Uuhh we're giving "chances" and potentiality" to join to characters by simply existing.
Bobbin and Three Eyed Girl have the same chances then. At least at this point.
And in the long run Bobbin's leaving her behind and with zero chances:ninja:
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I was referring more to the "It's an attempt to prove superiority over the movie, to mount it and conquer it, to dominate it….There's a refusal to submit to the world of the film, and a desire to outsmart it at every turn." part.
That's a kind of insecurity where someone thinks they have to dominate and "one up" everything. That's deconstructing for the wrong reason.
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With all this talk of how Viola could join, the question that always befuddles me is why you would want her to join. I know theres subjective opinions and all that, but are there seriously anyone that sees Viola and goes "YES! What a character! So entertaining, so unique, so memorable! What a dynamic personality, what an interesting backstory, I can't wait to see this amazingly entertaining person tag along for the next 500 chapters! Can't get enough of that Viola!"
I honestly don't get it.Its less a question of wanting than it is timing and logistics. We're beyond the halfway point in the series. If anyone joins its going to be sooner rather than 3/4ths of the way through the series. Its the start of the final sea which also means the crew should be finalized soon. Jinbe has the benfit of being with Luffy for 3 arcs which allows him to join later but anyone new will join soon.
We don't have a lot of screentime for Viola but the next few chapters will make up for that. I really doubt she's staying for a variety of reasons
1. Because she said so. She told Sanji already that she has no intention of staying.
2. She is a pirate and executive officer of a soon to be ex-warlord. She will be wanted by the World Government.
3. She did not say goodbye to Sanji. Whether or not you want her to join that character interaction has been left unconcluded.
4. She wouldn't let herself stay even if she wanted to. She's clearly risking her life fighting Doflamingo as her own punishment for assissting him. She sees herself as rhe "former" princess of Dressrosa. In her eyes she betrayed her country and her family.Whether you think she'll join or not its almost certain that she'll be here for the next arc. In all likelihood Sanji has been captured and I wouldn't put it past Oda for a gag of the prince being rescued by the princess.
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Its less a question of wanting than it is timing and logistics. We're beyond the halfway point in the series. If anyone joins its going to be sooner rather than 3/4ths of the way through the series. Its the start of the final sea which also means the crew should be finalized soon. Jinbe has the benfit of being with Luffy for 3 arcs which allows him to join later but anyone new will join soon.
Yeah, the crew will probably be finalized within the next few years.
But that doesn't mean people should jump on every new character in a desperate attempt to bring them on board due to time constraints. It should be based on their characterization, design, and uniqueness to the overall story. How does Viola fit into those characteristics?
We don't have a lot of screentime for Viola but the next few chapters will make up for that. I really doubt she's staying for a variety of reasons
"A few chapters" doesn't make up for major uninvolvement in an arc that will last nearly 100 chapters and be the character's introduction arc. We certainly had plenty of screentime for every other Straw Hat and a look into their dreams/motivations for the entirety of the arc they were introduced in (besides Robin, the one true red herring in new crewmembers, but even she had ample screentime in her antagonist role).
1. Because she said so. She told Sanji already that she has no intention of staying.
Yes, before she realized that the Straw Hat crew had a chance of actually defeating Doflamingo.
And even if she still has lingering thoughts, it'll be resolved by the country's populace/Riku/Rebecca telling her that they don't blame her for her actions.
2. She is a pirate and executive officer of a soon to be ex-warlord. She will be wanted by the World Government.
Again, there is no basis for this. We have no knowledge that the World Government has knowledge of her status as a Donquixote Family member.
And even if they do, it will easily be overlooked by the World Government either via Fujitora, who as an Admiral has the ability to cover stuff like that up, or the World Government's way of "apologizing" to the Riku Family for the hardships they allowed to happen to them (whether by granting amnesty for her "crimes", or being convinced that she was forced to work for a pirate, like Coby). Oda is not going to tear apart a recently reunited family to create drama like that.
3. She did not say goodbye to Sanji. Whether or not you want her to join that character interaction has been left unconcluded.
While this is true, it's easily resolvable by her telling one of the Straw Hats on Dressrosa to give Sanji her gratitude for his earlier actions. She doesn't need to leave Dressrosa for this plot point to be resolved.
4. She wouldn't let herself stay even if she wanted to. She's clearly risking her life fighting Doflamingo as her own punishment for assissting him. She sees herself as rhe "former" princess of Dressrosa. In her eyes she betrayed her country and her family.
While that may be what she thinks, it's highly different from what Oda has portrayed the entire arc. We've been meant to see her in a positive light throughout the arc for her actions, not the other way around. This has been depicted through Riku and other characters too.
