred million less include DD, Kuma, Apoo, Hawkins and Moriah. Just let that sink in.
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A pokemon is more badass than Whitebeard's son, though. Not sure how to feel about that.
Well, it's too soon to say he's not a good character. HE didn't impressed me neither. Nor the elephant and the design of Zou was, lets say, great. But it's just the beginning.
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Is it just me or did Weevle take down Squard in this chapter?
O.o Where did you see Squard? He didn't take down Squard (unless he did offscreen) but he did defeat A.O. another one of Whitebeard's allies, given the scene of them laying defeated.
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Wow, given the opinions on our new Shichibukai, I'm guessing I'm the only oddball who is fond of Weeble's design? lol -
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Problem: we can see Weevil out in the sun.
War summit, Moria summoned zombies with no problem with the sun. Maybe Miss Bucking has a way to give more endurance to the corpses with the sun.
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War summit, Moria summoned zombies with no problem with the sun. Maybe Miss Bucking has a way to give more endurance to the corpses with the sun.
Uh. If im not mistaken, the sun only affected those that had their shadows stolen….they disintegrated....
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Squardo, white bay and little oars we are getting to see directly. Maybe even monkey and his Doma.
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This chapter was hilarious.
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Problem: we can see Weevil out in the sun.
And? The Zombies aren't weakened by the sun. The people loosing their shadows get desintegrated by the sun.
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I'd like for the giant elephant to just be that, a giant elephant
I mean I get it, almost all bizarre and odd things originate from some devil fruit, except for some odd exceptions like Poseidon, but it would be cool if there was actually a giant 1000 years old elephant
And I already like Whitebeard's 'son', it's designs like these that make me appreciate One Piece a little more than some other manga, not always catering to some ideal of a badass character and just busting out the silly stuff
Edit: btw, since people talk about it, what would hinder Moria or anybody else to take the bodies of Ace and Whitebeard. Is there always some strong guy standing guard or what? They would make the strongest possible zombies. -
And? The Zombies aren't weakened by the sun. The people loosing their shadows get desintegrated by the sun.
Yea and you can't "desintegrate" someone whose body is buried under the ground. You will have to exhume Whitebeard body.
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What are the possibilities of Zou and those shadows at the end of Thriller Bark being one and the same?
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What I am excited about are the prospects of what this elephant knows; we all know the saying "An Elephant never forgets." Being over 1000 years old, the Zou Elephant must have some valuable information, especially about the Void Century. Luckly we have Chopper to translate for us.
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The equation es simple.
http://s7.postimg.org/fau4ko81n/descarga.jpg
Too many similarities:
1-Oars Jr vs Whitebeard Jr
2-Hogback vs Miss Bucking
3-Whitebeard Jr took Moria's position in the Shikibukai (too many coincidences)
4-A long time ago, Moria met a master doctor/surgeon named Miss Bucking. She was a master surgeon capable of rejoining body and dead parts. She became Moria doctor in his ship.
5-Miss Bucking obliged Moria to become Shickibukai so she can "hunt" pirates for money and freedom from the WG.
6-After his defeat with Kaidou and all his crew wipeout Miss Bucking left seeking for another "stronger" pirate to win money and a better crew.
7-Moria left with Absalom and Perona and wanted to "find" another doctor. Miss Bucking told him about Doctor Hogback an old student she had, one of the best she had.
8-Hogback was a doctor and not a pirate. The only way Moria had to take Hogback in his side was to "kill" Cindry. Moria "killed" Cindry and asked him if he wanted to join him and "ressurect" his beloved one.
9-Luffy defeated Moria. He wanted after that, not to create the biggest zombie army, but to take the best corpses available of the strongest pirates.
10-After the War, Moria hide from the WG in the shadows and met again with Miss Bucking.
11- He told her his new "plan". To create the definitive zombie "Whitebeard" in other to destroy Kaidou and WG. He went to the tomb, stole his weapon and found a way to ressurrect him with Miss Bucking ability.
12-Whitebeard Jr was too powerful to be controled by Moria and he was manipulated by Miss Bucking in order to win more money hunting pirates. He's the definitive pirate hunter. Miss Bucking ordered Whitebeard Jr to join Shikibukai so she can freely defeat pirates and do what she wants without having the WG controling her.
13-Ace body was too damaged to be "resurrected" (or maybe not)…
14-Moria will appear or in Blackbeard arc or in Kaidou arc. I prefer Kaidou because he was his supreme rival... HE WANTS REVENGE!
15-After that, Moria will help Luffy to defeat Kaidou and Whitebeard Jr...
We've already seen the tomb post-timeskip. It was not vandalized and the weapon is still there.
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I was hoping that the shichibukais' roles were mostly phased out as "allies" or former enemies of the SHs, and hoping for more of a focus on emperors/marine admirals. Hopefully this new fake son of Whitebeard will not be more than just a 'Duval' encounter where he gets beaten and then becomes an asset (albeit more important than Duval) of the SHs. The fact that he is claimed to be so strong may cause him to be quite important for the story, which I don't really know how I feel about.
If it means that Marco & crew gets reintroduced then I am all for it, but if it means that the encounter with Kaidou gets heavily delayed then I am going to be a bit sad. -
I really enjoyed the crew interactions and the adventure and world-building stuff this chapter. The series has been neglecting it's adventure part quite a bit, those sections have been very quick these past few arcs. I hope the story dedicates some time to exploring the place more.
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Weeble aka eggman from sonic on steroids has a horrible character design. I wonder what his df could be.