Dinosaurs are ancient cats. Neko Neko Reptilian Pussy Model.
Ohhh, that explains everything. Now that i think about it, it was clear as day. They both have tails. Can't believe i missed that.
Chapter 767: Cora-san
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Law is getting pretty much wrecked atm and Luffy is also wounded pretty nasty if you ask me.. They are still going so It would be cool if some of wounded gladiators would back up Ideo and finish off Dellinger.
Ideo as cool as he is should not be the one(only one) to KO a family member - it would make him stand out much imo - so I think that Blue Gilly or somebody else should get back up and help Ideo in last bit of fight. It would be good for Gladiators as group from story perspective imoLuffy isn't wounded he has just been side tracked by Doflamingo's clone. Which he'll hopefully give the Blueno treatment.
Idea along with Sai and Chinjao are the strongest amongst the Coliseum fighters so it makes since if they were the ones to fight 1on1 with the officers. Usually the more interaction you have with Luffy the larger your role.
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Because it boils down to a carnivore with physical power, teeth, claws. In this case there's a big tail as well. Just how it strikes me.
But that description applies for a high percentage of the animals. I think something more specific is needed to call it a variation.
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I always wondered what good is that fruit in a proper battle. It seems design to get rid of those weaker than you.
Yeah, unless he develops wings, the only abilities i can think is strength.
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Luffy isn't wounded he has just been side tracked by Doflamingo's clone. Which he'll hopefully give the Blueno treatment.
Idea along with Sai and Chinjao are the strongest amongst the Coliseum fighters so it makes since if they were the ones to fight 1on1 with the officers. Usually the more interaction you have with Luffy the larger your role.
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and here you can see cuts on Luffys "X" scar. So Luffy isnt wounded?
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and here you can see cuts on Luffys "X" scar. So Luffy isnt wounded?
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Luffy isn't so severely wounded that he can't fight anymore. Take Alabasta or any other saga were it seems like Luffy is done for but comes back to finish it.
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I meant in the flashback.
My bad. well, I am not sure as he could have learned about it during his two years period with Doflamingo's family especially since the Don took it upon himself to educate Law in various fields, or maybe Rocinante being the Marine Commander that he is, and knowing that such knowledge will greatly help Law in the future and against Doflamingo, ended up telling Law about it. But those are all guesses so I can't be sure.
I still kind of hope for Bartolomeo having proper 1 on 1 with Gladius..
But Robin-chwan… :sad:
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Absolute Hotness… Arara, I Mean Justice
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Strength? With what? You saw how short the hands of a T-rex were? Except if the fight consist of pushing I don't what good that's gonna have.
With his tail? What do you think if we include agility? His fruit must do something right?…right?
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Strength? With what? You saw how short the hands of a T-rex were? Except if the fight consist of pushing I don't what good that's gonna have.
Not so fast, what about hybrid form?
Because Lucci's fruit was shitty when he went full leopard too. Never go full leopard!
It was his hybrid form that was effective, as is the case with every zoan introduced so far in the story. So we have a human sized T-Rex, thick skinned, with increased senses, muscle power and speed. Probably with normal sized arms, but for the record, those tiny hands T-Rex had were incredibly strong.
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Luffy isn't so severely wounded that he can't fight anymore. Take Alabasta or any other saga were it seems like Luffy is done for but comes back to finish it.
I never said that he is severly wounded but he isnt "fresh" anymore - few deep cuts like those 2 and Luffy wont be going as good as he is now.
Would be to see Luffy with new gear as 8 meter tall gigant(foreshadowed perhaps with rumours about Luffy after time skip- seen it somewhere on forum and liked idea).Also I have an idea on Machvise Devil Fruit power.
For some time I thought that he is super weight human and that means he can change his own weight like Miss Valentine but now I think he can change weight of object that he touches/ carries.
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He has that metal thing on his back and had it also during time of flashback. Law called him Super Weight Man so seems like Machvise had this power when Law was part of crew 16-13 years ago, whem M was still "fit" and not round as he is now.
And we see Machvise with same metal thing on his back during flashback!
so perhaps by controlling its weight he can either float making it far lighter than air or he can slam into the ground making it weight 10tons?
Would be very cool to grab somebodys weapon and make it so heavy that somebody cannot use it anymore- just an example. And it would make it super different from Miss Valentine power. -
But that description applies for a high percentage of the animals. I think something more specific is needed to call it a variation.
I know, and for myself I include Jabrya in there as well, though Oda wanted to play with the big bad wolf and his scenes were more about his personality.