Whether you think she'll join or not its almost certain that she'll be here for the next arc. In all likelihood Sanji has been captured and I wouldn't put it past Oda for a gag of the prince being rescued by the princess.
It's more certain that she'll stay and help her family rebuild their kingdom. That's what she's been working at for the past ten years and are where her ties lie. Sanji's potential rescue really shouldn't be tied to her in that way (and really, I don't expect him or any of the Straw Hats to be kidnapped anyways, but that's a less certain thing to speculate about).
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As for the first point, I wanted to point out that's how I'm feeling Kinemon's been like right now, that he's ending up being a Paulie in that he looked promising at first but will eventually fade more and more into the background as time goes on. Given he should have a role in Wano he's probably going to get focus again hence the Vivi/Drum parallel that's been made…but I dunno. He should play a big part in the backstory, and we still need to figure out the name of his fruit...but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if he's just a constant non-presence and other characters get the spotlight.
The second part I bolded is to emphasize that at least in Japan, most people agree with that statement, or at least don't like him enough to vote for him in the popularity poll. Last I recall he didn't even make top 100 (though I think he was ranked between 100-110). I don't know how much his story is affected by polls and popularity, but maybe Kinemon's role is being or would be reduced accordingly. Wano could be something completely different than expected. At the very least, the fact that Kanjuro got two redesigns shows that not everything is set in stone just yet for the Wano story and things can certainly change given the purposeful vagueness of it all.
As for the last part, I agree with Daz that on some level, the character being interesting should matter. I personally backed Kinemon back in the day because I found him interesting, but that's from a "we have to follow this character for the rest of the series so we should be following characters we like" instead of how I think Daz correctly assumed people here that theorize in the thread are treating it. I think it's fair to say that a main character should be one that stands out, because that's what makes the person worth being a main character. It's just boringness is subjective, something I'll have to concede with Jinbe.
And since it was brought up, my post from about 3 years ago. There's still quite a bit I'd probably change since then (the whole dreams "not mattering", Momo needing to join especially since we found out his dream is to be a Shogun and the other stuff we've found out about him, and I was wrong and forgot Mr. 2 was also hit with Nami's fist of love, but a lot holds up.
I'd probably also add Kinemon's disguises as some my favorite moments from Dressrosa too. But he definitely has been purely in the background, even though we did just learn he uses haki last chapter. And given the vastly different scenarios the crew can be in, having someone that can make disguises for the crew that will help them blend in would be beneficial in a non-broken way.
Reading your long post inspired me to post what I wrote on another thread about Kinemon. I was one of the only people suggesting Kinemon as a potential nakama in the forum I was on so basically said everything you just said + more.
I have some of the stuff I wrote saved on my computer so I will just post it in the spoiler below if you feel like reading it. I wrote most of this around 2012 but I feel it is still relevant today.
Chemistry with the crew. SHP as a Family.
! Kinemon is doing something that happens very rarely: He's fighting on the same level with the Strawhats as an ally, something that I believe every male strawhat that has joined has done. Most characters don't get hit in a playful manner by the straw hat crew. so far Nami and Sanji have hit Kinemon like they have hit Luffy or some of the other straw hat members. I think that they usually don't hit people in this manner and could be something that hints that Kinemon is a future crew member
! People like Brook, and Franky were shown fighting along side the straw hats as if they were already crew members. It is important to notice that other people who are indebted do not get meaningful interactions with the crew. Wiper fought independently, Paulie and and Franky Family were working and helping the straw hats in their own separate groups.
! After the main battles are over Luffy usually comes to a conclusion if he wants the person to join or not. for example, the Franky Family came to ask Luffy if they would take Franky with them because of his bounty, and Luffy said he had already decided to ask Franky to join him but he won't force him to. Notice when Luffy's decided someone is joining they do eventually join…especially after the person has fought with the group as if he was a straw hat member.
! Since kinemon is older and has a son he could be the Great-Uncle, grandfathers's younger brother, and Momo being his son would be Brook's nephew, Franky/Robin's cousin and Luffy's second cousin.How many Nakama will there be?
! I say 2 nakama are the minimum because Luffy said he wants at least 10 nakama in the beginning. Brook was number 8 so there would be at least 2 more spots left. Jinbe would be one and perhaps a female would be the second.
! If there will be more than two joining I would say the Max would be 4 because there have not been more then 4 that have joined in one part of the story. East Blue 4, Paradise 4, and New World 4. Even if you ignore the segments and look at the space on Thousand Sunny..the ship can hold a finite amount of people.There were some people who were saying that Kinemon can't join because he is just another swordsmen. I thought that it wasn't a good reason. I tried breaking down Kinemon's potential fighting style by the way Oda drew him fighting along side Zoro/Brook.
