I think there is a reason that Kong was not shown, remember that we also did not see him in Chapter 0 even though he was talking to Garp. He will probably have some relevance later on.
Chapter 691: The king of the land of death.
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I find someone other, but not all yet! :<
Are these new ones from Enies Lobby or Marineford?
EDIT: Just realized that File 2, Rank 5 was on Momonga's ship while Hancock was aboard.
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Personally, i disagree, not about the Dragon marine thing but about Dragon´s motivation. I doubt that Dragon knows all about the great secret of the world (whether it is the Ancient Kingdom being massacred or something similar), even if he does, his motivation for this revolution is something else, namely that the current WG just does a shitty job and treat most people like garbage. His absolute dream, like you said, is freedom for everyone but not because of an ancient history but because of the misfortunes many people have to suffer.
It might be the case as well. All we have right now is his motivation of freedom, but we don't have any insight on WHY he chose to walk the path of a revolutionary. It's something I'm also looking forward to know.
About this chapter, I'm actually hyped by Vergo's words. Because I haven't really grasped the concept of how kidnapping CC and destroying the SAD factory will cause a great upheaval in the New World. I mean, sure that would stop one of the Yonkou from increasing his/her Zoan army, but the army itself still exists.
Unless of course the main weakness of these artificial DF's is that it's not permanent, so the DF users need to be constantly 'refueled'. Which, in this case would make it more interesting and impactful. Imagine a Yonkou stripped of one of his/her main army, that would be big enough to cause an upheaval.
And of course DoFla's past, the man is mysterious enough as it is, and with his underground past; he's really climbing up as one of my favorite char. (Plus, I'm a huge fan of the Joker. And I can really see similarities between DC's Joker & DoFlamingo's Joker, so I think the title "Joker" wont be wasted on him)
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Speaking of Dofla's past…I can't help but wonder do you think that Dofla could be one of the world nobles? Something like a renegade world noble?
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ONE PIECE 691 RAW
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Dofla wants to make a New Era where pirates don't dream. Pirates dreaming and acquiring One Piece is the biggest threat to the WG. Also seeing as how he was providing the Tenryuubito with all the slaves they wanted, I could definitely see him working for them directly. They're shady people and can't have all their needs met by the Marines, which is largely, at least in theory, a "Justice seeking" organization. Everything he's doing benefits them greatly. He did say he'd dis his Shichibukai position but I doubt he needs it now with his connections. Not sure if he is a TYB himself but maybe just the right kind of scheming, apathetic scumbag that they'd need for his role.
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Thx redon .
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Hi, everyone!
This is my first post in APforum.
BTW, Ceasar's line "The speed at which MY nerves work is almost a work of art" (mangapanda)
"The response time of MY nerves is instant… why, its almost artistic" (mangastream)
These translations are wrong. In japanese, he is mentioning how fast the gas affects VICTIMS' nerves. -
Hey Guys.
Can it be that luffy actually ran away from caesar to avoid his oxygen-erasing attack? Thats what came into my mind since caesar hasn´t used that move, even though from what we´ve seen it´s probably his most effective one.
@TofuAndag:Hi, everyone!
This is my first post in APforum.
BTW, Ceasar's line "The speed at which MY nerves work is almost a work of art" (mangapanda)
"The response time of MY nerves is instant… why, its almost artistic" (mangastream)
These translations are wrong. In japanese, he is mentioning how fast the gas affects VICTIMS' nerves.Good to know. That line sounded weird. So he actually improves the effects of shinokuni in some kind of way.
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Wow, this colorspread is really awesome! Nolus must have jizzed all over the place, even the giant squad is in there.
Oh you guys~~
Yes, yes I did.
@nodensuke:(I'm gonna wait for Nolus to post her essay/whatever she's working on. I get the feeling she'll identify everyone who can be identified, lol)..
I recall most of them, I just don't know the exact chapter numbers :D
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I thought he only lured CC into the corridor because there would be no way to dodge his Elephant-whatever attack.
