Chapter 717: "The Forgotten of Dressrosa"
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@•Ace•:
Really? I just searched fruits that have been shown and the ones I saw all have swirly designs.
Fruits that have swirls: Luffy's, Teach's(YAMI YAMI NO MI), Kaku's, Kalifa's, Ace's, Smiley's, and Buggy's.
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Thats a smile fruit, no swirly= fake one.
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Wonder if Kaido is also a smile user? Or did his rise precede the invention of those
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This the difference between Vegapenk artificial fruit and CC artificial fruit
if you notice Vegapunk one has swirly on top.And real Devilfruits have swirly all around them
Big MoM ate - 2012
CC for nakama.
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Thats a SMILE fruit with ring patterns, not swirls. CC's are a knockoff of a knockoff.
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This the difference between Vegapenk artificial fruit and CC artificial fruit http://i.imgur.com/JHWnu6S.png if you notice Vegapunk one has swirly on top.
And real Devilfruits have swirly all around them https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShP3Bcc5AUUQkioGwhwQsTRpjhqhCJQkgxTJCXZ0wRyFjYOWTYkA
I'm sure there's some significance to the swirls.
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@wolfwoof:
Wonder if Kaido is also a smile user? Or did his rise precede the invention of those
I would guess not, as it does seem SMILE is a relativity new thing that came around a few years ago.
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I don't think Law ever said that only the Strawhearts alliance would tackle Kaidou.
He could be counting on another group to join the fray.
This makes me wonder, what does Law's crew doing at Zou? This leads me to further wonder what Kinemon is seeking for there. maybe Zou is like a mini HQ of Kaido that is either second after his favorite island were Scotch is, or Zou is Kaido's favorite Island. I'd love the latter to happen because it would tie a few things together very well, but i don't really mind either of those.
Furthermore, it sounds to me like Kaido's rule of the new world quite fragile if he depends on fake DFs that may be temporary. Even BB that came from no where 2 years ago as a yonko is way stronger than Kaido. (though it is obvious plot wise).
I know it was asked before, but could you stack a SMILE on another devil fruit? i predict that it is more possible than just 2 (real) DFs but the side effects are strongly apparent (like maybe the second fake DF will give a weaker power up than on its own or something) -
I suggest we go to the official Smiley and Devil fruits thread (if not existing , somebody create) because there are simply too much we can think and write here which is gonna be pretty much pointless.Better get them gathered somewhere and also , i bet that all of us are wrong till now :D
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So I really hate to be that guy but will there be a chapter this week?
HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
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So I really hate to be that guy but will there be a chapter this week?
No, we are on the annual break of WSJ because of the holiday (which i don't know its name) and it's the reason we got a color spread last chapter and the last chapter was considered a "double issue" because of the break.
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This makes me wonder, what does Law's crew doing at Zou? This leads me to further wonder what Kinemon is seeking for there. maybe Zou is like a mini HQ of Kaido that is either second after his favorite island were Scotch is, or Zou is Kaido's favorite Island. I'd love the latter to happen because it would tie a few things together very well, but i don't really mind either of those.
Furthermore, it sounds to me like Kaido's rule of the new world quite fragile if he depends on fake DFs that may be temporary. Even BB that came from no where 2 years ago as a yonko is way stronger than Kaido. (though it is obvious plot wise).
I know it was asked before, but could you stack a SMILE on another devil fruit? i predict that it is more possible than just 2 (real) DFs but the side effects are strongly apparent (like maybe the second fake DF will give a weaker power up than on its own or something)Hybrids between two different animals would be a cool thing to have.
Ocean Guide
"The ocean sees the beginning of the world,
and the ocean knows the end of the world.
Thus, it calls us towards the way we must take.
Thus, it leads us towards a proper world."
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@•Ace•:
Hybrids between two different animals would be a cool thing to have.