! I have a feeling Kinemon's sword style is a mix between Tamiya-ryu, and Muso Jikiden Eishin-ryu.
! Tamiya-ryu, makes use of a sword with a slightly longer hilt. A longer hilt gives the sword greater stability and power. When you stand in the high stance, Jodan-no-kamae, your opponent will have a tendency to look at the raised sword blade, and they will not notice foot movement. Tamiya-ryu requires large, precise movements.
! Muso Jikiden Eishin-ryu focuses on iaido. Iaido, derived from iaijutsu, develops the samurai skill of drawing the sword and cutting in the same movement, rather than cutting from a traditional stance after already having drawn the sword. Iaido aims to cultivate spiritual harmony in addition to the battlefield skill of iaijutsu. Eishin-ryu contains sitting techniques, standing techniques and techniques for use against multiple opponents, as well as for use on terrain. This technique is used when he draws his sword and cuts fire at the same time.
! Tamiya-ryu seems closest to how Kinemon fights. He uses two or one sword and he makes large, precise (and deadly strikes).
! People can not say conclusively that Kinemon is too similar to Zoro. From the little I have seen from Kinemon he has shown he is different enough. There are eight Traditional Sword Fighting Styles for a Samurai, and I have only mentioned two. Samurai didn't only use swords they used other weapons like a spear, or even a fan. There is some potential that Kinemon is capable of using other weapons.
! After a quick Google search here is a list of different weapons samurai use.
! Tachi, Tanto, Wakazashi, Katana, Nodachi, Tetsubo, Yari, Nagamaki, Naginata, Hankyu, Daikyu, Matchlock Arquebus and Kusarigama, and Otsuchi Manto and the yumi which is basicly like a bow and arrow but much bigger the bow is 7 feet long.
Many were very skilled in the use of the Tessan, or fan. They were always able to carry that, even if swords had to be left at the door of the castle or home, Takeda Shingen defended himself against several opponents with only a Tessen.
! We have barely seen what Kinemon can do. He is not Zoro who posibily is limited to only using swords, or Brook who uses fencing/music/ice, Kinemon is Samurai/Sorcerer. lol
I always felt like Wano's closed door policy was a reflection of Japan's own samurai history and how Japan kept itself separate from the world for so many years.
! This is pretty much what I'm anticipating from Wano: the fact that Kinemon speaks so mysteriously of devil fruits implies they're not well acknowledged there, and someone will probably try to penetrate their culture with this technology and force them to realize how unprepared they are to defend themselves without help. Perhaps SAD and Kinemon/Momo's presence is a hint towards this development.
! As long as Momo can show he isn't a weak weak little weakling..he should be able to join when Kinemon joins.
! Luffy has his ambitions and his crew has theirs. He will never knock someone down if they show they have a dream. Momo wants to accomplish something and clearly has a strong enough will to accomplish this goal since he was willing to leave his country.
! All I want for now is people to stop saying Kinemon won't join because he is another swordsmen. He might travel with Luffy and decide to not join….but him being a swordsmen is not a reason for him to not join.Kinemon's devil fruit name. I had some help from someone who can read Japanese.
! His chances on having a mythical fruit are very low. The fire theme comes from the nickname " 狐火" Kitsunebi "fire fox" indeed.
! But his actual complete name and nickname has more to do with clothes
! "錦えもん" is kinemon, more like Kin-emon
! 錦 Kin translates Fine dress, ironically also translates honors
! えもん Emon translates clothes, dress, drapery. Mr Oda wrote it without the actual kanjis.
! These are the kanjis for Emon/clothes 衣紋.
! So i conclude that he is a paramecia, with a fire theme because of his katana that cuts fire and also because of his fox theme. And his "fox disguising nature" (also japanese folklore) is part of his character newly due to his devil fruit.
Another fun fact is that his name just consist of kanji and hiragana. No katakana, that's scarse in this manga, almost everyone in one piece has some katakana in their names. I say it's because of his traditional japanese/Wano country/samurai reference. He shares that fact with sentoumaru who have his name in just kanji. I want to see the others samurai.
! Kinemon's devil fruit is probably called Fuku Fuku no mi.Ace's visit to Wano.
! The chance of Kinemon/Momo meeting Ace previously on Wano might be low…depends on how big Wano is, population size, and how long Ace stayed at Wano..etc But I just wanted to point out the slim chance of them meeting. Since Ace did mention that he went to Wano and learned how to make Straw Hats in Chapter 555 "Oars and his Hat" page 8.
! If someone is going to join I would want them to have met Ace in the past. All of the crew members have either met Ace or were there for Luffy during his time of grief. If a person joins not knowing who Ace is, and what Luffy went through then it just feels like the person has missed out on a big turning point in Luffy's life.
