Felch Discussion Part 4

Mortea

Toriko doesn't really replace Bleach as the third most popular manga in Jump.
Third place usually rotates around Bleach, Toriko, Beelzebub, Bakuman or Gintama. If I'm not wrong, Reborn, Sket Dance, Kuroko and others have also achieved third place before, so it's less of a Big 3, but Big 2 instead.

Obligatory.
Second. Fellas, now, when Bleach sunk (I hope for good), it is meaningless to still keep the Big Three title. You all know where the roots of that title lie. So I purpose we start new order - the Big One (or two, if you are a traitor) , good mangas, garbage and Bleach. There can't be 3rd because other good mangas get to 3rd or even 2nd place from time to time. While 1st is always occupied by Man Piece.
Or simply stop the Big Three talk. We all want a stabile graph, but I doubt that will work now.

Tokoro Ataru

Sadly no matter how much we want to make it just one, Naruto isn't going away until it ends. Think of it though as the jester who is right next to the king (OP obviously): sure it occasionally provides amusement but it's usually annoying and you can't get rid of it.

No Maam

@Tokoro:

Sadly no matter how much we want to make it just one, Naruto isn't going away until it ends. Think of it though as the jester who is right next to the king (OP obviously): sure it occasionally provides amusement but it's usually annoying and you can't get rid of it.

So whose the manager of the royal latrine then ? :ninja:

BatDan

@No:

So whose the manager of the royal latrine then ? :ninja:

That rotates. Last year the cleaners were Metallica Metullica, Lightwing, and SWOT. Right now it's probably Dois Sol.

Silverblade

Tsukishima being connected to the milf is a possibility among others. But what got me to thinking was this page: what if there are actually two Tsukishimas, the real one, Tsukishima who cuts, and the fake one, Tsukishima who penetrates. And there's some deal about them, like one of them is actually Aizen who run away the next day after his imprisonment and-

I apologize.

Hm, what about this: Vaizard, whom Kubo hyped for a long time and who were given even a flashback to establish them somewhat, received no panel time, got horrible exposure at the final battle and actually were used as jobbing fodder. And now, we have basically the same group of supporting characters, but without any hype, any backstory and memorable designs. Question is, how much worse will the Fullbringers get fucked and will anyone care?

@No:

I only watched the anime …...and then read the last chapter when the real final volume came out.

My feelings were equivalent to mush.

How does this happen that you are often familiar with the worst possible parts of a franchise?

Strawhat Chan

@loledinmypants:

Wonderweiss's power, while engineered to be that way, was still lame. And he was shoved in our faces for a while whenever any of the 3 traitor captains were on-panel. So I expected more. And somehow he inexplicably beat Kensei while being designed as a counter for Yamamoto's FIRE powers. Kensei had a WIND based power from what little we saw.

And yes, Superchunky was terrible too, I just didn't remember if it even had an official name and didn't think of using the unofficial name.

And I wouldn't know about the anime. Dropped it after Muramasa filler. Might pick it up for decent filler arcs, but I'm not sitting through the torture of canon Felch a second time.

How can Aizen even engineer an Arrancar's ability? :wassat:
Not with the Hogyoku, I think. Since even though it can makes wishes come true, it doesn't really work like that. Making Wonderweiss an counter for Ryuujin Jakka wasn't Aizen's most innate with or whatever, and Wonderweiss himself is a complete retard so he can't really wish anything like that.

No Maam

@Silverblade:

How does this happen that you are often familiar with the worst possible parts of a franchise?

What do you mean ?

MetaMario

@loledinmypants:

And somehow he inexplicably beat Kensei while being designed as a counter for Yamamoto's FIRE powers. Kensei had a WIND based power from what little we saw.

Easily one of the worst parts of Fake Karakura. I know Kubo's memory sucks, but you'd think he would remember a fight that began literally 20 minutes or so in manga time and about 20 chapters in real time.

Not even a courtesy to show him defeated, nothing. Maybe he fled? No, he just freaking disappeared.

RPGJay

The only fullbringer I give a care about is Yukio, the little boy. For only two reasons:

He has a PSP which he may use as his fullbring
He has a large disdain for Riruka. This makes me instantly like him

Gliblord

@RPGJay:

The only fullbringer I give a care about is Yukio, the little boy. For only two reasons:

He has a PSP which he may use as his fullbring
He has a large disdain for Riruka. This makes me instantly like him

Since this is the series of perpetual disappointment, prepare for Yukio to propose to Riruka by the end of the arc

RPGJay

Yeah I know I know, but I can dream can't I?

