Chapter 770: Elbaf's Spear
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Yet he floats in the air.
I think there might be a mistranslation somewhere.
We have never seen Machvise "floating" for more than one panel (It's always a shot of him in the air with his arms spread out). Heck, in the latest chapter, he needed to climb one of Pica's spikes to get enough altitude to attack, why not just float then if he could?
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I think there might be a mistranslation somewhere.
We have never seen Machvise "floating" for more than one panel (It's always a shot of him in the air with his arms spread out). Heck, in the latest chapter, he needed to climb one of Pica's spikes to get enough altitude to attack, why not just float then if he could?
https://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/39356
Cnets translation says "floating" same as every other translation that I meet so I dont know if there is chance for mistranslation. If something doesnt fit how you expect power/ fighting to work dont point most likely perfect translation as faulty.Also how can Machvise get back in air after attacks and aim at target if he cannot float ?
We seen him floating also when he attacked Luffy.
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Miss Valentine landed on her own legs without taking any damage. But Machou gets hurt when the shield is on his back. I'm with Sabinis on this one. Or rather, I'm with Sabinis if Machou isn't a flying squirrel Zoan using a shield that ate Miss Valentine.
LoL ZONBI is funny in his own way. -
Miss Valentine landed on her own legs without taking any damage. But Machou gets hurt when the shield is on his back. I'm with Sabinis on this one. Or rather, I'm with Sabinis if Machou isn't a flying squirrel Zoan using a shield that ate Miss Valentine.
LoL ZONBI is funny in his own way.Sounds legit :ninja: Most legit thing I seen on AP in a while
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Didnt robin say "Koala, Sabo, Hack"… You dont call someone by there name if you never seen them before?
I remember that now, but I think maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were asking if she had met them.
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I think Sanji's kick will show its effect during Luffy vs Dof.
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I think Sanji's kick will show its effect during Luffy vs Dof.
Doffy will be winning with Luffy and then suddenly his head is going to explode because of Sanjis attack from before - Vibrating Black Leg of Crack Kick(lamest name I could have came up with).
Just seriously - Mingo looked unaffected back then, only complimented on Sanji being strong and surely knowing how to fight. Dont expect that kick to be mentioned by Mingo..
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Uh, we do.
Luffy trained Haki with Rayleigh, Zoro with Mihawk, Sanji fought 99 Okama Kenpo Masters, Nami researched weather books and tools, Usopp learned to use and collect Pop Greens and lost his fat, Chopper researched medicine, Franky reconstructed himself following Vegapunk's work, Brook went into a world tour.
Except for Robin, everything they did in those 2 years was explained before the timeskip itself.
I must have missed the panel where everyone yelled:"ZORO WTF HAPPENED WITH YOUR EYE!?"
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This right here! Robin is pretty much a time bomb and If Oda allows her to say something she will most likely spill so much knowledge that we won't be able to handle it all, so we just have to wait and see what happens next. I'm 70% sure that she'll have a talk with Mingo and Trebol before everything is set and done.
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This too! It has been shown throughout the serie that Luffy does not give a shit about the past, he lives by the minute, so If it doesn't happened in the present time, he will not care one bit.
^This, so true. ITs also a fact that Luffy doesn't really listen when someone tells the history of another person. When we learned of Nami's past, Luffy fell asleep. Same when Jinbe told the history of Otohime, Shirahoshi's mom and Fisher Tiger.
There are only reasons Luffy listened to Franky when he talked about Kuma=
1- it was short
2- it had history with the crew, not just oneI could say =Also to think about is that Robin was there when Garp revealed Dragon was Luffy's dad, and she saw Luffy had no interest. Luffy never said "gee I wonder what my dad is like". He was more like "I have a dad??" not "what is he like? what does he do?"
So Robin could know that Luffy wouldn't give a whim about her knowing Dragon.I could say that, but its true that Oda's saving the reveal for story impact.
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Also how can Machvise get back in air after attacks and aim at target if he cannot float ?
