Would it be much of a stretch to think that Punk Hazard's original inhabitants were/are Mythical creatures?
Chapter 660: Royal Shichibukai Trafalgar Law
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I actually think it's more creative that way. I do like Norse mythology as I said, but Oda is always able to come up with something that is not copy and paste, which is what makes him such a good writer. Who knows, maybe he is mixing up different mythologies on this island and we'll see some Norse stuff later down the line. For example, that one female winged character was a harpy from what I can tell. I'm not sure what harpies are from, but I don't think it's Greek. I could be wrong though.
Harpies are from Greek mythology (which is pretty much crawled with monsters that have body of avian and human female face - see also sirens, erinyes). We have also satyrs, dragons and giant humanoids in Greek mythology.
Say do you think there are chances that we will see cyclops? Maybe the Boss is actually cyclops (they are giant creatures)? Or maybe Hekatonkheires who have 100 hands - that would be cool.
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Would it be much of a stretch to think that Punk Hazard's original inhabitants were/are Mythical creatures?
That's a good assumption, I was thinking the same.:)
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I still don't understand how law was able to lift the ship, did he change the place of gravity?
THEORIE: law's ability allows him to create rooms in which he is in a sense god, with simple hand signs he's able to modify everything in that room. tact just changes gravity upside down….
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ONE PIECE 660 RAW
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In the last panel Law says, "I can't let you leave this island anymore, I shouldn't have said that nobody was there"
Does that mean he didn't know that the SHs were there? That he doesn't care about the SHs and should have just told them they were there?
I just find that interesting that he said that, probably means nothing.:ninja:
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It probably means that he was aware of the children's presence but didn't know that the Mugiwara pirates were present.
Since I'm already at it I simply have to praise Oda for the beautiful art this chapter. The frozen people were especially detailed and impressive.
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The tact on Law's hand reminds me of Nami's Clima Tact =o
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I absolutely LOVED the color page. And I'd have to say that this was more of a comical chapter than an actiony one. But all in all, a great one.~
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I still don't understand how law was able to lift the ship, did he change the place of gravity?
Tjalling's theory I quoted below is basically what I was thinking as well, though s/he did a great job wording it. Basically his power probably has control over the space he selects. I'm sure he has limits and can't extend it too far, but it's still very powerful.
Another theory is that Law basically "cuts off" one reality and "another reality" exists within the area he selects. He cuts people up who are only half inside his selected area or something.
Either way, his power is very interesting and I can't wait to see it fully explained.
As many have said the centaurs are Greek but so are the harpies, they appear in several greek myths - I was in love with Greek mythology when I was younger and read pretty much everything there is, so I might get things mixed up sometimes but I generally remember things correctly ;)
Norse mythology as well; it appeals to me even more than Greek nowadays tbh. And it's true that the Romans borrowed a lot of their legends from the Greek, as well as several other things… :P
Harpies are from Greek mythology (which is pretty much crawled with monsters that have body of avian and human female face - see also sirens, erinyes). We have also satyrs, dragons and giant humanoids in Greek mythology.
Say do you think there are chances that we will see cyclops? Maybe the Boss is actually cyclops (they are giant creatures)? Or maybe Hekatonkheires who have 100 hands - that would be cool.
I stand corrected. Didn't realize harpies were also from Greek myths.
Seeing a cyclops would be great. Mainly because Oda would give it a unique twist no one else could think of. And the 100 handed creature would also be great.
Others have said this, but we really need the return of the Franky Cetaur for this arc!
THEORIE: law's ability allows him to create rooms in which he is in a sense god, with simple hand signs he's able to modify everything in that room. tact just changes gravity upside down….
I do like this theory. I'm interested to see if that's it or not.
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Love the chapter. At first I thought Law ability was stupid, but after watching what he can do/ possibly can do I am impressed. Is it overpowered? I can't say that now because it has to have a weakness just like everybody else Devil Fruit powers. No idea the Smoker and Law fight was a possibilty, but let us see where Master Oda takes us from here. I love this manga. Love the Franky poise scene. Funny moment befor things turn ugly. luffy & company vs Boss. Sanji and company vs Master. Smoker vs Law. Can this manga get any better? And people had the nerve to say Oda fell off.