Bobjr

Well he also has a chance of being forgotten completely too, seeing as this is Bleach.

The Spaceman

I keep forgetting about him and that guy from Fullmetal Alchemist. And Ichigo's employer. If it wasn't for this thread I would have completely forgotten her.

Gliblord

I like how Kubo even carried over Bradley's eyepatch. If you're going to be a blatant character design plagiarist might as well go all the way I guess.

Bobjr

Well now it's a cloth instead of an official eyepatch. Kubo probably thought that was enough change.

Though I do hear a bunch of people just call it a homage.

No Maam

@Bobjr:

Well now it's a cloth instead of an official eyepatch.

And it looks fricken silly.

MetaMario

Spoilers for this week's chapter.

! Credits: Ohana
Verification: Confirmed
Translation: Sheetz_flol
パラ見。
ドールハウスで、ぐったりジャッキー
イチゴの姿にビックリ銀城
チャド、苺のフルブリングを理解する
イチゴ、月島を見て誰か理解出来ない。
まだ月島の事を話してないチャド
チャド、焦って月島に攻撃。
マンションがボロボロに。。
イチゴ、チャドに気を使わせてすまなかった～～～
イチゴ、月島に石田と井上斬ったのはお前か～～～
月島　どうかな？
月島VSイチゴ
今の能力になれないイチゴ
月島が押してる。
間に入る銀城。
パラ見でサーセイ★
! Jackie is completely exhausted in the dollhouse.
Ginjou is surprised at Ichigo’s appearance.
Chad understands that it’s Ichigo’s fullbring.
Ichigo looks at Tsukishima and can’t figure out who he is.
Chad isn’t talking about Tsukishima anymore.
Chad quickly attacks Tsukishima.
They tear up the place.
Ichigo says to Chad that he’s sorry for drawing his attention.
Ichigo asks Tsukishima if he’s the one who cut Ishida and Inoue.
Tsukishima: “What if I am?”
Tsukishima vs Ichigo
Ichigo’s not used to his current abilities.
So Tsukishima is pressuring him.
Ginjou steps in.
BLEACH 445 END

Yawn….

Tokoro Ataru

You know I just had a stupid realization the other day regarding this whole Fullbringer nonsense: it's all an excuse so that Ichigo can start "powering up" with his human side alongside his Shinigami and Hollow stuff. And furthermore, he's essentially "wearing his Shinigami outfit on his human body" now instead of just leaving it behind is just to probably throw this whole "integrate all sides to make him the ultimate being" whatnot. (that and make Kon completely useless aside being comic relief)

If I didn't hate this series so much, I would have thought maybe Kubo was trying.

No Maam

Oddly enough it seems more could be happening this week, but it's all an illusion.

Mr M

bleach uses being boring

mette falls asleep

BatDan

reads this week's TOC
Wahahahaha!

MDL

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BigLuffy559

Why is Ichigo's Fullbring so boring? With how random the other Fullbring powers are, Kubo pretty much had a free pass to make Ichigo's power into ANYTHING he could imagine, and all we get is some wanna-be shinigami powers. I'm not impressed.

Panekai

How fitting that Ichigo transforms into a splattered ink blot.

f-trash

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/6

Wait, what? Didn't they make a huge deal out of them being unable to get Ichigo out of the dollhouse before?
By the way, what happens if the object giving you your fullbring powers gets destroyed? Since that COULD explain them not just destroying that thing in case Ichigo would have been in real danger.

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/8

…first thought it's ANOTHER from behind.

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/10

Excuse me? He defeated Grimmjow and Ulquiorra only BECAUSE of Orihime being in danger.

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/17

Wasn't his sword supposed to cut through anything?

–-
Still, overall a decent chapter, I liked the fighting scenes more than most recent Bleach fights.

Outerspec

Wow, I actually liked this chapter. Much better than the training at least.

No Maam

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/10

….WHY ? Fighting for his friends is prety much the sole existing motivation he has ever shown !

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/11

Yeah, he heard you when you were two feet away, what a shock.

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/12

Oh and he didn't even know that she was attacked to this point, how about some surprise ?