! Jinbe being the number one candidate right now has met Ace in the past, and was there for Luffy during his time of grief more so than anyone else.
! Even if Kinemon just fought Ace and they both had some level of respect for each other that would be good enough. lolKin is powerful, complements the powers of the other swordsmen on the crew (wind and Ice) now he adds fire. He's already on the SHs side like many SHs were when they joined. That he actually fits with the SHs personality wise and is already having a great time with them. Also, he already has Luffy's, Sanji's, Zoro's & Brook's approval.
Swordsmanship is a prominent fighting style in the world of one piece pirates, and his style is unique enough.
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Its less a question of wanting than it is timing and logistics. We're beyond the halfway point in the series. If anyone joins its going to be sooner rather than 3/4ths of the way through the series. Its the start of the final sea which also means the crew should be finalized soon. Jinbe has the benfit of being with Luffy for 3 arcs which allows him to join later but anyone new will join soon.
We don't have a lot of screentime for Viola but the next few chapters will make up for that. I really doubt she's staying for a variety of reasons
1. Because she said so. She told Sanji already that she has no intention of staying.
2. She is a pirate and executive officer of a soon to be ex-warlord. She will be wanted by the World Government.
3. She did not say goodbye to Sanji. Whether or not you want her to join that character interaction has been left unconcluded.
4. She wouldn't let herself stay even if she wanted to. She's clearly risking her life fighting Doflamingo as her own punishment for assissting him. She sees herself as rhe "former" princess of Dressrosa. In her eyes she betrayed her country and her family.Whether you think she'll join or not its almost certain that she'll be here for the next arc. In all likelihood Sanji has been captured and I wouldn't put it past Oda for a gag of the prince being rescued by the princess.
1. Debunked already, a statement someone completely ripped out of context. It was a response of Viola to Sanji not understanding why she didn't want to come to safety to the docks with him, so they could meet up with Nami, Chopper and Brook and stay safe on the Sunny. She didn't want to meet there because she could see marines at the docks with her clairvoyance. Sanji asked her if she would stay then, in which she replies no, because she just wants to meet up somewhere else than the docks. Something that gets interrupted when the Sunny is under attack. Again, a single text balloon completely taken out of context.
2. Vivi was a pirate too under a soon to be ex-warlord. She just returned to being a princess without any problems. Viola doesn't seem to have a wanted poster either as far as I know.
3. That has not ever mattered in One Piece as of yet. Whether or not you want to have that character interaction is a different matter.
4. Only a better reason for her to stay, so she can redeem herself by helping build up the country again. Not go on an adventure and have fun. Joining a crew where she is the only one without a dream/goal. -
I don't think Violet or Rebecca have shown any interest in wanting to Join Luffy on his adventures outside of DR. Both of them have just reunited with their family members. Rikku was out there somewhere and Kyros was trying to be the best father figure he could as a toy solider. Now that DD's rule is about to end they would probably like to stay together as a family instead of joining a different pirate crew.
Wicca promised Zoro that she would take him to the Ocean/Thousand Sunny…would be nice if she actually kept that promise and went with the crew. I am going to miss her if she doesn't tag along. Too bad she was put into the background with the other dwarf as the story progressed. She became part of the dwarf crowd.
Do we know what happened to Ace's crew?
Roger had two cabin boys. Buggy became a Warlord and Shanks became one of the Emperors. If Luffy gets a Cabin boy I could Imagine it being Momo. Since he wants to become Shogun of all of Wano Country that sounds pretty impressive. We were also told that Wano Country stands alone..and is independent from Pirates/Marines/WG. I also like the fact that Momo and Chopper are the same height and both have a Zoan devil fruit. Chopper being a reindeer originally ate the Human Zoan df...and Momo ate a man made(Vegapunk made) Mythical Zoan df. There could potentially be some kind of animosity between Samurai and Dragons. Kin sounded like he had personal beef with dragons.
I also don't think that Kinemon and Momo are related by blood. Wouldn't be the first time someone who isn't blood related created that kind of bond.
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I would want to see Ceasar for the next 500 chapters.
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I would want to see Ceasar for the next 500 chapters.
Ceasar? He's so annoying lol and not very easy on the eyes.
He's got that punch-able face, just like Enel has. :ninja:
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Its less a question of wanting than it is timing and logistics. We're beyond the halfway point in the series. If anyone joins its going to be sooner rather than 3/4ths of the way through the series. Its the start of the final sea which also means the crew should be finalized soon. Jinbe has the benfit of being with Luffy for 3 arcs which allows him to join later but anyone new will join soon.
