I'm hoping that the Caribou brothers are on the same level as the SN 2 years ago, and this is just a case of them biting off more than they can chew, and caribou being one of those overconfident devil fruit users that BB, and Croc always talk about.
Chapter 603: "Keep it in Your Heart" Discussion
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probably not steel haha. i just know that his ipod headphones is gonna be really special. also explains why hes so much buffer now. as a sniper u dont usually have to be buff. that should play a part in his shooting. think about garp throwing cnanonnballs
usopp shooting with steel slingshots or w/e its called:ninja:
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But you have to admit that a Logia with something like Cement would be rather unprecedented, for one it's not naturally occuring. (if you don't reference the non-canon candy)
Kizaru considered the possibility that Hawkins could be logia user, so I guess there are possibilities that there are lesser logia DF out there, those which aren't elemental.
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Uh…he never said that. Borsalino didn't have any idea of what Hawkins' Devil Fruit could be or really thought about it, the guy's absentminded enough as it is.
Only thing he did was rule out logia since lightman managed to cause damage with a beam once the voodoo dolls used to transfer hits ran out.
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u might want to tell that to Spandam who got fire-sniped by sogeki when he dragging robbin to the port
And Spandam doesn't matter. Usopp as he was wouldn't do anything in the NW because unless its an attack from so far away you can't imagine someone trying it then you know where the attack is coming from and what its line of attack will be.
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And Spandam doesn't matter. Usopp as he was wouldn't do anything in the NW because unless its an attack from so far away you can't imagine someone trying it then you know where the attack is coming from and what its line of attack will be.
a snipr's skill is knowing the weak points. can see what other people cant. USopp was theo nly one who could have done that to spandom. thats how impotant that was
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so since kizaru is a light logia will he be able to control all the light surrounding him? that would make him a god right?
No, he can only control the light he creates and only to a certain extent. I doubt it is in his powers to make himself invisible for instance.
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And Spandam doesn't matter. Usopp as he was wouldn't do anything in the NW because unless its an attack from so far away you can't imagine someone trying it then you know where the attack is coming from and what its line of attack will be.
Look, the good thing of the SH is that everybody has a diferent quality in wich they are strong. Its true that ussop isnt the strongest one of the crew (he really has been a bullshit in the whole OP), but im shure Oda will him protagonist at some point (as he does with all the crewmates…) what really disapoints me of Oda is that he continues with the idea of having ussop with the slingshot. I wanted franky to make him a good Snipping gun, like those of call of duty modern warfare 2 xD (after all, Franky now is the second person in the whole world with more modern weapons knowledge)
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so since kizaru is a light logia will he be able to control all the light surrounding him? that would make him a god right?
You mean he isn't already?
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Problem is… We already know that Luffy can use all 3 haki's and punch them. For Zoro and Sanji we still have no clue... And the rest has show nothing so far.
I'm still interested what fruit the other brother has eaten
I really dont get why you all still think that luffy isnt the only one using haki…. its oobvious that luffy can handle it properly, he has been 1 year and a half using it! what have been sanji zoro franky etc... doing??? TRAINING,BUT NOT HAKI! ITS OBVIOUS! firstly ou need someone that controles it to show you how to use it, and secondly, it takes way too much time to learn it! im not saying they are not going to be capable of using it someday (im shure luffy will teach them, at least to zoro now that he has 1 eye and he can see less xD).
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And Spandam doesn't matter. Usopp as he was wouldn't do anything in the NW because unless its an attack from so far away you can't imagine someone trying it then you know where the attack is coming from and what its line of attack will be.
You do know that white beard was basically killed by shots right? Oh and Kizaru was stopped by a rifle? Usopp was shot in the arm and kept going but it would be stupid to say that he wasn't bady damaged. When Zoro was shot he kept fighting but if they did no damage I'm sure he wouldn't have been running half of the fight. Anybody that gets shot from mid-range is going to have damage from it. You could argue that being slammed through objects don't hurt that much but ask Arlong how it feels to go through like 5 floors.
