He was still cut this chapter though.
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73516072/8These are separate fighters, not the seven peins. They wouldn't know he was in that position, nor care of his well-being, as seen with haku's decapitation.
Okay, I missed that. Though I meant lethally, at least that's something.
Actually, I liked the finish. Despite the amount of flashbacks and everything. Year of Kakashi? Compaired to the last one, this counts.
So, what was that green stuff we had? Oh right.
Green Lean Incest Machine.
And is it just me or Kishimoto's art is all over the place?
No, I'd say this applies not only to the recent chapters, but recent story arcs. Even in comparison to the art of Part II, which is undoubtedly simplified, bland and just dead, now the picture just looks lazy and when you look at it, you get the feeling how the artist forces himself, sadly.
I want to see the cream of the 1000 techniques, not clones, logs and other boring jutsus. Something flashy that involves a small continent being destroyed or something else along the lines of OVERKILL!
I can't be against this but, considering Kakashi's user history contains mostly the same jutsus, despite the large favorite list, so to speak, how probable is it?
No, I'd say this applies not only to the recent chapters, but recent story arcs. Even in comparison to the art of Part II, which is undoubtedly simplified, bland and just dead, now the picture just looks lazy and when you look at it, you get the feeling how the artist forces himself, sadly.
Yeah, you are right. This arc in particular has been a mess. :/
Somebody said Neji had a boner in one of the panels.
Must re-read.
Okay, I missed that. Though I meant lethally, at least that's something.
I'm still not sure just how much he was hurt by that strike. The gash is pretty big, but depth is still unknown. Hopefully this is just a small injury that won't have any bearing on the upcoming battles.@Silverblade:
I can't be against this but, considering Kakashi's user history contains mostly the same jutsus, despite the large favorite list, so to speak, how probable is it?
Oh but you see apparently he's pissed off, more than ever before which means he might stop reading this weeks make-outs tactics and become a true ninja of true killing intent.
RAGE!
I know this is an old debate but are we sure on Haku's gender?
I don't see an adams apple….
so did anyone think during those flashbacks that his drawings were much better back then?…i wonder if kishimoto himself thought that....
Wow, that sword sure regenerated fast with that little bit of blood. I'm looking forward to fights from both Gaara and Kakashi. Kakashi seems so pissed he might even be the one to take down Kabuchimaru.
He was still cut this chapter though.
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73516072/8These are separate fighters, not the seven peins. They wouldn't know he was in that position, nor care of his well-being, as seen with haku's decapitation.
lol an acronym for peins is PENIS…kishi and his sumbliminal messages
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lol an acronym for peins is PENIS…kishi and his sumbliminal messages
If only I could reach through my monitor….
lol an acronym for peins is PENIS…kishi and his sumbliminal messages
I think you mean anagram…
This chapter had better art then usual kishi managed to impress me more.
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Yellow Flash Parenting Skills.
It's not that Kishi did anything outrageously goofy this chapter, but a lot of it was just so unnecessary. Particularly the focus on Haku and Zabuza. It's just Kishi giving us a bunch of information that we already know and really didn't need to be said.
But hey, it looks like maybe Kishi will live up to his promise of the Year of Kakashi.
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It's funny the younger Naruto always got on my nerves with his goofy smile but seeing him this chapter I like the old one a lot more now than this wannabe Jesus figure Kishi made him out to be in the 2nd half. Also no Armadillo penis.
Wow what a great finish. Now where's the rest of the fight?
But hey, it looks like maybe Kishi will live up to his promise of the Year of Kakashi.
Didn't he also mention something about "the fat one"?
Lol, I like how Neji complains about the number of enemies and then Kiba complains there's too many of them only to have Neji to tell him to STFU and stop complaining. Unintentional humor right there.
But hey, it looks like maybe Kishi will live up to his promise of the Year of Kakashi.
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It's funny the younger Naruto always got on my nerves with his goofy smile but seeing him this chapter I like the old one a lot more now than this wannabe Jesus figure Kishi made him out to be in the 2nd half. Also no Armadillo penis.
Every time we get a flashback with part 1 Naruto I get sad. :(
What happened to that rascal?
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm still skeptical. But at least he has a setup for it. Now let's see if he can deliver.
….....He probably won't.
so did anyone think during those flashbacks that his drawings were much better back then?…i wonder if kishimoto himself thought that....
I thought the artwork was much better back in the day but I do like his current style too even if it's not that detailed.
Didn't he also mention something about "the fat one"?
Yeah Chouji is suppose to be getting some well deserved screentime.
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I think that the focus being particularly on Zabuza and Haku is what makes these chapters good. The arc containing them really was some of Kishimoto's best work.
That is all.
Kisame will be back to the plot,why not ?
and also Hidan (Im truly waiting his return to the plot)
@Fallen:
I think that the focus being particularly on Zabuza and Haku is what makes these chapters good. The arc containing them really was some of Kishimoto's best work.
That is all.
Ridiculously forced and unnecessary.
