Chapter 735: "Fujitora's Intentions"
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For a second there I though Fujitora was going to fight Doflamingo. Then my heart sank.
What I want to know is. Will Fujitora go for Doflamingo in this arc? He says he wants to get rid of DD but wants to be friends temporarily. Someone care to explain?
And is it just me or is Fujitora corrupt? He saw king Riku on the floor and he probably most likely knows a lot of the Dressrosa history details.
Can someone make this clear to me. I'd like some opinions as to what is going on.
Read the mangastream version, I personally found it much easier to understand: http://readms.com/r/one_piece/735/2223/1
But to clarify: Fujitora knows about Dofla overtaking the country 10 years ago. He will for now be 'blind' about what is happening in the country until the Strawhats and the 'unknown people' (refering to the revolutionaries) are dealt with, because protecting the citizens is the most important. After all of it is over, he will be dealing with Doflamingo.
Been reading One Piece since 2002 - first release in Denmark.
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Diamante has a DF that allows him to fly. First thing he does when he comes into the ring is destroying the ground. Game over :ninja:
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For a second there I though Fujitora was going to fight Doflamingo. Then my heart sank.
What I want to know is. Will Fujitora go for Doflamingo in this arc? He says he wants to get rid of DD but wants to be friends temporarily. Someone care to explain?
And is it just me or is Fujitora corrupt? He saw king Riku on the floor and he probably most likely knows a lot of the Dressrosa history details.
Can someone make this clear to me. I'd like some opinions as to what is going on.
he can't do anything to doflamingo as long as dofla is a shichibukai.
the WG only attacks shichibukai who are a threat to the government itself (crocodile searching for pluton),also,king riku is still regarded from a big part of the population as someone who deserved his dethronization,so the marines can't just put him back again.
what fujitora said is that now the civilians are his priority,but detsroying the shichibukai system is his goal,and if he will get the ok from the government after the riverie,he is gonna come back to ake dofla's head. -
How can fujitora disband shichibukai, like kuma said shichibukai have nothing to deal with marines.
And who is fujitora? Kong and Gorosei gonna kick his and akainu ass if he wanted to do something like destroying the shichibukai.
Also Mihawk gonna kick fujitoras ass twice , if he dare to challange him
Lobying and shit.
Also, there were several instances where Marines expressed their distaste for working with notorious pirates. Entire last movie was about one man's grudge against Shichibukai system. So yeah, Fujitora is probably not the only one who is against them.
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how do you reckon this? Sugar's fruit is supposed to make everyone forget the missing people ever existed. We even got a hint of it when the marines were reading the names of the colosseum participants and they couldn't recognize some names.
Well it makes you forget who is missing, but I wanted to say that he knows that SOMEONE is missing. But I remember when Fujitora told one of his subordinates to find out how many people lived in dressrosa? Seemed random to me at first, but I think a list of all inhabitants of dressrosa would only make sense if fujitora has a clue that people are disappearing.
They're more trouble than they're worth. Doflamingo is actively undermining the world government through his underground operations, Mihawk doesn't give two shits about anything. Law used it to get on Punk Hazard and blackmailed one of the others to defect from the system, essentially poking holes in that very system. Hancock hates everyone and won't hesitate to attack indiscriminately when they request anything of her. Buggy is probably off somewhere hunting for treasure with Alvida. The only straightforward useful guy they have is Kuma and they made a shit ton of clones of him. It's not like anything is stopping the marines now but removing the system would change nothing for them. The disadvantages fall towards the few shichibukai who actually need the position for safe havens (this mainly applies to Hancock and Buggy). The Marines don't lose an ounce of strength on their side, and with the conscription, any possibility of them facing a severe shortage of fighting force while dealing with the Yonko or the Revolutionaries is probably negated. Also none of these fuckers would help the Marines anyway.
They dont loose strenght, but they gain enemies: The schichibukai and the pirates that would have been defeated by the schichibukai. I mean Marineford didnt make the marines stronger… They lost garp, sengoku and aokiji. I sometimes wonder why the new admirals havent been at the war or if they have been but we dont know. However destroying the schichibukai system seems like a overconfident move, considering there are guys like blackbeard, shanks and dragon out there. And while you are right that noone of them was a particular big advantage for the marines, having to face them in the grand line seems like an additional task they would have to manage.