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I really dont get why you all still think that luffy isnt the only one using haki…. its oobvious that luffy can handle it properly, he has been 1 year and a half using it! what have been sanji zoro franky etc... doing??? TRAINING,BUT NOT HAKI! ITS OBVIOUS! firstly ou need someone that controles it to show you how to use it, and secondly, it takes way too much time to learn it! im not saying they are not going to be capable of using it someday (im shure luffy will teach them, at least to zoro now that he has 1 eye and he can see less xD).
not one time have people trained together in OP for the SH crew=.= zoro has to have it. mihawk wud be a shitty teacher if he didn't teach him something like this. as for whoever said that coribros are over-confident DF users, thats bullshit too. cariboo said "sowhat if i am", he doenst' care for his fruit, or rather he doesn't see it as something that makes him who he is
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not one time have people trained together in OP for the SH crew=.= zoro has to have it. mihawk wud be a shitty teacher if he didn't teach him something like this. as for whoever said that coribros are over-confident DF users, thats bullshit too. cariboo said "sowhat if i am", he doenst' care for his fruit, or rather he doesn't see it as something that makes him who he is
I agree with the brothers comment but Zoro doesn't have haki. He definitely wont have it if Sanji doesn't. Theirs no reason for Mihawk to teach him that. Zoro said teach me the sword so that I can surpass you. From what we could see that's exactly what he did. Sanji doesn't have haki because Iva barely let him have the secrets to the cuisine of his nation. You think that he/she would teach him haki. Neither Iva nor Mihawk are a generous as rayleigh was to Luffy. I wouldn't be surprised if Zoro did most of his training alone.
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I think it is important to note that there are not that many Logia. The largest organization in the world, the World Government, apparently has access to about four. The Strawhats have seen an unreasonable number of Logia, but that doesn't mean that things like Haki Armor are a requirement for the rest of the crew.
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not one time have people trained together in OP for the SH crew=.= zoro has to have it. mihawk wud be a shitty teacher if he didn't teach him something like this. as for whoever said that coribros are over-confident DF users, thats bullshit too. cariboo said "sowhat if i am", he doenst' care for his fruit, or rather he doesn't see it as something that makes him who he is
by saying that Zoro and Sanji have Haki you are supposing that Ivankov and mihawk also have (because they where their mentors). Oda has never mentioned they posses such strong power ( for now i think the only ones are Rayleight, whitebeard, shanks, the Mantra users at Skypiea, and the boss of the PX ( the sumo girl), apart of marco).Still they have been practicing other powers that ivankov and Mihawk do know!
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by saying that Zoro and Sanji have Haki you are supposing that Ivankov and mihawk also have (because they where their mentors). Oda has never mentioned they posses such strong power ( for now i think the only ones are Rayleight, whitebeard, shanks, the Mantra users at Skypiea, and the boss of the PX ( the sumo girl), apart of marco).Still they have been practicing other powers that ivankov and Mihawk do know!
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I think it is important to note that there are not that many Logia. The largest organization in the world, the World Government, apparently has access to about four. The Strawhats have seen an unreasonable number of Logia, but that doesn't mean that things like Haki Armor are a requirement for the rest of the crew.
We don't know how many Logia they're are. You can't say that their aren't alot cause all we know is that there are less than zoans or paramecia. Infact we can't say that. All we know is that Logia fruit are the most rare. We could see more Logia than there are zoans in the new world. There are a hundred of things Logia's can be.
I'm sure at least the monster trio and Usopp will have haki. Or they would be at a serious disadvantage.
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We don't know how many Logia they're are. You can't say that their aren't alot cause all we know is that there are less than zoans or paramecia. Infact we can't say that. All we know is that Logia fruit are the most rare. We could see more Logia than there are zoans in the new world. There are a hundred of things Logia's can be.
I'm sure at least the monster trio and Usopp will have haki. Or they would be at a serious disadvantage.
well actually ancient zoan DF is more rare than logia. i think what his point is that haki is not ocmpletely necessary because there is just so little logias types among pirates, running into one is not something u'll do often. but wit that said, the monster trio will have haki.
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by saying that Zoro and Sanji have Haki you are supposing that Ivankov and mihawk also have (because they where their mentors). Oda has never mentioned they posses such strong power ( for now i think the only ones are Rayleight, whitebeard, shanks, the Mantra users at Skypiea, and the boss of the PX ( the sumo girl), apart of marco).Still they have been practicing other powers that ivankov and Mihawk do know!
All Vice Admirals and above have haki. How could Mihawk not have it ?
