I thought Haoshoku haki was something the person is only born with. and then like all other haki's it develops as the person's "will" develops.
Well, yeah. Who thought otherwise?
I thought Haoshoku haki was something the person is only born with. and then like all other haki's it develops as the person's "will" develops.
Well, yeah. Who thought otherwise?
Well, yeah. Who thought otherwise?
Just the couple comments before me seemed like they were trying to say she developed Haoshoku when she became beautiful, but i may have interpreted wrong.
and the fact he never used haki against any of the Admirals…..
He did, see: Akainu's face.
I have a feeling Haki will not warn you of strikes if you're not looking for them from allies.
His focus was on all the enemies and mostly Sengoku to avoid having his crew sneak attacked, he didn't think of worrying about his allies/sons.
I don't think it's like spider-sense, it's like the force but even Jedi's get blind-sided.
He did, see: Akainu's face.
I have a feeling Haki will not warn you of strikes if you're not looking for them from allies.
His focus was on all the enemies and mostly Sengoku to avoid having his crew sneak attacked, he didn't think of worrying about his allies/sons.
I don't think it's like spider-sense, it's like the force but even Jedi's get blind-sided.
I dunno about that….i figured that was more to do with the point blank earth quake to the face than anything else....but maybe he did.....though that he may have just forced it out because of his anger...
It was mentioned that haki can warn you even from your friends. And the hit WB did to Akainu was so full of haki that it's obvious.
I thought that Haki was used to feel killing intent and not warn you from enemies and friends.
People…. Whitebeard was just old... He just didn't have so much control of his haki anymore. Remember the scene where Whitebeard was about to save Ace from being beheaded, using haoushoku haki, but was interrupted because of the pain, and Luffy used his haoushoku haki to save Ace instead.
We saw in the flashback that WB's CoO was very developed, Ace tried to attack him using every possible way, he attacked WB even during his sleep, and WB always knew it was coming and stopped him... But during the war it was clear that age had finally gotten to him, and the scene where he was stabbed by his subordinate was the proof. Reason why, BTW, the Marines dared to declare war against him only then, since they wouldn't have the strength (or the guts) to do it if he hadn't become weaker (they would have been crushed if they did).
Everyone says that whitebeard has Haoshoku but can someone please show me the chapter where it proves he has it. Because all of the chapter's i've read i cant find it in any.
Everyone says that whitebeard has Haoshoku but can someone please show me the chapter where it proves he has it. Because all of the chapter's i've read i cant find it in any.
Fossa comments on Luffy's haki outburst.
"The same haoshoku haki as pops and red-haired!" , roughly translated.
The translation from mangareader only noted "its sovereign haki", which is apparently wrong. (means they completely forgot to add Shanks and Whitebeard in the translation)
Fossa comments on Luffy's haki outburst.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9067/hakiw.jpg
"The same haoshoku haki as pops and red-haired!" , roughly translated.
The translation from mangareader only noted "its sovereign haki", which is apparently wrong. (means they completely forgot to add Shanks and Whitebeard in the translation)
Ahhh k thanks, was bugging me that every1 saying he has it but couldn't find where it said he does.
I think Luffy will reveal a new technique at some point where he uses his Busoshoku haki to vulcanize his whole body, like his own version of Tekkai.
I think Luffy will reveal a new technique at some point where he uses his Busoshoku haki to vulcanize his whole body, like his own version of Tekkai.
That is a high possibility.
I thought that Haki was used to feel killing intent and not warn you from enemies and friends.
You can see in the future briefly and 'feel' the presence of things with Observation
Luffy protecting his entire body with hardening is a logical extension of what he tried to do against Hody's bite, apply it onto his shoulder. Though I think he may just apply it whenever an attack comes instead of walking around perpetually with it, although I guess if it takes no effort that makes sense as well. This would also be in line with Kizaru's dodging of Whitebeard attempting to slash him if the Admirals have developed a skill where they, like this hypothetical Luffy technique, keep their Logia bodies permanently (well in combat situations anyway) imbued with Haki which effectively counters attacking Haki that isn't sufficiently powerful.
The cover of the new volume shows that Luffy creates the flames for Red Hawk before impact.
Zoro can Create Blue Flames.
Sanji can Light his entire body on fire at will.
