One Piece 721 : Rebecca and Mr. Soldier

desa

Personally, I don't think a character who really wants to kill someone, and is being hyped uped necessarily looses any personality if it were to turn out he couldn't beat a character who's being downplayed. Exactly what character development would he be getting if he actually got close to killing Luffy anyway?

There's only two things about Caven character: he's a strong swordsman, he hates the rookies from 2 years ago. With

Rebecca on the other hand is a princess who wants to help the one who have raise her by taking out the evil boss.

Rebecca haven't show anything that puts her on a NW level strong while Cavendish is wielding Durandal and stopped Chinjao on his track.

Rebecca have taken out by Luffy busy eating while usually he is a way to show how well a character can fight. Cavendish while not getting the upper hand on him is still keeping a good performance when face with him.

In the end I think that Rebecca doesn't need to be weak but simply needs to be weaker than Cavendish. Cavendish needs the hype he gets so that he doesn't turn into being ridiculous agaisnt Luffy or the others from two years ago for the matter. He gets to be love because he's both a show of strength (fruitless swordsman doing well in NW) and a comic relief(kill the ex-rookies).

Rebecca is appreciate for her backstory and determination. And the maximum of strength people required from her is the one need to take down or put a good against Dofla's minion. Not necessary to beat Caven to achieve that.

labmate

I came home from school, played the piano, got a snack and came on here expecting to get spoilers for 721. What a pleasant surprise this was.

What a nice little flash back chapter. Not too long, and gave us all we needed to know about Rebecca(for the time being).

Also, thanks C3.

Spicy Chicken

Glad we got this chapter out of the way. Now we can get moving!

senor

OK so she's obviously going to eat the mera mera no mi… and then become the countries new queen/protector

Swordsman LUCY

@desa:

There's only two things about Caven character: he's a strong swordsman, he hates the rookies from 2 years ago. With

Rebecca on the other hand is a princess who wants to help the one who have raise her by taking out the evil boss.

Rebecca haven't show anything that puts her on a NW level strong while Cavendish is wielding Durandal and stopped Chinjao on his track.

I know that Cavediah has been hyped enough to supposedly be stronger than Chinjao, but I think we should wait until his actual fight before we assume it would be out of character for him to be weaker than we expect (I don't think his one display against Chinjao is enough, personally).

Triceron

That look of determination in Luffy's eyes in that last panel

It makes me think that he'll interrupt the Block D fight with his CoC powers to protect Rebecca. He'll inadvertently knock out a whole bunch of the contestants and piss of Cavendish even more!

MetaMario

Caribou….attacks Scotch?!

Man oh man, was I anticipating a chapter like this. There's much to be explored in the history of Dressrosa, and Rebecca and the Toy Soldier are two such elements.

It was a tough life for Rebecca; her mother was on the run, they experienced poverty....and she saw the only family she had lie dead in some toy's arms. Poor kid. :(

But then the Soldier vows to protect Rebecca, stay by her side, and live their lives together as much as they can. Best part was when he beat up her suitors, hahaha. Meanwhile, it's interesting to see that little hint of Doflamingo's arrival.....his regime replaces Rikus and he vows to give the people wealth. Of course, while people do respect the guy, this chapter continues to point to the hatred some people have for him.

Even after becoming a wanted man, the Soldier does not flee. What a great guy.....and what a satisfying flashback. There's more to be told, yes, but for now, this does a good job at starting to paint the big picture. Can't wait for more!

Rebecca entering the arena, even with all the boos her way.......damn. I officially want her to win D Block now! C'mon, you can do it!

(interesting to note Luffy's starting to get pissed. A step in the right direction to get Luffy invested in pummeling Doflamingo, but I think the plights of the Soldier, Bellamy, and anyone else significant would contribute greatly)

Swordsman LUCY

Oh yeah I forgot to comment on Scotch, not having Haki is one thing, but that's just pathetic. No way he took Drake any time to beat at all.

CCC

@brennen.exe:

While on the topic of royalty, other translations have “Run away, Scarlet-sama!!!” while yours does not; I noticed you included the honorific for Doflamingo later, so I don't know if other translators just assumed and inserted it or if you missed it.