I wonder why no one said anything about Law bounty raise was due to him saving Luffy? I know it had to jump after that. How much? Who knows.
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^ What page was it revealed that Law's county raised after saving Luffy? I think I overlooked that line or something.
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I wonder why no one said anything about Law bounty raise was due to him saving Luffy? I know it had to jump after that. How much? Who knows.
Either I missed something, or you're reading a different translation xD
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I'm thinking it is Thanos' theory that saving Luffy may have resulted in Law's bounty rising, and his surprise is that no one else thought of or mentioned it themselves, since it has not, as far as I can tell, been revealed why it was raised as of yet (if it ever will). @ Thanos? Is this the case, or can you provide a link to prove your conjecture that it is linked to saving Luffy?
FTR, it seems equally as plausible that it was raised due to activities like taking the hearts out of victims… It may have taken some time to collect a hundred hearts, and one must assume that the heart Pirates were busy over the ast two years making themselves even more infamous.
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I'm thinking it is Thanos' theory that saving Luffy may have resulted in Law's bounty rising, and his surprise is that no one else thought of or mentioned it themselves, since it has not, as far as I can tell, been revealed why it was raised as of yet (if it ever will). @ Thanos? Is this the case, or can you provide a link to prove your conjecture that it is linked to saving Luffy?
FTR, it seems equally as plausible that it was raised due to activities like taking the hearts out of victims… It may have taken some time to collect a hundred hearts, and one must assume that the heart Pirates were busy over the ast two years making themselves even more infamous.
I think part of it is that it makes no sense. Luffy since he got his 300 million bounty, defeated Moria (swept up), punched a Celestial Dragon in the face, escaped, broke into and led the biggest escape ever of Impel Down, showed up at Marineford, displayed Conqueror's Haki, and actually managed to get Ace free before Akainu magma-fisted him. Even counting for the Impel Down/Moria cover-ups, his bounty went from 300 million to 400 million.
Law…. saved Luffy. And gave the government 100 pirate hearts. His bounty is 440 million. That just really makes no sense if all things are equal, that saving Luffy is worse than everything Luffy has done in that interim period.
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I think part of it is that it makes no sense. Luffy since he got his 300 million bounty, defeated Moria (swept up), punched a Celestial Dragon in the face, escaped, broke into and led the biggest escape ever of Impel Down, showed up at Marineford, displayed Conqueror's Haki, and actually managed to get Ace free before Akainu magma-fisted him. Even counting for the Impel Down/Moria cover-ups, his bounty went from 300 million to 400 million.
Law…. saved Luffy. And gave the government 100 pirate hearts. His bounty is 440 million. That just really makes no sense if all things are equal, that saving Luffy is worse than everything Luffy has done in that interim period.
Remember we don't know how long Law been a Shichibukai for so he may just have well taken 1.5yrs to get up to 440m before becoming a ShiChiBukai.
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Remember we don't know how long Law been a Shichibukai for so he may just have well taken 1.5yrs to get up to 440m before becoming a ShiChiBukai.
Indeed, and Law is crazy person. He probably did something insane during the time skip.
Btw, Luffy SHOULD be much stronger than Law. We don't know how strong Law was at Sabaody. But Luffy trained with one of the strongest men in the whole world for two years. Law probably got much stronger in the New World. But it just doesn't make sense that he is stronger than Luffy.
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Theirs no way laws bounty went up to 440 for saving luffy, because why would he have a higher bounty then the person he actually saved.
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LOL–well, ftr, I myself do noit feel that the bounty raise was merely for saving Luffy, I was just trying to help the OP clarify his position.
And I sorta assume Luffy's bounty is up there, if Law's is at this amount. Oda has been carfty and cagey about the SHs bounties, so I imagine some fun will be ours at some point when they finally learn about them. Can not wait, personally.
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I thought I just glazed over something important, so I'm glad I didn't miss such an obvious set of dialogue.
I think part of it is that it makes no sense. Luffy since he got his 300 million bounty, defeated Moria (swept up), punched a Celestial Dragon in the face, escaped, broke into and led the biggest escape ever of Impel Down, showed up at Marineford, displayed Conqueror's Haki, and actually managed to get Ace free before Akainu magma-fisted him. Even counting for the Impel Down/Moria cover-ups, his bounty went from 300 million to 400 million.
