JESUS CHRIST! WHAT NIGHTMARE IN HELL DID HE FUEL FROM!?!
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JESUS CHRIST! WHAT NIGHTMARE IN HELL DID HE FUEL FROM!?!
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I just have to say it…that is one good looking dog.
And somehow Haddock (the little we saw) and the Thompson brothers look good too. Tintin...yeah, still looks freaky.
Sheesh, they couldn't have made his eyes darker or something? Why blue eyes?
It seems that they're using the story of The Crab with the Golden Claws in the movie. It's good way to introduce Haddock (I hope they let him be drunk), but this probably means that professor Calculus really won't appear in the film.
I never even heard of the Tin-tin comic series until the movie was announced, but it seemed interesting. After watching the trailer and seeing that it was a similar animation style as The Polar Express and Beowulf, I am a little turned off. I think they should have either gone full blown live action or full blown animated. Hand drawn or Pixar style is fine. But the faces looking so real, but at the same time not, is kind of creepy.
Here is the trailer:
And Tintin (Kuifje) doesnt look that bad. All the other characters look amazing. So I have really high hope that this movie. Is going to be awesome.
But the faces looking so real, but at the same time not, is kind of creepy.
That's known as the Uncanny Valley. Its a side effect of CGI rendering being SO complex that it strives for perfect realism, but because we know what people look like so well, something is just OFF about it and its weird and creepy. The skin doesn't look real enough, or the eyes have no soul, or the lip flaps are awkward, or the character just moves weird, any number of things can destroy the illusion and it messes with us, especially if its consistently off for an hour and a half.
When its more cartoony we accept it easier. Because its not trying to fool our brain into thinking its reality.
Something Pixar apparently gets but the motion-capture people don't.
Seriously, all the other characters (Captain Haddock, Thomson and Thompson) look fine, because they look like their comic forms, but Tintin . . . . .
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nobody escapes the valley
What an ugly child…. He looks like he's been chiselled out of a 2000 year old iceberg, loincloth and club included.
Either that or he's a relative of Wayne Rooney.
The biggest mistake in that trailer is that Tintin's clip gives him a Cro-Magnon look with his hair cut off like that. If there was a shot of him will all his hair, I don't think it would look that bad, with his forehead in more proportion with the length of his bangs
I don't think Tintin looks all that bad and lacks that plastic look most mo-caps have. But it should have been 100% CGI animated.
I bet current delays are due to modifying it for 3D theaters
Well, the still-shot does look uncomfortably reminiscent of The Polar Express, but in motion I didn't think it was that bad. Well, nothing to do but wait for more footage, I suppose.
So they're mashing together The Crab with the Golden Claws and The Secret of the Unicorn, huh? Pity they'll probably have to cut out a good chunk of the former's story. Too bad that means we won't be seeing Calculus. I wonder what they'll do with the segue to Red Rackham's Treasure that was in the original.
meh. if it does good in theatres they'll do another.
I think a bigger problem for motion capture films isn't the uncanny valley, but just the simple hard fact that most of them are okay films at best. There's just not enough in there to draw the viewer in to the extent that they can overlook the odd features of the characters.
meh. if it does good in theatres they'll do another.
Its already intended to be three films.
And regardless of how well it does stateside, its probably going to do huuuuuge overseas. Tintin is a pretty iconic multi-generational character everywhere in the world but America, and the sheer amount of talent attached to the movie makes me hopeful.
Mofatt taking a pass at writing it alone has me excited.
That's what I figured. Even if this tanks in the states it'll make a killing in Europe.
It's the eyes. They've apparently given him some big baby blues, which just doesn't look right. At least not right now.
@Sonic:
I don't get the problem with tintin, he have an egg shaped head with some mustard on top and two big black dots for eyes.
Look at those red baby cheeks….
How did you imagine him?
With an egg shaped head with some mustard on top and two big black dots for eyes?
