how am i stupid? cuz i think arlong can beat nami? wow, you're REALLY stupid then. :getlost:
Who would win in a fight. Kalifa or Arlong?
how am i stupid? cuz i think arlong can beat nami? wow, you're REALLY stupid then. :getlost:
Who would win in a fight. Kalifa or Arlong?
Kalifa would probably win. She was stronger than a lot of the males on CP9.
I liked Crocodile because he was a pure evil. He was playing both sides and getting ready to kill many people. Crocodile was searching for a Weapon of Mass destruction also.
Arlong seemed like a horrible person because of what he did to Nami, but that isn't anything compared to Crocodile.
@Kokutou:
Who would win in a fight. Kalifa or Arlong?
Depends on the proximity to water.
Arlong did say Nami was pretty cute.
@Kokutou:
In Kalifa's bathtub:ninja:
In that case…
Arlong did say Nami was pretty cute.
If fishfolk and giants can have children, and merfolk and humans can, I think it's pretty clear fishmen and humans can have children together. It'd be interesting to see a marriage of those two appear in the manga with all that prejudice and stuff going around.
Though that's a whole nother ballgame and discussion.
In that case…
If fishfolk and giants can have children, and merfolk and humans can, I think it's pretty clear fishmen and humans can have children together. It'd be interesting to see a marriage of those two appear in the manga with all that prejudice and stuff going around.
Though that's a whole nother ballgame and discussion.
if we can have a half fishman half human, possibly we'll see a person who has the abilities of mermen, but can also take in a DF
There's nothing in OP that ever addresses what happens when fishfolk or merfolk eat a devil fruit. For all we know they can be affected by it the same way humans are, just that for them not being able to swim is a devastating consequence.
There's nothing in OP that ever addresses what happens when fishfolk or merfolk eat a devil fruit. For all we know they can be affected by it the same way humans are, just that for them not being able to swim is a devastating consequence.
I heard that they die. im not exactly sure tho, but im pretty sure they die.
I heard that they die. im not exactly sure tho, but im pretty sure they die.
16 characters of source plz.
16 characters of i said already im not sure.
In that case it's just another rumor that has just as much weight on it as my speculation.
In that case it's just another rumor that has just as much weight on it as my speculation.
Sure, I wasn't denying that. I guess we will find out sooner or later, but idk what stupid fishman would even want to eat a devil fruit.
Sure, I wasn't denying that. I guess we will find out sooner or later, but idk what stupid fishman would even want to eat a devil fruit.
Yeah, exactly.
How many times has this forum had this fishmen-eating-DF conversation?
Yeah, exactly.
How many times has this forum had this fishmen-eating-DF conversation?
Idk, if thats something that you are interested in, go find out yourself. I mean you did bring the topic up after all.
Idk, if thats something that you are interested in, go find out yourself, I mean you did bring the topic up after all.
I'm not really that interested in a fishman eating a devil fruit. Everybody else seems to be for some reason. And I didn't bring it up, Pacer did. I was more interested in seeing a fishfolk/human hybrid at some point in the manga.
I'm not really that interested in a fishman eating a devil fruit. Everybody else seems to be for some reason. And I didn't bring it up, Pacer did. I was more interested in seeing a fishfolk/human hybrid at some point in the manga.
Well, there are no canon giants that have eaten a df either, so we dont know what could happen to them o.o probably nothing.
Seems plausible enough, isn't there a giant/fishman? hybrid? or is it human/giant..I'm sure that oda will suprise us somehow.
Well, there are no canon giants that have eaten a df either, so we dont know what could happen to them o.o probably nothing.
Seems plausible enough, isn't there a giant/fishman? hybrid? or is it human/giant..I'm sure that oda will suprise us somehow.
Yeah, there was a giant/fishman hybrid in the Foxy pirate crew.
I'm pretty sure that if the filler? movie? giant was able to eat a DF then giants can eat DFs. Oda would have said something if it were impossible.
Yeah, there was a giant/fishman hybrid in the Foxy pirate crew.
I'm pretty sure that if the filler? movie? giant was able to eat a DF then giants can eat DFs. Oda would have said something if it were impossible.
Ah yeah, thats what I am thinking of.
I agree, and I dont think that giants/fishmen couldnt eat devil fruits especially since even inanimate objects can
We don't know how long Ace had his fruit when he made the hat nor his level of control over it.
