Oh yeah, nevermind.
Best theory I've heard of him though.
Oh yeah, nevermind.
Best theory I've heard of him though.
@$abZ:
Never thought of Kaidou being Scopper Gaban. I'm not sure if I want that or not, but thinking about it you'd expect a strong looking ex-Roger pirate to be monstrous in strength. He looks younger than Roger but obviously older than Shanks, which puts him at an age where he might not have lost much fighting ability. But the whole story of how he became a "bad guy" is what I'm dreading, which is why I'm not sure if it'll be worth adding him to the plot as Kaidou.
Kaido(u) may not be that bad of a guy.
Sure… He slaughtered Moriah's crew and owned Moriah, but Moriah is an asshat; and remember, Kaido(u) is a pirate (and so is Scopper)--and pirates, aren't that nice. (Roger was said to be pretty brutal himself, during his time and prime). Basically, what I'm trying to say is: We haven't seen enough of Kaido(u) and the things he does to define him as "bad bad".
@The:
Kaido(u) may not be that bad of a guy.
Sure… He slaughtered Moriah's crew and owned Moriah, but Moriah is an asshat; and remember, Kaido(u) is a pirate (and so is Scopper)--and pirates, aren't that nice. (Roger was said to be pretty brutal himself, during his time and prime). Basically, what I'm trying to say is: We haven't seen enough of Kaido(u) and the things he does to define him as "bad bad".
Nor anything more to ride on the theory that he's scopper than a sharp jaw line…
I wonder if Big Mom and Kaidou own a devil fruit.
I wonder if Big Mom and Kaidou own a devil fruit.
I'm 80% sure they will both have a Devil Fruit.
And I'm betting one will be a (Mythical) Zoan, and the other will be a Logia. (Whitebeard was a Paramecia, and Shanks a mere Haki user (God)).
Yeah, I also think they both have one.
We already have our badass, not-devil-fruit using Emperor down.
Or Kaido might be some sort of Cyborg with his technical theme and alll.
We already have our badass, not-devil-fruit using Emperor down.
Except that he is a Haki master, so he still has an obligatory power.
Personally, i think that Kaidou as Big Mum and Shanks are pirates from the "Great Pirate Era" (well, Shanks was cabin boy before but he became a captain later). Otherwise Whitebeard´s, Sengoku´s and Garp´s speech about the "Old Generation" having to step down from the stage would not make sense, or rather it would make sense for them personally but story-wise it would not when all the guys from Roger´s Generation step down while there is still someone left. Besides, Kaidou´s attack on WB while he is on the way to save his crewmate was intelligent but also very insidious. I can not imagine a former Roger Pirate doing such a thing.
Personally, i think that Kaidou as Big Mum and Shanks are pirates from the "Great Pirate Era" (well, Shanks was cabin boy before but he became a captain later).
I don't remember anyone saying Big Mam was from the Great Pirate era? can you please help remind me
Otherwise Whitebeard´s, Sengoku´s and Garp´s speech about the "Old Generation" having to step down from the stage would not make sense, or rather it would make sense for them personally but story-wise it would not when all the guys from Roger´s Generation step down while there is still someone left. Besides, Kaidou´s attack on WB while he is on the way to save his crewmate was intelligent but also very insidious. I can not imagine a former Roger Pirate doing such a thing.
The speech about the retirement of the old generation would make sense even if the other 3 yonko aren't from it; it implies that they belong in the new generation and with the death of WB and the retirement of Sengoku and Garp, the old generation has finally come to an end and a new age comes in
First of all, nobody said that BM is from the Great Pirate Era, that is why i said personally because it is my opinion as it is now. For the second part, i do not think that you really understood what i was trying to say. I agree with you that the with the death of WB and the retirement of Garp and Sengoku the old generation comes to an end, it is basically what i said, too. All three, WB, Garp and Sengoku had their prime pretty much in the Roger Era and at least WB and Sengoku said that there is no room for people of that era to be in the New Era. That is why i assume that Kaidou and BM are from the Great Pirate Era, the era that comes after Roger´s era and death. Otherwise, what Sengoku and WB said would not make sense. So basically, i assume (no proof) that Big Mum and Kaidou are approx. at the same age as the three Admirals or Shanks.