Not his best work by a long shot.
Yeah Chouji is suppose to be getting some well deserved screentime.
exchange the word screentime with death, and I'll be one happy camper.
Remember,we are in WAR not in a drama festivel.
Ever wonder if Oda had put the flashback of Ace, Luffy and Sabo in the middle of the war ?
Well this is what Kishimoto is doing right now in Naruto,and is sad.
when kakashi started doing that hand seal, I thought he was gonna do this thing.
Are these flashbacks really necessary? It only reminds me how much better his art was back then.
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Why is everyone speculating Choji is going to die?
He died like 300 chapters ago. It was a fantastic death scene, full of emotion, symbolism, character development, badassery and accepting his place in the world. Hell, in the anime he even got to sing the end credits!
Great death scene.
What, is Choji one of the zombies? Did I miss a page?
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm still skeptical. But at least he has a setup for it. Now let's see if he can deliver.
….....He probably won't.
Expect the wort, be pleasantly surprised!
Or not.
He hit puberty .
Damn :(
One chance Kishi..
He wrote up 1000 jutsus, and started giving them to random characters, not finding any moment to give them to kakashi.
It's time.
Kishimoto, give us 20 jutsus of kakashi. Just this time, don't defeat the 6 remaining swordmen offscreen, just let kakashi be all awesome and kick their undead assess.
We deserve a Raikage Gold chapter at least!
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Green lean incest machine. We really didnt need to here kakashi and Naruto going fanboy over Zabuza and Haku because as far as i remember they established in part 1 the respect team 7 had for them. So that part was unessecary. I wouldnt have minded so much but it took up quite a few pages. The zetsu's actually being a threat was unexpected and cool. Someone mentioned the Neji and Kiba banter which i agree upon. In reply to zabuza's sword regenerating so fast, there was plenty of time for him to cut up other people to get it regenerated almost all the way. Wasn't it basically intact by the time he started fighting kakshi anyway?
Now here's my real problem with the chapter, Maybe it's just me but i missed the point of the "something to protect" in this chapter. What the fuck are they even talking about? Zabuza and Haku wanted to protect each other, yeah we get that. Why does this piss off kakashi so much that he's "Gonna rampage"? He didnt rampage the half a dozen other times his team, his life and his village were in danger, so why now? Now THAT feels forced, other than that I enjoyed the chapter.
Remember,we are in WAR not in a drama festivel.
Ever wonder if Oda had put the flashback of Ace, Luffy and Sabo in the middle of the war ?
All the time. I think it would have made us feel more for Ace, and would have been better there than after, (and it wouldn't be the first time Oda did a massive flashback in the middle of a fight.) though it would obviously have given away the existence of Sabo.
Kishimoto, give us 20 jutsus of kakashi. Just this time, don't defeat the 6 remaining swordmen offscreen, just let kakashi be all awesome and kick their undead assess.
We deserve a Raikage Gold chapter at least!
Why is it so hard for us to give up hope, even after so, so, so many disappointments?
But yeah, Kakashi pulling out 20 or 30 new techniques in a row (or even some old ones that we've only seen him observe before) would go a long ways. But considering how he fared against Pain… not expecting much.
If this were truly Kakashi's time to shine, we'd be in for a Rock Lee/Gaara level fight. But... we're not.
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Why is it so hard for us to give up hope, even after so, so, so many disappointments?
Because this is naruto, the only thing that it brings me when it shows up in my twitter timeline is to tell that other guy at the office that it came out, and that Bakuman, Belzebub and Toriko are next sometime in the weekend.
I don't expect anything from it, I don't depend on it, I don't care. If it goes Rainbow Billion Armadillo penises, nothing new, but I can get some enjoyment in the event of a raikage gold. So the ammount of hope that I can produce for it is infinite.
The hope ecuation is weird..
@RobbyBevard:
All the time. I think it would have made us feel more for Ace, and would have been better there than after, (and it wouldn't be the first time Oda did a massive flashback in the middle of a fight.) though it would obviously have given away the existence of Sabo.
Why is it so hard for us to give up hope, even after so, so, so many disappointments?
But yeah, Kakashi pulling out 20 or 30 new techniques in a row (or even some old ones that we've only seen him observe before) would go a long ways. But considering how he fared against Pain… not expecting much.
If this were truly Kakashi's time to shine, we'd be in for a Rock Lee/Gaara level fight. But... we're not.
Yeah but now that you mention it, kakashi pulling out 20 or 30 techniques in a row against pein, still losing and then having that "fake death" would have been rock lee vs. gaara level and would have made pein much, MUCH more menacing. And now i fear that no matter what happens i'll be massively dissapointed.
Are these flashbacks really necessary? It only reminds me how much better his art was back then.
in all honesty hasnt all wsj mangas art in some way gotten worse?
Ridiculously forced and unnecessary.
Not his best work by a long shot.