When he's featured a zoan in a major way he has tried always tried to vary it;
Chopper has his extra forms, Bison was an herbivore played straight. Lucci & Jabrya. Kaku's improbable giraffe. The Boa sister's snake-form. The Impel Down guards were pure brute force but not indivualistic so another cow-type didn't matter. Marco's mythical phoenix and Sengoku's buddha. Pekom's turtle and Lafitte's bird-form are presumably going to have larger roles. Oda's really tried to keep them very different.A t-rex is different but not that far. To me anyway, it's mainly Drake didn't have much personality, so another plain slugfest with a stoic guy with big teeth seemed in the works. Getting a bit more personality into Drake will make the difference.
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Also I have an idea on Machvise devil fruit power.
For some time I thought that he is super weight human and that means he can change his own weight like Miss Valentine but now I think he can change weight of object that he touches/ carries.
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He has that metal thing on his back and had it also during time of flashback. Law called him Super weight man so seems like Machvise had this power when Law was part of crew 16-13 years ago.
And we see Machvise with same metal thing on his back during flashback! [qimg]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/TBD-762.0/compressed/v008.jpg[/qimg] so perhaps by controlling its weight he can either float making it far lighter than air or he can slam into the ground making it weight 10tons?
Would be very cool to grab somebodys weapon and make it so heavy that somebody cannot use it anymore- just an example. And it would make it super different from Miss Valentine power.Gee, that's so simple, how did I miss it. Looks like a very good theory.
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How making something attached to you lighter makes you fly now? And what about his tail?
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I would consider Lucci fruit 10 times better than that fruit. I mean all you really get is a big mouth with pointy theeth.
It's been stated the more viscous the animal the zoan is modeled after the more powerful the user can become and I am pretty sure a tyrannosaurus can wreck jungle cats all day.
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Not so fast, what about hybrid form?
Because Lucci's fruit was shitty when he went full leopard too. Never go full leopard!
It was his hybrid form that was effective, as is the case with every zoan introduced so far in the story. So we have a human sized T-Rex, thick skinned, with increased senses, muscle power and speed. Probably with normal sized arms, but for the record, those tiny hands T-Rex had were incredibly strong.
Coat these tiny hands with CoA and while you are at it, coat the fangs as well. Can you imagine the force of a CoA imbued T-Rex jaw crunch? or the thickness of a T-Rex exterior when fully coated in CoA? What a hunter. CoA makes every power look amazing. :happy:
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How making something attached to you lighter makes you fly now? And what about his tail?
I have no idea about his tail being part of his power or not really…
Maybe he is Tonata on steroids? Or son of Tonata and Elbaf
Srsly I have no idea just shared a thoughts that I had today.As for something lighter than air being attached to you and making you fly. This pic should explain
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How making something attached to you lighter makes you fly now? And what about his tail?
It's true that the flying squirrel zoan theory is more appealing. Imo.
It's been stated the more viscous the animal the zoan is modeled after the more powerful the user can become and I am pretty sure a tyrannosaurus can wreck jungle cats all day.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/e/e7/MegatronBWsourcebook.jpg/300px-MegatronBWsourcebook.jpgLoL I'm sure I still have this one in my old toybox.
The teeth and the tail/claw were pretty sharp for a toy. -
I know, and for myself I include Jabrya in there as well, though Oda wanted to play with the big bad wolf and his scenes were more about his personality.
When he's featured a zoan in a major way he has tried always tried to vary it;
Chopper has his extra forms, Bison was an herbivore played straight. Lucci & Jabrya. Kaku's improbable giraffe. The Boa sister's snake-form. The Impel Down guards were pure brute force but not indivualistic so another cow-type didn't matter. Marco's mythical phoenix and Sengoku's buddha. Pekom's turtle and Lafitte's bird-form are presumably going to have larger roles. Oda's really tried to keep them very different.A t-rex is different but not that far. To me anyway, it's mainly Drake didn't have much personality, so another plain slugfest with a stoic guy with big teeth seemed in the works. Getting a bit more personality into Drake will make the difference.
You gave me a reminder that i was feeling the same way as now the first time i saw Kaku's fruit. A giraffe is pretty useless in combat.
As for Drake, i understand your feelings. A lot of people were feeling the same way towards Law before his flashback. But i'm curious, why don't you like Killer?
For me Urouge is the least interesting out of the bunch, personality wise.
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It can also be assumed Drake had his DF 13 years ago and I feel like the more time with a DF the better, (he should be able to go hybrid form by now) and for the record I don't think Drake was being a coward when he left his crew in the birdcage and escaped with the marines, he took it as a chance to escape because he was obviously being held captive/being abused. I always enjoy when we get to see a character first receive their DF not only because I like to see how Oda draws the fruit but also there is almost always a good story behind it.