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by saying that Zoro and Sanji have Haki you are supposing that Ivankov and mihawk also have (because they where their mentors). Oda has never mentioned they posses such strong power ( for now i think the only ones are Rayleight, whitebeard, shanks, the Mantra users at Skypiea, and the boss of the PX ( the sumo girl), apart of marco).Still they have been practicing other powers that ivankov and Mihawk do know!
i would think alot more than that would have haki.. its clearly not that rare! i mean pretty much everybody on the isle of women has some control over haki. expect it to become commonplace amongst at least captains in the NW.
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We don't know how many Logia they're are. You can't say that their aren't alot cause all we know is that there are less than zoans or paramecia.
Seriously? :wassat:
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leave it to 2009's to find something that stupid, pointless and funny LOL
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All 3 of the monster trio will have haki. Oda will probably have each of them specializing in a different type of the 3 hakis. Luffy's speciality will be the king's haki obviously.
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Just wanted to point this out regrading Iva and Mihawk having haki.
1. Iva new what the COC was when luffy used it during the war
2. The person incharge of the Kamabakka Kingdom while Iva was away used COO against Sanji
3. Mihawk has been a pirate in the New World for many yrs. If the lowest members of the Whitebeard crew know about haki how could he not -
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Seriously? :wassat:
shut up:ninja:.
I don't see why people think the monster trio will have different types of haki. Taking haki to it's highest pinnacle of existence is what will make them the strongest. Having a unique haki arrangement doesn't sound all that great. Unless they do it similar to Enel and become the greatest in a certain field. Which I still think would be lame.
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I think Haki is common in the New World. The worlds strongest people are over there.
Haki is a weird thing. I believe everyon has them they just don't know they exist and those who do know how to use them have limited use only. The really strong haki users are those who had mastered them, key word is MASTERED. On top of that there is a special haki that only select few have and that is King's Haki. That's how I understand this.For the other crew to be haki users i think tsome would. Their captain extensively trained how to use it, and although Luffy is the worst person to explain it I think just hearing about it would fuel the crew to learn it to get stronger. Personally I think Zoro would really be interested in learning coz he is really training every dayto be strong
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I think Haki is common in the New World. The worlds strongest people are over there.
Haki is a weird thing. I believe everyon has them they just don't know they exist and those who do know how to use them have limited use only. -16 characters of agreement.
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Their captain extensively trained how to use it, and although Luffy is the worst person to explain it I think just hearing about it would fuel the crew to learn it to get stronger. Personally I think Zoro would really be interested in learning coz he is really training every dayto be strong
I think Zoro and Sanji already know about Haki
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I think Haki is common in the New World. The worlds strongest people are over there.
Haki is a weird thing. I believe everyon has them they just don't know they exist and those who do know how to use them have limited use only. The really strong haki users are those who had mastered them, key word is MASTERED. On top of that there is a special haki that only select few have and that is King's Haki. That's how I understand this.For the other crew to be haki users i think tsome would. Their captain extensively trained how to use it, and although Luffy is the worst person to explain it I think just hearing about it would fuel the crew to learn it to get stronger. Personally I think Zoro would really be interested in learning coz he is really training every dayto be strong
Ussop would really be excited, but cant figure how to use it would be funny. It's nice though if he will learn how to use it to. I think he would benefit the most ala Enel mantra coz I still think he couldn't take that much damage…or maybe he does we could only speculate the crew's real strength until Oda put it in the chapters
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They'd almost have to. I can't imagine Luffy actually teaching anyone anything, and it'd take far too long if they tried to learn it themselves.
So while we don't have definitive proof that Zoro and Sanji know haki, I can't imagine that they don't.
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so would carbiou beat pre ts luffy in a fight
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so would carbiou beat pre ts luffy in a fight
We haven't seen what Caribo can do so you can't judge it.
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so would carbiou beat pre ts luffy in a fight
This would be for the "questions that don't deserve their own thread" thread. We know next to nothing about Caribou. If he's a logia, then no. But we don't precisely know yet, so we just don't know.
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so would carbiou beat pre ts luffy in a fight
I'm sure luffy would have still been superior in terms of physical stats and seeing as how he's resourceful in spotting weakness he probably would have overcome Caribous intangibility. since caribou might be a mud logia then I would go with heat to dry him up and make him more solid.
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Luffy would Loose probaly even if luffy is stronger in physical attacks and speed then caribo as long that dude is a logia luffy cant beat him w/o haki same goes for smoker but what makes smoker stronger is that smoker also has haki.and if caribo have haki then it might be an interesting match between luffy and caribo if not bb caribo 1 hit jet pistol haki equipped in ur face.