He gets up?
Then he jumps above the foe and becomes heavy right when they're below.
We seen him floating also when he attacked Luffy.
Uh, he looks like he's jumping above them.
Also, with the name "Super Weight Human", it doesn't make sense that he can become lighter.
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I want to believe that the anime got Machvise floating right.
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Didn't Franky say Machvise was floating?
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Didn't Franky say Machvise was floating?
He did but K(F)C says he believes it was faulty translation of Frankys words.
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He did but K(F)C says he believes it was faulty translation of Frankys words.
Well does he have a better translation where Franky says he's jumping instead of floating?
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And yet we didn't need an explanation on Machvise's powers,they were so specific
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He gets up?
Then he jumps above the foe and becomes heavy right when they're below.
Uh, he looks like he's jumping above them.
Also, with the name "Super Weight Human", it doesn't make sense that he can become lighter.
"fuyo fuyo" sound it's always on Vise when he floats. It's the sound of things floating in japanese. There's no doubt or mistranlation about that aspect of his power.
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"fuyo fuyo" sound it's always on Vise when he floats. It's the sound of things floating in japanese. There's no doubt or mistranlation about that aspect of his power.
Thanks Matamune I just wanted to ask if somebody knows that sound effect next to M on panels where he is up in the air.
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And yet we didn't need an explanation on Machvise's powers,they were so specific
Well, I was going by the most likely explanation. If Oda didn't bother explaining it, it's most likely an upgraded version of kilo kilo. Miss Valentine could float. Even had that umbrella that didn't hinder her weightlessness much. Machvise is heavily implied to be able to do the same, probably with greater maximum weight limit, though.
Until there's some new development, I'll keep believing this is the case.
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Well does he have a better translation where Franky says he's jumping instead of floating?
I dont think he does have something like that.
M power might be kilo kilo on steroids but then secret of M floating would have to be shield or his body then. All is bit messy atm without Odas clarification, we have many hints but non makes stuff perfectly clear I guess
Well, I was going by the most likely explanation. If Oda didn't bother explaining it, it's most likely an upgraded version of kilo kilo. Miss Valentine could float. Even had that umbrella that didn't hinder her weightlessness much. Machvise is heavily implied to be able to do the same, probably with greater maximum weight limit, though.
Until there's some new development, I'll keep believing this is the case.
Would be imo most lazy/ not crative power Oda came up this arc.. So I hope its not so easy.
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Have no idea how the get into this discussion..
Oh got it, Mcburguer's tail is the one piece!!
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I can't make a new thread, so I will post that here.
I found something who's gonna change our life lol
Oda officialy rated the level of the characters, I copy/paste with the google trad.
The databook will be officially released in 2015.
After that, OP will never be watched with the same eyes…
DATA BOOK classement LV POWER 2014 ONE PIECE by oda eichiro.
SS : 白ひげ
S:赤犬 黄猿 クザン 藤虎 黒ひげ
S-:ミホーク マルコ レイリー
A:ドフラミンゴ Z ジョズ ビスタ サボ
B:ロー エース
B-:ヴェルゴ
C:ルフィ ゾロ スモーカー ハンコック マゼラン ジンベエ シーザー くま シキ エネル
D+:サンジ ワールド モネ クロコダイル モリア
D:ラオG フランキー バルトロメオ チンジャオ イワンコフ デリンジャー
E:オーズ エリザベロー2世 カリブー 錦えもん
F+:ホーディ ヒョウゾウ ワダツミ ビンズ イデオ サイ ファンク兄弟
F:ベラミー ナイチン パシフィスタ ルッチ アイン シュガー
G:ウルージ ソニア マリー ブー ロビン チョッパー ブルック ミノタウロス ワイパー ベビー5
H:カク ジャブラ リューマ たしぎ ドリー ブロギー ペローナ ウソップ
I:ブルーノ ダズ オーム シュラ ガンフォール サトリ レベッカ アブサロム クマドリ カリファ ハンニャバル
J:フクロウ ゲダツ ゼオ イカロス ダルマ ドスン フォクシー ボンクレー フカボシ ナミ
K:ネロ アーロン クリーク ヤマ ブラハム ペル チャカ ワンゼ Tボーン ギン
L:クロ Mr.4 Mr.3 バギー ビッグパン パウリー ダブルフィンガー
M:クリケット ショウジョウ マシラ デュバル ピクルス ハンバーグ ワポル チェスマーリモ メリークリスマス
N:ミスGW Mr.5 パール ドルトン ハチ クロオビ チュウ バレンタイン ヘルメッポ ポルチェ
O:イガラム ビビ ジャンゴ フルボディ モーガン マンデー ブチ シャム モージ カバジ スパンダム Mr.9Classement de données livre LV puissance 2014 ONE PIECE par eichiro oda.