Nah, didn't miss it, and they're not wrong. It was an actual decision. Honestly not sure why at this point ha ha.

Will fix.

Piitan

@senor:

OK so she's obviously going to eat the mera mera no mi… and then become the countries new queen/protector

As someone pointed out in some other thread I can't remember, giving Rebecca the Mera Mera would just mean turning her into a target for BB and his crew. Without the SH or someone strong, she'd be killed quite easily.

Swordsman LUCY

@senor:

OK so she's obviously going to eat the mera mera no mi… and then become the countries new queen/protector

I don't think Oda's going to give it to her just for her to effectively take it out of the story by staying in Dressrosa. I think he had a better reason for bringing it back than just having DD tempt Luffy.

Tobi92

Chapter is out.
http://powermanga.forumcommunity.net/?t=54999065#entry385030945

Add this link in the first post if possible.

Enzeru

@Tobi92:

Chapter is out.
http://powermanga.forumcommunity.net/?t=54999065#entry385030945

Add this link in the first post if possible.

Haven't seen the chapter yet since it's not up on batoto at this point, but did you manage to include all those changes that were made during the last hour or so? Just curious.

Medical Orbit

When Doflamingo is giving his inauguration speech, we see with him Trebol and another person. Could anyone tell who the other person was? I assume Diamante, but it's too zoomed-out for me to see him clearly.

Tobi92

@Enzeru:

Haven't seen the chapter yet since it's not up on batoto at this point, but did you manage to include all those changes that were made during the last hour or so? Just curious.

Yes, they are included.

RKTGX95

@Enzeru:

Haven't seen the chapter yet since it's not up on batoto at this point, but did you manage to include all those changes that were made during the last hour or so? Just curious.

This?
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/192468/one-piece_ch721_by_powermanga

Hanauta

@Piitan:

As someone pointed out in some other thread I can't remember, giving Rebecca the Mera Mera would just mean turning her into a target for BB and his crew. Without the SH or someone strong, she'd be killed quite easily.

instead of Rebecca eating the fruit, i prefer a dwarf eats it and joins the sh's:)

Enzeru

@Tobi92:

Yes, they are included.

Most impressive.
But it's not quite right. On page eight C3 changed the wording of Scarlet and Rebecca's conversation and went with something more suitable to the situation. That one you missed. It's nothing too major, though, I guess.

Anyway, thanks for doing this every week, buddy. It's really appreciated.

Piitan

@Hanauta:

instead of Rebecca eating the fruit, i prefer a dwarf eats it and joins the sh's:)

How about no?

16 chars.

Swordsman LUCY

If anyone ends up eating the fruit and staying relevant, I hope they use it in a creative manner. Since the time skip, fire attacks are surprisingly common.

Nautilus

I really enjoyed this chapter, seeing how protective the toy solider is over Rebecca warmed my heart. Although now I really believe that Rebecca will not be joining the crew, she will most likely stay in Dressrosa to rule over the kingdom. That is if Doflamingo is cast out of power. Side Note: Diamante looked awesome for that one panel he was in.

Swordsman LUCY

@Nautilus:

I really enjoyed this chapter, seeing how protective the toy solider

No kidding, lil bro shot up the house…

Nautilus

@Swordsman:

No kidding, lil bro shot up the house…

I loved the scene were he beat up the boy trying to give Rebecca the love letter/card. To me that proved that he was more of a protective father then a love interest.

Drake_Cloud

@Piitan:

As someone pointed out in some other thread I can't remember, giving Rebecca the Mera Mera would just mean turning her into a target for BB and his crew. Without the SH or someone strong, she'd be killed quite easily.

Well, I'm betting Dressrosa is going to get claimed by Luffy after this arc is over (and that this is going to be a pattern), which should give her enough protection. BB's after the Mera Mera cause right now its low-risk-high-reward. As far as he knows, the only thing that could go wrong is that Burgess doesn't get the fruit, and comes back empty handed.

However, attacking an entire country (that would inevitably produce a WG reaction as well as a SH one) just to get one DF is far more likely to blow up in BB's face. There has to be easier ways to get stronger DFs, and Blackbeard only need 8 or so to give to his crew. Besides, depending on how they get the DFs, they might try taking some from the beaten members of the DD family as a consolation prize.