We don't have a lot of screentime for Viola but the next few chapters will make up for that. I really doubt she's staying for a variety of reasons
1. Because she said so. She told Sanji already that she has no intention of staying.
2. She is a pirate and executive officer of a soon to be ex-warlord. She will be wanted by the World Government.
3. She did not say goodbye to Sanji. Whether or not you want her to join that character interaction has been left unconcluded.
4. She wouldn't let herself stay even if she wanted to. She's clearly risking her life fighting Doflamingo as her own punishment for assissting him. She sees herself as rhe "former" princess of Dressrosa. In her eyes she betrayed her country and her family.Whether you think she'll join or not its almost certain that she'll be here for the next arc. In all likelihood Sanji has been captured and I wouldn't put it past Oda for a gag of the prince being rescued by the princess.
Please read the previous pages and arguments and how this crappy theory has already been destroyed for future references .
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Ceasar? He's so annoying lol and not very easy on the eyes.
He's got that punch-able face, just like Enel has. :ninja:
I dunno, I always liked his design lol
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I dunno, I always liked his design lol
Shurororo omg I would suffocate (lol) if I had to hear that over and over.
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I've been a sort of, backline supporter of Kinemon, in that I think he is the strongest candidate because he has a lot of little things that help him, but I still don't think we have a good candidate for strawhat other than people like Barto.
Oda said that characters will join close together, this means:
The next character will join around Jinbe -or-
The characters are joining together, independently. This helps Kinemon/Momonosuke, but isn't quite indicative, just increases the odds of it happening.If Momonosuke can breathe fire, this gives Kinemon a completely uniqe fighting style (pet user/team up) .
There are three important crews that seem to have the most story-line importance, each of them have a crewmate that is a person + animal companion, and they all seem to be building structured around mirroring the strawhats. This would mean if the strawhats were to have one on one fights, they would need a similar character to fight them (Doc Q stronger, bald guy + monkey on shanks, richie mohji on Buggy).
Kinemon fits the numbers theory (dumb, but hey, its a gentle nudge)
He had an interesting introduction (somethin all straw hats receive, but not all characters receive), and has a unique visual design and personality quirks.
He will ultimately have a plot and goal that the Strawhats align with, which means an entire arc may be based around him.So yeah, he's not like, 100%, or even 50% joining, but there's things that allude to it. He's got the best shot, but anyone's shots right now are pretty low.
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I wouldn't mind Kin joining but i feel like increasing the weakling trio with momo would be too annoying. I don't know why it would take 4 or even 5 people to say that they are scared. I get comic relief and everything but they don't need another weakling on the crew considering most believe they are way too weak to take on a yonko. Even if he is the cabin boy, the way he has been treated so far i doubt he would fit that role.
I also doubt anyone from Dressrosa joining there are too many ifs for each person. I would love Barto to join or Cavendish but they have their own crews. Pretty much every other person has a bunch of ifs or something close to those lines.
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can someone post a link of where Oda said that the next 2 crewmates would be right after the other?
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I'm picturing Violet randomly showing up in Law's ship and asking him to join his crew, Perpetuating the Robin/Violet even harder in the series.
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not enough bonney for nakama talk. she is going to join and will probably come back into the story in the next arc. i always thought the strawhats would get an ex marine but it does not look like that is ever going to happen. smoker seemed like a candidate but that would mean tashigi would fall out of the story which isn't good. if he ever has a fallout with the marines then he would probably become a bounty hunter.
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not enough bonney for nakama talk. she is going to join and will probably come back into the story in the next arc. i always thought the strawhats would get an ex marine but it does not look like that is ever going to happen. smoker seemed like a candidate but that would mean tashigi would fall out of the story which isn't good. if he ever has a fallout with the marines then he would probably become a bounty hunter.
Because there is zero reasoning behind that, I don't see enough talk about Yosaku for nakama.
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So, Violet is with Law now, the possibility of her joining the Heart Pirates it is now a thing.
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not enough bonney for nakama talk. she is going to join and will probably come back into the story in the next arc.
Because she's old news.
That beaten horse happened years and years ago, back when she and Zoro was shown on same island… no, the namaka talk for Perona started long before the time-skip. The first cries began during Thriller Bark, came and went, then gained steam when learned Zoro spent the time-skip with Perona. -
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Zoro interacts with Bonney>Bonney becomes a low-possibilities nakama material
Zoro interacts with Perona>Perona becomes an even-lower-possibilites nakama material
Zoro interacts with Wicca>Wicca becomes a Non-existing-possibilities nakama materialthis is a patron already.
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I can't see Bonney joining, personally, but she still has a better chance of joining than any of the characters in the current arc.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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[Reposting some old comments I made(on another site) back when the PH arc was still in progress]
The first episode had a cabin boy and a lookout. These two positions aren't essential but definitely are iconic. Coby was basically a cabin boy or chore boy on Alvida's ship for 2 years. Coby already looked like he was pretty young when he met Luffy. Most kids are weak so crews don't bother having cabin boys unless they use them like a slave. There are exceptions like Shanks, and Buggy who were cabin boys, and now we are seeing few more kids. For example, Law, Baby 5, Buffalo, Dellinger, and Sugar(assuming she joined around the age she looks).