SS: White beard
S: s Wisteria - Balck Beard - Kizaru - Fujitora - Aka Inu
S- : Mihawk - Marco - Rayleigh
A: Aokiji - Doflamingo - Z - jozu - Vista - Sabo
B: Law- Ace
B-: Smoker - Vergo
C: Zoro - Luffy - Hancock - Magellan - Jinbei - Caesar
D +: Sanji - bandit world - Crocodile - Monet - Moria - D Rolland G - Franky - Bartolomeo - Cinzia - Ivankov - Dillinger
E : OOo elizabellow II de caribou Nishiki Doraemon
F +: chouzou capiteux wadatsumi Binns Eagleton Sai Funk Brothers : Bellamy Nitin PA Sifis à Lucci ein sucre
G: ursi Sonia Marie Boo Robin chopper lingettes Brook Minotaure bébé 5
H: Kak Jabra ryuuma avait endigué Dolly Bloggie Perona Usopp
I: pistolet de Shura Bruno DAZ ohm tomber Satori Rebecca Absalom ours Doli Khalifa hannyabal
J: Star Princess Bong RA connu OWL gedz Zeo Icarus Dharma bruit sourd Foxy NAMI
K: Nero Aaron Creek Yama Braham Pell Chaka vange OS Gin
L: Clos Mr.4 Mr.3 buggy Paulie gros doigt
M: cricket shoujou Masirah Duval pickle hamburgers Wapol échecs marimo
N:, GW Miss Merry Christmas Mr.5 Pearl Dalton abeille Crooke Chu Valentine helmeppo police
O: I Garam Bibi Django full-bodied Morgan Munday repéré siamois Maugis chou Irina Mr.9Fell free to make a new thread with my post.
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That looks really fake.
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Whitebeard OP pls nerf
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I can't make a new thread, so I will post that here.
I found something who's gonna change our life lol
Oda officialy rated the level of the characters, I copy/paste with the google trad.
The databook will be officially released in 2015.
After that, OP will never be watched with the same eyes…
DATA BOOK classement LV POWER 2014 ONE PIECE by oda eichiro.
