@Shobu:
After watching an user using CoO to avoid a beam traveling at light speed, it is not really neccessary to get more speed.
We're talking about Luffy… Should i start saying what the mere shadow of him was able to do in a frozen body?
I'm not sure whether he aim-dodged the beam since lasers move in a straight line and if using CoO helps the user know where an attack will land, it shouldn't be difficult to move slightly before it's fired.
gear 4 could looks like this; luffy knoting himself on turning into a crazy hard bouncing ball, even more powerfull than lead bullets
I'm not sure whether he aim-dodged the beam since lasers move in a straight line and if using CoO helps the user know where an attack will land, it shouldn't be difficult to move slightly before it's fired.
CoO observes the thought. What technique and where it's going to use it are supposedly the questions read by the user. Obviously raw skills are superior but i'm supporting it because has to destroy the birdcage and i only see Luffy giant doing it.
@O:
gear 4 confirmed
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Forgot the last part…
Devil fruit users are like the bad guys of Power Rangers. When they get bigger, they get defeated.
Maybe Luffy will break this curse. Though I hope Gear Fourth has nothing to deal with size.
@O:
gear 4 could looks like this; luffy knoting himself on turning into a crazy hard bouncing ball, even more powerfull than lead bullets
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+1000 you are the greatest mind of AP
Do you remember that scene in "Guardians of the Galaxy" where Starlord dances in front of Ronan,the Accuser?
That's Gear 4th.
There are certain systems that have not been explored and that could do with gear 4.
1)Muscles (as stated by many which to be honest makes sense somewhat)
2) The Nervous system. Now this I find interesting, All movement related to any being involves a bioelectric signal. Now, Luffy being a rubber man, has bioelectric signals that travel through rubber. Which either means that these signals are also different, from your average fellow or that somehow his body manages to carry on signals via other means.Could he excite his nervous system so as to reach an impact rupture and cause a wave (such as the impact dial or the Happou navy technique) who knows but it sounds quite amazing.
3) The lymphatic system. Which is the system that has to do with removing dead cells, debris, patogens, toxins and destroying waste. I[m not sure how this system works in a rubber man, but what would happen if Luffy could somehow alter it via air inyeccion, compresion or other. Who knows, even if I don[t believe that Luffy will ever get some regenerating ability, maybe his endurance and durability could be enhanced by altering and playing with this system. It is also the system that helps to process the blood through capilar filtration. so theres a lot to explore here.I am sure there are more systems in human biology but the ones I can think of considering Luffy's last stance (reaching his wrist to his mouth) are these. Then again, it could be related to skin for all we know.
I like all three of your suggestions.
Luffy bites his finger and blows air into his bones for Gear 3. Maybe for Gear 4 he bites his wrist and raises his body's carbon dioxide levels. There would be negative effects to this when a normal person does this but maybe using One Piece Logic it could result in a power up, similar to how Gear 2 and 3 works out.
Carbon dioxide..
Helps dilate smooth muscle tissue.
Helps regulate cardiovascular system.
Higher more active tissues and cells generates higher levels of CO2 resulting in immediate local vasodilation (relaxation of smooth muscles with the result of increasing the diameter of the vessels), thus setting the stage for supplying the required oxygen and glucose to the associated tissues.
This would take into account what I said about Luffy's respiratory system being the limiting factor…in the end might help him greatly in surpassing his limitations.
I am also thinking that if the level of CO2 increases Luffy might turn blue similar to how he looked in his Nightmare Luffy form. Gear 2 Luffy might be overbreathing which might result in having the most amount of O2 his body can handle..causing him to turn pink/red. If Gear 4 results in hims having the least amount of O2 his body can handle he might turn dark blue.
Still hope to see some electricity and what I said about the nervous system previously. However, I personally don't mind if Oda brings back a different variant of Nightmare Luffy instead...
Have just read an awesome theory of Gear Fourth involving air an muscles.
Basically it's Luffy inhaling lots of air to focus it on the limbs or blowing directly to his muscles (explaining why he put his arm in his mouth) to get a similar Hone Fusen but instead in the muscles… and before exhaling that air, harder the body with Haki to pressure it.
Meaning that in every move realized it's going to create a shockwave, which can be enhanced with Gear Second to a proper speed (denoted by Doflamingo to be good but lacking power) and even with Gear Third to release all the air in one punch that i suppose it might destroy the Birdcage.
Thinking on it... it can enhance the Red Hawk too, air is the food of fire.
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Guys, how it is romanized the Gear Fourth?
Gear Second = GIA SEKANDO Gear Third = GIA SADO Does anyone know?
Perhaps gear 4th is connected to Luffy making a lot of laud noise or air manipulation?
I mean that Luffy might have had asked Cabbage to take everybody far away because he planned to use gear 4th and it does something to everybody around?
Luffy shotting pressurized air would be an option as well but Its very likely that is not the case as we already had Vergo who had lungs strong enough to turn dart flying from his bamboo into something with effect of tank bullet..