Sure we do. Ace made the hat after he became a Whitebeard Pirate, as Oars Jr. was a Whitebeard ally. We've seen the flashback panels where Ace fought Whitebeard's crew. You really think he had so little control of his powers he accidentally lit things on fire still? Not that it matters, as the crew stated flat out that he burned the hat as a consequence of weaving straw when his body is made of fire. [[URL="http://www.onepiecehq.com/read-manga/one-piece-555/page-8.html"]Link]
In the war even pistols caused holes to appear in Akainu, or at least caused splashes in him, but that cannon just sorta sank into Caribou.
As far as I can tell there are no holes in Akainu, and even the "splashes" are questionable when you consider frozen wood shards are hitting magma. [[URL="http://www.onepiecehq.com/read-manga/one-piece-566/page-3.html"]Link] Check the following page too, where it shows their backs. Kizaru has a clear hole, while Aokiji is broken and can therefore barely be seen.
I think he's talking about this.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-574/page004.html
where half of his body is gone.
As far as I can tell there are no holes in Akainu
If you're really sure about this…
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c574/5.html
That cannonball exploded. The one that hit Caribou didn't.
Are we discussing if Logia's can shut down their power?
Of course they can.
Otherwise how would they eat?
How would they hold things?
Heck I'm pretty sure they can choose not to be in elemental state… otherwise they would have a sad life.
i got a littile pirates of the carribean feeling after reading this chapter
luffy will become the "Davy Jones" of one piece
!
Proof Logias can get hit when caught off guard, or can let themselves get hit.
Not to mention it's the only way it makes sense.
It also makes sense with the Smoker/Ace/Luffy scene
Though the best Logia users like kizaru have it on instinctively, like when those random guys shot him when he arrived on SA.
Gotta love these forums… arguing about stuff we have no idea about, truly remarkable.
Seriously, it could be one way or the other, until there's definitive proof for it, keep it to yourselves.
I personally think that logia users don't have their abilities on all the time. However, I don't have any proof of that.
Gotta love these forums… arguing about stuff we have no idea about, truly remarkable.
I personally think that logia users don't have their abilities on all the time.
That is the purpose of a forum. To discuss and exchange views.
Wasn't that discussed in either the SBS or the Databooks?
Gotta love these forums… arguing about stuff we have no idea about, truly remarkable.
Seriously, it could be one way or the other, until there's definitive proof for it, keep it to yourselves.
I personally think that logia users don't have their abilities on all the time. However, I don't have any proof of that.
what sthe point of arguing about stuff we aleady know? :getlost:
Crocodile getting his head cut off by Doflamingo is an example of reflexive Logia activation (there's no way he could've known about that ahead of time). Here's another:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-509/page019.html
Here, Kizaru gets his arm sliced off. There's no way he could've been ready for that kind of thing. The explosion afterward, yeah, but he definitely wasn't ready for having his hand sliced off, meaning his logia ability was either passive, or acts involuntarily as a defense mechanism.
@Fire Fist:
Crocodile getting his head cut off by Doflamingo is an example of reflexive Logia activation (there's no way he could've known about that ahead of time). Here's another:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-509/page019.html
Here, Kizaru gets his arm sliced off. There's no way he could've been ready for that kind of thing. The explosion afterward, yeah, but he definitely wasn't ready for having his hand sliced off, meaning his logia ability was either passive, or acts involuntarily as a defense mechanism.
So from all these different examples would you agree that it depends of the severity of the situation and the danger imposing on the user, similar to how mantra ( CoO ) is stronger when the attack is life threatening? If it's not a life threatening attack the DF doesn't activate but if the attack would irreparably damage the user it activates.. make sense a bit? =/ :ninja:
I agree nothing will come of these arguments. We're just going back and forth back and forth.
@Fire Fist:
Crocodile getting his head cut off by Doflamingo is an example of reflexive Logia activation (there's no way he could've known about that ahead of time). Here's another:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-509/page019.html
Here, Kizaru gets his arm sliced off. There's no way he could've been ready for that kind of thing. The explosion afterward, yeah, but he definitely wasn't ready for having his hand sliced off, meaning his logia ability was either passive, or acts involuntarily as a defense mechanism.
I don't think that's the point of the argument.
If Logia users turn their intangible mode on and off, that can be explained simply by Kizaru concioosly turning ON his Logia mode while in battle at all times, and only turning off on parts that make contact (such as his foot)
I agree nothing will come of these arguments. We're just going back and forth back and forth.
LOL at your sig
GOMU GOMU NO, GIGANTE SPLIFFUH
Alright so it's not luffy holding it, that's just what came to mind when I saw it
LOL at your sig
GOMU GOMU NO, GIGANTE SPLIFFUHAlright so it's not luffy holding it, that's just what came to mind when I saw it
More like giant SwiSha…but yea I get it.