SS : 白ひげ
S:赤犬 黄猿 クザン 藤虎 黒ひげ
S-:ミホーク マルコ レイリー
A:ドフラミンゴ Z ジョズ ビスタ サボ
B:ロー エース
B-:ヴェルゴ
C:ルフィ ゾロ スモーカー ハンコック マゼラン ジンベエ シーザー くま シキ エネル
D+:サンジ ワールド モネ クロコダイル モリア
D:ラオG フランキー バルトロメオ チンジャオ イワンコフ デリンジャー
E:オーズ エリザベロー2世 カリブー 錦えもん
F+:ホーディ ヒョウゾウ ワダツミ ビンズ イデオ サイ ファンク兄弟
F:ベラミー ナイチン パシフィスタ ルッチ アイン シュガー
G:ウルージ ソニア マリー ブー ロビン チョッパー ブルック ミノタウロス ワイパー ベビー5
H:カク ジャブラ リューマ たしぎ ドリー ブロギー ペローナ ウソップ
I:ブルーノ ダズ オーム シュラ ガンフォール サトリ レベッカ アブサロム クマドリ カリファ ハンニャバル
J:フクロウ ゲダツ ゼオ イカロス ダルマ ドスン フォクシー ボンクレー フカボシ ナミ
K:ネロ アーロン クリーク ヤマ ブラハム ペル チャカ ワンゼ Tボーン ギン
L:クロ Mr.4 Mr.3 バギー ビッグパン パウリー ダブルフィンガー
M:クリケット ショウジョウ マシラ デュバル ピクルス ハンバーグ ワポル チェスマーリモ メリークリスマス
N:ミスGW Mr.5 パール ドルトン ハチ クロオビ チュウ バレンタイン ヘルメッポ ポルチェ
O:イガラム ビビ ジャンゴ フルボディ モーガン マンデー ブチ シャム モージ カバジ スパンダム Mr.9Classement de données livre LV puissance 2014 ONE PIECE par eichiro oda.
SS: White beard
S: s Wisteria - Balck Beard - Kizaru - Fujitora - Aka Inu
S- : Mihawk - Marco - Rayleigh
A: Aokiji - Doflamingo - Z - jozu - Vista - Sabo
B: Law- Ace
B-: Smoker - Vergo
C: Zoro - Luffy - Hancock - Magellan - Jinbei - Caesar
D +: Sanji - bandit world - Crocodile - Monet - Moria - D Rolland G - Franky - Bartolomeo - Cinzia - Ivankov - Dillinger
E : OOo elizabellow II de caribou Nishiki Doraemon
F +: chouzou capiteux wadatsumi Binns Eagleton Sai Funk Brothers : Bellamy Nitin PA Sifis à Lucci ein sucre
G: ursi Sonia Marie Boo Robin chopper lingettes Brook Minotaure bébé 5
H: Kak Jabra ryuuma avait endigué Dolly Bloggie Perona Usopp
I: pistolet de Shura Bruno DAZ ohm tomber Satori Rebecca Absalom ours Doli Khalifa hannyabal
J: Star Princess Bong RA connu OWL gedz Zeo Icarus Dharma bruit sourd Foxy NAMI
K: Nero Aaron Creek Yama Braham Pell Chaka vange OS Gin
L: Clos Mr.4 Mr.3 buggy Paulie gros doigt
M: cricket shoujou Masirah Duval pickle hamburgers Wapol échecs marimo
N:, GW Miss Merry Christmas Mr.5 Pearl Dalton abeille Crooke Chu Valentine helmeppo police
O: I Garam Bibi Django full-bodied Morgan Munday repéré siamois Maugis chou Irina Mr.9Fell free to make a new thread with my post.
lol Smoker stronger than Luffy.
lol Mihawk rating.
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^ is this true?
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It would kinda make some sense if that was pre TS levels. Levels… :sad:
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What lenguage is that?? Whitebeard SS?? That's nazi enough so I buy it.
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It would kinda make some sense if that was pre TS levels. Levels… :sad:
Agree, Zoro post TS should be SS :ninja:
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Hahahaha couldn't you wait for the break next week in order to post this crap?A few naive posters over analyzing this fake list and literally we could go without a new chapter for months!
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Agree, Zoro post TS should be SS :ninja:
Noo, that's nazi level. This ranks the fascism-character level.
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If according to this new conclusive power level evidence,Whitebeard is the Hitler of One Piece,then who is Akainu?:ninja:
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Green Bull and Shanks confirmed dead.
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Noo, that's nazi level. This ranks the fascism-character level.
Zoro is Hitler in disguise, you should have known better.
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If according to this new conclusive power level evidence,Whitebeard is the Hitler of One Piece,then who is Akainu?:ninja:
He'll be between Kim and Castro, not even Stalin.
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Only the one who we already see in action haved been classified.
The one who send me this, told me the naruto's shitty end way before the scans.