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Not sure about that Machvise shield thing. If it was that heavy, it would hurt him as well. His spine and rib cage are under it, after all. Then again, he did say his stomache hurts after makinga body slam once, if I'm not mistaken. But then could happen if he changed his own weight too, I guess.
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I never said that he is severly wounded but he isnt "fresh" anymore - few deep cuts like those 2 and Luffy wont be going as good as he is now.
Would be to see Luffy with new gear as 8 meter tall gigant(foreshadowed perhaps with rumours about Luffy after time skip- seen it somewhere on forum and liked idea).Also I have an idea on Machvise Devil Fruit power.
For some time I thought that he is super weight human and that means he can change his own weight like Miss Valentine but now I think he can change weight of object that he touches/ carries.
! [http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/735 - Fujitora's Objective/12.png](http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/735 - Fujitora's Objective/12.png)
He has that metal thing on his back and had it also during time of flashback. Law called him Super Weight Man so seems like Machvise had this power when Law was part of crew 16-13 years ago, whem M was still "fit" and not round as he is now.
And we see Machvise with same metal thing on his back during flashback! http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/TBD-762.0/compressed/v008.jpg so perhaps by controlling its weight he can either float making it far lighter than air or he can slam into the ground making it weight 10tons?
Would be very cool to grab somebodys weapon and make it so heavy that somebody cannot use it anymore- just an example. And it would make it super different from Miss Valentine power.During his fight with Crocodile Luffy was impaled yet still had a enough strength to fight. Anyways in a few chapters this wound will be fully healed.
That theory of yours could actually turn out to be true. Though how he can withstand 10tons amazes me.
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I have no idea about his tail being part of his power or not really…
Maybe he is Tonata on steroids? Or son of Tonata and Elbaf
Srsly I have no idea just shared a thoughts that I had today.As for something lighter than air being attached to you and making you fly. This pic should explain
Ceaser and Luffy should hot air balloon away from all of this stress and retire.
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Luffy isn't wounded he has just been side tracked by Doflamingo's clone. Which he'll hopefully give the Blueno treatment.
Idea along with Sai and Chinjao are the strongest amongst the Coliseum fighters so it makes since if they were the ones to fight 1on1 with the officers. Usually the more interaction you have with Luffy the larger your role.
Ideo doesn't have any interaction with Luffy. He's even more minor than Hajrudin.
Hell, Boo interacted with Luffy as much as Sai, but is already down.
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With his tail? What do you think if we include agility? His fruit must do something right?…right?
It's impressive visually.
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Not so fast, what about hybrid form?
Because Lucci's fruit was shitty when he went full leopard too. Never go full leopard!
It was his hybrid form that was effective, as is the case with every zoan introduced so far in the story. So we have a human sized T-Rex, thick skinned, with increased senses, muscle power and speed. Probably with normal sized arms, but for the record, those tiny hands T-Rex had were incredibly strong.
I dunno. I mean everytime he is fighting he use that big-ass form. Including against a pacifista. So really I'm not sure.
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I dunno. I mean everytime he is fighting he use that big-ass form. Including against a pacifista. So really I'm not sure.
Maybe that is smallest variant possible for him?
There is a chance he can turn into size of real T-Rex.
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My bad. well, I am not sure as he could have learned about it during his two years period with Doflamingo's family especially since the Don took it upon himself to educate Law in various fields, or maybe Rocinante being the Marine Commander that he is, and knowing that such knowledge will greatly help Law in the future and against Doflamingo, ended up telling Law about it. But those are all guesses so I can't be sure.
That's why I'm asking. Considering Dofla and co knew what it was way back when he 10 I would find it strange for none of his mentor to mention it.
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It's been stated the more viscous the animal the zoan is modeled after the more powerful the user can become and I am pretty sure a tyrannosaurus can wreck jungle cats all day.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/e/e7/MegatronBWsourcebook.jpg/300px-MegatronBWsourcebook.jpgShow me the page because I am certain that it's wrong. The closest to that was the comment on carnivorous Zoan being more violent(and I'm not sure if it wasn't a mistranslation).
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Maybe that is smallest variant possible for him?
There is a chance he can turn into size of real T-Rex.
Getting bigger would make it dumber to me. I just can't take giant and variant seriously in mangas. And it really doesn't solve anything.
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It's impressive visually.
Well, he looks…Extinct? To tell you the truth he doesn't look visually menacing at all. I just hope Oda doesn't make his fruit a gag fruit like he did with Kaku.