Though we do have pekoms, but i'm not sure of what exactly he is. he could have a smile on top of a turtle DF but that means that DD also sells to Big mom and it is hard to believe Kaido would want and allow that to DD. Maybe Kaido stacked himself so much he is like super strong, but if the smiles are temporary then you can see what Law's angle is in this arc…
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Though we do have pekoms, but i'm not sure of what exactly he is. he could have a smile on top of a turtle DF but that means that DD also sells to Big mom and it is hard to believe Kaido would want and allow that to DD. Maybe Kaido stacked himself so much he is like super strong, but if the smiles are temporary then you can see what Law's angle is in this arc…
Pekoms is probably like, Papagu. He's obviously a lion though. And it seems to me that he has eaten some sort of turtle zoan DF, maybe. :p
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It's very probable that Pekoms is the same species as Bepo.
A Minkman, to be exact.
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Though we do have pekoms, but i'm not sure of what exactly he is. he could have a smile on top of a turtle DF but that means that DD also sells to Big mom and it is hard to believe Kaido would want and allow that to DD. Maybe Kaido stacked himself so much he is like super strong, but if the smiles are temporary then you can see what Law's angle is in this arc…
Did we ever confirm that Kaidou was the one getting Smiles? I forgot most of punk hazard already.
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I'm sure there's some significance to the swirls.
Hey!! You, sit right there!! Now listen!! Everyone lives in circles!! The sun, the moon, and the earth all spin around!! And!! If the earth suddenly stopped spinning!! It would be a disaster, tidal waves everywhere!! Now remember that the swirls channels that circular energy!! Reflect upon this!! You may go!!
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Did we ever confirm that Kaidou was the one getting Smiles? I forgot most of punk hazard already.
Yes and I believe Big Mam has some too. I could be wrong about the BigMam part.
Ocean Guide
"The ocean sees the beginning of the world,
and the ocean knows the end of the world.
Thus, it calls us towards the way we must take.
Thus, it leads us towards a proper world."
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Big Mom doesn't have SMILES, but she was interested in Shinokuni.
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@•Ace•:
Hey!! You, sit right there!! Now listen!! Everyone lives in circles!! The sun, the moon, and the earth all spin around!! And!! If the earth suddenly stopped spinning!! It would be a disaster, tidal waves everywhere!! Now remember that the swirls channels that circular energy!! Reflect upon this!! You may go!!
Hahaha… ^.^
I heard that somewhere before :3 -
sanji is a living form of devil fruit. eat him and you'll get ecchi ecchi no mi ability…
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Can you choose what type of power the SMILE will have or is it randomized? And could you duplicate the same power since its an artificial creation and not the real deal?
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To be fair, I never considered pells survival as imposible until I started reading this forum. Heck even after, I just went with the "This guy is pretty damn tough"/ "Its a mysterious character" mindset , so I´m really not giving any justification, I´m just saying what I feel now and at that time. Monet on the other hand, due to how she was portrayed at the stabbing moment and how it was played out, having her alive would feel (at least for me) like a Big fiasco. I guess, I base my feelings in the expressions of those in front of deaths door.
Fair enough. To me, it was an atrocious move of epic proportions, probably one of the worst things I've ever seen in an anime, which is weird considering it's from one of my favorites. I was genuinely mad when I found out he was alive, esp since this was before I came to the realization that Oda likes fake killing characters as some type of bad parody. Good on you for spotting that he wouldn't die though.
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Fair enough. To me, it was an atrocious move of epic proportions, probably one of the worst things I've ever seen in an anime, which is weird considering it's from one of my favorites. I was genuinely mad when I found out he was alive, esp since this was before I came to the realization that Oda likes fake killing characters as some type of bad parody. Good on you for spotting that he wouldn't die though.
Actually there's plenty of good reasoning behind him living from that explosion. Only a simpleton would think it's stupid that he survived because their minds can't comprehend what happened.
You must realize that he's not a normal human. Explosions as such as those are only capable of killing normal people. Pell has a strong body and has obviously surpassed the human limits. being in the air an explosion first sends you flying due to the shock wave/air pressure. At the same time he can move faster than normal people can see so that means he can react fast to explosions. That means he could have tried flying away from it right before it completely exploded. I'm not sure if I remember right but wasn't there a cloud blocking him and the bomb when it exploded? Oda doesn't show the death blow because he plans to bring those people back. Him having a strong body makes it so that the bomb can't do enough damage to kill him. It's always safe to assume a bomb would kill you though.