Law…. saved Luffy. And gave the government 100 pirate hearts. His bounty is 440 million. That just really makes no sense if all things are equal, that saving Luffy is worse than everything Luffy has done in that interim period.
Remember, we still have no idea what Law did. Sending 100 pirate hearts is sick in itself, but god knows what he did to get those hearts. And who he screwed over in the process. Possibly some important people as well?
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I thought was pretty obvious that those bodies are that of level 6 prisoners, if so it wouldn't it seem weird that law giving them back the hearts of a hundred level 6 baddies would result in him getting a huge bounty and instant recognition as a shichibukai
and I'm tired of people saying law can't beat level 6 guys, there not all the same, the one's black beard got were the strongest, and although none of them are pushovers I think if your capable of being warlord power, one of the three powers that governs the entire world, you'd be able to fight level 6 prisoners
hell crocodile, and jinbei, two warlords were level 6 prisoners, do you think they were the weakest guys there???
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I thought was pretty obvious that those bodies are that of level 6 prisoners, if so it wouldn't it seem weird that law giving them back the hearts of a hundred level 6 baddies would result in him getting a huge bounty and instant recognition as a shichibukai
and I'm tired of people saying law can't beat level 6 guys, there not all the same, the one's black beard got were the strongest, and although none of them are pushovers I think if your capable of being warlord power, one of the three powers that governs the entire world, you'd be able to fight level 6 prisoners
hell crocodile, and jinbei, two warlords were level 6 prisoners, do you think they were the weakest guys there???
That's a good theory, actually. This is Oda, though. He may pull something else out that none of us were expecting.
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I would not be surprised if Oda off-paneled this Smoker and Law fight.
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The Smoker and Law fight will end in a draw because both characters Especially Smoker are in my opinion too important to the future story to kill one of them off. So I agree the fight will be off-paneled but we may seem little snippets of the fight if Oda feel's like showing anymore of Law's abilities or skills Smoker has developed since the war
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Wack theories this chapter has spawned in my mind:
-the frozen impel down inmates and the giant's corpse could be leftover from the Akainu Aokiji fight
-Franky Centarus is now a tank, I hope sideburns are next
-the satyr people look just like Magellan. Admiral Black-sheep anyone?
-the reason Law's former bounty was higher than Luffy's is because Law gave Luffy's heart to the World Goverment
-Super curious about momosuke's father, mostly just his name/420
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If Law would've taken the hearts of the escaped lvl 6 prisoners than it wouldn't make sense for them to be in the ice. If laws' ability makes it possible for someone to survive without his heart and he sent those (beating) hearts to the WG , the WG could do with those pirates whatever they want or just easily kill the pirate that doesn't comply. They would have a hundred pirate slaves doing their bidding and knowing the WG they'd use them…
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The Smoker and Law fight will end in a draw because both characters Especially Smoker are in my opinion too important to the future story to kill one of them off. So I agree the fight will be off-paneled but we may seem little snippets of the fight if Oda feel's like showing anymore of Law's abilities or skills Smoker has developed since the war
The can both survive a fight that doesn't end in a draw. Buggy wasn't killed when Smoker overpowered him in Lougetown. Its totally possible that one gets the upper hand, bue either - a)say its "too bothersome /not worth it to kill you" or b) as one has the upper hand is clearly winning, Strawhats come along and causes a scene. Either way would not be a draw but can cause a way for both to survive
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The can both survive a fight that doesn't end in a draw. Buggy wasn't killed when Smoker overpowered him in Lougetown. Its totally possible that one gets the upper hand, bue either - a)say its "too bothersome /not worth it to kill you" or b) as one has the upper hand is clearly winning, Strawhats come along and causes a scene. Either way would not be a draw but can cause a way for both to survive
That in it self causes the overall fight to be a draw in my opinion, yes someone may get an upper hand and then get interrupted resulting in match being a draw. You have a different opinion and I'm not going to fight on it cause I think we can all assume or have in our minds neither are going to die so the outcome is the same no matter what
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That in it self causes the overall fight to be a draw in my opinion, yes someone may get an upper hand and then get interrupted resulting in match being a draw. You have a different opinion and I'm not going to fight on it cause I think we can all assume or have in our minds neither are going to die so the outcome is the same no matter what
Yes we do have different definitions of "draw" and that's fine. We both put forward our opinions and agree not to draw it out because I agree to "not to fight on it". Everyone has a right to their own opinion… as long as they don't try to puch it down anothers throat.