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If Luffy is getting his ass beat, before the timeskip, I am sure he would manage to activate his Haki, and end Caribou within a few punches.
Ever sense SA arc, he has managed to do that a few times. Not many, but a few.
Of course this is just a guess… I am sure Luffy would lose without the ability of Haki. And if Caribous devil fruit really is something awesome like glue, people have been speculating about, then Luffy would have one hell of a hard time with punching and kicking him.
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Of course this is just a guess… I am sure Luffy would lose without the ability of Haki. And if Caribous devil fruit really is something awesome like glue, people have been speculating about, then Luffy would have one hell of a hard time with punching and kicking him.
But glue bounces off rubber, haven't you heard the old saying?
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I don't think that's exactly how it goes… lol
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To the person who said only a few people have haki and therefore zoro and sanji do not, read Rayleigh's explanation.
! http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-597/page011.html
Since Iv(w?)ankov and Mihawk are high ranking members among their respective organizations I would highly doubt they do not know about the two colours. It is also highly unlikely that they are unable to control the two colours even to a small degree.
It is only the Colour of the Conquerer that only a few people have, even then Rayleigh goes on to say that most people who make a name for themselves have this as well.
Also to the people saying that Ivankov won't be helpful towards sanji, Sanji did get a ship from the kamabakka kingdom with okama travellers quite favourable of him, seems unlikely, considering all that, that Iva wouldn't teach sanji something that could be helpful for luffy, especially after all he did during the war to help Luffy…
just saying.
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This would be for the "questions that don't deserve their own thread" thread. We know next to nothing about Caribou. If he's a logia, then no. But we don't precisely know yet, so we just don't know.
because luffy has never beaten a logia before :getlost:
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because luffy has never beaten a logia before :getlost:
Post time-skip logia users are different from pre time-skip logia users. Everyone know that :ninja:
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But glue bounces off rubber, haven't you heard the old saying?
. . .
Words.
Words bounce off rubber.
Then, they stick to glue.
In the old saying, the two people are not fighting, they are calling each other names. Physical contact between the rubber and glue is implied to not happen.
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Taking a look at that cover page again just for the heck of it… What is that chipmunk at the bottom doing? Supervising? Teaching? ...What does that make Sanji? An assistant?
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Taking a look at that cover page again just for the heck of it… What is that chipmunk at the bottom doing? Supervising? Teaching? ...What does that make Sanji? An assistant?
A student! One must be humble if one is learning a secret recipe!
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Taking a look at that cover page again just for the heck of it… What is that chipmunk at the bottom doing? Supervising? Teaching? ...What does that make Sanji? An assistant?
It is carrying a plateful of ingredients.
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Coribou is likely pretty weak compared to the Monster Trio. He is probably Robin/Chopper level.
-He has a 200 million bounty, and was called "murderer of marines".
-Supernova Eustass Kid had a 300 million bounty, explained by his killing of civilians.-In the real world, there is pretty much nothing worse for the law enforcment than someone killing their own: as such, killing Marines should be higher a crime than killing civilians for the Bounties.
-As such, a marine-killer at 300 million would be weaker than a civilian-killer at 300 million, and a marine-killer at 200 million would likely be weaker than a normal pirate at 150 million.
-Which means that he should be around pre-timeskip Zoro or Sanji, and considering he's a Logia, he doesn't stand much of a chance against Luffy.
HOWEVER, considering the dark tone the manga takes, the fact that there are no Logias in the Straw Hats but 2 Paramecias and a Zoan, the degree of importance awarded to the brothers, their high bounties, and the fact that there has been no new members for a few years now, they might actually join the crew. Unlikely, but could happen.
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HOWEVER, considering the dark tone the manga takes, the fact that there are no Logias in the Straw Hats but 2 Paramecias and a Zoan, the degree of importance awarded to the brothers, their high bounties, and the fact that there has been no new members for a few years now, they might actually join the crew. Unlikely, but could happen.
Less than unlikely. In my mind there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that Luffy would let people like that onto his crew. That'd almost be enough to make me stop reading.
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HOWEVER, considering the dark tone the manga takes, the fact that there are no Logias in the Straw Hats but 2 Paramecias and a Zoan, the degree of importance awarded to the brothers, their high bounties, and the fact that there has been no new members for a few years now, they might actually join the crew. Unlikely, but could happen.
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OVqIIIYEpngSeriously, what does any of that have to do with a crewmate joining?
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