They're going to the trouble of cartooning the characters up, but he still just looks like a real person. Might as well have just put a real actor in there if you were going to go for that level of realism.
I dunno. Higher eyebrows? A little chubbier maybe?
I hope when it comes to it they adapt secret of the unicorn as well as nelvana. Though Moffat's only working on the first one, so…
The problem is that they seem like they're obsessed in giving off Herge's stylized cartooniness, and yet Tintin's eyes don't keep with the consistancy. I understand that they probably want to make it more believable, but Herge's art style speaks for itself.
Well…at least he looks better than the Smurfs...
I don't see why they would go with Crab with the Golden Claws at all. With Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure, you have a perfect adventure there with all the great characters including Prof. Calculus.
I don't see why they would go with Crab with the Golden Claws at all. With Secret of the Unicorn and Red Rackham's Treasure, you have a perfect adventure there with all the great characters including Prof. Calculus.
My theory: to sort of establish and develop Haddock. While it would be interesting to just start with him at the start of "Secret of the Unicorn", it's more interesting to see him from "The Crab with the Golden Claws" because that's the start of his character arc, going from some washed-up drunk on the same boat as Tintin's to a still-rough and tumble but rich heir of a great pirate. Unlike Tintin who was around from the start and really didn't have too much "development" per-se, Haddock has a character arc that develops him through these three stories in particular.
Though personally I sort of wish that "Crab with the Golden Claws" sort of was more a "flashback tale" with "Secret of the Unicorn" as the main one, but we'll see how that develops. (since they'll essentially be doing the same thing if they get to the third movie of this trilogy, which is going to be "The Blue Lotus" [without "Cigars of the Pharaohs" first, mind you] with "Tintin in Tibet")
I sort of bemoan no Calculus too but I guess that's why the second movie should be "Seven Crystal Balls"/"Prisoners of the Sun", which is his most important story.
Seven crystal balls / Prisoners of the sun is probably my all-time favourite TinTin story arc, so no complaints there. I remember first reading it and feeling the suspense and mystery it held, and it was a pretty cool feeling to have from "just" a comic.
I would've loved to see the moon travel storyline in movie form too. TinTin in Tibet is a good choice, yes, and I guess they had to establish Chang before doing that one.
It really looks amazing and faithful to the source material. Once again, the 3D seems pointless. It really has an Indiana Jones trilogy feeling.
This is what happens when George Lucas is not involved in any way.
A new international trailer is out:
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/new-international-tintin-trailer.html
Geez, why does Tintin look so off? They got everybody right (Haddock, Thomson and Thompson, etc.) except Tintin.
Seven crystal balls / Prisoners of the sun is probably my all-time favourite TinTin story arc, so no complaints there. I remember first reading it and feeling the suspense and mystery it held, and it was a pretty cool feeling to have from "just" a comic.
I would've loved to see the moon travel storyline in movie form too. TinTin in Tibet is a good choice, yes, and I guess they had to establish Chang before doing that one.
Blue Lotus is both way ahead of it's time (depiction of China) and extremely dated (depiction of Japan for the most part). For those same reasons it's way too political for a big studio to take up on.
@Monkey:
Blue Lotus is both way ahead of it's time (depiction of China) and extremely dated (depiction of Japan for the most part). For those same reasons it's way too political for a big studio to take up on.
Personally I really don't see "The Blue Lotus" without "Cigars of the Pharaohs" (maybe they could do a DTV/internet version of "Cigars of the Pharaohs" that leads into that movie to fill in some stuff), but with "Tintin in Tibet" one of the crown jewels of the franchise, they need to somehow make it work.
International trailer: the eyes still disturb me on Tintin but the way Snowy and the Thompsons worked out was brilliant.
An article from IGN about Spielberg and Jackson rocking Comic-Con hard, and talking a bit about Tintin too:
http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1183675p1.html
Here is a new trailer. But it is only in German.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=82523
It looks really awesome. I Just can't wait for october 26 when it is in theaters in Holland
Here's a short clip:
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/14/exclusive-tintin-wrong-lifeboat-clip
Can't tell much from that short a clip, but the animation is looking awesome.