Can't defend me any longer, so we just haved to wait and see what's comming on 2015.
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Well, I was going by the most likely explanation. If Oda didn't bother explaining it, it's most likely an upgraded version of kilo kilo. Miss Valentine could float. Even had that umbrella that didn't hinder her weightlessness much. Machvise is heavily implied to be able to do the same, probably with greater maximum weight limit, though.
Until there's some new development, I'll keep believing this is the case.
I don't really see Oda making a fruit that's just a copy paste of another but with a few added perks.
Also, Ms. Valentine needed the umbrella to float as her minimal weight was 1kg, which is not enough to float by itself. Machvise doesn't really have anything that could keep him airborne.
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I can't make a new thread, so I will post that here.
I found something who's gonna change our life lol
Oda officialy rated the level of the characters, I copy/paste with the google trad.
The databook will be officially released in 2015.
After that, OP will never be watched with the same eyes…
DATA BOOK classement LV POWER 2014 ONE PIECE by oda eichiro.
SS : 白ひげ
S:赤犬 黄猿 クザン 藤虎 黒ひげ
S-:ミホーク マルコ レイリー
A:ドフラミンゴ Z ジョズ ビスタ サボ
B:ロー エース
B-:ヴェルゴ
C:ルフィ ゾロ スモーカー ハンコック マゼラン ジンベエ シーザー くま シキ エネル
D+:サンジ ワールド モネ クロコダイル モリア
D:ラオG フランキー バルトロメオ チンジャオ イワンコフ デリンジャー
E:オーズ エリザベロー2世 カリブー 錦えもん
F+:ホーディ ヒョウゾウ ワダツミ ビンズ イデオ サイ ファンク兄弟
F:ベラミー ナイチン パシフィスタ ルッチ アイン シュガー
G:ウルージ ソニア マリー ブー ロビン チョッパー ブルック ミノタウロス ワイパー ベビー5
H:カク ジャブラ リューマ たしぎ ドリー ブロギー ペローナ ウソップ
I:ブルーノ ダズ オーム シュラ ガンフォール サトリ レベッカ アブサロム クマドリ カリファ ハンニャバル
J:フクロウ ゲダツ ゼオ イカロス ダルマ ドスン フォクシー ボンクレー フカボシ ナミ
K:ネロ アーロン クリーク ヤマ ブラハム ペル チャカ ワンゼ Tボーン ギン
L:クロ Mr.4 Mr.3 バギー ビッグパン パウリー ダブルフィンガー
M:クリケット ショウジョウ マシラ デュバル ピクルス ハンバーグ ワポル チェスマーリモ メリークリスマス
N:ミスGW Mr.5 パール ドルトン ハチ クロオビ チュウ バレンタイン ヘルメッポ ポルチェ
O:イガラム ビビ ジャンゴ フルボディ モーガン マンデー ブチ シャム モージ カバジ スパンダム Mr.9Classement de données livre LV puissance 2014 ONE PIECE par eichiro oda.
SS: White beard
S: s Wisteria - Balck Beard - Kizaru - Fujitora - Aka Inu
S- : Mihawk - Marco - Rayleigh
A: Aokiji - Doflamingo - Z - jozu - Vista - Sabo
B: Law- Ace
B-: Smoker - Vergo
C: Zoro - Luffy - Hancock - Magellan - Jinbei - Caesar
D +: Sanji - bandit world - Crocodile - Monet - Moria - D Rolland G - Franky - Bartolomeo - Cinzia - Ivankov - Dillinger
E : OOo elizabellow II de caribou Nishiki Doraemon
F +: chouzou capiteux wadatsumi Binns Eagleton Sai Funk Brothers : Bellamy Nitin PA Sifis à Lucci ein sucre
G: ursi Sonia Marie Boo Robin chopper lingettes Brook Minotaure bébé 5
H: Kak Jabra ryuuma avait endigué Dolly Bloggie Perona Usopp
I: pistolet de Shura Bruno DAZ ohm tomber Satori Rebecca Absalom ours Doli Khalifa hannyabal
J: Star Princess Bong RA connu OWL gedz Zeo Icarus Dharma bruit sourd Foxy NAMI
K: Nero Aaron Creek Yama Braham Pell Chaka vange OS Gin
L: Clos Mr.4 Mr.3 buggy Paulie gros doigt
M: cricket shoujou Masirah Duval pickle hamburgers Wapol échecs marimo
N:, GW Miss Merry Christmas Mr.5 Pearl Dalton abeille Crooke Chu Valentine helmeppo police
O: I Garam Bibi Django full-bodied Morgan Munday repéré siamois Maugis chou Irina Mr.9Fell free to make a new thread with my post.