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Which makes sense, considering that Caesar already managed to avoid a surprise Elephant gun. -
I certainly doubt DoFlamingo is a Tenryuubito descendant, if only because Oda showed us each of the Shichibukai's childhood picture. And from the looks of it, DoFlamingo comes from a rather poor neighborhood.
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About this chapter, I'm actually hyped by Vergo's words. Because I haven't really grasped the concept of how kidnapping CC and destroying the SAD factory will cause a great upheaval in the New World. I mean, sure that would stop one of the Yonkou from increasing his/her Zoan army, but the army itself still exists.
Unless of course the main weakness of these artificial DF's is that it's not permanent, so the DF users need to be constantly 'refueled'. Which, in this case would make it more interesting and impactful. Imagine a Yonkou stripped of one of his/her main army, that would be big enough to cause an upheaval.Now this is an idea I like. It would be different from what we've seen so it would be exicitng theory to me.
Hi, everyone!
This is my first post in APforum.
BTW, Ceasar's line "The speed at which MY nerves work is almost a work of art" (mangapanda)
"The response time of MY nerves is instant… why, its almost artistic" (mangastream)
These translations are wrong. In japanese, he is mentioning how fast the gas affects VICTIMS' nerves.Thank you for the heads up And…welcome to AP!
well welcome to posting at lest I noticed you didnt' say if you've been lurking here and finally decided to post) -
Tofu is correct, the line refers to the gas itself.
CC is just pleased at how fast and efficient the poison is. -
Thank you, thank you.
I wtf'd the first time I saw that panel.
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While we are at it, what is written on Mega-Caesar's chest?
Edit: Nevermind, land of death.
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Well, he's also never thrown a G3 Bazooka either. I figure it's the most damaging single hit move Luffy has done ever.
I just hope the hothead realizes Law needs Caesar in somewhat one piece.At least a haki imbued one, yeah. I can't help but wonder if he could red hawk an elephant gun. I get the feeling that will probably happen eventually even if he can't pull it off now.
I thought he only lured CC into the corridor because there would be no way to dodge his Elephant-whatever attack.
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Which makes sense, considering that Caesar already managed to avoid a surprise Elephant gun.On the last page, Luffy has clearly come back out of the corridor and into the bigger room again.
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The guy with the afro next to Brook, isn't it Andre of Whitebeard's allies?
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On the last page, Luffy has clearly come back out of the corridor and into the bigger room again.
Huh, you are right.
I thought Caesar was blocking the corridor,
! but I guess he just covered the angle of vision with his size. Thank you.
Maybe he used the corridor to hide his gigantic arms in order to surprise Caesar, but the idea that the attack simply takes time to prepare makes a lot of sense too. After all he needed a few seconds to "charge" his Elephant Gun for the Kraken as well.
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Just found the colorspread a few pages back.
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I don't understand why people are making comparisons to Moria's Asgard. I mean yeah I guess they're similar to the point that the villain is taking his element to transform himself into a final ultimate form but that's where the similarities end. You might as well complain about how it's ripping off Enel and Mr 3 and Magellan. Moria taking in a thousand shadows was a dumb move on his part fueled by nothing but ego when he could have just taken ten and he'd have won the fight. But Caeser taking in Shinokuni was the smart move. It allowed him to use the power of his deadly gas and his own abilities to their full potential. They just weren't nearly enough against Luffy. Which was the whole point. That Caeser is a shitstain of a human being that would struggle pathetically and only make a bigger ass out of himself and earn himself an even bigger ass whooping. By that notion his transformation wasn't pointless as it served to demonstrate that point.
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I spoted X Drake and I just.
I lost my ability to can.
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I certainly doubt DoFlamingo is a Tenryuubito descendant, if only because Oda showed us each of the Shichibukai's childhood picture. And from the looks of it, DoFlamingo comes from a rather poor neighborhood.