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Well, he looks…Extinct? To tell you the truth he doesn't look visually menacing at all. I just hope Oda doesn't make his fruit a gag fruit like he did with Kaku.
Naah. It will be that fruit that is theoretically strong and we'll constantly show his worth towards weaker opponent and serve to prove how that other guy is trong.
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I have no idea about his tail being part of his power or not really…Maybe he is Tonata on steroids? Or son of Tonata and Elbaf
Srsly I have no idea just shared a thoughts that I had today.As for something lighter than air being attached to you and making you fly. This pic should explainI'm pretty sure the balloon weights a hell lot more then the person it carries.
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I'm pretty sure the balloon weights a hell lot more then the person it carries.
I just mean that Machvise perhaps can make that metal shield to be lighter than air, enough to make him float.
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LoL I'm sure I still have this one in my old toybox.
The teeth and the tail/claw were pretty sharp for a toy.Same here! I actually own that toy. It was awesome.
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I just mean that Machvise perhaps can make that metal shield to be lighter than air, enough to make him float.
That's not how it works.
You really think making something lighter than air will allow it to float an overweight man?
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Ideo doesn't have any interaction with Luffy. He's even more minor than Hajrudin.
Hell, Boo interacted with Luffy as much as Sai, but is already down.
None of them really have any interaction with Luffy, but do we really need them to have "that" interaction with Luffy in order for the to take down an officer?
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None of them really have any interaction with Luffy, but do we really need them to have "that" interaction with Luffy in order for the to take down an officer?
No, they have to be important or developed characters to begin with.
Only Chinjao fits that category.
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None of them really have any interaction with Luffy, but do we really need them to have "that" interaction with Luffy in order for the to take down an officer?
I would say no. I mean evryone seems busy and they made a promise. They at least be able to do this much.King Cannon disagree as he believe the coliseum fighters aren't important enough.
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No, they have to be important characters to begin with.
Only Chinjao fits that category.
Why do they need to exactly? We already know that they're lending a hand to Luffy so that makes them important enough in my book and this is a one time thing (Taking the main fighters).
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You gave me a reminder that i was feeling the same way as now the first time i saw Kaku's fruit. A giraffe is pretty useless in combat.
As for Drake, i understand your feelings. A lot of people were feeling the same way towards Law before his flashback. But i'm curious, why don't you like Killer?
For me Urouge is the least interesting out of the bunch, personality wise.
Killer's a guy with sharp things. They kinda drop straight to the bottom of my interest levels. He's polite, has a mask & sharp things. He may do something amazing in the future but for now he hasn't interested me.
Urogue was near the top of the SN for me because of his attitude and Skypeia connection. And I'm hoping his hulk-out number is some kind of insane monk martial art form (even Zoro has his hulk-arms and 'life-return' is more common) rather than a devil fruit. Whichever it was intrigued me.
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I would say no. I mean evryone seems busy and they made a promise. They at least be able to do this much.King Cannon disagree as he believe the coliseum fighters aren't important enough.
Yeah KC wants them to be more important and I see where he's coming from and there's not much to do, but build their relationship after the arc.
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Guys, the point of Drake's fruit was to have a t rex in a hat. Because Oda can make us take that seriously.
I really am looking forward to seeing Drake's hybrid form, though, because it should be 100% kickass. He can already use Haki, as seen when he trashed Caribou.
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That's not how it works.
You really think making something lighter than air will allow it to float an overweight man?
I do not care for real world physics in One Piece world.
But If you have time then please explain in detail how it works in real world.Since when Oda goes into in-depth physical explanation?
We have super wood in OP that makes ship surface few times faster. Why cant we have guy who can manipulate weight of objects he holds/uses and make his shield to be so much lighter than air to work like big balloon?
Like Baloon with helium for example.Also why are you going around forum nitpicking at everybody (since forever) not following your iron logic not having yourself even one theory so we can nitpick?
Maybe try to come up with one so we can do what you do?
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Ideo doesn't have any interaction with Luffy. He's even more minor than Hajrudin.
Hell, Boo interacted with Luffy as much as Sai, but is already down.
The thing about Boo was he was a bit of a slacker who didn't train as much unlike Sai. He also managed to withstand being crushed by Machvise since he was seen later helping clear a path for Luffy.
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Why do they need to exactly? We already know that they're lending a hand to Luffy so that makes them important enough in my book and this is a one time thing (Taking the main fighters).
Suleiman, Blue Gilly, Dagama and Boo were so important they got one-shotted.