Some kids have sudden growth spurts latter on, just look at Coby. People from the Samurai Country don't seem to know much about devil fruits. Kinemon doesn't even know what his devil fruit is called, all he knows is he ate a strange fruit. He classifies everything unusual as ninjitsu or sorcery, so I am pretty sure his son wouldn't know anything about his abilities either. In Momo's case, most people probably don't know much about his abilities, since this is the first case we have seen where someone ate a man made devil fruit.
Look at how the arcs were spaced out as the crew members joined.
East Blue it was back to back.
Romance Dawn/Coby
Captian Morgan arc = Zoro
Orange Town/Buggy's arc(Nami)
Syrup Village(Usopp)
Baratie arc = Sanji
Arlong Park arc = Nami (set up for Fishmen Island)Paradise it was a bit spaced out.
Reverse Mountain arc/Laboon mini arc(Brook's setup)
Whiskey Peak mini arc (Robin meets Luffy and the crew)
Little Garden arc (set up for Elbaf) Drum Island arc = Chopper
Alabasta/Croc's arc(Robin)
Jaya/Norland/Skypiea arcs (Black Beard is introduced. Set up for Dressrosa)
Foxy mini arc (Aokiji is introduced. Set up for Robin's rescue arc)
Water 7/Enies Lobby/CP9 arcs = Robin and Usopp rejoin + Franky
Thriller Bark = BrookAfter Brook we have had
Flying fish rider mini arc (allies gained who help out in next arc)
Shabondy Park (Introduced the supernovas, Rayleigh, Kizaru..Celestial Dragons..Race list..etc)
Amazon Lily (Boa Hancock introduced and she starts helping Luffy out)
Impel Down(Jinbe meets Luffy)
Marine Ford (Big Event..Luffy gains more allies)
2year timeskip
Fishman Island(Set up for Jinbe)
Punk Hazard**(Kinemon/Momo introduced)**
Dressrosa (A ton of New Characters are introduced. Luffy gains more allies) Soon Luffy will take on an Emperor so him gathering allies makes sense.I think whoever the female nakama is..will be involved in Jinbe's arc with Big Mam. We could potentially meet the next female on Zou or maybe it is someone who was already introduced?
It would be smart if Oda doesn't delay the introduction of future SH nakama. I think the New World will have a faster introduction of future nakama and later these introduced characters will join. If you think about it Jinbe, Kinemon, Momo becoming nakama will make it easier for Oda to have the crew completed before Luffy gets through half of the New World. Roger had his crew completed after he entered the New World.
Before Big Mam's arc is done Luffy should have his crew completed. This doesn't seem far away seeing how the plot build up is going. It could be possible that the crew gets completed by the end of Wano Country. Jinbe is already signed up to join. Now the fans just expect a female to join sooner or later. If Oda wants he can have a deeper story/flashback tied with Kinemon/Momo during Wano Country and have them join.
We need a different type of female. Not another Nami or Robin.. and I don't think I am asking for much from Oda. If he can create a character like Franky who pushes the envelope of quirkiness then he should be able to create a female character who completes the female trio without overlapping too much with Nami/Robin.
I wouldn't mind Kin joining but i feel like increasing the weakling trio with momo would be too annoying. I don't know why it would take 4 or even 5 people to say that they are scared. I get comic relief and everything but they don't need another weakling on the crew considering most believe they are way too weak to take on a yonko. Even if he is the cabin boy, the way he has been treated so far i doubt he would fit that role.
I also doubt anyone from Dressrosa joining there are too many ifs for each person. I would love Barto to join or Cavendish but they have their own crews. Pretty much every other person has a bunch of ifs or something close to those lines.
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can someone post a link of where Oda said that the next 2 crewmates would be right after the other?
Oda's interview with ChinaTimes, translated.
http://opforum.net/showthread.php?tid=6501In the second paragraph: Later, he said "After 17 years, after more and more new characters being created in the story, I couldn't stop inspiration coming into my head. I think I can continue drawing for another decade." - He also says that more members will join the Straw Hats! "And there will be new nakama, they will show up successively."
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It's possible that maybe a character introduced this arc could continue into the next arc and join later but I can't really think of anyone.
Viola seemed a possible darkhorse candidate but considering that she didn't even get a flashback this chapter, she's doomed to just be underutilized. She's the only one from this arc that stands out as having a reason to leave and travel with the Straw Hats because the loss of her immunity and shame for working under Doflamingo. That said I still think there's a possibility she'll at least sail temporarily with the Straw Hats to rescue Sanji and the remaining. I think Oda might do a gag where the princess Viola rescues the prince Sanji from the evil Big Mom.