First of all, nobody said that BM is from the Great Pirate Era, that is why i said personally because it is my opinion as it is now. For the second part, i do not think that you really understood what i was trying to say. I agree with you that the with the death of WB and the retirement of Garp and Sengoku the old generation comes to an end, it is basically what i said, too. All three, WB, Garp and Sengoku had their prime pretty much in the Roger Era and at least WB and Sengoku said that there is no room for people of that era to be in the New Era. That is why i assume that Kaidou and BM are from the Great Pirate Era, the era that comes after Roger´s era and death. Otherwise, what Sengoku and WB said would not make sense. So basically, i assume (no proof) that Big Mum and Kaidou are approx. at the same age as the three Admirals or Shanks.
I get it now!!! oops i confused Great Pirate Era with Roger's era my bad.
I agree with this theory then
Couldn't help thinking this after the most recent chapter:
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Doflamingo is the Yonkou that Law wants to take out?
Couldn't help thinking this after the most recent chapter:
http://images.wikia.com/onepiece/images/5/52/Kaido_portrait.png = http://i50.tinypic.com/2mydy5f.jpg
Doflamingo is the Yonkou that Law wants to take out?
I just think it's impossible. Moriah apparently knew Kaidou well, battling with him the way he did during the War just wouldn't make sense if they were mortal enemies like that. Now pinky Flamingo being in cahoots with Big Mom or some other emperor could certainly be a possibility, with Law ultimately wanting to bring him down as well.
First of all, nobody said that BM is from the Great Pirate Era, that is why i said personally because it is my opinion as it is now. For the second part, i do not think that you really understood what i was trying to say. I agree with you that the with the death of WB and the retirement of Garp and Sengoku the old generation comes to an end, it is basically what i said, too. All three, WB, Garp and Sengoku had their prime pretty much in the Roger Era and at least WB and Sengoku said that there is no room for people of that era to be in the New Era. That is why i assume that Kaidou and BM are from the Great Pirate Era, the era that comes after Roger´s era and death. Otherwise, what Sengoku and WB said would not make sense. So basically, i assume (no proof) that Big Mum and Kaidou are approx. at the same age as the three Admirals or Shanks.
Wait, hold up.
So you're taking an emotionally charged sentimental statement of old men who no longer feel they belong in the era, as a literal, factual informative statement?
Yeah, let's not get too excited there and jump to any conclusion.
Wait, hold up.
So you're taking an emotionally charged sentimental statement of old men who no longer feel they belong in the era, as a literal, factual informative statement?Yeah, let's not get too excited there and jump to any conclusion.
At the same time, wouldn't Whitebeard have mentioned Kaidō and Big Mom among the people who remembered Roger's era?
That was most likely because we (the readers) don`t rly know them, so Oda decided to let WB list the old people we actually have a connection with.
WOW.. Kaidou will be my favourite in the OP world if he enslaved giants ! It just seems so badass lol
Slavery's cool? Lolwut?
Lol, TheCrystalShip, same reaction I had.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2541-8/one-piece/chapter-434.html
Whitebeard also mentioned the guys who he's most familiar with from that era; Roger, Garp, Sengoku. Roger is also dead, so… he wasn't going to mention all the people who were pirates back then, because they're more than enough of them, even among the weaker crews (such as Squardo).
Couldn't help thinking this after the most recent chapter:
http://images.wikia.com/onepiece/images/5/52/Kaido_portrait.png = http://i50.tinypic.com/2mydy5f.jpg
Doflamingo is the Yonkou that Law wants to take out?
If Doflamingo is Kaido(u), I'll shit bricks. HOWEVER, I don't think that will turn out to be the case.
Maybe Kaido(u) is his father, though?
I just think it's impossible. Moriah apparently knew Kaidou well, battling with him the way he did during the War just wouldn't make sense if they were mortal enemies like that. Now pinky Flamingo being in cahoots with Big Mom or some other emperor could certainly be a possibility, with Law ultimately wanting to bring him down as well.
Could have been in disguise lol. It would make sending Doflamingo to execute Moria after the war even more meaningful.
Also it would explain why Shanks was able to get to Marineford so quickly despite "clashing with Kaidou's crew"… cus if this theory works then Kaidou didn't actually clash with Shanks.. CUS HE'S AT MARINEFORD!!!
