Light Leg Kizaru vs Black Leg Sanji :ninja:
Chapter 590: Little Bro
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That's another argument. My point was that with what we've seen so far it is not unlikely that Zoro and Sanji grow that strong.
I'm thinking about it and I always come to the same result that Kuma didn't destroy the crew but rather rescued them from such a fate.
True that… But now after losing his mind... I dunno if will be Luffy or Zoro. Maybe he will get his mind back before that.
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moria is dead, get over it
wat
If Moria was actually going to die, which would be stupid because there's still a lot of stuff to cover with his character, then his death would be shown onscreen.
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That's another argument. My point was that with what we've seen so far it is not unlikely that Zoro and Sanji grow that strong.
More than "not unlikely", I´d say. The strongest swordsman in the world and the man that the marines fear the most would have to be that strong.
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Moria's prolly dead. Oda don't mess around with his real villains.
I wouldn't be surprised if he popped up someday but that'd be a blow to Dofla. I've filed him under RIP.
His story can and will easily be told still.
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What about Ao Kiji? He have sword too called Ice Saber. Hmm let's see… who else have sword in SH....... ah!, it's Ao Kiji vs Brooke then?
Sanji can fight Aokiji with Diable Jambe or Franky can defeat him with Fresh Fire…
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I will only accept Moria's death if he comes back as Doflamingo's personal puppet
oh the irony
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wow that all really makes complete sense. I really think your absolutely correct on this. great thinking my friend!
Thank you.
Yeah but I don't think we will have an arc where all 3 admirals at once will be facing the SHs. Dunno why.
And I always wanted Sanji to take on Don Flamingo.
About Kuma… I think about once again. Zoro could face him but maybe Luffy will face him as well. Think about it. He destroeyed his whole crew.
But maybe Kuma even will come back to his senses
I sorta think DoFlamingo is a good one for Luffy to face, ultimately, because Do Fla's power has to do with making people do stuff against their will–-seems like a person with strong will is what's needed to counter that, and its Luffy we've been schooled repeatedly into thinking of as the person who has that sort of will. (Not saying Zoro and Sanji don't/won't have it, just that, as the story's been written so far, it appears is being set up as a Luffy battle.)
I also think Zoro against Kuma would make a nice circle--and it would be good if he regained his personality, too.
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I have this impression that DoFlamingo's going to mindscrew Hancock at some point of the story.
I'm not saying Hancock will "fight" him, but just like DoFla was sent to kill Moria, he will be sent to off Hancock. His powers, personality and links to the slave trade would make such an attack specially painful to Hancock. Her being controlled by him would probably make her relive her worst memories.
Then Luffy appears and kicks his ass in a magnificent way.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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I have this impression that DoFlamingo's going to mindscrew Hancock at some point of the story.
I'm not saying Hancock will "fight" him, but just like DoFla was sent to kill Moria, he will be sent to off Hancock. His powers, personality and links to the slave trade would make such an attack specially painful to Hancock. Her being controlled by him would probably make her relive her worst memories.
Then Luffy appears and kicks his ass in a magnificent way.
But first Boa has to join… which isn't sure^^
I could see him going after Jimbei as well cuz he betrayed the marines. And FI is an important for the slave thing as well :-p
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But first Boa has to join… which isn't sure^^
No, she doesn't need to join.
I know we don't see eye to eye in THAT discussion, but that possibility is to be talked in the apropriate thread. While the "DoFlamingo mindscrews Hancock" is often linked to my bias towards her joining, the two ideas can be separated without loss to any of them.
Edit: And DoFlamingo going after Jinbei wouldn't have a powerful scene like him going after Hancock would. I mean, Jinbei's not the one who made a promise to never let anyone control him again.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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I just realised that this is the second time that Doflamingo is cleaning house with previous antagonists. First was Bellamy, second is Moria. Who's next? :ninja:
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I have the feeling that dofla might really be the next shichi to fall… I don't know why but the guy has such a hax df that it will be a good training for luffy and his SH crews will strength. But you all know what happen to fan fics right?
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I consider Croc of greater importance to the story than Dofla.
Dofla is an underdawg after all. -
I have this impression that DoFlamingo's going to mindscrew Hancock at some point of the story.
I'm not saying Hancock will "fight" him, but just like DoFla was sent to kill Moria, he will be sent to off Hancock. His powers, personality and links to the slave trade would make such an attack specially painful to Hancock. Her being controlled by him would probably make her relive her worst memories.
Then Luffy appears and kicks his ass in a magnificent way.
I could literally hear you masturbating while I read this
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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ROFLMAO .
Cant be helped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
I consider Croc of greater importance to the story than Dofla.