If the marines want to risk the stability of the world and take down one of the three big powers, why not start with the yonkos (of course they cant just destroy all the yonkos but slowly trying to stop them since like a better idea than attacking pirates that arent a danger for the marines anymore). -
….I can't possibly be the only one thinking that Ring seems to have been made just for Rebecca.
I can just see it now. Police is reporting a rash of mysterious murder-suicides.
The only common denominator is that all the victims have cartoonish stars and sound effect symbols symbolizing pain surrounding their bottoms.
Some may have scribbled as they laid dying of hate poisoning, why Oda? Why?
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LOL at Senor Pink brushing his teeth with shoe brush.
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He is going to propose it at the reverie most likely. I am not sure the Gorosei would disaggree too strongly with Fuji's judgement of the shichibukai seeing as how destructive they have been. Mihawk literally just wouldn't care. His title seems to just be a means of keeping the marines off of his back.
there's a reason why said institution has survived till now,even through some incidents like crocodile's coup d'etat at alabasta..it's not something you can decide to dismantle on a whim because someone gave a good speech about how wrong it is.
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Read the mangastream version, I personally found it much easier to understand: http://readms.com/r/one_piece/735/2223/1
But to clarify: Fujitora knows about Dofla overtaking the country 10 years ago. He will for now be 'blind' about what is happening in the country until the Strawhats and the 'unknown people' (refering to the revolutionaries) are dealt with, because protecting the citizens is the most important. After all of it is over, he will be dealing with Doflamingo.
he can't deal with doflamingo..at least for now..one is still a shichibukai,the other still a marine..that's why he said that this is the year of the reverie…only the WG can decide to drop the shichibukai and only then fuji will be able to deal with dofla.
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Can anyone confirm no manga next week?
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there's a reason why said institution has survived till now,even through some incidents like crocodile's coup d'etat at alabasta..it's not something you can decide to dismantle on a whim because someone gave a good speech about how wrong it is.
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he can't deal with doflamingo..at least for now..one is still a shichibukai,the other still a marine..that's why he said that this is the year of the reverie...only the WG can decide to drop the shichibukai and only then fuji will be able to deal with dofla.
On the other hand, I going to guess that Akainu is going to side up with him, and honestly, one admiral is more valuable for WG then the entire Shichibukai. You know why? Because he is more reliable then all of them put together.
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The fact that sabo still uses his pipe makes it less likely for him to get and eat mera mera
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Read the mangastream version, I personally found it much easier to understand: http://readms.com/r/one_piece/735/2223/1
But to clarify: Fujitora knows about Dofla overtaking the country 10 years ago. He will for now be 'blind' about what is happening in the country until the Strawhats and the 'unknown people' (refering to the revolutionaries) are dealt with, because protecting the citizens is the most important. After all of it is over, he will be dealing with Doflamingo.
But does he know all the details really? After all the memory of the people turned into toys is erased. For all Fujitor knows Doflas is an asshole but he treats his country well. The minute he understands what Dofla is really doing he may very well turn on him. In fact I bet you that this might very well be how the Straw Hats win this one. Just when action is at it's peak and Dofla and Futijora are winning the girl will be knocked out and people will revert prompting Fujitora to outright turn on Dofla is just leave him
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REVIEW OF SORTS
[hide]That cover is so frikken adorable just lay me in a coffin already please because this qt is killing me <3
Violet confirmed as Rebecca's aunt.
QUEEN VIOLET? Noice.
…dude.
Queen (or Princess? Mistranslation? Idk) + Mr Prince = holy shit Sanji you could become a King.
...Senor what the fuck....FUJItORAWRWRWRARWR
That was unexpected.
Let me love you.Holy crap Sabo that last page...
You're totally Sabo.
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But does he know all the details really? After all the memory of the people turned into toys is erased. For all Fujitor knows Doflas is an asshole but he treats his country well. The minute he understands what Dofla is really doing he may very well turn on him. In fact I bet you that this might very well be how the Straw Hats win this one. Just when action is at it's peak and Dofla and Futijora are winning the girl will be knocked out and people will revert prompting Fujitora to outright turn on Dofla is just leave him
Why do people think that Fujitora suddenly knows everything about what Doffy is doing and has done in the past?
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Dofla was a bit out of character when he tried to kick Fujitora.
Losing his cool so easily after Fujitora's provocation is not a good point to a kingpin. More so when he is losing his cool to an admiral who could sink the island were he stands.