The same can be said about, Sabo. His death blow wasn't shown which means there's no proof that he's dead. It also means that, Oda plans to bring him back. To top it off, Oda gave a good hint that he's still alive thanks to, Luffy's father. Sabo, surpassed the humans normal limits so his body was stronger than a normal humans. The bomb that hit him was small since it was only a cannon and to top it off the cannon wasn't directly aimed at him. The best a cannon ball could do to him is push him to the edge of his life. Dragon standing in the crowd watching it happen wouldn't just stand there. He'd obviously go out swim and save the poor kid.
Keep in mind that people like Pell and sabo are super human. They aren't weak like us. The bomb that Pell took into the air would have definitely killed, Sabo though since it's stronger than a cannon ball. -
Actually there's plenty of good reasoning behind him living from that explosion. Only a simpleton would think it's stupid that he survived because their minds can't comprehend what happened.
You must realize that he's not a normal human. Explosions as such as those are only capable of killing normal people. Pell has a strong body and has obviously surpassed the human limits. being in the air an explosion first sends you flying due to the shock wave/air pressure. At the same time he can move faster than normal people can see so that means he can react fast to explosions. That means he could have tried flying away from it right before it completely exploded. I'm not sure if I remember right but wasn't there a cloud blocking him and the bomb when it exploded? Oda doesn't show the death blow because he plans to bring those people back. Him having a strong body makes it so that the bomb can't do enough damage to kill him. It's always safe to assume a bomb would kill you though.
The same can be said about, Sabo. His death blow wasn't shown which means there's no proof that he's dead. It also means that, Oda plans to bring him back. To top it off, Oda gave a good hint that he's still alive thanks to, Luffy's father. Sabo, surpassed the humans normal limits so his body was stronger than a normal humans. The bomb that hit him was small since it was only a cannon and to top it off the cannon wasn't directly aimed at him. The best a cannon ball could do to him is push him to the edge of his life. Dragon standing in the crowd watching it happen wouldn't just stand there. He'd obviously go out swim and save the poor kid.
Keep in mind that people like Pell and sabo are super human. They aren't weak like us. The bomb that Pell took into the air would have definitely killed, Sabo though since it's stronger than a cannon ball.Good to know. From now on if anyone throws a bomb at me, I'll just make sure to pull out a cloud to protect me.
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Good to know. From now on if anyone throws a bomb at me, I'll just make sure to pull out a cloud to protect me.
If you're not joking around you're clearly a simpleton. If you didn't understand what I was saying read the sentence after it and burn into your tiny little brain until you understand where your stupidity failed. If you can't understand even after that then you need to go seek a doctor. I'm sure you must have read the sentence after it as well which makes you look even worse… Try a 3rd time.
No one is stupid enough to believe a cloud would protect them from a bomb. So when that thought comes to mind common sense would tell them to read again to see if they're misunderstanding what they read. You clearly didn't do so because you don't have enough common sense to allow such.
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I'm gonna hop on the Good Ship Chinjao-lost-his-memory. Or maybe just parts of it. Quotes like “I don’t wish to recall the past!!!” and “Answer me!! What did Garp do to me!!?” might support that. There seems to be a lot of amnesia going around in this arc. Could it be related?
I also noticed that both the dwarves and Doflamingo seem to be very handy with string. Maybe Doflamingo carries around dwarves that fight for him. :ninja:
sorry if I brought up a discussion that's already been had. I'm very new here. :)
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If you're not joking around you're clearly a simpleton. If you didn't understand what I was saying read the sentence after it and burn into your tiny little brain until you understand where your stupidity failed. If you can't understand even after that then you need to go seek a doctor. I'm sure you must have read the sentence after it as well which makes you look even worse… Try a 3rd time.
No one is stupid enough to believe a cloud would protect them from a bomb. So when that thought comes to mind common sense would tell them to read again to see if they're misunderstanding what they read. You clearly didn't do so because you don't have enough common sense to allow such.
Eh are you kidding? This has to be some kind of a joke right?…
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Eh are you kidding? This has to be some kind of a joke right?…
Sorry but I only joke when I'm bored.