Everyone else is just going to stay on Dressrosa or be an ally. Barto is extremely popular, so I wonder if Oda's plans for him have changed, although he'll just end up an ally.
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I would like to point out..that the Concepts in One Piece Green: Secret Pieces show the Blackbeard Pirates have appearances and names different from their finished counterparts. Marshall D. Teach was originally named Everysong D. Teach. Van Auger was originally named Van Wagot. Jesus Burgess was originally named Lapaix Jesus. Vasco Shot had more of a Viking-like appearance and was named Basurero Shot. Catarina Devon was shown to be more beautiful in appearance. Three original characters, a jester-like man named King Joker, a man named Last Lion, and a fox-like woman named Kitsune was to be a member, but this idea was scrapped and King Joker's appearance passed on to Vasco Shot.
Source: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Blackbeard_Pirates
I think that Oda considering a fox-like women to be added into Blackbeard pirates could hint that he has considered someone like Kin'emon to join Luffy's crew..he also has a Kitsune theme. I don't think that is a coincidence.
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I think the next crewmate is going to be Violet or Rebecca.
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The Strawhats are going to have only one more nakama. And he's not joining in this arc. He's obviously Kuzan.
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The Strawhats are going to have only one more nakama. And he's not joining in this arc. He's obviously Kuzan.
(Was this post groundless enough for this thread's stardards? Oh well, I'll get there some day.)Best name on this forum. I support this theory 100%
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The Strawhats are going to have only one more nakama.
Oda would like a word with you.
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I think the next crewmate is going to be Violet or Rebecca.
Why? These two do not have the necessary criteria to become crew members.
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I can't see Bonney joining, personally, but she still has a better chance of joining than any of the characters in the current arc.
well her crew is gone and she is much less girly than robin and nami which would set her apart. she also has different colored hair. she seems to be very important to the world government for some reason so it would make the strawhats a target. plus she also wants to get even with blackbeard so joining luffy makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah Bonney isn't joining although she has a lot of connections with different characters.
I forgot the theory specifically but from the Wizard of Oz: Eustass Kid is the tin man, Hawkins is the scarecrow, Apoo is the lion, and presumably Bonney is Dorothy. There's also an emerald city referenced once in OP. So she's going to be preoccupied with that Alliance. Also I don't really see any Supernova joining.
I think we just have to wait a little while. If we have any "temporary" members traveling with the Straw Hats this arc then I think they might join.
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Yeah Bonney isn't joining although she has a lot of connections with different characters.
I forgot the theory specifically but from the Wizard of Oz: Eustass Kid is the tin man, Hawkins is the scarecrow, Apoo is the lion, and presumably Bonney is Dorothy. There's also an emerald city referenced once in OP. So she's going to be preoccupied with that Alliance. Also I don't really see any Supernova joining.
I think we just have to wait a little while. If we have any "temporary" members traveling with the Straw Hats this arc then I think they might join.
the strawhats are getting an ex warlord so why not have an ex captain join the crew?
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i've said this hundreds of times before but i'll say it again : i want a physically strong, uniquely designed, funny/stupid women char to join. someone like lola from thiller's bark but stronger. or like dadan. or kokoro. or shakky but with more unique design. or a non-human women char. basically anything but a smart sexy kind of girl like nami/robin.
the men are pretty varied in the crew so the women should too. nami and robin are too similar (yes they do have their own unique personalities, but still).
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the strawhats are getting an ex warlord so why not have an ex captain join the crew?
They're mostly young and on their own journeys.
Most of the Warlords are stationary and not actively pursuing anything. At least in the case of Jinbe, it had more to do with immunity for his crew.Plus if anyone joins they'll be sooner. The Kid-Hawkins-Apoo alliance has just started and it'll be a while until Bonney joins and they do whatever the're planned to do.
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If a Supernova is going to join the crew, then it has to be this guy:
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the strawhats are getting an ex warlord so why not have an ex captain join the crew?
If anything, Bonney is way more likely to join than Viola.
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the strawhats are getting an ex warlord so why not have an ex captain join the crew?
Jimbe? Brook? Usopp? Franky was a boss as well.
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Yeah Bonney isn't joining although she has a lot of connections with different characters.
I forgot the theory specifically but from the Wizard of Oz: Eustass Kid is the tin man, Hawkins is the scarecrow, Apoo is the lion, and presumably Bonney is Dorothy. There's also an emerald city referenced once in OP. So she's going to be preoccupied with that Alliance. Also I don't really see any Supernova joining.