Tobi92

@Enzeru:

Most impressive.
But it's not quite right. On page eight C3 changed the wording of Scarlet and Rebecca's conversation and went with something more suitable to the situation. That one you missed. It's nothing too major, though, I guess.

Anyway, thanks for doing this every week, buddy. It's really appreciated.

Fixed.

If there is something else to correct just tell me.

Hanauta

@Piitan:

How about no?

16 chars.

anyway is way better then rebecca eating it.

Piitan

@Drake_Cloud:

However, attacking an entire country (that would inevitably produce a WG reaction as well as a SH one)

If DR is claimed by Luffy, I don't think the WG would intervene to defende it from BB. They might try to conquer it back, but not help a queen that's loyal to the son of the most dangerous man on the planet.

@Hanauta:

anyway is way better then rebecca eating it.

I don't know… I really don't like the dwarfs. None of 'em :(

Hanauta

@Piitan:

If DR is claimed by Luffy, I don't think the WG would intervene to defende it from BB. They might try to conquer it back, but not help a queen that's loyal to the son of the most dangerous man on the planet.

I don't know… I really don't like the dwarfs. None of 'em :(

i guess, but sofar we know little about those dwarfs. personaly i like wicca more than rebecca atm. zoro will never get lost! and she has an interesting personality. tho the dwarf princess might be better(who knows:p)
with a dwarf joining the sh's they have an other unique character with them. a human/female with a sad past, isnt something new.(Robin/nami)

would be also interesting to see a dwarf with logia fire powers, with their speed + fire attacks.

Enzeru

You're right. If the random dwarf girl joined, she could play with Violet, Baby 5, Monet, Shirahoshi, Perona and all the other chars that didn't and will never join. =D

Piitan

Well, I think it's kinda silly to go for a "X would be more interesting than Y" challange, but Imma do it.
I think Mr. Soldier with the Mera Mera would kick asses just by staring at people. How freaking awesome would a one-legged on fire toy be?

desa

@Drake_Cloud:

Well, I'm betting Dressrosa is going to get claimed by Luffy after this arc is over (and that this is going to be a pattern), which should give her enough protection. BB's after the Mera Mera cause right now its low-risk-high-reward. As far as he knows, the only thing that could go wrong is that Burgess doesn't get the fruit, and comes back empty handed.

However, attacking an entire country (that would inevitably produce a WG reaction as well as a SH one) just to get one DF is far more likely to blow up in BB's face. There has to be easier ways to get stronger DFs, and Blackbeard only need 8 or so to give to his crew. Besides, depending on how they get the DFs, they might try taking some from the beaten members of the DD family as a consolation prize.

If one of the Blackbeard come to kill her I doubt WG would be notice on time to resue her. And Wg surely won't fight a yonkou just for that.

Devil G.

!

The last chapter had already moved me, but this one only makes me love Soldier-san even more. He's already one of my favourites, what a great character.

shinpanman

Nope, just can't bring myself to care about Rebecca. She's probably the most bland female we've encountered yet in both design and personality. You'd expect a gladiator to have a bit more toughness to them. The soldier on the other hand is a pretty cool guy.

Ace 4

That flashback was pretty good. I still can't believe Oda was able to fit the entire thing in one chapter.

Baldulf

Rebecca's flashback story feels a bit early. We barely knew nothing about her and she has already become the princess in distress of this kingdom.

I mean, we get it: Bibi, Hancock, Shirahoshi and now Rebecca…but the One Piece is in another castle.

Hanauta

@Piitan:

Well, I think it's kinda silly to go for a "X would be more interesting than Y" challange, but Imma do it.
I think Mr. Soldier with the Mera Mera would kick asses just by staring at people. How freaking awesome would a one-legged on fire toy be?

you know that those toys might not stay like that forever?
so SOL will turn into 1 leg human(if he is not a real toy, who knows:p. probably not!:))

@Enzeru:

You're right. If the random dwarf girl joined, she could play with Violet, Baby 5, Monet, Shirahoshi, Perona and all the other chars that didn't and will never join. =D

violet:
not bad character but dont want her to join, we will get too much flirting with sanji… and there is still a possiblity that she Lied to sanji to get more information about the plan of the sh's and forexample where they will meet up.