Doflamingo is not Kaido that theory belongs in the stupid theory thread.
Well, they didnt have a fight for life or death..he was just going against him so that Kaidou won
t go against WB and after he saw it would be already enough trouble to fight SHanks here on equal terms instead of just a weakened WB, i think Kaidou knew it wasn`t worth it anymore.
So SHanks was able to go a few hours later to Marineford, just a bit to late to save WB.(when he would have actually tried that)
I do not know what you guys think but i estimate Big Mum as a similar fighter as Magellan, only on another level (without any basis at this point), meaning that she probably has an extremely lethal ability as in DF but is physically not as strong as she once was. Magellan for example was pretty much feared by everyone in Impel Down because of his ability but physically, he was not that strong, even Luffy´s pre-TS Jet Bazooka brought him to his knees.
I do not know what you guys think but i estimate Big Mum as a similar fighter as Magellan, only on another level (without any basis at this point), meaning that she probably has an extremely lethal ability as in DF but is physically not as strong as she once was. Magellan for example was pretty much feared by everyone in Impel Down because of his ability but physically, he was not that strong, even Luffy´s pre-TS Jet Bazooka brought him to his knees.
I picture Big Mam as a giant who has great speed, endurance, and agility. Making her a much more formidable foe than a regular giant, for example the giant (VA was it?) Luffy beat at Marineford. Imagine a Lucci type fighter with gear 3rd level power x100. Still you could be right, since the only things we know about her is she is big and her saliva is corrosive. So she might have some weird DF that she has truly mastered more than anyone.
I picture Big Mam as a giant who has great speed, endurance, and agility. Making her a much more formidable foe than a regular giant, for example the giant (VA was it?) Luffy beat at Marineford. Imagine a Lucci type fighter with gear 3rd level power x100. Still you could be right, since the only things we know about her is she is big and her saliva is corrosive. So she might have some weird DF that she has truly mastered more than anyone.
I really do not see her having great speed or agility, just looking at her… But she may have a different form or something, some have speculated that her "ugly" form is merely the result of a Baba Yaga Zoan.
I really do not see her having great speed or agility, just looking at her… But she may have a different form or something, some have speculated that her "ugly" form is merely the result of a Baba Yaga Zoan.
Baba Yaga… Hmmm that sounds pretty cool, never thought of that one.
Still the week or so she was revealed I came up with the Pitcher Plant fruit and I'm still leaning towards that. It's the only thing not poison related that I can imagine eats everything and can literally have it's stomach acid over flow. Not to mention that plant on her jolly roger.
Now for my baseless theory. I have a feeling that though she can eat her crew mates at will it isn't the end of them. I bet she can plant them(god that's nasty) if she wanted and they'd grow out of the ground like Poison Ivy's plant children, only they would just be healthier and stronger than before. They'd get healthy and strong but the feeling of getting gobbled up isn't worth it for most people.
I really do not see her having great speed or agility, just looking at her… But she may have a different form or something, some have speculated that her "ugly" form is merely the result of a Baba Yaga Zoan.
I wouldn't be surprised if she had a mythical zoan DF, but she could be like a massive version of Sentoumaru in the sense despite her size she can still keep up with smaller and normally faster characters. But who knows?
What if BM is a giant with rokushiki-like techniques and haki?
Seems like you guys do not agree with my BM Magellan comparison.
Big Mom with rokushiki and haki sounds pretty crazy considering her size. I'm expecting some new devil fruit if anything. I'm curious on how tough the rest of her crew is…but after seeing Pekoms in action it's likely Baron, Bobbin and Three-Eyes are just as strong...but we'll see.
I'm more interested in Kaido. We haven't seem him yet and only know that he is tough (According to Moria anyways) and that he has cyborg guards. I still believe X. Drake is now employed by him but I guess time will tell.
Seems like you guys do not agree with my BM Magellan comparison.
That seems more likely than her rotund body pulling off Rokushiki or Haki techniques.
Does body size really have anything to do with using Haki techniques?
BM has to be incredibly powerful otherwise Shanks, Kaidou, or Whitebeard would have likely destroyed her, taken her territory, and killed all her allies if they didn't join under their respective flags. I wonder why Whitebeard and Shanks never teamed up to try to rid the world of the two seemingly evil Emperors (Taking one out at a time). The dynamic between these individuals and their objectives definitely needs explained more. Shanks and Whitebeard likely could have obtained the One Piece by now but have (had) decided against it for whatever reason. Are (were) they merely there to make sure no one else got it and enjoy the pirate life?