Dofla is an underdawg after all.Right, a character who's been hyped since more than 350 chapters by having the highest known bounty since then, having this New Era thing going on and strikes as one of the winners of this war will be an underdog and of lesser importance than Cro…oh wait, it's Gaara...nevermind then. :getlost:
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uh uh uh uh c'mon deic- i mean luffy uh uh uh come on, save hancock uh unghhh ungh oh god oh god save her save her from donflamingo ungh ungh "oh mr luffy help!" ungh ugnh UNGHHHHH
huff huff huff
Time to post.
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Right, a character who's been hyped since more than 350 chapters by having the highest known bounty since then, having this New Era thing going on and strikes as one of the winners of this war will be an underdog and of lesser importance than Cro…oh wait, it's Gaara...nevermind then. :getlost:
Croc's hyping begun the moment he faced ultimate opponets in the marineford and the moment there have been hints about his past relationship with WB.:getlost:
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Croc's hyping begun the moment he faced ultimate opponets in the marineford and the moment there have been hints about his past relationship with WB.:getlost:
That doesn't make sense regarding what ivotas replied to you. So yeah you're lost.
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That doesnt make sense because you dont want to sdee it that way but actually it makes perfect sense.
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@JERK:
I could literally hear you masturbating while I read this
Spare me of your fantasies.
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How many standard man hours have you put into locating, dowloading, and self operating it to Hancock doujins.
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If Deicide answers that he never checked Hancock doujins its a f*ckin lie.
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That doesnt make sense because you dont want to sdee it that way but actually it makes perfect sense.
Nothing you say in context with Crocodile makes any sense.
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Ok . You better hide when he becomes the WB pirates captain…
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Ok . You better hide when he becomes the WB pirates captain…
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Its gonna be the best Apforums day in Apforums history.
2 days till spoilers:ninja: -
Its gonna be the best Apforums day in Apforums history.
2 days till spoilers:ninja:~56-60 hours till spoilers. :ninja:
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No, she doesn't need to join.
I know we don't see eye to eye in THAT discussion, but that possibility is to be talked in the apropriate thread. While the "DoFlamingo mindscrews Hancock" is often linked to my bias towards her joining, the two ideas can be separated without loss to any of them.
Well if she doesn't need to join, she at least needs to assist them in some way that the World Government becomes aware of it. As of right now, the World Government has no reason to off Boa. Sengoku confirmed and regarded her strength as necessary for the battle to come, and we saw it with our own eyes.
If anything, the WG is probably keeping a close eye on her. She did destroy many Pacifista without giving a reason, but to kill her for this action alone seems like they'd be gambling a whole lot for a simple assumption that she'd backstab them or already has. Moria died because of one simple reason. He was too weak to hold the title. He lost to a rookie who needed his whole crew to defeat just one Pacifista.
_How much can you do? Just grab a ball and juggle.
All those balls in the air, How hard can it be?
So hard you're getting dizzy!
Keep those balls in the air, Keep those balls in the ai-air!
Balls in the air!_
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Well if she doesn't need to join, she at least needs to assist them in some way that the World Government becomes aware of it. As of right now, the World Government has no reason to off Boa. Sengoku confirmed and regarded her strength as necessary for the battle to come, and we saw it with our own eyes.
If anything, the WG is probably keeping a close eye on her. She did destroy many Pacifista without giving a reason, but to kill her for this action alone seems like they'd be gambling a whole lot for a simple assumption that she'd backstab them or already has. Moria died because of one simple reason. He was too weak to hold the title. He lost to a rookie who needed his whole crew to defeat just one Pacifista.
yeah because Moria wasn't already weakened during the war and didn't getting shotted from behind.
I hate people that underestimate Jesus Moria, Fuck you.
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Moria got gangraped to death by a bunch of robots and a pink faggot.
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Moria got gangraped to death by a bunch of robots and a pink faggot.
Moria died the way he lived.
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Well if she doesn't need to join, she at least needs to assist them in some way that the World Government becomes aware of it. As of right now, the World Government has no reason to off Boa.
And yet there's a trail of evidence against her. Two high-ranking officers, Smoker and Sentoumaru, witnessed her actions. The ship and crew that she took to pursue Luffy just disappeared. And that's assuming no one questions why Luffy appeared in Impel Down the same day she visited it or how Luffy got the key to Ace's handcuffs.
Oda is not an author to waste details, so I expect the scenes with Smoker and Sentoumaru to have consequences for her, even if the missing battleship or the Impel Down infiltration don't.
Sengoku confirmed and regarded her strength as necessary for the battle to come, and we saw it with our own eyes.
The government also wanted Moria to continue as a Shichibukai due to the war while planning to off him later. Face it: the marines were calling all available forces to the battle, so Hancock was seen as an incredible asset, but that was before she was seeing helping Luffy during the war.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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The government probably decided to give Moria one more chance to perform during the war, and he didn't impress enough so they gave Donflamingo orders at the end to just get rid of him.