Baby5
cool ability, but dont see any reason why she would join the sh's. she seems to be loyal to don. and again we will get too much sh.. with sanji(im needed... haha:p)

shirahoshi
i guess she might be a future sh, since they made a promise with her. tho i think might happend after they find One Piece or someone kidnap her.

Perona
realy thought she would join them back at SA. the problem might be her ability, and chopper:p

about monet, i think she suites Law's crew better(just a feeling/thought.). there are still a few questions about her unanswered.

sorry about the long post, maybe its me over thinking things.

Drake_Cloud

@desa:

If one of the Blackbeard come to kill her I doubt WG would be notice on time to resue her. And Wg surely won't fight a yonkou just for that.

How on earth would a Yonkou invading a WG country and killing its rightful ruler not provoke a reaction from the WG? That's pretty high up on the list of "Things Governments care about". They have to play the PR game to keep support, and ignoring what would be a brutal attack on one of their member countries would make them look incompetent.

And yes, while the WG would not get there in time to stop it, its the threat of retaliation that matters. Destabilizing Dressrosa (again) is GOING to produce a WG response, which is likely going to have major repercussions in the new world and elsewhere. Its not something you do just to get one DF.

Piitan

@Drake_Cloud:

How on earth would a Yonkou invading a WG country and killing its rightful ruler not provoke a reaction from the WG?

But you do realize that if Dofla falls and Rebecca becomes queen, and if Luffy claims DR to be under his control, the WG won't consider DR as its country, right?

Hanauta

@Drake_Cloud:

Well, I'm betting Dressrosa is going to get claimed by Luffy after this arc is over (and that this is going to be a pattern), which should give her enough protection. BB's after the Mera Mera cause right now its low-risk-high-reward. As far as he knows, the only thing that could go wrong is that Burgess doesn't get the fruit, and comes back empty handed.

However, attacking an entire country (that would inevitably produce a WG reaction as well as a SH one) just to get one DF is far more likely to blow up in BB's face. There has to be easier ways to get stronger DFs, and Blackbeard only need 8 or so to give to his crew. Besides, depending on how they get the DFs, they might try taking some from the beaten members of the DD family as a consolation prize.

i dont think luffy has enough fame to claim anything atm. i think he atleast needs to be a yonkou to do that.

i think you also give the WG too much credit, they wont care that much a country. specialy one that gets protection from a pirate.

Shadowgreed

you saw Sanji on the ring?

Ace 4

@Baldulf:

Rebecca's flashback story feels a bit early. We barely knew nothing about her and she has already become the princess in distress of this kingdom.

I mean, we get it: Bibi, Hancock, Shirahoshi and now Rebecca…but the One Piece is in another castle.

The flashback wasn't too early, it was at the right time. We needed to know the reason why she's doing all this for the soldier. Her status was mentioned because of how the crowd reacted to her. It wasn't out of the blue for all. Some people actually guessed she was a princess.

Shadowgreed

@Hanauta:

i dont think luffy has enough fame to claim anything atm. i think he atleast needs to be a yonkou to do that.

i think you also give the WG too much credit, they wont care that much a country. specialy one that gets protection from a pirate.

What are you talking about, Luffy has enough fame to claim a country and to be feared by other pirates and the WG also claim countries so they won't take lightly a country that is claimed by a pirate

Drake_Cloud

@Piitan:

But you do realize that if Dofla falls and Rebecca becomes queen, and if Luffy claims DR to be under his control, the WG won't consider DR as its country, right?

Why wouldn't it? Fishman island was still part of the WG despite Whitebeard claiming the island as his turf.

And even if we assume they wouldn't care, then Luffy just doesn't claim it. WG has no reason to deny them protection and BB still has to risk a major war to go after her.