I think we just have to wait a little while. If we have any "temporary" members traveling with the Straw Hats this arc then I think they might join.
That theory was at best flimsy and out of nowhere…
There are about no similarities between Bonney and Dorothy, also, Apoo being the cowardly lion is ridiculous as he has shown nothing but bravery.
Basing who will join on such a theory is even more ridiculous then doing so according to numerology (which at least is popular in asian culture).
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That theory was at best flimsy and out of nowhere…
There are about no similarities between Bonney and Dorothy, also, Apoo being the cowardly lion is ridiculous as he has shown nothing but bravery.
Basing who will join on such a theory is even more ridiculous then doing so according to numerology (which at least is popular in asian culture).
There's nothing that says Oda has to stick with Japanese myths and stories when creating character. Big Mom is clearly inspired by Hansel and Gretel. Kaido inspired by Chinese myths. Not to mention that have only been loosely inspired, its just more of a fun thing he writes into the story.
Also Scratchmen Apoo's epithet is "Roar of the Sea"
So I really don't think its a coincidence those 3 characters are gathered together. And if Bonney joins them in a mission to take down Big Mom… well it's way too far into the story by then.
Kaido is the main yonko of focus right now especially with Kinemon and company temporarily with the crew.
Dealings with Big Mom (and Jinbe joining) will be later.
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We have already seen a Wizard of Oz themed trio, via Kaido's crewmates during the Caribou cover story.
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Kid, Apoo, and Hawkins do not fit that theme. (This was already discussed in this thread.
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I have a question regarding new nakama devil fruit number theory. Does it matter if the name pattern of the fruit is 9292 instead of 2929?
I reserve the right to ignore stupid offers, posts, and messages
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I have a question regarding new nakama devil fruit number theory. Does it matter if the name pattern of the fruit is 9292 instead of 2929?
I'm not familiar with that theory. Please explain it to me.
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Theory is old but I will use volume 59 SBS
D: Odacchi! I noticed an amazing thing!!! It is that if you show the Straw Hat Devil Fruit users in numbers, it will be the numbers from 1~10!!
Luffy→Gomu Gomu (5.6.5.6.)
Chopper→Hito Hito (1.10.1.10)
Robin→Hana Hana (8.7.8.7.)
Brook→Yomi Yomi (4.3.4.3.)(1.3.4.5.6.7.8.10), but there is no (2.9), so is the one who ate the Nikyu Nikyu (2.9.2.9.) no Mi, Bartholomew Kuma, gonna be a Straw Hat next? Please tell me!!! P.N. SHANKUS.LOVE
O: WHAAAAAT?! (shock) Gosh that surprised me! Why was I surprised?! NO COMMENTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! NEXT!!
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I'm dying to know if Kinemon ate the Fuku Fuku fruit (2.9.2.9). It really is the deal-breaker if he's the next member or not.
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Theory is old but I will use volume 59 SBS
D: Odacchi! I noticed an amazing thing!!! It is that if you show the Straw Hat Devil Fruit users in numbers, it will be the numbers from 1~10!!
Luffy→Gomu Gomu (5.6.5.6.)
Chopper→Hito Hito (1.10.1.10)
Robin→Hana Hana (8.7.8.7.)
Brook→Yomi Yomi (4.3.4.3.)(1.3.4.5.6.7.8.10), but there is no (2.9), so is the one who ate the Nikyu Nikyu (2.9.2.9.) no Mi, Bartholomew Kuma, gonna be a Straw Hat next? Please tell me!!! P.N. SHANKUS.LOVE
O: WHAAAAAT?! (shock) Gosh that surprised me! Why was I surprised?! NO COMMENTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! NEXT!!
Woah, I didn't understand that at all. Am I stupid?
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Woah, I didn't understand that at all. Am I stupid?
In Japanese the characters used for the DF names can be converted to number pairs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_wordplay
Since any DF name is that name twice followed by "no mi" to say that is is that "fruit" those number pairs become four alternating numbers. Go = 5, mu = 6 Gomu Gomu= (5.6.5.6.).
Luffy→Gomu Gomu (5.6.5.6.)
Chopper→Hito Hito (1.10.1.10)
Robin→Hana Hana (8.7.8.7.)
Brook→Yomi Yomi (4.3.4.3.)
so we have 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,10
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2, 9
So that is why I am asking if it Does it matter if the name pattern of the fruit is 9292 instead of 2929?I reserve the right to ignore stupid offers, posts, and messages
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Thank you, good sir.
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Alpha2late17 had a nice theory about Jewelry Bonney being Whitebeard's daughter, which would explain why she cried so much when he died.
I have a good feeling about her. I don't know if she'll be a nakama in the future, but I certainly wouldn't mind that.