First of all, WB had no interest in obtaining One Piece and finding Raftel. Second, that you even suggest that WB and Shanks would team up makes it obvious that 1.) you did not understand what pirates are actually about 2.) you did not understand what kind of guy WB really was.
To BM: It is obvious that she can use Haki, would be dumb otherwise but i do not think (or rather predict) that her mastery is at the level of a Rayleigh or a Shanks. I think it is more likely that she has a really lethal DF but is physically not that strong as the other Yonkou, at least not anymore (kind of like Magellan).
What if BM is a giant with rokushiki-like techniques and haki?
You just simplified what I was thinking. I think this would be very cool, like I said Sentoumaru is much larger than Luffy but caught up to him easily. Imagining a giant without the setbacks of slower attacks and the benefits of rokushiki would be amazing. I think it's obvious all the Yonkou have all 3 types of haki.
Big Mom with rokushiki and haki sounds pretty crazy considering her size. I'm expecting some new devil fruit if anything. I'm curious on how tough the rest of her crew is…but after seeing Pekoms in action it's likely Baron, Bobbin and Three-Eyes are just as strong...but we'll see.
Yes but that is why it would be awesome and considering she is one of the four strongest pirates in the world, her being a lounging fatass and having that level of prestige would be even more odd. Unless she has mastered her DF to god-like levels even beyond what the admirals have done. As for her having haki, like I said above it can be safely assumed all yonkou have 3 types of haki.
I am too lazy to go look (and I should be finishing my hw reading) but didn't it state or imply they weren't the 'monsters' or 'fighters' in her crew unlike the people like Bobbin who actually destroy countries.
You just simplified what I was thinking. I think this would be very cool, like I said Sentoumaru is much larger than Luffy but caught up to him easily. Imagining a giant without the setbacks of slower attacks and the benefits of rokushiki would be amazing. I think it's obvious all the Yonkou have all 3 types of haki.
Yes but that is why it would be awesome and considering she is one of the four strongest pirates in the world, her being a lounging fatass and having that level of prestige would be even more odd. Unless she has mastered her DF to god-like levels even beyond what the admirals have done. As for her having haki, like I said above it can be safely assumed all yonkou have 3 types of haki.
I am too lazy to go look (and I should be finishing my hw reading) but didn't it state or imply they weren't the 'monsters' or 'fighters' in her crew unlike the people like Bobbin who actually destroy countries.
I wouldn't necessarily make the assumption that Kaido, Big Mom and BlackBeard all have CoC Haki. I would agree that they'll all have high levels of CoA and CoO but I don't think that they'll need to have CoC aswell.
I wouldn't necessarily make the assumption that Kaido, Big Mom and BlackBeard all have CoC Haki. I would agree that they'll all have high levels of CoA and CoO but I don't think that they'll need to have CoC aswell.
Well, Rayleigh did say that people who make a name for themselves usually have it. I think being a Yonko definitely applies as making a name for oneself, no?
That being said, I don't know if they'll all have it, but I expect at least one of those 3 to have it. Not that it will make a huge difference though… It's not like they're going to be able to knock out any of the Straw Hats with it.
You just simplified what I was thinking. I think this would be very cool, like I said Sentoumaru is much larger than Luffy but caught up to him easily. Imagining a giant without the setbacks of slower attacks and the benefits of rokushiki would be amazing. I think it's obvious all the Yonkou have all 3 types of haki.
Yes but that is why it would be awesome and considering she is one of the four strongest pirates in the world, her being a lounging fatass and having that level of prestige would be even more odd. Unless she has mastered her DF to god-like levels even beyond what the admirals have done. As for her having haki, like I said above it can be safely assumed all yonkou have 3 types of haki.
I am too lazy to go look (and I should be finishing my hw reading) but didn't it state or imply they weren't the 'monsters' or 'fighters' in her crew unlike the people like Bobbin who actually destroy countries. No, both Pekoms and Baron Tamago were confirmed to have the role of 'Fighter' in Big Mam's crew through their intro boxes.
