we really need a map of FI and surrounding areas. Also I think Luffy vs VDD is almost a sure thing because he promised to block anything thrown at shirahoshi, and obviously the source of those anythings is VDD.
Chapter 617: "The Shocking Incident at Coral Hill" Discussion
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Not really - if it is included in a flashback.
if he was jailed inside Impel Down ,then the pieces has been set.
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I think we don't get a map till oda reveal where is fishman district and what there are in the upper bubble.
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The shortest 17 pages in my entire life.
I want…
MOAR MOAR MOAR MOAR MOAR !!!!!
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Probably in a minority of one on this, but this chapter has confirmed a strange desire that I've had that Luffy not have a major fight in this arc. I think it would be entertaining to see Luffy set up to fight the "big bads" of Fishman Island and have his crew take care of them. After all, we've just had 100 or so issues of Luffy traipsing around and demonstrating his strength and resolve, it might be nice to give the crew the spotlight and an opportunity to increase their bounties.
Not going to happen, I know, but hey.
Also, Sanji vs. Decken would be amazing.
I think they gave Zoro a handicap for a reason, in the end I do think Luffy will be facing Hodi. Decken not sure about still, will it be a team work between Luffy/Sanji like what happened on Skypiea? Or like I said one could go after the creep who stole the mermaids, while the other stays behind to fight Decken. Guess will find out next Chapter
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Noooo! My fears come true!! THERE'S A PROPHECY!! NOOOOO!!!
…Is it just me, or does Hodi's face always look the same. (Mostly.)
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OMG Zoro's eye is open ,
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Hell yeah. Shit has hit the fan like a ton of bricks.
@Sniper:
Noooo! My fears come true!! THERE'S A PROPHECY!! NOOOOO!!!
…Is it just me, or does Hodi's face always look the same. (Mostly.)
Hodi's probably talking about madame Shirleys prophecy.
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I think they gave Zoro a handicap for a reason, in the end I do think Luffy will be facing Hodi.
Actually, does Zoro even know who Hodi is? He was passed Jinbe's message from the princes, but Hodi hadn't properly introduced himself yet. In the end, it'd all depend on whether the message can be delivered. Fortunately, Luffy and Hodi aren't anywhere close… yet.
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Okay, finally the chapter arrives.
All in all, it was pretty good, but can't someone else fight Hodi!? I know, I know, Zoro is badass and all that crap. Out of all the battles i'd say that Zoro's has been the most boring for me. I don't really know why either. Maybe i'm not just a fan of swordsmanship. However, i'd really like to see more of Brook, since he brings another element into the swordsmanship, his music. I would have loved to see Usopp and Brook fight Hodi together instead of simply Zoro.
I'm also afraid that it'll be Sanji vs Decken, and then the rest of the strawhats against the minor commanders of the New Fishman Pirates which no one cares about + Caribou. Luffy will face the true threat behind Hodi.
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Am I more happy as a fan of Zoro or as a fan of One Piece right now?
I'll never know.
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Sooo. . .no one else predicts Zoro losing the fight??? He just looks to me to stay behind to stall time. Underwater vs Hodi who just proved to be insanely strong WITHOUT the steroids? Zoro having limited air and can't use 3 swords?
I see him losing, to tell the truth. Not terribly injured at all, maybe he starts losing and someone takes him out of there as he starts to suffer due to lack of air or something. . .
Anything can happen, of course, but you're all making it look like Hodi is a total pushover and will be curbstomped by Zoro WHILE UNDERWATER, and considering Hodi still has the steroid card to play. I wouldn't be that damn sure that Zoro will win.
Good chapter, but it was missing something. I don't know what it is, but I've enjoyed more other chapters of FI than this particular one. Not bad, but not the greatest.
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So he's going to be using mandrakes.
Not a bad idea! Honestly to me Usopps plantimals are the highlight of the chapter and a great way to upgrade him and make him lethal but not ruin what made us love him in the first place.
And yeah i know it's been a while since they were introduced, but i didn't really click with it til he started upgrading old moves with it. My hats of to you Oda.
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Just a note guys, Mangastream has a translation error:
On the last page, lower right panel with Chopper and Sanji, Sanji asks him what's going on behind him, not the princess. Chopper tells Sanji not to turn around, or he'll have a relapse.
Check the first page for Aohige's translations.
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Kinda nice to see the 'HODI WILL BE REDEEMED!' kids silenced (for the most part) this week.
Not as sold on it as I was but I'm still thinking Hodi could be Arlong's son, or at least nephew/something along those lines. The scene with Nami seeing Arlong behind Hodi during his speech made me think that maybe Nami was recognizing him from a previous conversation/experience. Maybe in all her time on Arlong's crew she heard that Arlong has a son/relative that he left at a young age? Idk, excellent chapter either way.
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Just a note guys, Mangastream has a translation error:
On the last page, lower right panel with Chopper and Sanji, Sanji asks him what's going on behind him, not the princess. Chopper tells Sanji not to turn around, or he'll have a relapse.
Sanji asks whether there is someone behind the princess because chopper is surprised.