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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Don't know why they would give Moria a second chance. The only thing he's good at is losing.
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@JERK:
The government probably decided to give Moria one more chance to perform during the war, and he didn't impress enough so they gave Donflamingo orders at the end to just get rid of him.
Stephen's script, from chapter 483:
Phone: Can you tell, is he still breathing, however faintly?
Kuma: I don't know…
Phone: If he's still alive, we can wait for his recovery. I want him to remain a Seven Armed Sea for now.
Pirates: …THAT'S a Seven Armed Sea?!!
Phone: We can discuss measures to be taken afterward.
For now, we cannot have the Seas falling so quickly. It ruins the authority and dignity of the name.
This information must not reach the rest of the world.
I am tired of dealing with these people.While not conclusive, the text does have a big implication that they were needing Moria only "for now" and that they would off him later. The war would just give them the perfect excuse to kill Moria, just like DoFlamingo said.
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having dofla know as the dog who does all the dirty work for the WG seems a bit odd..
but he said himself that there are higher ups, thought.
but i guess he does this all just to have some fun and to get nearer and nearer to his real goal^^Unrevealed: Loki/Rocks/the man marked by flames/Im-san
Island: Elbaf/Raftel/GodValley
Unresolved: Weevil´s plan/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop
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When Moria shows up with his pacifista chin you'll all be sorry.
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@Don:
having dofla know as the dog who does all the dirty work for the WG seems a bit odd..
but he said himself that there are higher ups, thought.
but i guess he does this all just to have some fun and to get nearer and nearer to his real goal^^I have the feeling that DoFlamingo is little like the Joker. He wants chaos and death and to have a damn good time while doing it. He cooperates with the government because it's fun and he enjoys cooperating with all the corruption and decadence of it, but he'd betray it in an instant should it profit him.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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If Moria does come back he'll just be used to job to someone. Facing Moria is a guaranteed win.
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thats why i like him, cause the joker is one of teh best villains ever created(when not the best).
being evil just because you want to have some fun and believing the world needs some chaos is just a brilliantly pure motiv for a villain:happy: -
Yeah, I don't think they were giving him a second chance at all. They were going to kill him, but they figured he might be able to do a little bit of good by helping the Marines in the war before they offed him. The moment he lost to Luffy was the moment that his fate was sealed.
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And yet there's a trail of evidence against her. Two high-ranking officers, Smoker and Sentoumaru, witnessed her actions. The ship and crew that she took to pursue Luffy just disappeared. And that's assuming no one questions why Luffy appeared in Impel Down the same day she visited it or how Luffy got the key to Ace's handcuffs.
I don't deny that this is a possibility. I just don't see, nor am I sold on the fact that the World Government is going to decide to kill her as one of their top priorities. Maybe they plan to kill her in the far future, but now? It's just my belief that at this moment, they are more pressing matters, like Blackbeard and the remaining Yonkou. Boa can still technically be more helpful to the World Government at this moment. I don't deny that the World Government probably wants more than ever to rid themselves of the SB, but the sea is even more unstable than it was before Whitebeard died. All I'm saying is, Boa can still be of use to the World Government, for now. The World Government knows they can extort her by threatening the lives of her people. Why not keep her alive for the time being if they want her to do something?
But if the opposite happens, I wouldn't be surprised.
I hate people that underestimate Jesus Moria, Fuck you.
Well… I wasn't underestimating him. I was repeating what Doflamingo stated. My comparison wasn't to prove that Moria is weak, but to place my feet in the World Government's shoes as to why they thought of him as useless. Not to mention the fact that they (probably) have knowledge that the SH's survived and the possibility of the news being spread of Moria's defeat would be devastating to their organization.
_How much can you do? Just grab a ball and juggle.
All those balls in the air, How hard can it be?
So hard you're getting dizzy!
Keep those balls in the air, Keep those balls in the ai-air!
Balls in the air!_
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Okay Jesus Moria , I mean lol :D
On the third day he shall rise again and relieve us of our nachos :P
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I noticed something about this chapter. I don't know if this has any relevance to anything, but I think it's kind of neat, anyway.
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I noticed something about this chapter. I don't know if this has any relevance to anything, but I think it's kind of neat, anyway.
So that's what Jinbei meant back then with "now's not the time". He, as Arlongs former captain is taking responsibility for his former crewmates actions and offers Luffy a payback for this traumatic incident even if it cost him his own life. Oda you sick genious, you did it again.
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If Jimbei would have bitten Luffy then yeah it would make me lol in retrospect .
Not much here honestly :P
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Nice find, Urouge.
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Moria killed oars jr with one shot. He helped the gov more than hancock.