The cover of the new volume shows that Luffy creates the flames for Red Hawk before impact.
Could be to look cool and sell the volume ,cause kids like bright colors,and fire.
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
Brook's new attack:
"Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
his devil fruit enable him to control his soul, apparently souls can do that.
Huh? When did that happen?
I guess he's talking about the end of Ryuuma fight
And then back at SA, Zoro and Sanji arguing..
I guess that's what he's saying
I guess he's talking about the end of Ryuuma fight
Now, that makes sense.
When I read "blue flames", I instantly thought of Marco for some reason.
And then back at SA, Zoro and Sanji arguing..
I guess that's what he's saying
But that's pretty much semi-filler.
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters…. "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
That's part of his DF power. He's apparently able to weaponize his soul. It's kinda hard to explain, but the concept is similar to how ghosts (which are souls) are usually said to make their surroundings cold to the living.
And then back at SA, Zoro and Sanji arguing..
I guess that's what he's saying
Yeeeah,that's to keep the kiddies entertained at 8:00 on Sunday mornings…..
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There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
Relevant info. Translation by greg from SBS:
"…if Luffy knocked out 50,000 people with Haoushoku, how many could Shanks have knocked out with Haki?" Oda suggests that Shanks could 'probably' have knocked out ALL 100,000 attackers under those exact conditions. He says in any other case, it's not just a question of 'how many'. Knocking out someone with Haki is a matter of what happens when there's an impressive difference in strength between two individuals. It's a matter of whether or not there are fighters that simply could not compare to Luffy or not. Furthermore, upon improvement of the technique, Haoushoku may also be applied only to specific individuals in a crowd.
Some ppl still think that DJ and Brook's technique have something to do with haki? LOOOOL!
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
1. We don't know. It hasn't been elaborated on since it appeared. Out of your three listed powers I think this is the most likely to be Ambition.
2. Not sure. Hasn't been stated to be Ambition yet, and that leads me to believe that it isn't. What would Oda have to gain from having Sanji explain this part of the ability later on when he had a battle showing his new strengths since the timeskip.
3. It's not Ambition. The other ones COULD be, but this one is completely his Devil Fruit. It's the same argument as saying Robin is using Ambition to make her sprouted limbs strong enough to maintain the form of a giant one.
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
1. I'm not really sure about this one, but it is the likely one to be Haki in my opinion. Or perhaps his will is strong enough to make his Asura technique.
2. Apparently, friction work a lot better in One Piece world than in real life.
3. It was stated to be the work of Brook's devil fruit.
1. We don't know. It hasn't been elaborated on since it appeared. Out of your three listed powers I think this is the most likely to be Ambition.
2. Not sure. Hasn't been stated to be Ambition yet, and that leads me to believe that it isn't. What would Oda have to gain from having Sanji explain this part of the ability later on when he had a battle showing his new strengths since the timeskip.
3. It's not Ambition. The other ones COULD be, but this one is completely his Devil Fruit. It's the same argument as saying Robin is using Ambition to make her sprouted limbs strong enough to maintain the form of a giant one.
What exactly is 'ambition'? Is that a form of Haki? Thanks for the reply btw.
What exactly is 'ambition'? Is that a form of Haki? Thanks for the reply btw.
Ambition is the literal translation for Haki. Sorry for confusing you, but in my point of view, and many others, the word Haki should be translated. And technically it is a 'form' of Haki. Conquerors Haki that Luffy, Whitebeard etc. have, the 'one in a million' Haki seems to be linked to a persons personal ambition and willpower.
Ambition is the literal translation for Haki. Sorry for confusing you, but in my point of view, and many others, the word Haki should be translated. And technically it is a 'form' of Haki. Conquerors Haki that Luffy, Whitebeard etc. have, the 'one in a million' Haki seems to be linked to a persons personal ambition and willpower.
Somebody some time ago (possibly in this very thread) once suggested translating "Haki" to "Drive". I personally like it more than "Ambition".
Somebody some time ago (possibly in this very thread) once suggested translating "Haki" to "Drive". I personally like it more than "Ambition".
I've also grown fond of using "Spirit" instead. It fits with the same terminology as ambition or drive("he's got a fighting spirit") and it sounds generically Shonen enough to not be mistaken with something else. Many people find Haki to be similar to Ki or Spirit Energy in other series.