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On the other hand, I going to guess that Akainu is going to side up with him, and honestly, one admiral is more valuable for WG then the entire Shichibukai. You know why? Because he is more reliable then all of them put together.
marines are just WG subordinates…they are writing the checks for all those warships,pacifista,and the fancy new marine HQ sponsored by mc donalds...so akainu is not really in the position to demand anything...if the WG says "jump" ,akainu is gonna reply "how high?"
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I don't know, when I finished the chapter I was just like when I started it.
Pink sure is hard-boiled.
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The fact that sabo still uses his pipe makes it less likely for him to get and eat mera mera
I don't see how it makes him less likely to have it just because he uses a pipe.
Also, I just want to ask, but is Franky supposed to be a distraction for everyone OUTSIDE of the factory, so that everyone else is completely oblivious on what happens INSIDE the factory? I don't really seem to follow Operation SOP other than scaring the little bitch.
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The fact that sabo still uses his pipe makes it less likely for him to get and eat mera mera
Because it's one of famous 10 high grade steel pipes?
Don't know why logia user would be forbidden to use a weapon. There's that Smoker guy from marines who uses a jitte. Even Ace had a big knife on his belt. Does poison hook ring a bell?
But all that aside, it's possible Sabo doesn't want mera mera for himself.
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marines are just WG subordinates…they are writing the checks for all those warships,pacifista,and the fancy new marine HQ sponsored by mc donalds...so akainu is not really in the position to demand anything...if the WG says "jump" ,akainu is gonna reply "how high?"
Eh. It's certainly true that they have superior authority. But people like Akainu are in a pretty strong bargaining position themselves.
If Fujitora and Akainu both made a motion to leave, that's a huuuuge blow to the WG's powerbase.
Now one might say that the WG could detain them, or kill them, which i suppose they could. But losing them hurts them all the same.
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By the way, Franky ( if not all or some of the Strawhats ) is sure to get a bounty boost. Yay :D
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marines are just WG subordinates…they are writing the checks for all those warships,pacifista,and the fancy new marine HQ sponsored by mc donalds...so akainu is not really in the position to demand anything...if the WG says "jump" ,akainu is gonna reply "how high?"
Yeah, and what exactly will WG do? Stop paying them?
You guys are seriously underestimating the amount of power military leaders have in autoritarian goverments…
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Eh. It's certainly true that they have superior authority. But people like Akainu are in a pretty strong bargaining position themselves.
If Fujitora and Akainu both made a motion to leave, that's a huuuuge blow to the WG's powerbase.
Now one might say that the WG could detain them, or kill them, which i suppose they could. But losing them hurts them all the same.
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I think CP0 will shout at fujitora, and remind him what position he is
Where Gorosei will also shout at akainu and threat him to revoke his title
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Yeah, and what exactly will WG do? Stop paying them?
You guys are seriously underestimating the amount of power military leaders have in autoritarian goverments…
Kill them
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Well it makes you forget who is missing, but I wanted to say that he knows that SOMEONE is missing. But I remember when Fujitora told one of his subordinates to find out how many people lived in dressrosa? Seemed random to me at first, but I think a list of all inhabitants of dressrosa would only make sense if fujitora has a clue that people are disappearing.
Do you mean this particular page?
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It's self explanatory. He's just considering how many resources he needs to have to present to ensure everyone is taken care of. Nothing odd about surveying the situation for that. Plus he's asking for the_amount_, not the names of each and every one of the residents.
They dont loose strenght, but they gain enemies: The schichibukai and the pirates that would have been defeated by the schichibukai. I mean Marineford didnt make the marines stronger… They lost garp, sengoku and aokiji. I sometimes wonder why the new admirals havent been at the war or if they have been but we dont know. However destroying the schichibukai system seems like a overconfident move, considering there are guys like blackbeard, shanks and dragon out there. And while you are right that noone of them was a particular big advantage for the marines, having to face them in the grand line seems like an additional task they would have to manage.
If the marines want to risk the stability of the world and take down one of the three big powers, why not start with the yonkos (of course they cant just destroy all the yonkos but slowly trying to stop them since like a better idea than attacking pirates that arent a danger for the marines anymore).The new admirals were, in a sense, recruited off the streets. They had no obligation to be at marineford when they aren't marines. It's likely their from a random country's fighting force.