Sanji doesn't know that the princess is huge
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Ohh Brilliant! I got chills with Arlong… And Zoro is scary... SO AWESOME!
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@Mr.:
Everybody except Zoro is doing jack shit so far, pardon my frustration.
Sorry i have to disagree , you're forgetting about Robin and Franky.
Franky searched for the Sunny as it is his duty as the shipwright to take care of the ship. By some mystery the sunny is unharmed but he met Den , which could be important for his character develepment. Robin went to search/get information about the porneglyph, which at some point will get really important in this arc , i'm sure of it.OK where besides against Hatchan and against Kuma and the PXs had Zoro are handicap?
Mr1? No, he just had to overcome the special ability of him like all other SHs had as well
Against Ohm? Yeah Ohm had mantra and Enel even a better one. Where was he more handicaped than Luffy?
THIS TIME it is a handicap. Bbut all this BS speaking fo him being always handicaped is getting on my nerves…. awesome as he is.
Zoro had disadvantages/handicaps very often lets see
Zoro vs Cabaji : Buggy's second mate. Zoro defeats him, despite Cabaji hitting his wound several times.After that Zoro falls back asleep , because of his wound.
Zoro vs Hatchan/Arlong : Zoro is still heavy wounded from the fight with mihawk and passed out several times , even arlong was thinking "how can he still be living with these injuries?! how can he even stand?! i have to kill him right here and right now i cant afford him to live"
Zoro vs Daz Bones : Daz can change his entire body into steel - something that Zoro can't cut , which was a big disadvantage for him not to mention that he nearly died in that battle.
zoro vs Ohm : the terrain is full of traps , his enemy posses haki and can keep him at range. and there were others interupting.
Zoro vs Aokiji : Zoro and all of the SH are helpless.
Zoro vs Kuma : Zoro is totally exhausted he realize that neither him or anbody else of the SH posses the strenght to fight another monster enemy like him to save the others and his captain he is willing to sacrifice himself and makes a deal with Kuma , where he had to take all the pain of luffy which nearly killed him.
Zoro vs Duval and his Gang : Zoro is still totally exhaust from all the demage his body took , Hatchan had his back because he nearly passed out. But nvm it was only a fodder fight.
Zoro vs Pacifista / Sentómaru / Kizaru : Zoro nearly passed out plenty of times till the point where Kizaru almost killed him if Rayleigh wouldnt have interrupted
and now Zoro vs Hodi : hes underwater with limited air , he can only use two swords , there are more enemys which will most likly interrupt.
if you ask me the list is quite long and it could be that i've forgotten an fight ;]
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Damn, Hodi is quite deadly, even without the Energy Steroids! He's inflicting wounds just by flinging water drops from his arms and hands! Definitely an upgrade from Arlong's throw a handful of water with enough force to cause bruising and internal damage. Also, he's definitely got no problem using his fellow fishmen as a shield, even Arlong wouldn't stoop that low (I think).
I just hope Zoro can at least put up a fight before the inevitable curbstomping ensues.
Also, there's the speculation of Nami and the possibility of certain old wounds being reopened in this arc. This is something that has been foreshadowed ever since they learned that Fishman Island was an inevitable stop on their journey and it looks like Oda is ready to "go there" as some would say. The question now is, "where did she run off to?"
BTW, I LOL'ed when Usopp kicked Brook for his poorly-timed joke and when Megalo barfed up the Shirahoshi.
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Damn, Hodi makes me feel the same way that Arlong did a loooooong time ago.
Thrilled.
By the way, there are many similiarities how oda introduces Arlong & Hodi. At first, they are just chilling in their place, sitting on a bench with their crew standing next to them. After that, they make some deals with other guys (Nezumi, Vander Decken) And after that they start to move and reveal their strenght only a bit at a time.
Maybe that's why i like hodi so much.
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Also both have style
Hodi actualy looks realy fabulous :ninja:
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Zoro owns Hodi without pills.
And then Hodi uses pills and fight Luffy.
I think the monster trio is going to fight Van der Beeken, Hodi and Caribou.
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@No:
Also both have style
Hodi actualy looks realy fabulous :ninja:
Flip-flops and a hawai shirt is stylish nowadays?
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A little useless tidbit but three more chapters and we'll have surpassed DB's chapter count by 100.
Flip-flops and a hawai shirt is style nowadays?
For a fishman that realy stuck out.
His crew were all wearing some nondescript shit no one cares about but everyone remembers what Arlong was wearing.
As everyone will surely remember Hodi's furr coat :ninja:
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Arlong brand-because you're worth it.
Flamboyant shirts for the big and tall fishmen
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I hope Nami didn't regress back to being a scared child and run away when hodi reminded her of Arlong. It would be understandable though.
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Also, how does he keep that thing around his neck under water ?
@Mr.:
I hope Nami didn't regress back to being a scared child and run away when hodi reminded her of Arlong. It would be understandable though.
I would hope for a halfway reaction only for her to show she pulled her weight during the time skip.
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@Mr.:
I hope Nami didn't regress back to being a scared child and run away when hodi reminded her of Arlong. It would be understandable though.