There is debate, where both sides wish to ..."discuss" the issue; then there is the highly opinionated individuals that that does not acknowlegde that just because someone has a different stance does not mean that they are attacking said individual.
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sounds like Davy Jones in the Pirates of the Caribbean Movies. Interesting to say the least.
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Love the chapter. At first I thought Law ability was stupid, but after watching what he can do/ possibly can do I am impressed. Is it overpowered? I can't say that now because it has to have a weakness just like everybody else Devil Fruit powers. No idea the Smoker and Law fight was a possibilty, but let us see where Master Oda takes us from here. I love this manga. Love the Franky poise scene. Funny moment befor things turn ugly. luffy & company vs Boss. Sanji and company vs Master. Smoker vs Law. Can this manga get any better? And people had the nerve to say Oda fell off.
Perhaps we'll see how Haki is effected in Law's room.
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Dragon comes back and joins the crew. Calling it.
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Ok now with the Law- Smoker fight what effect would Law's cuts within his "room" have on Smoker if Law has developed CoA cause that would make this seemingly upcoming fight even more interesting.
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I've been going over it in my mind, i'm guessing it's nothing new but i sort of noticed how every strawhat has no actual close blood relatives and all had someone they looked up too die/tragedy occur.
I have a hard timing brainstorming on how using haki will affect law's room, most possibilities i come up with seem too underpowered (his cutting abilities with his DF won't be usable with haki but he can still imbue it to any weapon he chooses) or too overpowered( Fill the room with haki, making everything inside tangible- depending on the foes haki) it really depends on how Oda intends haki to be used. i won't comment on it and i'll just sit in excitement waiting for the day it's properly explained.
Also, while Law made a point to stop the marines in their tracks, he did nothing to the straw hats who are intruding in his facility rather more recklessly than the marines, so maybe he would like a little chat after all?
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I've been going over it in my mind, i'm guessing it's nothing new but i sort of noticed how every strawhat has no actual close blood relatives and all had someone they looked up too die/tragedy occur.
depends on your definition of "close".
Do you mean emotionally close? That is uaually described as connections or having a relationship with family. Then nope no one on the crew has anyone close family bonds. Since you used "close blood relation" most will think of it as not emotional but physical relations. Many people think of "close blood relation" as to how close the relation is, such like a father (imediate family) is a close relation, while some say a grandfather or uncle (extended family) is not close, since there is a generation (the parent) between them.I'm assuming that you were meaning emotional connection to blood relatives since most fans do know that both Luffy and Usopp have living fathers but don't know them.
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I have a feeling Oda is going to focus mainly on Luffy Group this chapter, of course right when things are about to go down with Law & Smoker. Then Luffy is going to start battling and the chapter will end and we'll get back to Nami-Group and Law/Smoker.
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Do you think there's any chance that Smoker isn't up to par at this current strength?
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I have a feeling Oda is going to focus mainly on Luffy Group this chapter, of course right when things are about to go down with Law & Smoker. Then Luffy is going to start battling and the chapter will end and we'll get back to Nami-Group and Law/Smoker.
I just hope you're wrong. Though sadly I have a feeling you might be right. Anyway, I would prefer to see at least smoker being able to hit law or making something about the ship…(which I pressume will fall this chapter). I see no reason to Law keeping the ship suspended in mid air unless he plans to use it as a weapon... I still dont think a massive ship can do a lot against smoke but still Tashigi might find it a bit more sweating.... or she could just pull a Mihawk/Zoro and split it in 2
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I still dont think a massive ship can do a lot against smoke but still Tashigi might find it a bit more sweating…. or she could just pull a Mihawk/Zoro and split it in 2
That would be awesome Tashigi showing that even though she is a woman she can do What great swordsman cand do. BUT then how would they get off the island?