OMG, luffy just got even more badass with Haki!!!! If that is even possible in the first place :P
There are some unexplained powers in the SH group that could be haki but also could be something else entirely…
1. Zoro's Asura technique
2. Sanji's Diablo Jambe
3. Brook's Freezing technique in the recent chapters.... "Brook has named his sword "Soul Solid", due to him developing the ability to coat it with the aura of his soul, freezing it in the process" which doesn't explain a whole lot.
Anybody have any solid theories on these?
1.Asspull
2.Asspull
3.Df power
Somebody some time ago (possibly in this very thread) once suggested translating "Haki" to "Drive". I personally like it more than "Ambition".
That was me! Yay, my words are slightly infectious.
Random theory I have on Conqueror's Haki:
Raleigh said that Conqueror's Haki is imposing your will upon someone else in essence. We've seen it used in the manga thus far for its knockout effects as a primary effect. I think that with Conqueror's Haki, there has to be something more to it than just knocking people out because, quite frankly, that's a weak-ass power. Its constantly established that fodder is just that, fodder, and a million marines would fall in second to Luffy without putting a scratch on him most likely (the strawhats took out 50k fishmen without really breaking a sweat at all, and presumably these were the stronger fishmen that resisted Luffy's Haki, so they're a level above fodder).
Theory: We've seen alternate uses of Conqueror's Haki at least twice, possibly three or 4 times, in the series.
Luffy: There is a scene during Impel Down where Buggy is saying he doesn't want to do something (not sure the chapter, anyone can post the scan if they remember), and then Luffy basically tells him to do it, and Buggy agrees, and then comments after the fact about how weird it is to agree to it. Its also been commented many times that Luffy just seems to get people to ally around him and follow him. I'm thinking that these are cases where Luffy, unknowingly, uses his Conqueror's Haki to get people to follow him, or have faith/believe in him (similar to his crew members).
Hancock: The Mero-Mero fruit has the power to turn who lust after Hancock into stone. At first, I thought the ability to make people think she's beautiful was just a side-effect of the fruit, but the more I've thought about it, I think this is an effect of her Conqueror's Haki. There are many instances where someone of weaker willpower is angry at Hancock, and then she does her beautiful pose, and everyone gets the heart-eye effect from it. Luffy has resisted it, and there have been others (Smoker, Jimbei, Law, Rayleigh) who have never shown lust toward Boa Hancock. Also, there is this:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2623-15/one-piece/chapter-516.html
Momonga is I think the perfect example here. She does her "I am Beautiful" pose, and Momonga doesn't go heart-eyed at all. Now yes, he does stab himself to avoid getting stoned, but I don't think he needed to do so there, because he didn't have the lust or was consumed by it (although, not knowing the full extent of her fruit, he did so on the safe side). Considering that only people who are extremely powerful have not gone heart-eyed, I think that this itself is Boa using her Conqueror's Haki, since their will over-rides the will of Hancock, or at least resists it.
Possible examples:
Whitebeard: He's said to have it, but never showed using it. I think its possible that Whitebeard and his ability to inspire unwavering loyalty in his men could be a result of his Conqueror's Haki use, which, since he is the most powerful man in the world, even most of the NW Pirates/Commanders could come under influence of it (ala Ace).
Brooke: Crazy, but here me out. Many of Brooke's music-based attacks are based upon making people do what they don't want to do, or him imposing his will on others. While certainly likely he has powers similar to Jango where the music acts as mind-control, and probably isn't, I'm throwing it out there right now: Brooke for Conqueror's Haki!
Random theory I have on Conqueror's Haki:
Raleigh said that Conqueror's Haki is imposing your will upon someone else in essence. We've seen it used in the manga thus far for its knockout effects as a primary effect. I think that with Conqueror's Haki, there has to be something more to it than just knocking people out because, quite frankly, that's a weak-ass power. Its constantly established that fodder is just that, fodder, and a million marines would fall in second to Luffy without putting a scratch on him most likely (the strawhats took out 50k fishmen without really breaking a sweat at all, and presumably these were the stronger fishmen that resisted Luffy's Haki, so they're a level above fodder).