Hanauta

@Shadowgreed:

What are you talking about, Luffy has enough fame to claim a country and to be feared by other pirates and the WG also claim countries so they won't take lightly a country that is claimed by a pirate

yeah right, some ppl think he is a 8 meter giant. and some Bounty hunter who was so weak thought he could beat him. and Cabbage thinks he can kill him. when the marines went to capture him, they send a pacifista/sentoumaru.
his name might scare some weaklings(in the NW), but others might see it as an opportunity to kill/capture him.

@Drake_Cloud:

Why wouldn't it? Fishman island was still part of the WG despite Whitebeard claiming the island as his turf.

And even if we assume they wouldn't care, then Luffy just doesn't claim it. WG has no reason to deny them protection and BB still has to risk a major war to go after her.

and we saw how much protection wg provides… thats why they had big mom's mark?

abyssal_snarf

i had a thought that what happened with scarlet being carried by soldier to deliver rebecca food will happen present day but with soldier dead and the food being the mera. maybe luffy carrying him

brennen.exe

@Drake_Cloud:

How on earth would a Yonkou invading a WG country and killing its rightful ruler not provoke a reaction from the WG? That's pretty high up on the list of "Things Governments care about". They have to play the PR game to keep support, and ignoring what would be a brutal attack on one of their member countries would make them look incompetent. And yes, while the WG would not get there in time to stop it, its the threat of retaliation that matters. Destabilizing Dressrosa (again) is GOING to produce a WG response, which is likely going to have major repercussions in the new world and elsewhere. Its not something you do just to get one DF.

Unrelated to your actual discussion, and excluding Doflamingo's status as a Warlord, is there any reason to assume Dressrosa is allied with the World Government? I mean, given the state of the New World.

Shadowgreed

@Hanauta:

yeah right, some ppl think he is a 8 meter giant. and some Bounty hunter who was so weak thought he could beat him. and Cabbage thinks he can kill him. when the marines went to capture him, they send a pacifista/sentoumaru.
his name might scare some weaklings(in the NW), but others might see it as an opportunity to kill/capture him.

This is One Piece, rumors are always like that, Marines didn't know about Whitebeard's power, they didn't know shit about the guy but they were afraid of him just by hearing his name, Didn't Crocodile think he could kill whitebeard?

When the Marines went to capture them, they sent the Pacifistas a new power that could handle any paradise pirate including the ones with a bounty of over 100M, Sentoumaru and Kizaru, so what's your point?

And yeah as of now his name only scares small fries in the NW but after all this is done, his name will start scaring more than small fries

labmate

@Hanauta:

violet:
not bad character but dont want her to join, we will get too much flirting with sanji… and there is still a possiblity that she Lied to sanji to get more information about the plan of the sh's and forexample where they will meet up.

Baby5
cool ability, but dont see any reason why she would join the sh's. she seems to be loyal to don. and again we will get too much sh.. with sanji(im needed... haha:p)

shirahoshi
i guess she might be a future sh, since they made a promise with her. tho i think might happend after they find One Piece or someone kidnap her.

Perona
realy thought she would join them back at SA. the problem might be her ability, and chopper:p

about monet, i think she suites Law's crew better(just a feeling/thought.). there are still a few questions about her unanswered.

That fact that you answered such a sarcastic post(that was directed towards you) so seriously is just hilarious.

mr.french

This chapter made me wonder more about what the Dwarve (Gancho) said about their conflict with the Donquixote Family being 900 years old. It's also going to explain why Doflamingo chose Dresrosa to be his island of choice to rule over. Over-all I think the chapter was done nicely to encapsulate Rebecca's past, quickly and soundly. I do think a lot is kept from her, in terms of information about the toys and so on. I would have expected her to know who the Soldier really was by now, but I guess there is a reason for that? And a long-term question… How are the citizens going to turn their hatred from Rebecca and her father towards Doflamingo? One last remark about the chapter. Luffy's anger at the end. I would have expected more of a heavily stern look of like, "What's all this about?" with slightly squinted eyes, rather than a look of extreme anger like, "WTF STOP HATING!"

Supernova122

@brennen.exe:

Unrelated to your actual discussion, and excluding Doflamingo's status as a Warlord, is there any reason to assume Dressrosa is allied with the World Government? I mean, given the state of the New World.

This. Imagine Doflamingo at Reverie. He wouldn't even sit on his chair!