Beelzebub

Josl

Final battle can go on for a loooooooooooooooooooong time. Naruto has been in its final battle for like 5 years. Bleach is in it's final battle too (apparently), and it's never ending. This could be Beel's final arc, but it'll be made up of a bunch of events and shit, so no real worries here.

The difference is that Naruto makes a loooot of money and Bleach still makes a lot of money. Beelzebub makes not nearly as much money as those two plus it is in bottom (of money making and rank) of the magazine.
WSJ has a very certain way of ending/cancelling series. New series are given a 3 week notice that they are ending. Semi popular series who went for over 100 chapters get a certain amount of chapters from them to end it. The exact number is not known well but Shaman King got 20 chapters. So when a series suddenly accelerates its pace like Beelzebub did it is a clear sign of ending/being cancelled.
The cancellation/ending round has already started. 4 new series are going to enter the magazine which means 3-4 old series are going to get cancelled. Beelzebub seems to be one of them.

PatTraverse

It's exactly as Josl said.Beelzebub is being rushed because it's pretty much gone.

It's been surpassed by too many recent series for it to stay protected.

ZoroFTW9

Is this manga worth reading now?! I haven't read it since after Hilda lost her memories .

x20a

Yeah, this shit is ending soon: http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/beelzebub_2/en/0/237/

Well, at least this is still better than the shitty anime.

KzTxL7

Yeah. Thank god this series is ending. This is such a downfall.

ponx

Too bad, I would've loved an exposition on other demons. We didn't even get to see the others. I think calling Beelzebub "shit" is a bit overstated, sure its been downgrading for quite some time, and the author should've just stuck with the gags. But it was never a manga meant to be taken seriously. Here's hoping Beel will give us 1 last laugh before it ends.

Sâuza

I was a nice ride for the most part, oh well.

Da Funk

Sad, but I think the one simple truth why it is ending soon: Tamura ran out of ideas. Well, it was fun while it lasted.

FireFistAce 0

Beelzebub started out strong, but just seemed to flare out… I feel it was after the Saint Ishiyama Arc. The problem was that it's like KHR was: on the borderline between an action manga and a gag manga. KHR went over the line and never came back... Beelzebub keep towing the line for its entire tenure.

Sâuza

iirc the gag parts weren't appreciated back then, the rankings were always so low Tamura must've been forced by his editor to switch from a (mostly) gag manga to your usual shonen, and it just wasn't his turf.

KageKageKing

Was mentioned sometime that there's another Beel's brother?

Shigan

I always took notice of how Beelzebub did poorly in the rankings, but I didn't see an actual cancellation coming. That's pretty sad.

Razh

@KageKageKing:

Was mentioned sometime that there's another Beel's brother?

I think so. Thought Zen-san was his contractor.

Also, for a while I thought it was Furuichi (without knowing it). Shit, for all we know, it might have been the original plan.

It's a shame, Demon World had so much more potential. Well, everything had so much more potential. I guess Tamura didn't plan his story well enough.

Big_Bad_Lith

yeah, this shit is rushed as hell and it's boring.

I did like that bit with Kunieda, but everything else has just been people I don't understand or don't know having confusing fights with people I used to care about but no longer do.

I think Beelzebub was golden from the Toujou arc through Demon World and St. Ishiyama. After that, with Prince En, and the disappointing way the Behemoth arc was handled, it started to decline. There were periods of brilliance, like when Furuichi got super-strong, but it's just been sliding since.

kouch_lee

I'll always remember the Videogame Arc as one of the most hysterically funny arcs in, like, ever. Furuichi getting super strong was also a magnificient arc.

And the stand-alone chapters full of gags.

Behemoth arc was a disappointment, and the, at the very least, last year of Beelze have been so out-of-this-world rushed that it's hard to enjoy. In its defence, I gotta say I dont feel like it never became "terrible" or unreadable, and the charm is definitely there even now, but it has sink to pretty damn low levels, quite possibly forced by the very low rankings its been getting for a long time now.

A shame.

Razh

It's too bad it's all about numbers. The story might have gotten better. It wasn't really that bad, not until this cancellation wrap up. Although I could have done without that US arc, even though it did make me lol couple of times.

Fucking same thing happened to Psyren, with the story finish looking nothing like it was hinted at first. Which manga is next?

