http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/elena-kagan-antonin-scalia-birth-control-mandate
Nice of Kagan to do that, but the whole scenario is a pretty good illustration of why Scalia shouldn't be on the Court; he clearly lets his own political beliefs override anything else.
Today is Gloria Steinem's 80th birthday. Happy Birthday to the glorious alumna of my alma mater, and the most amazing feminist evar!!!
Edit: That being said, I am shocked, SHOCKED, that there is no Google doodle for her today. There are Google doodles for all these random yet culturally/historically significant people and they don't have a doodle for GLORIA STEINEM? WTF Google?
Today is Gloria Steinem's 80th birthday. Happy Birthday to the glorious alumna of my alma mater, and the most amazing feminist evar!!!
Edit: That being said, I am shocked, SHOCKED, that there is no Google doodle for her today. There are Google doodles for all these random yet culturally/historically significant people and they don't have a doodle for GLORIA STEINEM? WTF Google?
I must confess I haven't heard of this woman till now, but reading through these points I want to learn more about her.
I need to make posters and throw them onto my wall~
I must confess I haven't heard of this woman till now, but reading through these points I want to learn more about her.
I need to make posters and throw them onto my wall~
twitchtwitch No, it's okay. She's a really, really important feminist activist of the 20th century who deserves to be learned about.
You can learn more about her here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem
http://www.gloriasteinem.com/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1813
twitchtwitch No, it's okay. She's a really, really important feminist activist of the 20th century who deserves to be learned about.
You can learn more about her here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem
http://www.gloriasteinem.com/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1813
I also never heard of her before O_O
Blasphemy! Blasphemy! What are they teaching in schools today!?
Oh, right. They're teaching that the sun goes around the earth and that Jesus is your savior and the Great Depression was a socialist conspiracy. (Note: I'm not indicating anything about you guys, I'm just ranting.)
Blasphemy! Blasphemy! What are they teaching in schools today!?
Oh, right. They're teaching that the sun goes around the earth and that Jesus is your savior and the Great Depression was a socialist conspiracy. (Note: I'm not indicating anything about you guys, I'm just ranting.)
Or maybe No Maam is from the Czech Republic and the American feminist movement has little to no relevance to his country?
Ask Print, she might know more about her. Even I hadn't heard of the name before that post and women's rights have traditionally been a pretty big thing over here.
It's really just because she's important domestically. Every country has their own icons on these types of social issues.
And they'd have to be some sort of mass movement martyr like MLK or Gandhi to get international traction.
Nolus is Hungarian, No Maam is Czech, you're Finnish. She has nothing to do with your feminisms past or present really.
(by the sound of it Hungary still basically exists in the 70's by American gender standards :/)
@Monkey:
Or maybe No Maam is from the Czech Republic and the American feminist movement has little to no relevance to his country?
Granted I know nothing about local feminist movements, except that the EU is talking about installing quotas on a minimum number of women in the boards of companies or something, apparently regardless of whether there are enough women to hold these positions in the company with the same amount of expertise as men.
I have heard little about it for a while and do not know the details.
Also I am not in any way against feminism, but I do not and have never liked the kind of feminism that only goes for equality if it improves the standing of women and women only, and it seems this would actively make women gain positions based upon their gender and not their abilities or achievements. I admit I can there can be more to this
but then again people were always saying how the Banana curve regulations were a myth from euroskeptics and that, obviously, the EU knows better then that, except I found out that such a regulation existed at one point.
I looked at that picture of her on her wiki page – specifically the glasses she was wearing -- and I thought to myself, surely this picture must be from the 70's.
Sure enough.
@No:
Granted I know nothing about local feminist movements,
Well it's a bit awkward for the former Communist countries, because that's one of those things that hit (most) of the West when you guys were all under the proverbial thumb. The sort of movement that wasn't really possible because movements outside the party weren't possible. You guys had some feminism pressed on you by the governments that happened to be good, but then like everything in one party states that left you waaay behind on the other end.
Feminism (second wave anyway) was like huge in the West in the 60's and 70's, changed a lot or rather started a lot of change that has been pumping away ever since.
But you guys were uh…having Soviet tanks roll over you around the same time Steinem was doing her thing, and the equivalent people in Britain and France and Finland.
I imagine the Czech Republic as more progressive than like every other former communist country (aside from maybe Slovenia) though, I have zero idea how bad or good it is there.
Also of course not every west bloc country had a lot of advancement unfortunately. Italy and the two Greek countries are notably behind.