The new trailer looks cool. The animation looks like it'll hold up better and with less uncanny valley than it seemed from the earlier clips. Getting a continuous scene seems to work better than fast clips.
Hrm, does Tin Tin count as live action or as an animated? Its animated… but its motion capture. Should it be in the other section?
yes
i really wanna know what's going on in that scene. :)
An interview with Steven Spielberg on Tintin:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmmakersonfilm/8825003/Steven-Spielberg-on-making-The-Adventures-of-Tintin.html?_r=true
And it includes a clip of Thomson and Thompson! (lol!)
Can't believe this is already premiering next week over here. Smart move by Spielberg to raise the hype in Europe where Tintin is already well known and then move to the States a little while later, where by then there will be some buzz going around.
And here's a new trailer!
From what I heard the movie is pretty good , looking forward for it
Uh
Well
That wasn't at all what I expected from a Unicorn/Golden claws mixup.
I'll most likely wind up seeing it, but I'm a bit wary about the new role of Saccharin and the "history changing" secret of the Unicorn.
It looks good, but I'm wary about the storyline changes. Excited to see it nonetheless.
Early reviews are coming in and while Tintin fans HATE it with a passion, most critics said it was very enjoyable.
Heh.
Well I was able to watch the Downey Holmes film without bugging out, so hopefully when I see it in a couple of days I'll be able to enjoy it for what it is.
Puh! Lucky me, even though I've read all the Tintin's, I don't consider myself such a hardcore fan I can't watch an americanized version of it.
As long as it's not 3D I'll pay for it.
Early reviews are coming in and while Tintin fans HATE it with a passion, most critics said it was very enjoyable.
So it's like pretty much every adaptation ever. Casual fans or newcomers with no expectations love it, and hardcore fans who want total faithfullness will nitpick it to death. I fear that I'll end up in the latter category, but I'll try my damndest to give it a chance for being what it is.
I'm curious as to how the overall european review scores will compare to american.
Just watched it. Very good film, but yeah, if you go into it expecting it to bear more then a superficial relationship to Secret of the Unicorn, you'll definitely be disappointed. It has splashes of Golden Claw, Unicorn & Red Rackham, some homages to other books and quite a lot that is entirely new or changed.
After about 10 mins into the film, I stopped expecting a faithful translation of the comic book and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Oh, and the opening credits are superb.
Just watched it. It's been years since I last went to the cinema and I really enjoyed it. I am also a big fan of the comic but it helps that I didn't read them since I was a child. So it was fresh to me and really enjoyable. I liked everything about it.People who want a frame to frame adaptation don't understand a thing about movies, I felt it stayed true to the spirit of the comic and Herge's humor, and the animation tech was amazing.And yeah the opening credits were amazing, I agree with Darkstorm on that.
Being non-spoilery, why are the opening credits so good? Just a great action sequence or something unique about them?
How creepy was TinTin's face? I recall lots of concern for that when trailers came out.
Well, how could I explain it. Let's say it's just the right appetizer, before the main dish.A mini mini short story with great music that sets the mood just right for what's to come.
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Nothing remained of that silicon-thingy. I'm not a good judge about these kind of things but I found the animation very well done.I didn't watch it in 3d so I can't say anything about that.
The thing people fear most with motion-cap is the "Uncanny Valley" look to the characters. Did Tintin suffer from that?
@RobbyBevard:
Being non-spoilery, why are the opening credits so good? Just a great action sequence or something unique about them?
Basicallly what mugi said. And very stylishly done too.
How creepy was TinTin's face? I recall lots of concern for that when trailers came out.
Much less creepy, but still slightly off to me. I'd have preferred that the whole thing was done as a cartoon, but it worked. Some of the locations were amazing.
Has the movie some music from the old cartooon or not?