Bigivel

@Razh:

It's too bad it's all about numbers. The story might have gotten better. It wasn't really that bad, not until this cancellation wrap up. Although I could have done without that US arc, even though it did make me lol couple of times.

Fucking same thing happened to Psyren, with the story finish looking nothing like it was hinted at first. Which manga is next?

Psyren, good times(I'm now rereading it) and in the end was really rushed, just like this.

I don't think right now exists a veteran series that could be rushed to end(maybe Gintama? but I don't think so).

AlucarDraculA

You know this used to be one of my favorite manga of and the golden parts of it will always remain so.

I think after its done I'll reread it and make a collage dedicated to Toujou.

ZoroFTW9

@kouch_lee:

I'll always remember the Videogame Arc as one of the most hysterically funny arcs in, like, ever. Furuichi getting super strong was also a magnificient arc.

And the stand-alone chapters full of gags.

Behemoth arc was a disappointment, and the, at the very least, last year of Beelze have been so out-of-this-world rushed that it's hard to enjoy. In its defence, I gotta say I dont feel like it never became "terrible" or unreadable, and the charm is definitely there even now, but it has sink to pretty damn low levels, quite possibly forced by the very low rankings its been getting for a long time now.

A shame.

Can you tell me what chapter the "terrible" part starts so i can read from where i left and stop at the beginning of this terrible arc.

Kdom

@Sâuza:

iirc the gag parts weren't appreciated back then, the rankings were always so low Tamura must've been forced by his editor to switch from a (mostly) gag manga to your usual shonen, and it just wasn't his turf.

Really I thought the countrary, the gag parts where those which ranked better. Beelzebub downfall started with the new school arc when it becomes almost 100% serious. The problem is that you cannot wrap up such a story with gags. So yeah Beelzebub end will add to the long list of shonen jump shitty ones because of their cancelling policy.

Da Funk

I just hope that the love triangle among Oga, Hilda and Kunieda will have a closure. Still shipping the Oga-Kunieda pair.

melody of dead.deanders

@Da:

Sad, but I think the one simple truth why it is ending soon: Tamura ran out of ideas. Well, it was fun while it lasted.

i think that the reason why it it is ending is because of low ratings.. i doubt it that tamura planned this kind of ending.. he already set everything up back in the day with the demon world for a great closure..
@kouch_lee:

I'll always remember the Videogame Arc as one of the most hysterically funny arcs in, like, ever. Furuichi getting super strong was also a magnificient arc.

And the stand-alone chapters full of gags.

Behemoth arc was a disappointment, and the, at the very least, last year of Beelze have been so out-of-this-world rushed that it's hard to enjoy. In its defence, I gotta say I dont feel like it never became "terrible" or unreadable, and the charm is definitely there even now, but it has sink to pretty damn low levels, quite possibly forced by the very low rankings its been getting for a long time now.

A shame.

i so agree.. video game arc, furuichi owning everyone arc are probably my favorites.. seriously beelzebub's comedic side is it's best side imo..
war against behemoth wasn't that great imo too.. especially oga beating jabberwock.. and this last arc was too rushed.. imo oga shouldn't have beaten takamiya and now fuji.. but since the series is ending he will..
@Bigivel:

Psyren, good times(I'm now rereading it) and in the end was really rushed, just like this.

I don't think right now exists a veteran series that could be rushed to end(maybe Gintama? but I don't think so).

psyren was one of the greatest manga imo.. it was original and something fresh.. but it was canceled because of the low ratings.. though the series did get a closure you could tell it was not how it was planned to end..

my thoughts.. are just DAMN YOU WSJ..!! <3 beelzebub..

Megadoomer

If this ongoing fight is the final one, it may be really rushed, but it's still a better ending than Katekyo Hitman Reborn and Eyeshield 21 (two of the three series that ended while I was following them weekly).

x20a

Times like these, I wish there were no rankings… a lot of good serieses end like this...

Bigivel

@Megadoomer:

If this ongoing fight is the final one, it may be really rushed, but it's still a better ending than Katekyo Hitman Reborn and Eyeshield 21 (two of the three series that ended while I was following them weekly).