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@Panda:
I looked at that picture of her on her wiki page – specifically the glasses she was wearing -- and I thought to myself, surely this picture must be from the 70's.
Sure enough.
lol yeah, shaded glasses are one of those instant SEVENTIES visual cues.
@Monkey:
Well it's a bit awkward for the former Communist countries, because that's one of those things that hit (most) of the West when you guys were all under the proverbial thumb. The sort of movement that wasn't really possible because movements outside the party weren't possible. You guys had some feminism pressed on you by the governments that happened to be good, but then like everything in one party states that left you waaay behind on the other end.
Feminism (second wave anyway) was like huge in the West in the 60's and 70's, changed a lot or rather started a lot of change that has been pumping away ever since.But you guys were uh…having Soviet tanks roll over you around the same time Steinem was doing her thing, and the equivalent people in Britain and France and Finland.
I imagine the Czech Republic as more progressive than like every other former communist country (aside from maybe Slovenia) though, I have zero idea how bad or good it is there.Also of course not ever west bloc country had a lot of advancement unfortunately. Italy and the two Greek countries are notably behind.
Well the fact I have been stood up on many a job offer due to being the only guy there, or being offered a lousily paid job abroad instead of the secretary job I had applied and came to an interview about, only to be told it was already promised to someone…..only to then find a new add for the position like two weeks later, that makes me want to be spitefull but I imagine that'd be a problem anywhere.
So honestly, I think it's pretty "normal" from what I can see as someone who A) has never lived anywhere else and B) isn't a woman, or close to any woman except a pensioner and a self proclaimed invalid/housewife (who happens to threaten people with knives, refuse to apply for jobs or go to one of her two job interviews in twenty years because there "would be no point", while insisting every single failed job interview on my part is some sort of spitefull intentional self sabotage meant as an affront to her personally, sorry, venting).
I do know that getting a job as a male waiter in this city is next to impossible as they only want to hire women for men to oggle apparently.
My apologies No Maam, I did not know you were Czech.
@No:
I do know that getting a job as a male waiter in this city is next to impossible as they only want to hire women for men to oggle apparently.
cringe There is a problem on both ends. Keeping jobs from men and putting women in positions of sexual objectification.
@No:
I do know that getting a job as a male waiter in this city is next to impossible as they only want to hire women for men to oggle apparently.
Other way around at the Hague.
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lol at the allowed haircuts
The female hairstyles all look like 80's evangelical Christian housewives.
My apologies No Maam, I did not know you were Czech.
cringe There is a problem on both ends. Keeping jobs from men and putting women in positions of sexual objectification.
I say so quite often, I recently got into a (joke) discussion with someone in the intro section about how they immediately asked me about living in Prague, as if it was literally the only city in this entire country, which happens alot on AP and other places XD
I don't think i know any feminist figurehead by name.
And the only one i can really think of is that SCUM lady
@Monkey:
lol at the allowed haircuts
The female hairstyles all look like 80's evangelical Christian housewives.
Thanks for the link.
Seems that journalist had fun poking some fun at it too, its given me some good chuckles.
esp the follow quote=
"The hair of the country's young men should be less than 5 cm long and they should have a haircut once every 15 days as longer hair apparently takes away nutrition from their brains. Older men, whose brains are presumably in decline anyway, are allowed to rock out with hair as long as 7 cm."
WTF at the bold. :blink:
being American and using inches/feet, I had to pull out a ruler to see just how "long" that was.
5 cm = 2 inches
7 cm = 2 3/4th inches
Oh my that's soooo long, how generous for N. Korea to allow men to have hair that's only 2 inches and once they get old… while they can grow it longer ... as long as it doesn't reach 3 inches ... because its against the law to allow your hair to take nutrients away from your brain. ... only the leader can have a hairstyle not on the list and imitates "a style popular in the West among teenage fans of bands such as Pearl Jam and the Lemonheads in the early 1990s." 
Yeah his haircut on someone who doesn't look like a doughy baby would look like one of those really bad early 90's haircuts, like I think one of the guys in Color Me Badd had that hair.
@Monkey:
lol at the allowed haircuts
The female hairstyles all look like 80's evangelical Christian housewives.
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Ask Print, she might know more about her. Even I hadn't heard of the name before that post and women's rights have traditionally been a pretty big thing over here.
Right you are, Parrot. I do indeed know of Ms Steinem.