Fujitora's reasoning might be that he wants to prevent what happened with Blackbeard. The original intent of the position was that the Shichibukai would help ward off pirates at the government's behest and in return they are granted immunity for their past crimes and they get to keep some of the spoils they may have gained from the assault on the pirates. Literally none of the known Shichibukai follow this rule. Additionally, the Marines have no control over them so whenever they catch a Shichibukai doing something questionable, they have to turn a blind eye (pun not intended, but I'll take credit for it) and they look stupid in front of the people for not being able to do anything due to the Shichibukai answering directly to the government. This sort of falls into Akainu's morality where he considers EVERY pirate as scum, so having the ability to crush anyone without recourse from the government is something he would desire a lot. Also, it's probably significantly easier for the marines to chase down a single Shichibukai's crew compared to the hundreds of allied members that would retaliate if a Yonko is attacked. Fujitora's probably sick of seeing the marines made into a running joke among the Shichibukai's numerous dalliances into illegal activities with the state's blessing.
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Eh. It's certainly true that they have superior authority. But people like Akainu are in a pretty strong bargaining position themselves.
If Fujitora and Akainu both made a motion to leave, that's a huuuuge blow to the WG's powerbase.
Now one might say that the WG could detain them, or kill them, which i suppose they could. But losing them hurts them all the same.
akainu is the guy who made a battle to the death with aokiji "just" to reach his position as fleet admiral ,I don't think he is gonna risk loseing said position just to get rid of shichibukai
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Fujitora grew a lot in my eyes with this chapter~
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Yeah, and what exactly will WG do? Stop paying them?
You guys are seriously underestimating the amount of power military leaders have in autoritarian goverments…
they are just gonna replace them with some other marines who listen to orders.a subordinate who doesn't listen to orders is usell to the cause,no matter how strong he is
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akainu is the guy who made a battle to the death with aokiji "just" to reach his position as fleet admiral ,I don't think he is gonna risk loseing said position just to get rid of shichibukai
One could argue that, or that his very intention with going for the fleet admiral position was to make a cleaner, better, for his pirate hating sense of justice more fitting marine organisation. It's one of those entirely speculative deals.
But the point was more that he ( and all admirals really) do hold some pretty heavy cards.
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Kill them
By the use of who, pray tell? How many people does WG has that can take on two admirals at the same time?
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Fujitora grew a lot in my eyes with this chapter~
I know, one of the few members of the World Government to see how flawed the Shichibukai system is. I also loved the fact he was dissing Doffy about an event where a Shichibukai managed to take over an entire country. Now who do you think he was referring to? obvious sarcasm
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Kinemon saying that it was like a ninja, made me think, what if ninja really exist in OP, why not we have samourai… Even usopp said to nami when she used her electric attack that it was more like a ninja's...
I love fujitora but his dream is too ambitious, what will be the reaction of the WG?
And it's also a smart move from Oda, right now no matter what bad things will happen we are pretty sure that Fujitora will stay Doflamingo's allies and Luffy's enemy, so that bring back the old question... WHO THE HELL CAN STOP FUJITORA?and this is when that "dangerous" person will enter.
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By the use of who, pray tell? How many people does WG has that can take on two admirals at the same time?
Cp0, cp11, kong
They have strong fighters that arent revealed yet, also marines gonna attack akainu also, they replaced admirals like nothing!!!!
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One could argue that, or that his very intention with going for the fleet admiral position was to make a cleaner, better, for his pirate hating sense of justice more fitting marine organisation. It's one of those entirely speculative deals.
But the point was more that he ( and all admirals really) do hold some pretty heavy cards.
if that was the case,sengoku would have argued more against the WG,since he had a sense of justice much more developed than akainu will ever had,and cared about the civilians…instead when the WG made up some stupid shit,he had to deal with it...or just resign like he did after the war.because in the end,they are the ones calling the shots.
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Pacing, reveals, badass art on fujitora (as usual)
You know imma stop giving chapter reviews because they range from 10/10 to 1000/10
This chapter scores a 10/10…. as usual. its a one piece chapter.
welp see you saturday.
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Speculation:
I didn't really think about how Rebecca was going to win over the Colosseum crowd and turn jeers into cheers despite what Oda is implying will happen. Then it hit me that Rebecca will succeed where her grandfather King Riku failed that night: saving her people from harm.
Sabo's cryptic words, his near single-mindedness in pursuing the Mera-mera, and the presence of scenery wreckers like Burgess, Barto and perhaps Diamante suggests that when they go all out the collateral damage will be immense. The audience could be in big trouble as the whole arena gets smashed up. Sabo and Bart are too focused on getting the fruit, Burgess dont care about the audience, nor will Diamante.
