I don't think Surume is strawhatmember-potential, not even pet-potential.
What's your reasoning.
I don't think Surume is strawhatmember-potential, not even pet-potential.
What's your reasoning.
I'm still not sure that Luffy's name would be enough given that this is something FI couldn't deal with by themselves. Should be interesting to see.
Brennen sure hopes that it will be enough after the arc, because that would give Jinbe the opportunity to go with the crew.(or hunt down his own dreams with the Sunny-pirates)
When the SHs leave the island without Jinbe being 100% certain that the greatest danger for his so beloved island is gone, i cant see a way how he should leave that place. But as we know every island the SHs left were turned to a better place, which could handle itself on it
s own.
Well, yeah the SH's are not going to be dragging a kraken around with them all over the grandline.
The monster staying at FI sounds possible since FI is deep underwater and he could help ward off invaders. Did'nt think of that until it was mentioned!
I see what you mean. If Oda does go down the parallel between Newgate's name & Luffy's name, having a member of his crew stay behind would indeed be a great symbol that it was under Luffy's protection. Good stuff.
I'm still not sure that Luffy's name would be enough given that this is something FI couldn't deal with by themselves. Should be interesting to see.
Although WB had a vast crew - if he personally could not defend a part of his territory then others would be sent in his steed.
Luffy is charging for Raftel then the only one to defend his territory is himself unless he wants to start collecting and using allies to that effect. Besides I wonder how bad it will be at FI I guess it will not be a Loguetown style arc more an Alabasta/Sky Island Arc.
Caribou for Nakama everyone!
Caribou will be forgotten in that barrel for the rest of the whole story.
Die you all people! Caribou for next naka–Oh wait that's not funny anymore.
But LOL, it looks like almost everyone had a meeting where they agreed to troll around Surume.
However, I haven't had the chance to read the manga yet :( so as long as I get to read it maybe I'll jump into the Surume-4-nakama bandwagon.
And suddenly my sig is not longer a simple joke.
Caribou will be forgotten in that barrel for the rest of the whole story.
Hahahahahah! He totally will! or at least until they reach FI.
Nami: Aren't we forgetting something?
Crew: I can't think of anything.
Caribou: Your forgetting me you bastards!!!
People are still wanting a lecherous and ugly-ass version of Usopp to join? Caribou singing a different tune every 2 seconds is hilarious.
Back to the kraken, which I am not totally head over heels in love with. He's definitely the next nakama.
I just logged on so I don't know if there is actual serious consideration for him being a potential crewmate, but if this is just another running gag, let's keep it to a minimum, ok? Just a reminder that " <ironic character="">for crewmate" or " <baseless argument="">for crewmate" just for the sake of saying it, isn't allowed. For the few who want to seriously discuss characters in this thread, don't ruin it by flooding the thread with random joke posts. That said, I think we are all in love with Surume. <3
@Don:
Brennen sure hopes that it will be enough after the arc, because that would give Jinbe the opportunity to go with the crew.
I never said I hope for anything, I don't think. I've thought for a veeeery long time that Luffy might directly or indirectly make a statement that would be taken the same way Whitebeard's was. An example of what I mean is Luffy at Marineford the second time; the world thought it meant one thing when it meant something totally different. I've also never really thought it was necessary for Luffy to be strong enough to back up this potential claim, as it wouldn't stop him either way and come the end of the series he would be strong enough to back up the claim. So as long as it holds up for a little while, which after the timeskip it very likely could, his name will eventually be big enough and powerful enough to protect it. My main reasoning for this, however, has less to do with Jinbei and more to do with Oda drawing parallels between Luffy, Roger, and Whitebeard. My theory about Jinbei simply benefits from this.
That said, I've been half-jokingly commenting since chapter 604 that the Kraken will be left behind once they enter the New World and will be friendly with Fishman Island, serving as a pseudo-protector that Luffy leaves behind. Sort of like Laboon, Surume travelling with the crew is just unrealistic. I mean it could work, but he'd just be sitting around most of the time while they run around on various islands. Seems like a waste, to me.</baseless></ironic>
What's your reasoning.
Well, what makes Surume special? Luffy already got a whole island full of pets he tamed and befriended.
If I want a pet member, I'd like someone with a distinct character who can't be tamed, like Shushu for example or Laboon.
Pets come and go constantly with arcs. Surume will be awesome right up until they return to the surface to find new animals to play with.
For the few who want to seriously discuss characters in this thread, don't ruin it by flooding the thread with random joke posts.
I think you are going to have to wait till they reach FI, actually until a little while after they reach FI, before you will be getting serious discussion in this thread. The most likely characters to join right now are Jimbe and Surume. Surume isn't going to join because it just wouldn't be practical and Jimbe has been discussed into the ground, all there is to do now is joke around until some real candidates show up.