Not massive amounts - she is American after all and the Atlantic is wider than you may think in terms of movements in the UK and the US, but she certainly hit (certain) headlines last year when she wrote a public apology for her late 70s-80s opposition to trans rights (of which some current second-wavers are still more opposed to than anyone outside religious fundamentalists). It was quite touching, even if I know many trans folk who refused to accept her apology for all the damage she has done over the years.
I can't say I'm especially surprised that many folk here haven't heard of her though. Until relatively recently, if you asked your average person on the street to name a feminist, they'd reply with 'Germaine Greer'.
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@Print:
I can't say I'm especially surprised that many folk here haven't heard of her though. Until relatively recently, if you asked your average person on the street to name a feminist, they'd reply with 'Germaine Greer'.
Thus it is that I ask – rhetorically, simply to illustrate a point, mind, so there's certainly no need to respond unless you actually wish to use this as an excuse to -- who?
@Panda:
Thus it is that I ask – rhetorically, simply to illustrate a point, mind, so there's certainly no need to respond unless you actually wish to use this as an excuse to -- who?
Similar second wave feminist from the 70s although Greer has if anything become more entrenched over time, and she's actually regarded by many feminists as a bit of a fossil in her philosophies these days.
@Panda:
Thus it is that I ask – rhetorically, simply to illustrate a point, mind, so there's certainly no need to respond unless you actually wish to use this as an excuse to -- who?
Panda I forgive your post for being more than just "Who?" because of the post length requirement. But it's a 16 character requirement, not a 16 subordinate clause requirement. That said, I share your question.
@Monkey:
Yeah his haircut on someone who doesn't look like a doughy baby would look like one of those really bad early 90's haircuts, like I think one of the guys in Color Me Badd had that hair.
With leader-boy's haircut not fitting the approved styles… well its no wonder many think N.Korea's a joke when their leader takes an extreme form of "do as I say, not as I do".
I believe there is one word that describes him - dictator.
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....... though I say he's a dictator that has such an ego he makes it a law that no one can have his hairstyle
Absolutist monarchies? Look no farther than the Arabian peninsula.
I meant a dictatorship successfully lasting three generations.
Complicating things since 2009.
"The hair of the country's young men should be less than 5 cm long and they should have a haircut once every 15 days as longer hair apparently takes away nutrition from their brains.
Ironic given that they don't seem to be bothered by the lack of nutrition from the lack of eating enough if at all.
@Print:
Right you are, Parrot. I do indeed know of Ms Steinem.
Not massive amounts - she is American after all and the Atlantic is wider than you may think in terms of movements in the UK and the US, but she certainly hit (certain) headlines last year when she wrote a public apology for her late 70s-80s opposition to trans rights (of which some current second-wavers are still more opposed to than anyone outside religious fundamentalists). It was quite touching, even if I know many trans folk who refused to accept her apology for all the damage she has done over the years.
I can't say I'm especially surprised that many folk here haven't heard of her though. Until relatively recently, if you asked your average person on the street to name a feminist, they'd reply with 'Germaine Greer'.
If you want to read something fun she's got a great little piece here called: "If Men Could Menstruate."
http://www.haverford.edu/psych/ddavis/p109g/steinem.menstruate.html
And it's totally true.
I meant a dictatorship successfully lasting three generations.
Well yeah, it always seems to crash down after 2, see the Duvaliers, the Taylors etc.
Though Teodoro Obiang took power from his uncle and is diagnosed with cancer, so his son and 2nd Vice President is expected to take his place soon. Given that foreign interests actively support the Nguemas and their endeavour to live like rockstars while the population barely has access to clean water, it's highly likely it will. Heck no one has ever been in charge of Equatorial Guinea since independence except the Nguema clan.
I do wonder why alot of these "not even remotely close to being actual republics" republics even bother with going through the motions of having rigged elections to just coincidentally have the son of the previous multi decade ruler get like 96 % of the vote. Granted North Korea is actually not even doing that, but yeah, in the old days people like this'd just declare themselves king and there'd be no hint of a facade.
Not saying I want that to happen but it is an odd thing to me.
Elections still happen in North Korea. What do you think the D in DPRK stands for?
Elections still happen in North Korea. What do you think the D in DPRK stands for?
I know this is in jest but I mean that the current Supreme Leader has been chosen by his predecessor as Supreme Leader, and from the moment of his father's death he was already treated as Supreme Leader
It's not like Kim Jong-Un won any election, no matter how fraudulent, to become head of state of North Korea.
North Korea's entire history has been a pretty hilariously bizarre hybridization of monarchy, communism, fascism, and general goofiness.