I don't think that's the point of the argument.
If Logia users turn their intangible mode on and off, that can be explained simply by Kizaru concioosly turning ON his Logia mode while in battle at all times, and only turning off on parts that make contact (such as his foot)
i dont think t;hey have to turn off parts that make contact. for example, kizaru can basically fly or float. logias can control their powers freely, so i'm sure whe they change into the element, they can control themselves freely also. otherwise i would find it silly that all u'd have to do is to atk their feet
I think it`s more like a reflex that the ability turns on.
Enel also activated his ability without controlling it, when he electroshocked himself back to life, after Wiper used the reject-dial on him.
This is why I love Oda's storytelling. When the characters mention that there are legends about terrible monsters on the way. I had a feeling we will meet something like this and it was the huge Kraken.
I think that it is always on but they have states. When they need to touch stuff to eat or punch someone they can be solid. When they want to they can turn into their logia attribute.
But when they are hit they can either turn into their attribute and let it go through them, or if they do not see it and it hits them their body automatically turns into the attribute on that part and breaks into it because the punch/bullet/sword was strong enough to do that. So if a logia is distracted and is shot in the face, or get beheaded in the case of croc, it still happens but their body is logia so it automatically turns into it. That's just the way I understand it. So they can be either in solid state or in logia state but they wont be killed if shot in the face. In the case of ace I guess magma burns fire, and in the case of aokiji being hit by luffy I figure since he is ice his foot doesnt go through him so easily coz aokiji is more solid so he can be sent flying.
Don't know if this has been discussed, but does Luffy know that WB is dead? (from page 4, second to last panel where he says "No, that's old man Whitebeard!"
Don't know if this has been discussed, but does Luffy know that WB is dead? (from page 4, second to last panel where he says "No, that's old man Whitebeard!"
Who knows..but luffy knowing whether or not WB is dead probably isn't an important plot point.
Don't know if this has been discussed, but does Luffy know that WB is dead? (from page 4, second to last panel where he says "No, that's old man Whitebeard!"
I think he says that cuz the whale reminded him of the Moby Dick
C-net's translation.
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/26005
Only thing I think is worth noting is that Coribou says he's going to save his brother instead of saying that his brother will save them.
On the topic of the Logias… i think that they are involuntarily in their element and they can go into a physical form as they wish. Basically they don't control when they are their element they control when to turn physical.
@Don:
Not wrong, because we have to wait how it will turn out.
My guess was just that BB is sure able to use Haki because he has at least as much ambition as Shanks for example, who also is able to use Haki.
So Haki nullifys the ability to turn into the specific element of a logia-user whereever you`re touched by the Haki-user.
Thats given.
That's kind of the thing though, we've seen this happen already with the Armament Aspect and the logia still remained what their Devil Fruit entailed. One instance of it would be with Joz hitting Kuzan, the latter didn't stop being an iceman even though damage did happen.
Logia-type Power Users are pretty much like Luffy or Buggy in that they've been permanently changed into whatever Devil Fruit was eaten by them.
So maybe with activating his Haki he could stop being a gravity-man, because he is not fully a logia-type user, the yami-yami fruit was said many times to be something special under the fruits.
So by nullifying the ability he would get over the weakness that every hit he gets, totally brings him pain\higher amount of damage.
Not fully a logia? Uh…yeah he is.
Only thing about the Yami Fruit that separates it from the other logias is that Teach can't simply let things go by, that's it. Things like Dark Vortex which lets him cancel out Power Users' abilities is just Teach finding different uses of it as a gravityman. Akin to Luffy and Crocodile being creative which we talked about before.
@Mr:
It also makes sense with the Smoker/Ace/Luffy scene
That was a gag.
Like how Nami can hurt Luffy with punches.
@Mr.:
Who knows..but luffy knowing whether or not WB is dead probably isn't an important plot point.
It's not incredibly important. But if it was in the future, it would most likely would play out as Rayleigh telling Whitebeard sometime before leaving him by himself on AL. Either way, meh. shrugs
@ultimateclima:
C-net's translation.
http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/26005Only thing I think is worth noting is that Coribou says he's going to save his brother instead of saying that his brother will save them.
I'm guessing the MangaHelpers translation is mistaken. I don't have access to the original, but another translation I read in a different language matches the MangaStream one ("bro will save us").
LUFFY KNOWS THAT WB IS DEAD, HE PLACED FLOWERS FOR HIM AND ACE WHEN THEY INVADED MARINFORD FOR THE MESSAGE.
Just in case anyone still is wondering