The translation is not right!
- All Admirals including Aokiji are in S level, being クザン -> Kuzan A.K.A Aokiji.
- B- level doesn't have Smoker. Smoker is in the C level, with Luffy and the rest.
- Jesus Burgess, Kuma, Shiki and Enel are in level C
- Lao G(D Rolland G), Franky, Bartolomeo, Chinjao(Chinia), Ivankov and Dellinger are in Level D not D+
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I don't believe that is made by Oda, and if is true that is in the Databook it also isn't made by Oda so it doesn't really matter. In the end the battles in the series are the only thing that matters.
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People are really believing that bogus list?
Probably a bored 2chan who got into a power level discussion.
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They made their own power level list, that's awesome!
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Dofla missing is evidence enough.
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That list has too much controversy plus we don't know if it applies to post time skip or not. I'll wait to 2015
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No wonder he can't make a new thread.
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Oh good something pseudo official for morons to use in MY DAD COULD BEAT UP YOUR DAD discussions.
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The translation is not right!
- All Admirals including Aokiji are in S level, being クザン -> Kuzan A.K.A Aokiji.
- B- level doesn't have Smoker. Smoker is in the C level, with Luffy and the rest.
- Jesus Burgess, Kuma, Shiki and Enel are in level C
- Lao G(D Rolland G), Franky, Bartolomeo, Chinjao(Chinia), Ivankov and Dellinger are in Level D not D+
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I don't believe that is made by Oda, and if is true that is in the Databook it also isn't made by Oda so it doesn't really matter. In the end the battles in the series are the only thing that matters.
My bad i'm the one who made the mistakes when pastying the names.
I forgot to cut the letter F with the Fplus also
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People are really believing that bogus list?
Probably a bored 2chan who got into a power level discussion.
That's exactly what it is, lol.
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@Steven:
That's exactly what it is, lol.
Haven't seen you post in a chapter thread for a while.
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The translation is not right!
- All Admirals including Aokiji are in S level, being クザン -> Kuzan A.K.A Aokiji.
- B- level doesn't have Smoker. Smoker is in the C level, with Luffy and the rest.
- Jesus Burgess, Kuma, Shiki and Enel are in level C
- Lao G(D Rolland G), Franky, Bartolomeo, Chinjao(Chinia), Ivankov and Dellinger are in Level D not D+
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I don't believe that is made by Oda, and if is true that is in the Databook it also isn't made by Oda so it doesn't really matter. In the end the battles in the series are the only thing that matters.
I can't help but notice a distinct lack of vegetables or other Yonkou on this list.
#CabbageVsKaidoConfirmed
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Uh, we do.
Luffy trained Haki with Rayleigh, Zoro with Mihawk, Sanji fought 99 Okama Kenpo Masters, Nami researched weather books and tools, Usopp learned to use and collect Pop Greens and lost his fat, Chopper researched medicine, Franky reconstructed himself following Vegapunk's work, Brook went into a world tour.
Except for Robin, everything they did in those 2 years was explained before the timeskip itself.
I'm talking about some of the experiences of what happened. What you're saying is rather obvious. You're happy with an author taking an incredible amount of time without throwing us a bone of what is happening for the sake of mystery/intrigue and completely overdoing it, others clearly are not.