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Do you think there's any chance that Smoker isn't up to par at this current strength?
Law or Luffy?
I hope he's able to beat Law relatively easily and have the upper hand in this battle; he was always "Luffy's nemesis"-kind of guy and relatively equal in strength, Luffy just couldn't touch him. If Law was shown as stronger or as strong as Smoker now, it'd really piss me off and I just have to hope that Luffy proves himself stronger than both of them.
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Smoker is gonna pick up the ship with his ability, calling it now.
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Law or Luffy?
I hope he's able to beat Law relatively easily and have the upper hand in this battle; he was always "Luffy's nemesis"-kind of guy and relatively equal in strength, Luffy just couldn't touch him. If Law was shown as stronger or as strong as Smoker now, it'd really piss me off and I just have to hope that Luffy proves himself stronger than both of them.
An ideal situation for me would be that Smoker would have some trouble with Law on his own, Taishigi would tip the odds in the Marine's favour and Luffy would accidentally own em both.
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I REALLY hope Luffy and crew for the rest of the series don't go around just owning everyone, like they kinda-sorta did in the Return of the Strawhat Crew and the Fishman Island story arcs; it'd be a HUGE turnoff for me. (I may even stop reading/watching the series if this becomes the case). That's why, when Luffy and crew confront Big Mam (or Kaido), I hope they get somewhat decimated the first time.
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I REALLY hope Luffy and crew for the rest of the series don't go around just owning everyone, like they kinda-sorta did in the Return of the Strawhat Crew and the Fishman Island story arcs; it'd be a HUGE turnoff for me. (I may even stop reading/watching the series if this becomes the case). That's why, when Luffy and crew confront Big Mam (or Kaido), I hope they get somewhat decimated the first time.
Oda won't do that.
Think of it like this: New World = Grand Line.
- "Return to Shabaody" arc = "East Blue arc" where they pretty much owned everyone they met quickly (with the exception of maybe Arlong and crew).
- Then we have the first arcs at the start of the New World where they may get roughed up a bit, but they are still pretty much on equal level with the other pirates.
- Toward the middle they will slowly but surely encounter the people far stronger than them. And then by the end of the series they will meet those at the very top and be somewhat as strong, but likely still not as strong.
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I REALLY hope Luffy and crew for the rest of the series don't go around just owning everyone, like they kinda-sorta did in the Return of the Strawhat Crew and the Fishman Island story arcs; it'd be a HUGE turnoff for me. (I may even stop reading/watching the series if this becomes the case). That's why, when Luffy and crew confront Big Mam (or Kaido), I hope they get somewhat decimated the first time.
From Alvida to Krieg they beat everyone pretty easily, and I bet you loved every moment of it. Even Arlong's guys weren't that big a deal, at least for Sanji and Zoro after dealing with their handicaps.
From Whiskey Peak until Wapol where was the real danger aside from Luffy getting tricked by Ms Goldenweek? I don't think people realize they love One Piece so much because the Straw Hat's tend to mow through everyone. Who doesn't love when back ground characters go "amazing!!! Who is the guy/girl?!"
Epic struggles for the majority of battles are for lesser comics. Oda is good at keeping things in perspective, so when a big shot does come around who is of equal or greater power, when the Straw Hat's win it means so much more.
Besides that Dragon actually but up a decent one chapter fight against Zoro and Luffy with an assist from Usopp. Better than the NFP did anyway. So I think you can expect more battles like that until major players come around.
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From Alvida to Krieg they beat everyone pretty easily, and I bet you loved every moment of it. Even Arlong's guys weren't that big a deal, at least for Sanji and Zoro after dealing with their handicaps.
From Whiskey Peak until Wapol where was the real danger aside from Luffy getting tricked by Ms Goldenweek? I don't think people realize they love One Piece so much because the Straw Hat's tend to mow through everyone. Who doesn't love when back ground characters go "amazing!!! Who is the guy/girl?!"
Epic struggles for the majority of battles are for lesser comics. Oda is good at keeping things in perspective, so when a big shot does come around who is of equal or greater power, when the Straw Hat's win it means so much more.
Besides that Dragon actually but up a decent one chapter fight against Zoro and Luffy with an assist from Usopp. Better than the NFP did anyway. So I think you can expect more battles like that until major players come around.