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/89889984/15

Ah Kubo's re-read the first training chapter.

Sonic Youth

Well, at least this chapter had some fighting. I'd give it that.

But did they even explain how they can jump around in mid-air? I don't get it.

Crossword

Well, aside from the panel of Chad lunging to attack Tsukishima looking rather unfortunate, I guess there really wasn't anything that dumb here, if only because it was mostly action, not exposition.

But did they even explain how they can jump around in mid-air? I don't get it.

It was said a while back that you could apply Fullbring powers to things like the air and the ground to jump higher and whatnot. Though not that that's really special given that the Shinigami have been doing that since the beginning.

No Maam

How about Ichigo not being at all surpised or concerned when Chad suddenly mentions Orihime being attacked ?

Crossword

I dunno, he doesn't look too pleased, to say the least, when he's attacking Tsukishima after he's all ''So what if I was?''

Ichigo's never been one to wear his heart on his sleeve when it comes to his emotions, so I can buy his seeming underreactions. To a point.

No Maam

But why doesn't he at least show some concern about her condition, when he has no idea when it happened and what had happened ?

Sonic Youth

And why is eyepatch-girl lying on the floor being all "uuugh… ichigo"?

No Maam

She doesn't have an eyepatch.

Sonic Youth

But it's covering her eye.

Also, had to read Bleach again from the beginning. (I have only fully read volume one so…)

Ah, back when Bleach actually was funny!?

!

David Ludwig

I'm just surprised Chad attacked from the front.

Everyone always seems to zip around to the back of a person before launching a useless attack.

THE SEA

Tsukishima-san is an incredibly boring and bland character. If he can even be called a character, since he has like no character at all.

No Maam

Then I guess he fits right in with the rest of the fullbringers.

Sonic Youth

I miss Ichigos dad, back when he was fun.

MetaMario

Read the chapter. It wasn't half bad, but honestly any "fight" involving Ichigo seems to be kinda bland. Anyway….

Pros:
-Loved how Yukio called Riruka annoying. He really is the only (psuedo-) likeable Fullbringer.
-Action, something Bleach has lacked for months.

Cons:
-Ichigo's "fullbring" hardly seems to be anything special.
-Tsukishima is even blander than Aizen. I didn't think that was possible.
-Wish Chad got an attack in.

Futhermore, I don't see the point of Kugo jumping in. I think Tsukishima's just gonna kick his ass pretty easily. (like Aizen would do to someone, what a shock)

Big_Bad_Lith

this chapter was okay. Not horrible like the last few.

Bleach is at its best when it does action, and even that it doesn't do very well, but whatever.

I think people in Bleach need to stop hiding information from each other for no reason. It is just stupid.

Narutossss

wooow toriko is slowly taking bleach's spot in the big 3 wow.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/35896723/1

Tokoro Ataru

Upon reading the chapter…yeah, the comment I said was not too bad but...why the heck did it turn him into that stupid, boring, overused Bankai? Now all they did was throw away the whole need to become a Shinigami and then "release": all he has to do now is get dressed and....bam, Bankai form.

And...yeah, Chad did nothing when he wanted to help, what else is new.

StrawHatRican

Anyone else think it's funny that Chad, who has been getting his ass kicked for GOD knows how long, was making it sound like HE should take on the new baddie instead of Ichigo cuz he "wasn't ready?"

Man…

This manga sometimes.

Nobodyman

Okay, so now we're back to fullbringers being able to fullbring any object and not just an object they have a deep personal attachment to?

MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MIND KUBO!!!

StrawHatRican

You're asking Kubo for consistency…?

Nobodyman.

:cwy:

Tokoro Ataru

They sort of explained they can fullbring simple stuff but have one sort of "super Fullbring"…earlier in the arc but it probably doesn't even matter anymore anyway.

BTW: with our thread about to hit close status, my new suggestion for thread title (seeing we're hitting #5) is simple:

Aizen's Super-Fun Time Thread (AKA: Bleach/Felch/Belch/Blech Thread 5)

StrawHatRican

I nominate the thread name Tite Kubo's A Series of Unfortunate Clichés

Cyan D. Funk

Oh My God Just End Already Discussion Part 5

C_uggs

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz … What ??? Action in bleach ?? Finally !!
Let's see if this Tsukishima guy can do a better job than Aizen.

And some plot holes.