Maybe there are many parallels to be drawn from him and the Joker from DC comics - other than the nick name they have. Though i also recall a quote from the Dark Knight - where Alfred mentions how there are some men that just want to watch the world burn - which woulda fit in with what we've seen of him. Him telling the Marines to let the Pirates escape after they freed Ace, him just standing around laughing crazily as WB used that Island tilting attack of his….He seems to get off on chaos.
Just my take on it.
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At least a haki imbued one, yeah. I can't help but wonder if he could red hawk an elephant gun. I get the feeling that will probably happen eventually even if he can't pull it off now.
Thank god he's not using red hawk on a logia douchebag in front of him who just fused with massive amounts of highly inflammable toxic gas.
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This is a coloring of a panel of this chapter. I hope you like it.
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Who does everyone think are the two peaceful nations expressing interest in Shinokuni? I guess Wano's a possibility (not sure if it's very peaceful though)
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Thank god he's not using red hawk on a logia douchebag in front of him who just fused with massive amounts of highly inflammable toxic gas.
Hey, we don't know if this new form of the gas is explosive yet or not! Only one way to find out. :ninja:
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My take on why Luffy's is running in the corridor is simplyto have more space to stretch
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Who does everyone think are the two peaceful nations expressing interest in Shinokuni? I guess Wano's a possibility (not sure if it's very peaceful though)
Wano has enough hype that their "Swordsman" are very strong and Marines/WG don't go there. A country like that doesn't need that. They already have destructive people living there.
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Wano has enough hype that their "Swordsman" are very strong and Marines/WG don't go there. A country like that doesn't need that. They already have destructive people living there.
Yeah that's true. Though we don't know that much about Wano, all we know is the WG/Marines don't go near them, they could be struggling at the moment due to their closed off society.
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CC will be defeated but one question will never be answered: does he fart?
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CC will be defeated but one question will never be answered: does he fart?
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Yeah that's true. Though we don't know that much about Wano, all we know is the WG/Marines don't go near them, they could be struggling at the moment due to their closed off society.
I don't see how closed off society means struggling. It means they don't want certain people on their Island. They are the only place that makes Katanas and somebody like Kinemon can afford to leave the Island. Don't see that happening at all.
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The guy with the afro next to Brook, isn't it Andre of Whitebeard's allies?
He has a lookalike in the marines. Few have found cameos of that guy and posted in this thread. That guy looks more like this guy than andre, but they are lookalikes.
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Who does everyone think are the two peaceful nations expressing interest in Shinokuni? I guess Wano's a possibility (not sure if it's very peaceful though)
The peaceful nationss are Arabasta and Sakura Kingdom. :ninja:
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Wano and Elbaf^^
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to say luffy was fighting seriously is debatable. the scenario i gave was related to how things turned out. the burglars werent smart enough (ceasar didnt outsmart luffy) or strong enough (ceasar didnt beat luffy). to show further where luffy was seriously annoyed and wanted things to end quickly, when franky was in choppers body rampaging and attacking luffy, luffy used gear 3 coa to end it quickly…. in this instant, luffy just used a regular punch with coa. for someone fighting seriously and wants to stop something asap y delay with a weaker attack?
as you said, being partially responsible is subjective. but in this case, luffy was suppose to be serious about the matter and supposedly wanted to stop. he even got more upset by cc's actions, showing that he even cared. one thing i left out in my post and i figured it would come up was that "if something bad is happening and ur ABLE to stop it and u dont, ur partially responsible wether u care or not about it." its the same reason why if u see someone get killed, and u dont report it and the authorities find out u get charged.
interesting topic u brought up about ace's death. u might disagree with me but in all honesty i think its a matter of perspective. one could say ace loaded the gun (by stepping in the way) and akainu shot it. u could blame BB b/c he captured ace which later led to akainu killing him .
But you see, the burglar (Ceasar) was sturdy enough and had the endurance to receive one or two shots from the police (Luffy) without getting handicapped in the process. Think of it as someone who got shot in the left shoulder but has a gun in his right hand and knows how to use it.