Only Becca will see and be able to do something about it. She uses her amazing speed to save the audience members from falling rubble and collapsing pillars. earning their gratitude and becoming the true 'Hero of the Colosseum' in the process.:happy:
…meh better than her winning the Mera-mera on a technicality and somehow this flips a switch in the audience to make them change their hatred of her into adulation lol:ninja:
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Cp0, cp11, kong
They have strong fighters that arent revealed yet, also marines gonna attack akainu also, they replaced admirals like nothing!!!!
Kong is old, CP0 aren't confirmed fighters and I've never heard of CP11.
I'd think a lot of the marines would side with Akainu if he went against WG. But it probably won't happen.
WG itself is probably thinking about disbanding Shichibukai, seeing how unreliable they are. And if they do gain the upper hand in New World, they won't need Shichibukai to balance things out.
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Cp0, cp11, kong
They have strong fighters that arent revealed yet, also marines gonna attack akainu also, they replaced admirals like nothing!!!!
No proof of CP0 being any powerhouses of fighting strenght, only their inteligence powers.
You've made CP11 up.
Kong is one guy, that's older than freaking Whitebeard at that.
I do not consider international military draft from over 170 nations to be nothing. Especially since it yeld only two Admiral class fighters.
Why Marines would side with Gorosei in defence of freaking Shichibukai?
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Thought of Fujitora comment of being blind to the crimes of Doffy:
As Fujitora has a Black/white look upon justice, he knows that what Doflamingo does is wrong. But as Doffy is part of the Shichibukai system, being 'white' in the eyes of higher ups in the chain of command, he has to look the other way, otherwise he risk his position of admiral. He may not like it, but he has to.
However, if he could remove the shichibukai sytem, the pirates currently protected with this system would go 'black' and thus accepteble targets. The reson he doesn't do that now is having OTHER plans that he wishes to make reality and risking of losing his position at the moment would be bad.
The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.
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For the first time in months, i didn't read the spoilers~!!!
Ditto!! Great chapter though. Glad I didn't spoil it!! Will Sabo finally be revealed next week!! Come on Oda!! Stop teasing!!
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they are just gonna replace them with some other marines who listen to orders.a subordinate who doesn't listen to orders is usell to the cause,no matter how strong he is
By that you mean that Shichibukai as a whole are useless.
Seriously. You are saying that they will get rid of Sakazuki because he doesn't listem to them, to keep Shichibukai, who also don't listem to them. What?
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Thought of Fujitora comment of being blind to the crimes of Doffy:
As Fujitora has a Black/white look upon justice, he knows that what Doflamingo does is wrong. But as Doffy is part of the Shichibukai system, being 'white' in the eyes of higher ups in the chain of command, he has to look the other way, otherwise he risk his position of admiral. He may not like it, but he has to.
However, if he could remove the shichibukai sytem, the pirates currently protected with this system would go 'black' and thus accepteble targets. The reson he doesn't do that now is having OTHER plans that he wishes to make reality and risking of losing his position at the moment would be bad.
nah,i think it's only that he can'0't openly attack a shichibukai,because they are still protected by the government,but if the government decides against the shichibukai system at this year'ss reverie,THEN he is gonna go against doflamingo.
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Cp0, cp11, kong
They have strong fighters that arent revealed yet, also marines gonna attack akainu also, they replaced admirals like nothing!!!!
Kong is pretty old already. And what the hell is CP11?
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Well this should mean that we will be seeing the 7th shichibukai not too long from now, and before the reverie.
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if that was the case,sengoku would have argued more against the WG,since he had a sense of justice much more developed than akainu will ever had,and cared about the civilians…instead when the WG made up some stupid shit,he had to deal with it...or just resign like he did after the war.because in the end,they are the ones calling the shots.
And him, Aokiji and Garp leaving absolutely put a huge dent in their powerbase.
One that had to be filled using the unprecedented means of global conscription.
For that matter i'd feel pretty comfortable arguing that Akainu's hate of pirates was atleast equal to Sengoku's care about the world lol.
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I'll be honest with you guys, I think Shichibukai are going down.
It would be pointless to bring it up as a motivation for such important figure like Fuji otherwise.
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What do you guys think about the new ring? Is it like this to make the final fight more dangerous or are there some special rules for the final?
Something like in the Legend of Korra. I'm thinking maybe the central circle is for Diamante and platforms on each side are for the 4 finalists.