If the aforementioned ones were so easily defeated, it doesn't make sense that the remaining ones will be more competent, because none of them is more important than the fallen ones. Why the hell should Ideo take down an officer if he's no more important than Blue Gilly, who got oneshotted?
Also, like I said before, Lao G, Dellinger and Machvise have yet to reveal their abilities, which means we'll need victims.
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Killer's a guy with sharp things. They kinda drop straight to the bottom of my interest levels. He's polite, has a mask & sharp things. He may do something amazing in the future but for now he hasn't interested me.
The polite one would be Law at the archipelago. Killer talks pretty normally.
Urogue was near the top of the SN for me because of his attitude and Skypeia connection. And I'm hoping his hulk-out number is some kind of insane monk martial art form (even Zoro has his hulk-arms and 'life-return' is more common) rather than a devil fruit. Whichever it was intrigued me.
They mentioned him having a devil fruit in the One piece blue deep.
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No, they have to be important or developed characters to begin with.
Only Chinjao fits that category.
You are forgetting about Cavendish.
Also Gladiator other than Chinjao and Cav can take down an Officer and your logic is flawled here as if SH doesnt have any relation with Luffy from Collosseum it doesnt mean they wont have it in close or distant future(Abdullah and Jet taking out Doflamingos string clone and saving Luffy and Law - no relation with Luffy or Law and they still played bigger role than expected).
Sure OP follows some rules but sometimes you seem to see only them not seen other options. It makes dissucssion with you more difficult that you probably acknowledge.Suleiman, Blue Gilly, Dagama and Boo were so important they got one-shotted.
If the aforementioned ones were so easily defeated, it doesn't make sense that the remaining ones will be more competent, because none of them is more important than the fallen ones. Why the hell should Ideo take down an officer if he's no more important than Blue Gilly, who got oneshotted?
Also, like I said before, Lao G, Dellinger and Machvise have yet to reveal their abilities, which means we'll need victims.
Oh so now you say that Lao G and Dellingers are ability users? Or did you just made it to sound like that as you were enemy of them being users if I remember correctly..
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I do not care for real world physics in One Piece world.
But If you have time then please explain in detail how it works in real world.Since when Oda goes into in-depth physical explanation?
We have super wood in OP that makes ship surface few times faster. Why cant we have guy who can manipulate weight of objects he holds/uses and make his shield to be so much lighter than air to work like big balloon?
Like Baloon with helium for example.Also why are you going around forum nitpicking at everybody (since forever) not following your iron logic not having yourself even one theory so we can nitpick?
Maybe try to come up with one so we can do what you do?
I would say shield so light it makes you float break my suspension of disbelief. And if it's the case why not crush people with the shield rather than himself?
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I do not care for real world physics in One Piece world.
But If you have time then please explain in detail how it works in real world.Since when Oda goes into in-depth physical explanation?
We have super wood in OP that makes ship surface few times faster. Why cant we have guy who can manipulate weight of objects he holds/uses and make his shield to be so much lighter than air to work like big balloon?
Like Baloon with helium for example.Also why are you going around forum nitpicking at everybody (since forever) not following your iron logic not having yourself even one theory so we can nitpick?
Maybe try to come up with one so we can do what you do?
Why don't small balloons carry people away? After all balloons are lighter than air.
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Why don't small balloons carry people away? After all balloons are lighter than air.
Why you add "small"?
If there would be ability that makes something lighter or heavier at will then it would have great effect to both sides - either possibly making something extremely light or heavy.
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You are forgetting about Cavendish.
Also Gladiator other than Chinjao and Cav can take down an Officer and your logic is flawled here as if SH doesnt have any relation with Luffy from Collosseum it doesnt mean they wont have it in close or distant future(Abdullah and Jet taking out Doflamingos string clone and saving Luffy and Law - no relation with Luffy or Law and they still played bigger role than expected).
Sure OP follows some rules but sometimes you seem to see only them not seen other options. It makes dissucssion with you more difficult that you probably acknowledge.I don't count Cavendish as he is not part of that group.
Also, the logic is not flawed. Taking down an officer is an important task left to important characters. I mean, you wouldn't expect Lulu or Tilestone to defeat one of the CP9, would you?
Because if you put an unimportant character to fight one of the antagonists, you don't have investment in the fight, as you won't care about the character. That's why they are developed beforehand.
Oh so now you say that Lao G and Dellingers are ability users? Or did you just made it to sound like that as you were enemy of them being users if I remember correctly.
Uh, not all abilities are DF, you know?
CoA is an ability. Fishman Karate is an ability.