Eyeshield 21 ended well and not rushed at all! The last game against america was very well made, the only "problem" was that they didn't showed the unofficial part because it was obvious that Japan would loose and it was, well … unofficial.

Comparing a rushed ending like Belzeebub to Eyeshield 21 ending is blasphemy!!! :P

kouch_lee

Infamous rushed endings would include Yu Yu Hakusho and Slam Dunk. . .with a BIG difference: those two series were both super sellers, and I think ranking wise they were also pretty damn high. Just that both authors were burned out with their creations and ended them prematurely.

Now, when a series ends prematurey cause the axe is getting near, that's sad. But I'd actually like to know how much of it is attributed to the rankings and the editors' pressure: the Behemoth Arc was also pretty damn rushed, and that was a long time ago. Was Tamura's manga in danger back then too? I don't know.

PatTraverse

@kouch_lee:

Infamous rushed endings would include Yu Yu Hakusho and Slam Dunk. . .with a BIG difference: those two series were both super sellers, and I think ranking wise they were also pretty damn high. Just that both authors were burned out with their creations and ended them prematurely.

Now, when a series ends prematurey cause the axe is getting near, that's sad. But I'd actually like to know how much of it is attributed to the rankings and the editors' pressure: the Behemoth Arc was also pretty damn rushed, and that was a long time ago. Was Tamura's manga in danger back then too? I don't know.

He was.It went back up after he started doing gags again.That's why i was surprised he went all serious again because i knew that would kill him and it did.

Bigivel

@kouch_lee:

Infamous rushed endings would include Yu Yu Hakusho and Slam Dunk. . .with a BIG difference: those two series were both super sellers, and I think ranking wise they were also pretty damn high. Just that both authors were burned out with their creations and ended them prematurely.

Now, when a series ends prematurey cause the axe is getting near, that's sad. But I'd actually like to know how much of it is attributed to the rankings and the editors' pressure: the Behemoth Arc was also pretty damn rushed, and that was a long time ago. Was Tamura's manga in danger back then too? I don't know.

I don't know if Takehiko and Togashi were burn out or not, is strange. If you're burn out you don't increase set up and then just forget about it.
Note that in Slam Dunk it was everything planned to end in that place a long time before the ending of the series, probably he was planning doing a lot more games, but later decided to put that super team earlier than it was supposed to be, so it was a correction of at least 9 volumes. So it was unfortunate that a lot of the other teams weren't more developed, more because some player had some good designs and skills.
Yu Yu Hakusho went in zig zag till the end. It was a war, then not, then a tournament, then add a lot of characters(he even added characters inside the tournament: at least two) and then there is no tournament, and then Demons are good and then end. It was everything very confusing and destroyed a lot of rules of the story.

Sythus

@Da:

I just hope that the love triangle among Oga, Hilda and Kunieda will have a closure. Still shipping the Oga-Kunieda pair.

Glad I'm not the only one that is hoping for something like that..

AfroSamurai

@Bigivel:

Eyeshield 21 ended well and not rushed at all! The last game against america was very well made, the only "problem" was that they didn't showed the unofficial part because it was obvious that Japan would loose and it was, well … unofficial.

Comparing a rushed ending like Belzeebub to Eyeshield 21 ending is blasphemy!!! :P

Eyeshield's ending WAS rushed. Just look at the last arc and compare it to any of the previous ones. Too many characters introduced, no build up, cut-off ending, really short game… it was really really rushed. Nevertheles, Murata's art helps it look decent, but the stroy itself was certainly rushed, running at 10 times what it should have in the last 5 chapters or so...

Megadoomer

@Bigivel:

Eyeshield 21 ended well and not rushed at all! The last game against america was very well made, the only "problem" was that they didn't showed the unofficial part because it was obvious that Japan would loose and it was, well … unofficial.

Comparing a rushed ending like Belzeebub to Eyeshield 21 ending is blasphemy!!! :P

I don't know - I felt Eyeshield 21's ending was rushed, or at least, the series had been going downhill significantly after the last game against the White Knights. It's been a while since I've read it, but in the final arc, we had several games being played but skipped over entirely, and American opponents who we had no real connection to. I think Panther and Mr. Don were the only ones to have any real characterization - Clifford's entire character could be summed up as "inexplicably better than Hiruma because reasons", and the Brad Pitt look-alike and the native American seemed to be there so they could call their star players "the Pentagon".