Pekoms' intro box: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/121685/one-piece_v66_ch651_by_mangarule/6
Baron Tamago's intro box: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/121685/one-piece_v66_ch651_by_mangarule/9
Well, Rayleigh did say that people who make a name for themselves usually have it. I think being a Yonko definitely applies as making a name for oneself, no?
That being said, I don't know if they'll all have it, but I expect at least one of those 3 to have it. Not that it will make a huge difference though… It's not like they're going to be able to knock out any of the Straw Hats with it.
It is the other way around actually, those who have CoC are often big names, not all big names have CoC. I know it is a small detail, it can result in the same but it does not have to.
IMHO, anything that is not solid can be logia. Even Kizaru thought that straws (Hawkins) could be logia, until he confirmed that the body was solid, so he knew it was paramecia.
So far we've seen Enel and the admirals with logia DFs which casually contain enormous energy, but I suppose from now on we'll see more "ordinary" logias like Smoker's and Caribou's, or tricky ones like CCs. Or perhaps some like Ace's or Croc's, which I consider to be just below the top level.
If one of the yonkou has a logia DFs, however, I expect one that at least in par with the admirals'.
Now, do acid logia (predicted for BM by some people) and metal logia (for Kaido) have the massive destructive powers like Enel's or the admirals'?
Big Mam's acid logia will be just as destructive as Enel and the admiral's logias. Kaido will have a (probably Mythic) Zoan fruit.
I could see Kaido having an Angel Mythical Zoan, because, doesn't his 'name' roughly translate to Church? Heck… Maybe even an Aether Logia, since Aether is said to be the "air of the Gods".
Another possibility I've toyed with is Big Mom, like Pekoms, having a Turtle DF, only hers being the Kame Kame no Mi, Legendary Model: Genbu. It would fit with the loose association of them being associated with the four Chinese Guardians: Whitebeard was Byakko the White Tiger, Shanks as Suzaku the Red Phoenix, Kaidou as Seiryu the Teal Dragon, and Big Mom as Genbu the Black Turtle.
Well, Rayleigh did say that people who make a name for themselves usually have it. I think being a Yonko definitely applies as making a name for oneself, no?
That being said, I don't know if they'll all have it, but I expect at least one of those 3 to have it. Not that it will make a huge difference though… It's not like they're going to be able to knock out any of the Straw Hats with it.
Well we know Shanks and WB had it, and considering that the other Yonkou are equal to them at least in some aspect I'd be surprised if they didn't have it. Blackbeard not having it would be odd. Considering it translates to something roughly along the lines of king/emperor/conqueror's haki, the 4 emperors not all having it would be somewhat ironic. But I then again like you said I don't think it will matter either as all of Kid and Law's crew pre-TS could handle Rayleigh's CoC (but then again we don't know how much effort he put into it). So post-TS SHs should be fine. I get the feeling Garp (already implied), Sengoku, Kong, Mihawk, Zoro, Doflamingo, and maybe on of the SN will have it (wrong thread I know)
Anyone thinking what line up would be necessary to take down Big Mam. I don't think Luffy/Zoro/Sanji could, or even all of the SHs combined could do it. I could see Luffy/Law/Apoo/Kid/Hawkins all doing it. However I'm not sure if her stronger fighters would all require tag teams to beat them unless they are WB commander levels that said Killer/Zoro versus Bobbin could be epic.
CoC are not Hashirama´s cells, they are not sold at the supermarket^^
CoC are not Hashirama´s cells, they are not sold at the supermarket^^
CoC is obviously the sharingan… duh. But the people I listed make sense except for maybe either Sengoku or Kong not having it. Mihawk at the top of swordsmen, Doflamingo at the top of criminals/brokers/underworld, Sengoku/Kong at the top of the marines, Garp said that Luffy inherited it also (my guess is he meant from Dragon, but I think it's implying their family has it), the four emperor's are at the top of the pirate world and they are the EMPERORS. Luffy, Doflamingo, WB, Ace, Roger, Rayleigh, Hancock, Mihawk, Kaidou, BB, Big Mam, Shanks, Sengoku/Kong, Dragon, Garp. So 15 people that have or should have CoC vs the hundreds characters we've seen. Senju DNA 1/3 people have Senju DNA LOL
@Fire Fist:
Another possibility I've toyed with is Big Mom, like Pekoms, having a Turtle DF, only hers being the Kame Kame no Mi, Legendary Model: Genbu. It would fit with the loose association of them being associated with the four Chinese Guardians: Whitebeard was Byakko the White Tiger, Shanks as Suzaku the Red Phoenix, Kaidou as Seiryu the Teal Dragon, and Big Mom as Genbu the Black Turtle.