Now that I think about it we are looking at the same coin from opposite sides. You hold luffy responsible for not taking things "seriously" whilst I applaud Ceasar for being able to tank Luffy. I agree with you in that measuring the degree of seriousness Luffy has had in this battle is debatable. I would actually go to the extreme of saying is almost impossible. He can either be goofing around, fight without much appeal, or fight seriously but this state is almost like an on and off switch with a third option a "mild tone" of light to it.
anyway, ill reiterate my point. if an action is about to occur and u are ABLE to stop it and u dont, u are partially responsible.
But you see Luffy WASN´T ABLE to stop it. Otherwise we wouldn´t be having this debate. That´s a fact. For whatever reason you want to state. Even if Luffy had the intention to capture Ceasar; his motives weren´t related to the "lets save the poor centaur crew-sheep henchmen who are so dumb to not know they are being treated as guinea pigs". If anything this is a collateral fact that would piss off Luffy even more; actually, it did as shown in the chapter.
I would agree with your statement if Luffy had been acting like zoro did against monet "sitting next to the gate idling away" but Luffy was clearly in a fighting stance. He just couldn´t Knock Ceasar out before the sheep troop was shinokunied´
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What's a bit beyond me is people wanting to see Tashigi in that spread.
She must have the same age as Luffy Zoro and co. So, if he joined the marines, say, 2 o 3 years ago (pre-time skip), she'd be, what, 16? 17? When she joined the marines?
You think she'd look ANY different? The only guys who grew exceptionaly fast are Coby and Helmeppo.
What I do wonder is why Yarisugi and Kong aren't there. I swear I'll laugh my ass off if the bland looking mohawk guy on the far left of the spread is Kong, though.
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_melptlUOxw1r9djx3o1_500.jpg
Probable or improbable, its still assumptions at this stage.
All of them have different noses.
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Originally Posted by keetongu
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me…djx3o1_500.jpgProbable or improbable, its still assumptions at this stage.@King:
All of them have different noses.
One thing it is just the artwork in the spread, there is some slight variation on some characters…look at the giantess...She's slimmer and has slim lips in her apperance at the war, but looks like fat lips (similar to usopp almost) in that spread. The nose that comes close to Dragon's is that guy between Garp and Z (under the guy circled)
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Personally, i disagree, not about the Dragon marine thing but about Dragon´s motivation. I doubt that Dragon knows all about the great secret of the world (whether it is the Ancient Kingdom being massacred or something similar), even if he does, his motivation for this revolution is something else, namely that the current WG just does a shitty job and treat most people like garbage. His absolute dream, like you said, is freedom for everyone but not because of an ancient history but because of the misfortunes many people have to suffer.
i agree during gray terminal dragon sadi something about how the kingdom he grew up in was corrupt and discarded people he could have seen the corruption of that kingdom( i dont remember the name) and went on a crusade to stop it from happening anywhere else.
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Anyone knows who's the character that looks like Zoro (Above Aokiji) in the Colored Film Z page ?
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He has a lookalike in the marines. Few have found cameos of that guy and posted in this thread. That guy looks more like this guy than andre, but they are lookalikes.
Can you link me to those posts?
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I find someone other, but not all yet! :<
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I think this post doesn't get attention enough. It could avoid many "Who is this?" or "Is that…?" questions.^^
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Anyone knows who's the character that looks like Zoro (Above Aokiji) in the Colored Film Z page ?
I didn't know most of these characters but it looks like it's gonna be a great movieYou mean the one on the right of Z? It's Garp but younger
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Anyone knows who's the character that looks like Zoro (Above Aokiji) in the Colored Film Z page ?
I didn't know most of these characters but it looks like it's gonna be a great movieIt's Garp. At least he's the only one directly above Kuzan.
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oh i just realized they're the young versions XD, i thought the movie is post time skip, so the SH will go back in time or something ?
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No they aren't, Oda just made a color spread with the younger version of a lot of marines, since Z used to be an admiral
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shit is really gonna hit the fan. 2 Shichbukai at war with each other, along with 1 of the Emperors.
I love you Oda.