While the last arc served a purpose of showing that Panther managed to be successful despite being faced with racism, the series treated his success being due to his race as opposed to his hard work in a more competitive environment, and given that the main characters had already accomplished their goal of winning the Christmas Bowl, they could have just ended the series after that and shown Panther in the NFL in a flash-forward or something. Plus, the ending (with the bizarre "no overtime" rules and the winner of the game only being implied) seems like it was cut off.

Bigivel

Hummm, your answers make me think if eyeshield 21 was really rushed or not. I have to read it again.

Shadowgreed

Beelzebub new chapter I think this manga has to end now!

Smudger

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I enjoyed this more than I should have…

kouch_lee

The fourth wall breaking and the self awareness saved this chapter. It was pretty hilarious in that aspect.

In fact. . .wasn't Tamura being overly ironic in this chapter? Like he's showing the public that he's been forced to do the vanilla Dragon Ball final confrontation with power-ups and final attacks and all that jazz? And he went like, ok, then here you go, Oga goes LITERALLY Super Saiyan. Eat that!

I don't know, I felt like there was some of that in here.

Sythus

@Smudger:

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I enjoyed this more than I should have…

You and me both. Was laughing pretty hard when I read it

TLC

@kouch_lee:

The fourth wall breaking and the self awareness saved this chapter. It was pretty hilarious in that aspect.

In fact. . .wasn't Tamura being overly ironic in this chapter? Like he's showing the public that he's been forced to do the vanilla Dragon Ball final confrontation with power-ups and final attacks and all that jazz? And he went like, ok, then here you go, Oga goes LITERALLY Super Saiyan. Eat that!

I don't know, I felt like there was some of that in here.

It really shows that this series had a lot of editor interference. It's nice that in its final moments it could bring some of the old spark back.

Story-wise, this fight reminded me of when Moria recalled his shadows in Thriller Bark but with none of the build-up.

Hachibukai

@Shadowgreed:

Beelzebub new chapter I think this manga has to end now!

Why seriously?
Because it's a "fighting arc" ? It's not only a comedy manga, but also supernatural-action-fighting.
Even if the author makes little jokes in every fight, since the start of the series.
But i don't find that arc boring at all, some chapters yes, but not the whole arc and neither the fight vs Satan.

Personnaly, i don't think it's the last arc, perhaps the final battle, but Oga need to meet the true father and have a little conversation with him. No fight, but a funny (and little drama) arc to end well the manga.
Even if it seems obvious that we'll never see the Demon's King face haha

manekineko

^ well i did get to ask tamura-sensei when he was in town for an autograph session if we'll get to see demon king's face and he said, probably at the end of the manga. so maybe we would.

x20a

@Smudger:

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I enjoyed this more than I should have…

That made this entire arc worth it

Zik

LOL @ going super saiyan and then even using a few lines from DB.

KzTxL7

The Super Saiyan Joke pretty much kept me from flipping a table after this chapter.

It really was worth it.

EA575

I'm glad he kept the humor till the end

Massimo D Luffy

Is Beelzebub gonna end soon?

x20a

Yeah. Probably a few chapters left?

brennen.exe

The next chapter is titled "End", so I'd say one more chapter is left, unless it's supposed to just mean the end of the fight..

PatTraverse

I doubt they can wrap up the fight and give closure to the characters in the next chapter.

No matter how rushed this has been there is no way that a series that lasted this long shouldn't have some closure.

Smudger

I think the title is in relation to the fight/arc. The series itself has too many other holes to finish yet. Though I think it's pretty close.

As for the series so far. well it's had a lot of good gags and fights. Cool characters, scenarios, moves, references and more. I know it's wrapping up on a bad note to some degree, but I've not let it overshadow the good times.

Im hoping Tamura will learn something from this series, and carry on to release something else in the future.

Cyclone_Baroness

I apparently completely forgot about this series for a few weeks. I was pumped for Furuichi to get into the mix…Now...Nothing?

Yeah the super saiyan thing was amusing...But man is this turning around super quick.

Kaizou 10

It looks like Beelzebub going to get the color page (23 pages) on Issue 13 (which means chapter 240). So, I think Beelzebub will most likely going to end with color page?