Heh, sounds like Samus, in Metroid: Other M.
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@No:
Also, how does he keep that thing around his neck under water ?
It's probably made from the now extinct underwater fox.
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Because beauty demands sacrifice :ninja:
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Zoro owns Hodi without pills.
And then Hodi uses pills and fight Luffy.
I think the monster trio is going to fight Van der Beeken, Hodi and Caribou.
i think it'll be pretty anticlimactic if a major villain is defeated twice in one arc.
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It's probably made from the now extinct underwater fox.
When I think of suu it makes me sad. Poor underwater fox….
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Would've been more eco-friendly if he had just wrapped a human around his neck.
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I knew it was a matter of time before megalo hawked shirahoshi up. Hodi is nothing but arlong 2.0 . just add more cruelty.sanji will have his senses back hopefully since he had an overload of hot mermaids.nami will hopefully come back to help zoro beat hodi
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Something confuses me about the last chapter. Franky read the newspaper 2 years ago which clearly established a connection between Jinbei and Luffy, yet he doesn't even think anything of jinbei when he sees him. I want a damn conversation. When will Jinbei realize that Luffy is on FI?
Also with base Hodi being stronger than Arlong, according to usopp, it's hard to swallow that Hodi is a right hand.
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Arlong and Hodi also have body structure very similiar to their respective sharks.
Sawshark, Arlong
http://www.kidzone.ws/imageschanged/sharks/sawshark.jpgWhite shark, Hodi
http://sharkfacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/great-white-shark.jpgSo i think it's not like hodi is "fat" or something.
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Maybe Zoro's scarred eye is special now… I don't really like Hodi though. He's just a sharkman on roids, no redeeming evil qualities. It's like One Piece meets Jersey Shore meets George W. Bush's daddy issues...
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Zoro planning to fight Hodi underwater is badass. I expected Luffy to get straight to the sea forest so it's cool he ran into Sanji and Chopper and lol at the "blowfish" spewing out the princess.
Brook's joke about eating Arlong was weird….. And Usopp is still Usopp even with a powerup but I wish he did something better than a stench. Still hardly any Robin and Franky but oh well. And if this arc is going to revert back to 17 pages every week then :(
But yeah pretty good chapter this arc is starting to shape up.
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@RPG:
I knew it was a matter of time before megalo hawked shirahoshi up. Hodi is nothing but arlong 2.0 . just add more cruelty.sanji will have his senses back hopefully since he had an overload of hot mermaids.nami will hopefully come back to help zoro beat hodi
You know what's funny? I was gonna make an "Arlong 2.0" comment when I was typing up my post but I changed my mind.
Anyhoo, he's definitely more evil than Arlong (the fishman shield pretty much sealed that fact).
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He's also a hypocrite. That guy didn't go against his plans in the slightest.
Yes, liberator of the poor opressed fishmen…....
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@No:
He's also a hypocrite. That guy didn't go against his plans in the slightest.
Yes, liberator of the poor opressed fishmen…....
What guy? Damn short-term memory loss.
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The one he used as a shield.
The fishman from his own crew.
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As much as I want to see Hodi get sliced up, this fight between him and zoro only seems like a brief spar before one gets away or there is an interruption. I get a feeling that Hyozo is the one Zoro is going to have a real match against. Anyways it would be anticlimactic. Obviously Luffy will be his opponent.
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When this incident gets animated I want to hear a really loud barfy splashy sound.
I wonder how much the foley artists for one piece make.
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@Mr.:
As much as I want to see Hodi get sliced up, this fight between him and zoro only seems like a brief spar before one gets away or there is an interruption. I get a feeling that Hyozo is the one Zoro is going to have a real match against.
Yeah I see that happening.
I also see Fukaboshi being the one to defeat Hodi. Obviously the Neptune bros must be strong as Hodi joined the royal army to learn their techniques, and Fukaboshi looks the strongest of all three brothers. Plus Luffy defeating Hodi would be similar to him defeating Arlong - both Hodi and Arlong have the same motive. For a merman to defeat a fishman (in an epic uncderwater fight) is a more fitting end to the rise of the racist fishmen.
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i wonder if chopper will blindfold sanji so that he can't see the princess. That would be funny
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Naw - see it's like that parent trap movie - there are 2 girls that look exactly the same - they meet as children - Kuina accidently knocked Tashiga down the stairs - ran away - took up Tashiga's life - supressed her childhood.
Yeah :ninja:
That's absolutely what happened.
And for gods sake I am kidding [/quote
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looks like Zoro's going to have a pretty rough match seeing he is underwater. Something tells me though that Nami has gone somewhere on dry land to use some sort of technique Zoro could benefit from and my guess is that it'll be the weatherball that was mentioned when she was on weatheria
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Sanji asks whether there is someone behind the princess because chopper is surprised.
Sanji doesn't know that the princess is huge
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/67205412/18I checked Aohige's translations and the Chinese scan from the spoiler thread. They agree. Mangastream does not. There.
On another note, does anyone else think that Nami is planning a counterattack for later? She slips off on her own to do some investigation…