What if the next chapter Sabo shows up and Luffy doesnt go gear fourth and instead they tag team to beat DD.
A possibility that occurred to me - I think I saw a post about it, as well, but I'm not 100% sure where - is that Luffy will use something like gear third, but instead of inflating himself, use the air pressure as the working medium in a piston, and use that to create more explosively powerful stretching attacks with less windup.
And what's more, it would looks like a bit like Bellamy's power…And having doflamingo being defeated by a technique that resemble to the one used by someone he treated like shit would be kinda nice.
What if the next chapter Sabo shows up and Luffy doesnt go gear fourth and instead they tag team to beat DD.
I won't really be too bothered. Except for the fact that Sabo was going somewhere else, so I would like a solid reason for Sabo changing his route.
am i the only one who have seen some spoilers of gear 4 ?? it looks like magma or something with a full body CoA Haki … just saw it on the internet...
Do you remember that scene in "Guardians of the Galaxy" where Starlord dances in front of Ronan,the Accuser?
That's Gear 4th.
If you don't think Doflamingo a guy who could always wear that outfit couldn't out dance Luffy, or wouldn't even try then you as crazy as they come
am i the only one who have seen some spoilers of gear 4 ?? it looks like magma or something with a full body CoA Haki … just saw it on the internet…
Wow. Whoever posted that image must've timetraveled over a week to get the next issue of Shonen Jump early.
What if the next chapter Sabo shows up and Luffy doesnt go gear fourth and instead they tag team to beat DD.
Would be the biggest troll move ever lol
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am i the only one who have seen some spoilers of gear 4 ?? it looks like magma or something with a full body CoA Haki … just saw it on the internet...
Yeah I haven't seen it weird. Hey am I the only one that's seen a real alien? I saw a pic of one on the internet so I know it's legit
Since Gear 3 was introduced soon after 2, is 5 just around the corner as well?
Would be the biggest troll move ever lol
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Yeah I haven't seen it weird. Hey am I the only one that's seen a real alien? I saw a pic of one on the internet so I know it's legit
https://www.facebook.com/We.Are.Nakama.Forever/timeline seems ligit to me … and not the first time people finds spoilers on OP guys ! :) but lets see it's either this or Luffy becomes a giant with the same speed etc. and can use khaki plus gear 2 like normal...
Since luffy always look scrawny, do you think this could somehow make him really buff?
@krillin (sorry, i thought i clicked reply with quote)
this is something i can see happening.
oda used to draw luffy with very defined musculature in his arms and the rest of his body, not just his abs, early on in the series during major fights or attacks. he stopped and we haven't seen harldy any instances of oda artistically detailing this about him.
i think it was stopped to not remove the audience from identifying with the hero. it can be done with zoro and others because that's just who they are, and it feels right. i think oda realized that a) it was too soon to detail luffy's body so soon, because he would always have to be upping the ante if he did, and b) to possibly not alienate the audience from the hero only.
if he's going to do it again, gear fourth might be a cool place to showcase that, otherwise it might not come back, if it does at all, until nearer the end, and more climactic clashes.
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Not exactly our topic.. but do you guys think this is going to be the final gear?
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This phony honor code that puts you on your throne, a double standard you invoke when you want~
@NER:
Not exactly our topic.. but do you guys think this is going to be the final gear?
Of course not. Why would it be?
@NER:
Not exactly our topic.. but do you guys think this is going to be the final gear?
I think there might be 7-10. He might actually call the last one "final gear" lol. If he's using Gear 4 against Dofla, he is going to need a lot more than that to beat a Yonkou. As to what each Gear can do, I have no idea, but im assuming the final one can use the abilities of each one.
No pliz, i think he will have 5 and a final he will just call Top Gear ODA PLZ!
Luffy will get sponsored and develop Metal Gear, Top Gear, Guilty Gear, Xenogears, and Gears of War.
Is gear second already considered the kaioken of Luffy? If not, it would probably be like that but less the red aura. I wouldn't like Luffy bulking up his body ala Gon or nightmare Luffy though so hopefully, it would be just increase on overall power as what Doffy has been trying hard to imply what Luffy was still lacking to compete with the top tiers.
gear 5th would be Luffy turning into a giant monkey that could shoot energyballs from its mouth. He's a D. and definitely has something to do with their moon just like Saiyans. Get it? Get it? Hue hue hue
@NER:
Not exactly our topic.. but do you guys think this is going to be the final gear?
Super Saiyan God.
Gear God.
Beats me.
5 like a car was my assumption.
@NER:
Not exactly our topic.. but do you guys think this is going to be the final gear?