That being said, I would be over the moon if Surume was here to stay :wub:.
Well, what makes Surume special? Luffy already got a whole island full of pets he tamed and befriended.
What makes Surume special!?! How can you ask that!?! He's Adorable!!!
I never said I hope for anything, I don't think. I've thought for a veeeery long time that Luffy might directly or indirectly make a statement that would be taken the same way Whitebeard's was. An example of what I mean is Luffy at Marineford the second time; the world thought it meant one thing when it meant something totally different. I've also never really thought it was necessary for Luffy to be strong enough to back up this potential claim, as it wouldn't stop him either way and come the end of the series he would be strong enough to back up the claim. So as long as it holds up for a little while, which after the timeskip it very likely could, his name will eventually be big enough and powerful enough to protect it. My main reasoning for this, however, has less to do with Jinbei and more to do with Oda drawing parallels between Luffy, Roger, and Whitebeard. My theory about Jinbei simply benefits from this.
Yeah , i meaned that you sure would like that idea, because it would put your Jinbe for new nakama theorie in an even better light.
But actually i think when Luffy knows from first hand how much troubles FI has and how much Jinbe suffers from this we wont get a comedic "everybody missunderstood what he rly meaned and now everyone thinks he protects FI like once WB". Luffy will here maybe for the first time directly say that he wants this place under his protection. This will give a huge impact in the NW and directly shows everyone(especially the Emperors) what he is up too. Luffy so far doesn
t fully know how the fishman were treated(sure a bit from Hatchan) but after knowing what happened to them i think he will totally stand behind this place and protect it with his words like once WB.
That said, I've been half-jokingly commenting since chapter 604 that the Kraken will be left behind once they enter the New World and will be friendly with Fishman Island, serving as a pseudo-protector that Luffy leaves behind. Sort of like Laboon, Surume travelling with the crew is just unrealistic. I mean it could work, but he'd just be sitting around most of the time while they run around on various islands. Seems like a waste, to me.
Totally agree with you, and brought this also up a few pages ago.
Well, yeah the SH's are not going to be dragging a kraken around with them all over the grandline.
He's just way too big to be dragging around such a comparatively tiny ship for the rest of the series. I can't see him just relaxing at the shore of every island they visit from now until the rest of the series
Sort of like Laboon, Surume travelling with the crew is just unrealistic. I mean it could work, but he'd just be sitting around most of the time while they run around on various islands. Seems like a waste, to me.
I don’t know about this… Are the Straw Hats really going to encounter a giant coral shelf with laser defenses that can’t be Goan Cannon’d and they’ll have to leave Surume behind?
He’s a deep sea monster. It’s been shown that he can get his ass kicked and come back strong. He’s not like baby Laboon; I don’t see things getting more dangerous for him than for the rest of the crew.
I think he can follow them wherever they go. ...In the sea; ‘probably wouldn’t come on land much.
And about that being a waste... a full time ship sentry is a good idea. That’s one position they’ve been rotating throughout the journey; it always comes up.
The Straw Hats will also need to beat up a very large dude one day.
Luffy already got a whole island full of pets he tamed and befriended.
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Well, can they be advanced navigation?
Just curious.
I don't think a pet will be the one taking out that very large dude and an octopus pounding on a someone with tentacles and squirting ink everywhere wouldn't make an interesting fight either.
I think you are going to have to wait till they reach FI, actually until a little while after they reach FI, before you will be getting serious discussion in this thread. […] all there is to do now is joke around until some real candidates show up.
No, that's my point. Serious discussion comes and goes, but regardless of activity the whole joking aspect isn't allowed anymore. You haven't been around much– in here, at least-- and you cannot see deleted posts, so just take my word for it that the past few threads, during active and inactive times, has been filled with pointless spam-joke-posts like "Akainu for nakama!" or "Perona for Nakama hurrr" or "double rainbow for nakama!!" etc. It's not allowed, as we have said dozens of times, and will earn a deleted post and thread ban. If it weren't so viral and rampant, we wouldn't care, but people obviously lack self-control.
No, that's my point. Serious discussion comes and goes, but regardless of activity the whole joking aspect isn't allowed anymore.
Aza, gotcha.
@Don:
I think when Luffy knows from first hand how much troubles FI has and how much Jinbe suffers from this we won't get a comedic "everybody misunderstood what he really meant and now everyone thinks he protects FI like once WB".
I don't mean anything comedic. I mean… Luffy doesn't intend to declare the island his territory specifically, but he says something... for example, "If you ever try to hurt them (my friends) again I'll kick your ass!" gets telephone'd* to the point people believe he made the same declaration Whitebeard did. Anyway, it's just a theoretical possibility I was considering, and I don't expect it to happen that way, per se. Just pointing out that it doesn't need to be a direct promise from Luffy to protect the island, as to me that would seem a bit out of character. "Don't hurt my friends or I'll kick your ass" seems much more likely than something like "this island is mine!"