The leaders at the start apparently didn't even really learn what communism even was, the Russians and Chinese couldn't get them to care. They just aligned their bizarre paranoid hyper nationalist hermit crab shell with those two because they needed to.
I think the West have been predicting the 'imminent' fall of the North Korean regime for about 30 years now. It really is an enigma to a lot of the West who don't have to deal with its presence in the same way Russia and East Asia do.
I managed to watch two hours of North Korean TV once, with subtitles. It was oddly charming but in a way that felt wrong - a bit like a childrens' book crossed with the news.
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@Print:
I think the West have been predicting the 'imminent' fall of the North Korean regime for about 30 years now. It really is an enigma to a lot of the West who don't have to deal with its presence in the same way Russia and East Asia do.
I managed to watch two hours of North Korean TV once, with subtitles. It was oddly charming but in a way that felt wrong - a bit like a childrens' book crossed with the news.
Considering fairy tails like swallows mourning the death of Kim Ir-Sen being presented as fact, that's pretty much what I'd call it.
@No:
Considering fairy tails like swallows mourning the death of Kim Ir-Sen being presented as fact, that's pretty much what I'd call it.
The news item I saw was 5 minutes showing the fancy (it was about average by our standards) new apartment one loyal Party member got in Pyongyang, right at the top of a rather grey apartment block with a view over pristine and entirely empty streets.
@Print:
I think the West have been predicting the 'imminent' fall of the North Korean regime for about 30 years now. It really is an enigma to a lot of the West who don't have to deal with its presence in the same way Russia and East Asia do.
I managed to watch two hours of North Korean TV once, with subtitles. It was oddly charming but in a way that felt wrong - a bit like a childrens' book crossed with the news.
North Korea is sort of the ultimate perversion of the historical hermit behavior that East Asia fell into time to time (mostly Korea and Japan).
It's no surprise that the one country in Europe to resemble North Korea was Albania, which was of course historically an isolated mountain area with a stretch of neglected coasts and paranoia about outside powers!
I don't think i know any feminist figurehead by name.
And the only one i can really think of is that SCUM lady
It isn't a coincidence. History books, media at large cover very little in the way of women to begin with when it comes to social work. It's always been written off as narrow and niche, despite it being the opposite. Since the suffragettes first cropped up, they were made into straw figures, news stories about them being reduced into sensationalism, or simply did what they could to discredit them. There are oodles and oodles of political cartoons from the time using the exact same hateful and sexist rhetoric you still hear today. Time doesn't wipe away the dirt and leave behind a true history of polished facts set in stone and what you're left with is a very small group of white women who are remembered almost as a consolation because enough people went "well I guess the bare minimum human decency we can do is _____" time and time again, micro-movements pushing things forward. These important movements get reduced to like a paragraph in American History books and are basically co-opted, and I don't know enough about Europe to know what was going on with women over there in the early 1900s.
You only know the SCUM lady to begin with because the only times you will ever hear about feminism to this day are easy targets, figures that are "nuts", or the aforementioned straw women who hold the impossible paradigm of being somewhere between "Christian soccer mom" and "radical TERF", because anything goes for a quick laugh.
Patriarchy sucks. There's a lot of important women like bell hooks that everyone should be aware of and even people in our community who are like actively engaged in these thoughts experience a lot of constant learning about our past.
Talk about feminism, and opinion pieces are pretty much everywhere, but i rarely hear names being dropped.
And terms like second wave, and third wave, but i've got no face to stick to those things.
I couldn't name a feminist. Well, I could name the nearest person whose name I know and hope for the best, which would probably work.
But not a famous feminist.
Actually … I probably know very little about anything (epiphany!)
Yeah, I know a couple of Indian women who've campaigned for women's rights, but cannot name a single bona-fide feminist.
Wait, does Kathleen Hanna count?
As someone's who is about to graduate college, this is an absolute a slap to my face and cruelly pissing on all the years of effort, hard work, and money that I have put into my education thus far. There is no excuse for this, it pisses me off so much!
This is the essay paper in question:
THIS. This piece of utter third-grade horseshit received an A minus. A FUCKING A MINUS.
Someone married their stepmom and then got murdered?
Sounds like he used a monkey paw to make a porno story come true.
Then the curse of the paw eventually killed him.
To be fair, that is North Carolina; it's probably the longest term paper ever handed in by an athlete there.
My god. It's straight out of that King of the Hill episode.
Be as it may that you are livid about the accommodations for athletes at colleges, don't forget to take into consideration that if they don't make it into the big times then the school has basically screwed them over for life.