Gear 2nd = Kaioken
Gear 3rd = Spirit Bomb
Gear 4th = Super Saiyan
Gear 5th = SS2
Gear 6th = SS3
Gear 7th = SS God
There will be 7 gears.
my own theory:
a. he inhales a lot of air from his surrounding constantly as his way of breathing in this mode.
b. instead of ballooning like gear 3rd, he uses koka in his whole (muscle, bone, etc) body wall and cavities to trap and compress the air pressure within his body, without changing his body volume.
c. More air with small room compression results in increases density of air pressure within. With this super pressure and also koka armament, Luffy is gonna be having a body almost as dense as a diamond.
d. he can't stretch in this mode, but his speed is more like the speed of Kuma's pressure cannon, which is said to be almost at speed of lightning because luffy is going to distribute a part of the pressure throughout his rubbery skin pores as super thrusters.
d. when his fist connects with body of target, meaning the target will be hit with lightning-speed, diamond density, then luffy will remove the koka in his fist, to allow super air pressure to blast away throughout his skin pores, resulting in a blast tens and tens of times more powerful than ursus shock, and if Zoro's Ichidai Sanzen Sekai can cut Pica in one slash, Luffy in this mode can destroy Noah or Pica just with one punch.
f. non-stop extensive inhaling will be the aerobic cellular respiration energy supply, so luffy in this mode has limitless stamina.
g. imagine luffy doing gomu2 storm or golden peony with this mode: a million of fists each near-diamond in density, near-lightningspeed, and imbued with super ursus shock.
Some of the points mentioned sounds pretty neat but it sounds too overpowered. Perhaps a lite version of the idea mentioned with minor side effects would be good.
Actually it's my theory to a gear performed when facing Yonkou, not necessarily 4 th gear hehe
I'm guessing either the density or the explosive pressure theme would cut it for the 4th. Without the endless stamina and without the diamond-tier, ofc
Gear 2nd = Kaioken
Gear 3rd = Spirit Bomb
Gear 4th = Super Saiyan
Gear 5th = SS2
Gear 6th = SS3
Gear 7th = SS GodThere will be 7 gears.
so no ss4?
16 blahs
Depending on how you see it, Gear 7 can either be SS God or SS 4
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gotcha, I need to watch that last dbz movie so i can learn about SSG since apparently thats canon lol. Frieza just doesn't stay dead.
So there has to be a Gear 8… SSGSS with Toriko hair
Law with Luffy's Gear 3 would be funny. He'd inflate his hand to be the size of a building, stick it high up in the air, and give the middle finger.
Yeah, I'd have to agree that 4 gears (2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th) makes the most sense, since it would mimic most cars.
Also, we have to bear in mind that it's not like each gear simply marks an ascension in power, ala the grades of super saiyan transformation.
Each Gear is most likely going to be a completely separate application of Luffy's GGnM abilites, to be used in different situations for different purposes.
Also, we've already seen Luffy combining multiple gears for an even wider array of effects.
With 4 gears to mix together in x amount of combinations, Luffy should have more than enough to defeat any opponent, no matter their style or level of strength.
Oh, and he can add CoA on top of all of this, to add some extra kick.
Yeah, 4 gears seems perfect to me.
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On thriller back, Luffy combine Gear 2nd and 3rd to get both speed and power against Moria's shadow assgard. His crew mates were worried saying combining those two was extremely damaging to him. It's simple, Luffy found a way to combine the two, control it properly and reduce the damage on himself.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
Luffy will get sponsored and develop Metal Gear, Top Gear, Guilty Gear, Xenogears, and Gears of War.
You forgot Fullmetal gear solid :D
Hoping Luffy goes the Kaku route and uses Gear Box. He's already missed the opportunity to call upgrading a gear with Haki a Gear Shift.
I am not sure if the "blowing air in between the muscles" gear seem like a very good idea. Wouldn't it rupture the muscles due to continued pressure using air? I know it's a manga and the protagonist is ridiculously strong but it just doesn't seem very attractive. Apart from that, adding air to the muscles doesn't necessarily give you more power. It might just give an impression that the muscles are big.
I still think G4 is the same as G3 but instead of infusing air into his bones, he puts Haki in. Normally, CoA is like a coat, G4 makes the whole body-part made of Haki.
Luffy still has to go gear neutral.
Luffys mind goes neutral aka blank and his CoO and fighting skills become silent deadly.
Moving in a swishy way.
@DHL:
Luffy still has to go gear neutral.
Luffys mind goes neutral aka blank and his CoO and fighting skills become silent deadly.
Moving in a swishy way.
reminds me of gomu gomu no baka
What about this… Maybe gear 4th will do some "cutting like a knive"
"Now it cuts like a Knife"
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On thriller back, Luffy combine Gear 2nd and 3rd to get both speed and power against Moria's shadow assgard. His crew mates were worried saying combining those two was extremely damaging to him. It's simple, Luffy found a way to combine the two, control it properly and reduce the damage on himself.
I just don't think that would be classified as a whole new gear tbh.
Like you said, Luffy's already mashed the two together and never made any reference to it being a whole new technique.
This remains the case, even if he has greater control over the mix of techniques.
A couple more gears, Luffy, and you'll be all set.
A couple more gears, Luffy, and you'll be all set.
We all know that's not where it goes.
Bounce bounce bounce!
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