Just try to use your brain more thoroughly next time. -
This is weird. It's like watching two drunken folks shoot cannonballs at each other and completely missing.
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If the only thing that says that the DF eaten by momonosuke is the words of those guards, then they may not be true, Those are the guys who believed ceaser is their savior, So we can't conform that the DF was made by Vegapunk. For all we know what momo ate might be a smile of caeser, and he just lied to his subordinates about it being Vegapunk's.Why? Maybe because it was a supposedly failure fruit..
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This is weird. It's like watching two drunken folks shoot cannonballs at each other and completely missing.
You have a strange imagination. I don't even see how that works.
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If the only thing that says that the DF eaten by momonosuke is the words of those guards, then they may not be true, Those are the guys who believed ceaser is their savior, So we can't conform that the DF was made by Vegapunk. For all we know what momo ate might be a smile of caeser, and he just lied to his subordinates about it being Vegapunk's.Why? Maybe because it was a supposedly failure fruit..
Exactly why would CC put a failure of his on display?
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And we know its not CC's. The one that was stated to be Vegapunks looks different. It has a swirly stem unlike the SMILES.
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@•Ace•:
Exactly why would CC put a failure of his on display?
why he put it in display?? It was never confirmed to be a failure fruit, It is supposed to be a failure,we don't know for sure if it is really a failure or success unless we have other conformation than the words of the sheep soldiers and that was not the important part, What I wanted to say was not if the fruit is failure or not, its if the fruit is Vegapunk's or not. –- Update From New Post Merge --- @•Ace•:
Exactly why would CC put a failure of his on display? –- Update From New Post Merge --- And we know its not CC's. The one that was stated to be Vegapunks looks different. It has a swirly stem unlike the SMILES.
Ya there are two types of artificial fruits one with swirly stem and one without that, maybe its a earlier version of CC's.. All I am saying is never believe words of those sheep guards or any normal citizens in the universe of One Piece as they are usually rumors…
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why he put it in display?? It was never confirmed to be a failure fruit, It is supposed to be a failure,we don't know for sure if it is really a failure or success unless we have other conformation than the words of the sheep soldiers and that was not the important part, What I wanted to say was not if the fruit is failure or not, its if the fruit is Vegapunk's or not. –- Update From New Post Merge --- Ya there are two types of artificial fruits one with swirly stem and one without that, maybe its a earlier version of CC's.. All I am saying is never believe words of those sheep guards or any normal citizens in the universe of One Piece as they are usually rumors...
The one with the swirls is the closest thing to looking like the real deal. The swirl is an important trait. All DF's have swirls on them. All of them.
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@•Ace•:
The one with the swirls is the closest thing to looking like the real deal. The swirl is an important trait. All DF's have swirls on them. All of them. –- Update From New Post Merge ---
That's true, But we are yet to know about smiles and how different or similar it is, to the real deal,So whatever we say till that will just be speculating..
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Big Mom doesn't have SMILES, but she was interested in Shinokuni.
because she want to protect her territory
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If you're not joking around you're clearly a simpleton. If you didn't understand what I was saying read the sentence after it and burn into your tiny little brain until you understand where your stupidity failed. If you can't understand even after that then you need to go seek a doctor. I'm sure you must have read the sentence after it as well which makes you look even worse… Try a 3rd time.
No one is stupid enough to believe a cloud would protect them from a bomb. So when that thought comes to mind common sense would tell them to read again to see if they're misunderstanding what they read. You clearly didn't do so because you don't have enough common sense to allow such.
More content, less "U DUMB" "NO U" please.
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More content, less "U DUMB" "NO U" please.
I suppose you actually think someone like me would listen to someone like you?
Laughable. I'm an extremely defiant person even if it means death, but do try. -
I'm getting bored with reading Static's posts. Their entertainment value decreased over time.
On another note, still no MR version of last week's chapter. I wonder what's taking them so long…
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I'm getting bored with reading Static's posts. Their entertainment value decreased over time.
On another note, still no MR version of last week's chapter. I wonder what's taking them so long…
What's an "MR Version"?
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Mangarule Version.
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Enlighten had an excellent post! (page 25 at the bottom)
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Originally Posted by Monkey King 
Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.
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