Theory: We've seen alternate uses of Conqueror's Haki at least twice, possibly three or 4 times, in the series.
Luffy: There is a scene during Impel Down where Buggy is saying he doesn't want to do something (not sure the chapter, anyone can post the scan if they remember), and then Luffy basically tells him to do it, and Buggy agrees, and then comments after the fact about how weird it is to agree to it. Its also been commented many times that Luffy just seems to get people to ally around him and follow him. I'm thinking that these are cases where Luffy, unknowingly, uses his Conqueror's Haki to get people to follow him, or have faith/believe in him (similar to his crew members).
Hancock: The Mero-Mero fruit has the power to turn who lust after Hancock into stone. At first, I thought the ability to make people think she's beautiful was just a side-effect of the fruit, but the more I've thought about it, I think this is an effect of her Conqueror's Haki. There are many instances where someone of weaker willpower is angry at Hancock, and then she does her beautiful pose, and everyone gets the heart-eye effect from it. Luffy has resisted it, and there have been others (Smoker, Jimbei, Law, Rayleigh) who have never shown lust toward Boa Hancock. Also, there is this:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2623-15/one-piece/chapter-516.html
Momonga is I think the perfect example here. She does her "I am Beautiful" pose, and Momonga doesn't go heart-eyed at all. Now yes, he does stab himself to avoid getting stoned, but I don't think he needed to do so there, because he didn't have the lust or was consumed by it (although, not knowing the full extent of her fruit, he did so on the safe side). Considering that only people who are extremely powerful have not gone heart-eyed, I think that this itself is Boa using her Conqueror's Haki, since their will over-rides the will of Hancock, or at least resists it.
Possible examples:
Whitebeard: He's said to have it, but never showed using it. I think its possible that Whitebeard and his ability to inspire unwavering loyalty in his men could be a result of his Conqueror's Haki use, which, since he is the most powerful man in the world, even most of the NW Pirates/Commanders could come under influence of it (ala Ace).
Brooke: Crazy, but here me out. Many of Brooke's music-based attacks are based upon making people do what they don't want to do, or him imposing his will on others. While certainly likely he has powers similar to Jango where the music acts as mind-control, and probably isn't, I'm throwing it out there right now: Brooke for Conqueror's Haki!
You're overthinking it, mainly because it was mentioned that those born with CoC have a natural charisma and are natural leaders, so it's not surprising that Luffy always gets it his way.
I did think you had a point there until you mentioned Brook.
Well, him aside, I think it's somewhat plausible if we don't actually treat Kingbition as the source of "rallying people" etc but rather two things that go hand in hand and are more or less the same. It's Luffy's strong will that makes him have the King's Haki, and it is his strong will that makes people believe in him. There is of course a correlation but that doesn't imply causation.
Coby will be the next shown master of CoO next time he's introduced.
I know this was isn't cannon and it's probably been discussed, but i didn't want to go through almost 200 pages looking. (Apologies)
In episode 395 Zoro definitely uses CoC to the guy in the group of people he's asking directions to.
My question is wouldn't Toei need permission from Oda to put that in the anime since it's only certain people can obtain it, and Oda hasn't even confirmed him having any sort of haki yet.
Again sorry if it's been discussed
Well no he's not using Haki.
1. coz it's not canon
2. it's.. just not Haki. No matter what it implies, it's not even depicted the same as Luffy's Kingbition, it's totally different.
So, no, they don't need to ask him for that coz he's not using it. Period.
how is he not using it?
He is simply looking up. There is no shockwave, like when Luffy uses it, none of them faints. It's simply a depiction of his high killing intent that scares the shit out of them.
@nodensuke:
how is he not using it?
Because he's not,just deal with it.
He is simply looking up. There is no shockwave, like when Luffy uses it, none of them faints. It's simply a depiction of his high killing intent that scares the shit out of them.
That makes sense, I just thought there was no shock wave because he's barely developed the ability/has no idea he's even using it. But, it's not even Canon so oh well.
@Baou:
Because he's not,just deal with it.
Gotcha! Thanks.
Another reason why I absolutely detest the anime.
The only thing detestable about the anime is when the arc picks up the beginning of each episode there's a 5-6 minute recap of the last episod, and pointless flash backs.