i like this theory…and monkey d. dragon would be kohryu? the one who is in the center of the four guardians,...its loose association yeah, but i like how you thought of it.
in my opinion, big momma got the "tree or plant" zoan fruit. im basing it on his jolly roger....i could be wrong, her addiction to sweets maybe because she can produce honeybees or insects???
also, ive researched and found a certain plant called "monstera deliciosa"
a tree devil fruit would be good imo for charlotte linlin, she can recover damages and sprung new limbs like a tree....she can regenerate her damage...it would fit her being a giant, her curly hair...she can sprung different types of dangerous and poisonous plants (like ussop? LOL)...she can also grow crewmembers reason why she got no problem eating her men.
but her and her crewmembers' theme is like from alice in wonderland....so queen of hearts perhaps???
oh well, what the hell am i saying? LOL...im too confused. sorry.
No, both Pekoms and Baron Tamago were confirmed to have the role of 'Fighter' in Big Mam's crew through their intro boxes.
Pekoms' intro box: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/121685/one-piece_v66_ch651_by_mangarule/6
Baron Tamago's intro box: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/121685/one-piece_v66_ch651_by_mangarule/9
Yes but on pg14 of that same chapter Pekoms says the Warriors of her crew will come destroy the island. So it makes me wonder if they are the equivalent of Nami and Usopp versus the Sanji/Zoro/Franky equivalents in Big Mam's crew power wise. I mean we know how much stronger division commanders in WB's crew are/were than the others, why can't Big Mam have the same type of crew levels. Even Shanks had Rockstar who was 94,000,000 and we know he isn't close to what the others in his crew are. Sorry for the shitty grammar, it's really late but I have a cough and can't sleep
i have no doubt they're both atleast mid tier fighters on BM's crew, the way tamago was sort of holding back from the action makes me think he is probably somewhat superior to pekoms, atleast in rank. They were also on a business trip, by mentioning the fighters of the crew will come destroy it they aren't necessarily excluding themselves.
Yes but on pg14 of that same chapter Pekoms says the Warriors of her crew will come destroy the island. So it makes me wonder if they are the equivalent of Nami and Usopp versus the Sanji/Zoro/Franky equivalents in Big Mam's crew power wise. I mean we know how much stronger division commanders in WB's crew are/were than the others, why can't Big Mam have the same type of crew levels. Even Shanks had Rockstar who was 94,000,000 and we know he isn't close to what the others in his crew are. Sorry for the shitty grammar, it's really late but I have a cough and can't sleep
When he says:
"The warriors of the Big Mom pirates will come to this island and destroy it once and for all."
I'm pretty sure he is referring to her army of fodder henchmen that would raid the entire island not her top ranking officers. Though you are probably right in thinking that Pekoms is one of her Usopp/Chopper level fighters. Oda holding back on exposing Tamago's bounty and ability leads me to believe that he is Zoro/Sanji level and significantly stronger than Pekoms.
When he says:
"The warriors of the Big Mom pirates will come to this island and destroy it once and for all."
I'm pretty sure he is referring to her army of fodder henchmen that would raid the entire island not her top ranking officers. Though you are probably right in thinking that Pekoms is one of her Usopp/Chopper level fighters. Oda holding back on exposing Tamago's bounty and ability leads me to believe that he is Zoro/Sanji level and significantly stronger than Pekoms.
Not a chance…A guy with a 330,000,000 Beli bounty is way past Usopp and Chopper.
You dont just receive bounties that large by just being part of a Yonkous crew, you have to be pretty badass.
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Not a chance…A guy with a 330,000,000 Beli bounty is way past Usopp and Chopper.
You dont just receive bounties that large by just being part of a Yonkous crew, you have to be pretty badass.
I think he meant Pekoms is the equivalent of Chopper and Usopp when compared to other members of Big Mam's crew; a good future match for either Chopper or Usopp.