I don’t know about this… […] I think he can follow them wherever they go. …In the sea; ‘probably wouldn’t come on land much. And about that being a waste... a full time ship sentry is a good idea.
This seems to be the only portion of your post that references what I said, so in response I'll just reiterate that I consider that to be a waste. Oda has the opportunity to use a character for a purpose, though off-screen and out of mind, allowing him to return later for a big battle or two… or as you suggest, follow them under the water (also off screen, more or less), and then camp their ship while they spend hundreds and hundreds of chapters developing their personalities elsewhere (read: on land). Surume is simply too big to really utilize well were he to follow them or even tow them in the New World, and would make some adventurous situations a little too easy. On the other hand, allowing him to make friends with the locals at Fishman Island and remain there to protect them or something, would allow character development for a non-speaking character while giving him extended purpose until he is needed for some far off battle at the end of the series. Or Oda could just leave him behind like Eyelash, or Norla, or Shushu, or any other pet-like character we've seen in the past.
Aza, gotcha.
lol, to clarify, I'm not trying to be a hardass by saying no jokes are allowed period. I'm just saying continuous gag posts that serve no purpose will be deleted. For example, if the entirety of a post is "XXX for nakama!", or pages of posts are jokingly discussing a character nobody honestly believes will join (like Akainu, for example), then they will be deleted. Continued posts by the same people with no attempt to seriously discuss anything will earn a threadban. Like a certain member who posted nothing but " <random character="">for nakama" posts almost every day, as if it was clever or even funny.</random>
@Sea:
Well, can they be advanced navigation?
Just curious.
teh so called advanced navigation is only used by those pirates who don't have a good enough navigator. e.g. teh cariboos.
We only heard that the big time pirates have a sea monster pet from Cariboo. We haven't seen one with WB, Shanks, Roger, or really anyone else. Who's to say the advanced navigation thing is really some sort of status symbol, but all the pirates who get anywhere near the One Piece don't need it (either as a symbol or for help navigating).
Surume would be gone from an arc whenever Sunny docks.
Surume dragging Sunny takes away from Frankys dream and the ships abilities, and propably isn't even needed beyond returning from FI.
Him protecting the ship is not needed whenever at least Luffy, Zoro or Sanji is around.
He'd be cumbersome in color spreads.
Surume is cool, but he wont be permanent.
Has it been debated yet ? y know "Van Der Dekken" for Next Nakama ?
Well I think we need to see his face first.
Tell me the requirements that Monkey D Luffy has set for member to join his crew or shut the fuck up. I'll come back when people get a brain.
Fine, he says in the first Buggy arc that in his view pirates need to be prepared to risk their own lives. This is something that's held true for every new crewmate without fail. Caribou fails.
This is one of many examples.
What chapter does Luffy set those requirements in ?
Have you paid any attention to Luffy at all? This is the guy who threatened to kill Zoro because he thought Zoro randomly attacked innocent people on Whiskey Peaks, despite going through everything in East Blue with him. Luffy does not like bad people, in case you've been reading some other manga this entire time.
Killing Marines for pleasure and getting on board another pirate ship with the sole intention of murdering them all to increase your own infamy is something some people may consider bad, but don't worry, I'm sure Luffy will overlook all that when he sees that Caribou can turn into mud. Priorities.
Tell me the requirements that Monkey D Luffy has set for member to join his crew or shut the fuck up. I'll come back when people get a brain.
It's not something Luffy has said, it is something that has been deduced, something that makes sense. For example:
1)Even while One Piece has it's darker moments, in the heart One Piece is a happy story. No Strawhat member shall have malice in his heart.
2)All strawhat members have to somehow contribute to the crew. Luffy, captain. Chopper, doctor. Robin, able to read the runes and solve mystery of "blank century"/revive the superweapons. Franky the handyman. Zoro the vice-captain. Sanji the cook. I'm not entirely sure what Usopp brings in tho. A long-range fighter?
3)All Strawhats shall have an interesting background story. All strawhats have dreams and stories, all strawhats see that dream in Luffy.
I could go on, but sufficient to say none of these have been said or explained by Luffy. However rule #1 is the rule to rule them all.
! Surume for Nakama! :wub:
Fine, he says in the first Buggy arc that in his view pirates need to be prepared to risk their own lives. This is something that's held true for every new crewmate without fail. Caribou fails.
Does that mean Bon-chan fails?
Sometimes you just gotta be smart. Luffy didn't want to fight Mihawk… ...Why am I talking about this? Nevermind.
Does that mean Bon-chan fails?
Mr. 2 has risked his life at least 3 times for Luffy. So no, Mr. 2 is tremendously successful in this regard.