It doesn't hurt to have a couple "Kuma" (Kuma defeating (kinda-sorta) the entire crew 2 times) or "Crocodile" (Crocodile almost killing Luffy during the Alabasta story arc) moments thrown in though, breaks up the victories. Also, I'm fine with the Strawhats mowing down mere peons, but, big shots like Big Mam (and crew) I'm not. (Though…the "big" enemies since the timeskip have been pretty suckish).
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From Alvida to Krieg they beat everyone pretty easily, and I bet you loved every moment of it. Even Arlong's guys weren't that big a deal, at least for Sanji and Zoro after dealing with their handicaps.
From Whiskey Peak until Wapol where was the real danger aside from Luffy getting tricked by Ms Goldenweek? I don't think people realize they love One Piece so much because the Straw Hat's tend to mow through everyone. Who doesn't love when back ground characters go "amazing!!! Who is the guy/girl?!"
Epic struggles for the majority of battles are for lesser comics. Oda is good at keeping things in perspective, so when a big shot does come around who is of equal or greater power, when the Straw Hat's win it means so much more.
Besides that Dragon actually but up a decent one chapter fight against Zoro and Luffy with an assist from Usopp. Better than the NFP did anyway. So I think you can expect more battles like that until major players come around.
To be fair, Kreig was actually a really tough battle, that some even debate he lost
arlong was the toughest fights they had ever had at that point
then they showed they were grand line capable, until they came up on a huge grandline threat which was at alabsta, those were though fights, zoro was slashed to pieces, sanji fought a close to equal rival with blood all over him, nami got more mangled in that battle then any since, usopp had one of the most brutal scenes in the series yet, and luffy came with in an inch of dying three times
the problem is once they defeat there enemy there usually instantly healed making people forget how tough the fight was
Then CP9 required them to make new transformations or be destroyed, luffy, zoro, sanji, chopper all pulled transformations out of their asses to win, and luffy and chopper were crippled for a while after, usopp wasn't even capable of fighting at that level, and nami had to get a huge 100% upgrade, basically her whole fighting style was diffrent
and finally we have prime examples, aokiji destroying them, kuma destroying them at thriller bark, there utter defeat at sabody, and luffy being worthless against magellan or anyone in the war
it's fair to say he'll buff them up and then big Mom will be there awakening/need help from other rivals
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To be fair, Kreig was actually a really tough battle, that some even debate he lost
arlong was the toughest fights they had ever had at that point
then they showed they were grand line capable, until they came up on a huge grandline threat which was at alabsta, those were though fights, zoro was slashed to pieces, sanji fought a close to equal rival with blood all over him, nami got more mangled in that battle then any since, usopp had one of the most brutal scenes in the series yet, and luffy came with in an inch of dying three times
the problem is once they defeat there enemy there usually instantly healed making people forget how tough the fight was
Then CP9 required them to make new transformations or be destroyed, luffy, zoro, sanji, chopper all pulled transformations out of their asses to win, and luffy and chopper were crippled for a while after, usopp wasn't even capable of fighting at that level, and nami had to get a huge 100% upgrade, basically her whole fighting style was diffrent
and finally we have prime examples, aokiji destroying them, kuma destroying them at thriller bark, there utter defeat at sabody, and luffy being worthless against magellan or anyone in the war
it's fair to say he'll buff them up and then big Mom will be there awakening/need help from other rivals
Jinbe (and maybe Kid and crew, since he's attacking her already) will more than likely help them fight Big Mam, which should give the Strawhat's a nice little boost. (If Jinbe's to actually join the crew it will be during the story arc they fight her and her crew in OR after her defeat).
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Jinbe (and maybe Kid and crew, since he's attacking her already) will more than likely help them fight Big Mam, which should give the Strawhat's a nice little boost. (If Jinbe's to actually join the crew it will be during the story arc they fight her and her crew in OR after her defeat).
I'm still banking on a couple more allies we haven't heard about from him
I was hoping for them to reestablish the sabody rivalry between all three luffy, kid, and law there, but who knows now, unless that crazy prediction about this being some trick of the gas/liquid guy and that it's not really law, but that would be very un-oda like I feel