Forced? Maybe. Unnecessary to bring them back? Eh, kind of. However, having them back is a nostalgic treat (regardless of how much a cop-out a resurrection is). Do not get me wrong; I am not about to ride the waves of nostalgia to make my opinion biased, but I know that I and perhaps others felt there was more to Zabuza and Haku and felt that some things were left unanswered (or atleast a few "what-if's" about which some may be curious). More info on the two probably was not enough reason to bring them back, but it was nice to get since they were coming back through Impure World Resurrection anyhow. Mostly, the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist really needed some clarity and background, considering how much their reputation has been prevalent throughout the story.
For the sake of clarity, in case you thought I was referring to these recent chapters, I was talking about the Bridge Arc all the way from the beginning. I have not read anything Kishimoto did except Naruto, but in terms of Naruto, that arc certainly was one of the better ones.
This was not that bad.
I like this chapter, as I did the one before it.
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Forced? Maybe.
Zabuza and Haku are brought back to life with a broken jutsu, despite the fact that Kabuto would have no way of knowing where they were buried, nor would he likely have any interest in them considering their strength. The entire zombie thing is forced as hell.
Unnecessary to bring them back? Eh, kind of. However, having them back is a nostalgic treat (regardless of how much a cop-out a resurrection is).
I enjoy nostalgia as much as the next guy, but it's all about execution. For instance, I actually did kinda like those two nods to the bridge arc with Suigetsu taking Zabuza's sword, as well as the return of Inari and the old guy. But literally resurrecting Zabuza and Haku for a completely unnecessary battle for the war arc is just an unnecessary raping of a far superior arc.
Do not get me wrong; I am not about to ride the waves of nostalgia to make my opinion biased, but I know that I and perhaps others felt there was more to Zabuza and Haku and felt that some things were left unanswered (or atleast a few "what-if's" about which some may be curious). More info on the two probably was not enough reason to bring them back, but it was nice to get since they were coming back through Impure World Resurrection anyhow.
Not really. Everything that needed to be said about Zabuza and Haku was said back in the bridge arc. I'd like to know what more you would've liked to know about them. And your argument kinda falls apart since the last few chapters haven't really told us anything new about them.
Mostly, the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist really needed some clarity and background, considering how much their reputation has been prevalent throughout the story.
I kinda would've liked to see an arc centered around them. Or, heck, maybe it could've been a gradual thing. But no, Kishi blew it (as usual).
Kakashi will use his newly white-chakra-love-infused acquired blade to beat'em all, no sharingan, no 30 jutsus.
Kakashi will use his newly white-chakra-love-infused acquired blade to beat'em all, no sharingan, no 30 jutsus.
Why would kakashi use Zabuza's sword? If he knew how to weild it or wanted to he would have kept it the first time instead of leaving it at Zabuza's grave.
Kind of meh chapter. Not really that bad.
You know, it wasn't an awful takedown, but since he'd gone through the trouble of bringing Haku and Zabuza back he could at least have given them some actual fights.
I mean, looking back at the last few chapters:
Thats it. They spent far more time inducing flashbacks of the wave country arc than they actually, you know, did stuff. Same can be said for Sasori and Sais Bro as well. 90% talk, 10% action.
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Why would kakashi use Zabuza's sword? If he knew how to weild it or wanted to he would have kept it the first time instead of leaving it at Zabuza's grave.
Friendship power, obviously.
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You know, it wasn't an awful takedown, but since he'd gone through the trouble of bringing Haku and Zabuza back he could at least have given them some actual fights.
I mean, looking back at the last few chapters:
- Haku protects them from an explosion.
- Haku Back Attacks Sai.
- They fight fodder.
- Reenactment of the Haku Chop moment
- Defeated.
Thats it. They spent far more time inducing flashbacks of the wave country arc than they actually, you know, did stuff. Same can be said for Sasori and Sais Bro as well. 90% talk, 10% action.
As a counter arguement one could say there was an entire arc dedicated to them and we saw them fight plenty. There are tons of other characters in the war we HAVENT seen fight and giving Haku and Zabuza another fight would be a porr use of time. So really it's a matter of opinion on that one.
I liked this chapter. It wasn't fantastic, but I did enjoy it quite a bit.
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As a counter arguement one could say there was an entire arc dedicated to them and we saw them fight plenty. There are tons of other characters in the war we HAVENT seen fight and giving Haku and Zabuza another fight would be a porr use of time.
That is true. Which is why Kishi shouldn't have brought them back, along with a gazillion other characters who already had closure in arcs of their own.
That the zombies get to do nada just makes the fact they came back in the first place even more pointless
if rock lee doesn't get some kick ass moments in this war I'm flying to japan to punch kishi in the face….... and kubo too
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This chapter was great, i liked how they showed the blood dripping has a symbol of their tears. Oda also showed plenty of Garp,Ace, and Luffy flashbacks in the middle of the war.Kakashi moves so far Chidori, Raikiri, his Ninja Dog Squad, that Earth Wall tech, Kage Bunshin, Lightning Bunshin and Rasengan.
